The 3pt squad

[DAF86]

Mills, Forbes, Belinelli, Bertans, Poeltl.

That's a nice lineup to build leads against opposing benches, tbh.

[Chinook]

It's a nice quartet of players to compliment Bryn for sure. Surrounding him with shooters and a strong rebounder is gonna get points.

[acoelho1]

Our version of the death lineup :)

[YGWHI]

Pop hates 3's style but everything is so easy in a game when they're falling. Love this lineup

[skin27]

Remember people here saying that lineup sucks at defense..lol

[DAF86]

Remember people here saying that lineup sucks at defense..lol

It does, but against the other teams' scrubs they can build leads on firepower alone. Also, Poeltl is our best defender, so the defense wouldn't be totally shitty. Switch everything 1 through 4 and have Jakob patrolling the paint.

[vavvi]

It does, but against the other teams' scrubs they can build leads on firepower alone. Also, Poeltl is our best defender, so the defense wouldn't be totally shitty. Switch everything 1 through 4 and have Jakob patrolling the paint.

Also when another team's player sees Forbes or Bertans or Mills or Belli in front of him he kind of forgets about everything and tries to push his opponent one on one but here comes help-defense from Mills or Bertans.
Actually liked some of defensive positions of this line-up.

[playbonner15]

That lineup does suck at defense :lol but Poeltl and Bertans are there so its nots so bad if the other team’s just launching threes and midrange, Purtans gonna defend the paint

[Spurs Homer]

Defense is not the point -

opponent scores at will - 2 pts at a time -

Spurs bomb 3 after 3 after 3

[skin27]

Defense is not the point -

opponent scores at will - 2 pts at a time -

Spurs bomb 3 after 3 after 3


i know, but couple of weeks ago people here complaining about mills and Forbes playing together because they suck at defense!!

oh look just how quickly can things turn around.

poeple can easily forget..

[Bonner]

Just like Sixers 3pt death lineup last year with Beli/Ilyasova/Reddick/Saric/Simmons. It is a great adjustment from Pop and is really effective against opposing teams' bench scrubs. Thanks Brett Brown, you indirectly saved the Spurs from disaster season.

[ismael-robert]

Exactly Mr. Skin that's why I waste little time and place little value in "takes" here. I browse for humor and always has the latest news, rumors, updates...occasionally I read some stuff that gives me some different perspectives but in the end no one knows the mind of the front office and as usual if you trust them it usually winds up working out. Barring all the injuries we could be number one seed if the likes of the clippers and nuggets have been able to do it...the injuries are reason why we are where we are. To think guys in a forum know more than professionals who bring in six figures a year and have been doing this for 30-40 years...waste of time and breath.
Pop said second unit misses Pau's passing. He will take Poetl's place and actually is yet another 3 point shooter so they will have a 5 out lineup. Poetl can then go back to starting lineup where he started season now that he's found his groove and LMA doesn't have to play center and Derozan can actually move to shooting guard...White/Forbes, Derozan, Poetl, Gay, Aldridge...Spurs go on to dominate rest of season.
Hey Apa there's your top 10 post...(imitating worlds most interesting man) I don't post often but when I do it's worth it.

[DAF86]

Exactly Mr. Skin that's why I waste little time and place little value in "takes" here. I browse for humor and always has the latest news, rumors, updates...occasionally I read some stuff that gives me some different perspectives but in the end no one knows the mind of the front office and as usual if you trust them it usually winds up working out. Barring all the injuries we could be number one seed if the likes of the clippers and nuggets have been able to do it...the injuries are reason why we are where we are. To think guys in a forum know more than professionals who bring in six figures a year and have been doing this for 30-40 years...waste of time and breath.
Pop said second unit misses Pau's passing. He will take Poetl's place and actually is yet another 3 point shooter so they will have a 5 out lineup. Poetl can then go back to starting lineup where he started season now that he's found his groove and LMA doesn't have to play center and Derozan can actually move to shooting guard...White/Forbes, Derozan, Poetl, Gay, Aldridge...Spurs go on to dominate rest of season.
Hey Apa there's your top 10 post...(imitating worlds most interesting man) I don't post often but when I do it's worth it.

So once we found something that's working you want to change it? :lol

[ismael-robert]

Pop does n it'll work...poetl is only non shooter not allowing them to spread floor even wider than already is

[Play Boban]

:pop: It’s not basketball anymore. :pop:

[DAF86]

Pop does n it'll work...poetl is only non shooter not allowing them to spread floor even wider than already is

So, what's your relationship with Pop? Friend, family, co-worker, acquantience?

[jehawk81]

So, what's your relationship with Pop? Friend, family, co-worker, acquantience?

Jardinero, tbh

[NASpurs]

Just wait until it's Gasol taking up Poeltl's minutes.

[Bonner]

Exactly Mr. Skin that's why I waste little time and place little value in "takes" here. I browse for humor and always has the latest news, rumors, updates...occasionally I read some stuff that gives me some different perspectives but in the end no one knows the mind of the front office and as usual if you trust them it usually winds up working out. Barring all the injuries we could be number one seed if the likes of the clippers and nuggets have been able to do it...the injuries are reason why we are where we are. To think guys in a forum know more than professionals who bring in six figures a year and have been doing this for 30-40 years...waste of time and breath.
Pop said second unit misses Pau's passing. He will take Poetl's place and actually is yet another 3 point shooter so they will have a 5 out lineup. Poetl can then go back to starting lineup where he started season now that he's found his groove and LMA doesn't have to play center and Derozan can actually move to shooting guard...White/Forbes, Derozan, Poetl, Gay, Aldridge...Spurs go on to dominate rest of season.
Hey Apa there's your top 10 post...(imitating worlds most interesting man) I don't post often but when I do it's worth it.

Pau doesn't set good picks and doesn't roll to the basket tho, he would literally ruin this lineup :lol

[ismael-robert]

It's Pop's public comments if you followed team. He's not only better shooter but 10x better passer/facilitator

[Play Boban]

Jardinero, tbh
:lol

[Shakril]

Pop does n it'll work...poetl is only non shooter not allowing them to spread floor even wider than already is

Sorry, but your comment make no sense. For ths lineup poeltl has to set good screens, roll to the basket and occupy the paint. On the contrary, if he develops an inside presence that sucks the defense in, it would open up the Floor for shooters.

He does not need to shoot for this lineup to work.

[RC_Drunkford]

Exactly Mr. Skin that's why I waste little time and place little value in "takes" here. I browse for humor and always has the latest news, rumors, updates...occasionally I read some stuff that gives me some different perspectives but in the end no one knows the mind of the front office and as usual if you trust them it usually winds up working out. Barring all the injuries we could be number one seed if the likes of the clippers and nuggets have been able to do it...the injuries are reason why we are where we are. To think guys in a forum know more than professionals who bring in six figures a year and have been doing this for 30-40 years...waste of time and breath.
Pop said second unit misses Pau's passing. He will take Poetl's place and actually is yet another 3 point shooter so they will have a 5 out lineup. Poetl can then go back to starting lineup where he started season now that he's found his groove and LMA doesn't have to play center and Derozan can actually move to shooting guard...White/Forbes, Derozan, Poetl, Gay, Aldridge...Spurs go on to dominate rest of season.
Hey Apa there's your top 10 post...(imitating worlds most interesting man) I don't post often but when I do it's worth it.

Actually starting Gasol in place of Forbes would make more sense. High-low action with Aldridge and still spaces the floor, so you don't lose much spacing in the starting line up, while the bench unit still has the roll man in Poeltl to free up shooters. With that being said if it works to play a Forbes, Mills, Beli, Bertans, Poeltl line up, the Spurs could trade for a 3-and-D SF and have him replace Forbes in the starting line up. Right now I still like Mills & Forbes separated but they will have to figure this out as the season progresses. Forbes is a defensive liability going up against opposing guards. One reason he didn't get torched yesterday was Teague sitting out and Rose only playing one half

[tbdog]

Forbes marked Covington tonight while white marked rose. Forbes does better against bigger players.

[Dverde]

Forbes marked Covington tonight while white marked rose. Forbes does better against bigger players.

He can’t do worse.

[jermaine]

This lineup works so well cuz they all move well without the ball an Purtel rolls well to the rim. With DDR, Gay, LMA... the ball stops so much. To me, DDR an Purtel dont mix. It's crazy cuz DDR distributes tbh ball so well. Just not with Purtel.

[RC_Drunkford]

Forbes marked Covington tonight while white marked rose. Forbes does better against bigger players.

yeah obviously White will have the toughest assignment but when a team has 2 offensive guards it's harder to hide Forbes

[Lukawhi]

that lineup reminded me a lot of the 2014 spurs, damn :lobt2:

[DAF86]

It's Pop's public comments if you followed team. He's not only better shooter but 10x better passer/facilitator

Well, it would be a mistake to insert Gasol for Poeltl, imho.

[TD 21]

It's a nice quartet of players to compliment Bryn for sure. Surrounding him with shooters and a strong rebounder is gonna get points.


https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275340&page=3




It's not all about what's best for the starters though, it's also what's best for the 2nd unit. Mills is not only not a starting caliber player, but has chemistry with Ginobili and Belinelli. It's easy to envision Poeltl, Bertans and White, fitting in with their free flowing style. They don't need a designated go-to scorer/ball stopper inhibiting that.



No spacing on O for the first unit and no size or defense and no offensive foundation for the second unit. Manu should not even be playing at this point, let alone being the main bench creator. Sure, back in like 2012, that would be an intriguing unit, but even that squad had Diaw and Jack to assist.



First, Gay can create just fine when he wants to. But second, Gay doesn't have to be a play-maker in his own right to relieve Manu's burden. Just him being able to catch the ball and make something happen or being a guy they can throw it to in the post would help



Gay isn't a p-n-r initiator though; he's a mid post ISO scorer. He's not creating for the rest of the 2nd unit any more than Mills' off ball movement/gravity would.



I don't see it as the burden you do. I suspect they'll be lots of mixing and matching and the stretches they play full 2nd unit, their perpetual motion and IQ will make up for the lack of a static, go-to scorer.



I just think you underestimate the importance of having an anchor on the court at all times. Manu had been that for years. Diaw did that in 2014. Gay had his moments where he did that last year. Even if it didn't seem like it, Manu always had the ability to get a bucket for himself when the bench was in its prime. He did that when the team needed it, and that threat made it easy for the rolling big to get good looks. I just don't see Manu being the guy who can pound that rock at this point.

[Chinook]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275340&page=3

Nice to see you trying to call scoreboard again. Think you missed some things:

First, my comment about Forbes was tongue-in-cheek.

Second, neither Forbes nor White is part of the bench. White's also not part of the titular lineup. No idea why you're calling specific attention to that, especially because in the context of the referenced thread, neither of us would have had a problem with the White/Bertans/Poeltl trio.

Third, you didn't predict Gay being an elite three-point shooter more than anyone else. That's what makes the starting unit work. What you did predict and deserve props for what Gay's dual starter/bench role. I don't love Pop's rotation, but he's doing just what you said he would do, and Rudy is making it work.

Fourth, our actual disagreement in that thread was whether the Spurs would start Murray/DeRozan/Gay/Aldridge/Gasol or Mills/Murray/DeRozan/Aldridge/Gasol. Eventually, Gasol and Poeltl became untenable in the SL, and of course Murray got injured. But I do think Forbes/White/DeRozan/Gay/Aldridge is closer to a win for me than for you. DeRozan playing the three is what most of the fuss was about, especially in contrast to Rudy doing that. The names have changed, but a small shooting guard and defensive-minded PG next to DeRozan still ended up being the way they went. They tried Gay at the three, but that fell apart. Call it a push? I guess.

[TD 21]

Nice to see you trying to call scoreboard again. Think you missed some things:

First, my comment about Forbes was tongue-in-cheek.

Second, neither Forbes nor White is part of the bench. White's also not part of the titular lineup. No idea why you're calling specific attention to that, especially because in the context of the referenced thread, neither of us would have had a problem with the White/Bertans/Poeltl trio.

Third, you didn't predict Gay being an elite three-point shooter more than anyone else. That's what makes the starting unit work. What you did predict and deserve props for what Gay's dual starter/bench role. I don't love Pop's rotation, but he's doing just what you said he would do, and Rudy is making it work.

Fourth, our actual disagreement in that thread was whether the Spurs would start Murray/DeRozan/Gay/Aldridge/Gasol or Mills/Murray/DeRozan/Aldridge/Gasol. Eventually, Gasol and Poeltl became untenable in the SL, and of course Murray got injured. But I do think Forbes/White/DeRozan/Gay/Aldridge is closer to a win for me than for you. DeRozan playing the three is what most of the fuss was about, especially in contrast to Rudy doing that. The names have changed, but a small shooting guard and defensive-minded PG next to DeRozan still ended up being the way they went. They tried Gay at the three, but that fell apart. Call it a push? I guess.





None of this really matters except for this: You claimed the bench couldn't function offensively without a designated go-to guy, I said the exact opposite and I've been proven right.

[ceperez]

Only works if players more without the ball.