Laughable

[Collins21]

The lack of basketball knowledge and revisionist history by some posters is astounding. Yes LA has his warts not gonna defend some of the shit he does. However when people say he's a career loser I stop and think that's BS. His tenure withe the Spurs he had one bad season and one bad post season. You kill Lamarcus for that it's justified it's just that the same people who kill LA for his post season failures loved Kawhi. Now if it's true that Kawhi is a much better player than LA whys it that he's choked worse than LA in the playoffs. This dude shit the bed 2 consecutive years in the playoffs but y'all still swallowed his jizz. I still say there would be no LA in San Antonio if Kawhi didn't let Matt Barnes sodomize him in 2015. Then the next year Andre Roberson Anally raped the guy. So yes LA has been inconsistent but I have one year of him putting this team on his back when it should have been in the lottery.

[RC_Drunkford]

most people just don't understand that it's perimeter players who are clutch not big men. This is mostly due to Tim Duncan being here and people expecting LaMarcus to be Tim

[phxspurfan]

Alt account!

[Collins21]

Not at all just the truth. Most of you don't know basketball and are just blinded by personal vendettas against players. I'm not a LMA defender but I know bullshit when I see it.

[DAF86]

Not at all just the truth. Most of you don't know basketball and are just blinded by personal vendettas against players. I'm not a LMA defender but I know bullshit when I see it.

"Personal vendettas". :lol Why would I, or any other fan, have "personal vendettas" against players that we don't know personally? :lol

[BackHome]

No vendettas people just stupid

[DAF86]

No vendettas people just stupid

Why? Because they aren't blind homers and they point out the fact that DeRozan and Aldridge are among the most inefficient "star players" in the league?

[Collins21]

"Personal vendettas". :lol Why would I, or any other fan, have "personal vendettas" against players that we don't know personally? :lol

You clearly state you never wanted Aldridge on the team in the first place so every time he plays bad you bump old threads on some "I told you so shit" You have an axe to grind with the dude and that's fine but it's fine for me to point the shit out as well. Give me pure basketball reasons as to why sticking with that worn out core that got beat in the first round would have been better than adding a perennial All Star?

[kaji157]

I don't completely agree with the op but I have to say that a lot of posters seems to somehow believe Leonard left in part because of Aldridge.
We need to remember that Leonard cashed in 20 millions, faked an injury, didn't support his teammates and left the team that allowed him to be who he is, in a bitch move never seen in the NBA.
That said, Aldridge being here or not wouldn't have changed that, because Leonard shown his true colors, he is about the money. And he left because he thinks here it would be harder to get.
End of story.

[DAF86]

You clearly state you never wanted Aldridge on the team in the first place

That's a lie, I was ecstatic when we first got Aldridge, and I was an Aldridge apologist for his first season and a half here. But then, I simply realized he wasn't that good, tbh.


Give me pure basketball reasons as to why sticking with that worn out core that got beat in the first round would have been better than adding a perennial All Star?

And who's saying that?

[JeffDuncan]

OP is patently a faggot.

[HarlemHeat37]

I find it strange that many Spurs fans have a soft spot for Aldridge..he asked for a trade after the team reached the fucking WCFs:lol he would have been willing to go to a worse team just to get his touches back..there's nothing likable about him..

Kawhi doing what he did doesn't change Aldridge's character..

[Arcadian]

I find it strange that many Spurs fans have a soft spot for Aldridge..he asked for a trade after the team reached the fucking WCFs:lol he would have been willing to go to a worse team just to get his touches back..there's nothing likable about him..

Kawhi doing what he did doesn't change Aldridge's character..

He asked for a trade, but then he worked it out, stayed, and came back strong the next season. It was convenient for him that Kawhi pulled his stunt shortly after, which completely overshadowed it and overwrote the fans' memories.

[Slippy]

He asked for a trade, but then he worked it out, stayed, and came back strong the next season. It was convenient for him that Kawhi pulled his stunt shortly after, which completely overshadowed it and overwrote the fans' memories.

But they worked It out. How exactly did Kawhi work with pop? Also what did Kawhi do when they players tried to have a chat.

There's nothing overwritten. One guy was mature and approachable. While Kawhi was opposite, setting his own standards and he alienated his team.

[TD 21]

I haven't seen that at all. He's been mostly despised from about 5 minutes after he signed.

Since he clearly signed here initially because he wanted to live in San Antonio far more than he wanted to be a Spur, I never bought that he actually wanted out. He clearly wanted them to coalesce to his preferred style and probably knew he had them over a barrel.

Despite those things and his obvious flaws, particularly in this era, I'll always appreciate him being the one star willing to sign here.

[timtonymanu]

Suck my dick OP. Spurs fans are so soft having to root for a career loser. Smh from the big 3 to this loser

[Collins21]

Suck my dick OP. Spurs fans are so soft having to root for a career loser. Smh from the big 3 to this loser

This is the stupid shit I'm talking about if you don't play for the Spurs, Lakers, Warriors or any team LeBron has been on the past 15 years then I guess your a career loser. Hell LA has only missed the playoffs twice his whole time in the league. See these are facts not stupid shit like "faggot" or "suck my dick" like most of the lower basketball IQ posters on this site run to when called out.

[RC_Drunkford]

Despite those things and his obvious flaws, particularly in this era, I'll always appreciate him being the one star willing to sign here.

this is the main reason why Spurs fans should like him. He's not Tim, but adding him was a no brainer and if you are trying to replace Tim Duncan a prime LaMarcus Aldridge is probably as good as you could do besides maybe signing Anthony Davis. Back then I thought Marc Gasol, who was also a free agent, would fit our style of play more, mainly because of his passing skills. But Gasol wanted to stay in Memphis so signing Aldridge was a no-brainer. People need to realize Duncan's 2nd knee got bad that season and the reason why we were still able to cruise to back to back 60 wins is mainly cause LaMarcus signed here (and Kawhi becoming an All-Star). Just imagine being stuck with a big men line up of injured Tiago Splitter, fat Boris Diaw and David West

[Collins21]

this is the main reason why Spurs fans should like him. He's not Tim, but adding him was a no brainer and if you are trying to replace Tim Duncan a prime LaMarcus Aldridge is probably as good as you could do besides maybe signing Anthony Davis. Back then I thought Marc Gasol, who was also a free agent, would fit our style of play more, mainly because of his passing skills. But Gasol wanted to stay in Memphis so signing Aldridge was a no-brainer. People need to realize Duncan's 2nd knee got bad that season and the reason why we were still able to cruise to back to back 60 wins is mainly cause LaMarcus signed here (and Kawhi becoming an All-Star). Just imagine being stuck with a big men line up of injured Tiago Splitter, fat Boris Diaw and David West

Exactly.

[hater]

Sky is blue

Most posters are stupid

Thanks for the enlightnment OP :rolleyes

[SpursBig3s]

We’re just spoiled as fans bc we got 20 years of the best PF the game has ever seen, and one of the 5 best big men to ever play. This is exactly the difference between being a good player and a great player. Yes, LA did demand a trade after a great season but the fact of the matter is he was right. We weren’t using him to the best of his abilities. Also, it speaks to his character that he was willing to actually meet with Pop man to man and hash out his complaints. You would think that’s just common sense, but we clearly it’s not judging by what that bitch ass did to us for a whole year. It’s just unfortunate that his skill set which he’s very good at is antiquated in today’s NBA. He’s not perfect, but Aldridge gets way too much hate from Spurs fans when he literally put the team on his back to the playoffs. Let’s not forget that Manu and Tony were on the team. They’re over the hill and Parker literally playing on 1 leg. I’m sure they greatly appreciated Aldridge manning up, going to work and doing everything he could to get them to playoffs. I sure did.

[RD2191]

Fuck you and fuck LMA, choking faggot. He's a bitch just like you and your faggot thread. Only a bitch would defend that fat lazy piece of shit. Keep it up and I'll find you and kick your fucking ass, btich.

[JeffDuncan]

Fuck you and fuck LMA, choking faggot. He's a bitch just like you and your faggot thread. Only a bitch would defend that fat lazy piece of shit. Keep it up and I'll find you and kick your fucking ass, btich.

Somebody's been smoking the cranberry sauce.

[R. DeMurre]

It's funny how little has been written about the Aldridge/Kawhi relationship. LMA wanted a trade at one point, then Kawhi wanted a trade... As the #1 & #2 scorers, I've seen almost no references in print to their friendship or their dynamic as teammates. I'm guessing they weren't very tight.

[ECOV]

Somebody's been smoking the cranberry sauce.

He gets no puss

[Collins21]

Fuck you and fuck LMA, choking faggot. He's a bitch just like you and your faggot thread. Only a bitch would defend that fat lazy piece of shit. Keep it up and I'll find you and kick your fucking ass, btich.

Very funny. This is A+ comedy right here lol.

[RD2191]

Very funny. This is A+ comedy right here lol.

Try me, faggot.

[RD2191]

He gets no puss

More than you, faggot.

[Collins21]

Try me, faggot.
OK buddy lol.

[stu scotts eye]

Fuck you and fuck LMA, choking faggot. He's a bitch just like you and your faggot thread. Only a bitch would defend that fat lazy piece of shit. Keep it up and I'll find you and kick your fucking ass, btich.

Remember when we used to say this shit in the 90s. Faggot. Suck my dick.

I remember i used to when I was in middle school. Now spurstalk bitch boys still talk like this when they are adults.

How many of your 47,124 posts have any value dipshit? Everyone on this site needs to post a pic of themselves and their ladies, and we can all vote on who the real bitches and losers are.

This has nothing to do with LMA. It has all to do with reading nonsense everytime I come to this board. Yall suck. My woman is finer than yours and I make more money than 95% of yall. So get off internet messageboards, stop posting 40k+ posts. And eat shit and die all of you.

Merry Xmas.

[Collins21]

Remember when we used to say this shit in the 90s. Faggot. Suck my dick.

I remember i used to when I was in middle school. Now spurstalk bitch boys still talk like this when they are adults.

How many of your 47,124 posts have any value dipshit? Everyone on this site needs to post a pic of themselves and their ladies, and we can all vote on who the real bitches and losers are.

Exactly all he does is say nonsense dude is probably a real loser in the real world.
This has nothing to do with LMA. It has all to do with reading nonsense everytime I come to this board. Yall suck. My woman is finer than yours and I make more money than 95% of yall. So get off internet messageboards, stop posting 40k+ posts. And eat shit and die all of you.

Merry Xmas.

[RD2191]

Remember when we used to say this shit in the 90s. Faggot. Suck my dick.

I remember i used to when I was in middle school. Now spurstalk bitch boys still talk like this when they are adults.

How many of your 47,124 posts have any value dipshit? Everyone on this site needs to post a pic of themselves and their ladies, and we can all vote on who the real bitches and losers are.

This has nothing to do with LMA. It has all to do with reading nonsense everytime I come to this board. Yall suck. My woman is finer than yours and I make more money than 95% of yall. So get off internet messageboards, stop posting 40k+ posts. And eat shit and die all of you.

Merry Xmas.

2/10 weak

[RD2191]

OK buddy lol.

Time and place, faggot.

[stu scotts eye]

2/10 weak

Weak bc it hits you where it hurts bitch boy? Who the fuck has time to post that much? You're obviously a fatass beaner who lives with his mom and grandma in the same small, southside SA home where there are stray pitbulls roaming.

You probably also play dungeons and dragons while your tia makes you meatloaf.

[Collins21]

Time and place, faggot.

You're a clown bro i's probably knock you out easily but then again we're never going to meet so what's the point of talking about it.

[RD2191]

You're a clown bro i's probably knock you out easily but then again we're never going to meet so what's the point of talking about it.

Time and place, pussy.

[RD2191]

Weak bc it hits you where it hurts bitch boy? Who the fuck has time to post that much? You're obviously a fatass beaner who lives with his mom and grandma in the same small, southside SA home where there are stray pitbulls roaming.

You probably also play dungeons and dragons while your tia makes you meatloaf.

1/10 even weaker

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It's funny how little has been written about the Aldridge/Kawhi relationship. LMA wanted a trade at one point, then Kawhi wanted a trade... As the #1 & #2 scorers, I've seen almost no references in print to their friendship or their dynamic as teammates. I'm guessing they weren't very tight.

Yeah, something odd must have been going on with them. But I always found it amazing that Aldridge never took the bait to trash him, even once, last year. And we all knew that Kawhi was fucking the team and Aldridge especially with his antics. The amount of shit Aldridge would have had to shoulder had we cratered last year would have been massive. And yet he carried that team against all odds to 47 fucking wins. Honestly, that pressure would have punked most people on a franchise with such high expectations. But it might have been Aldridge's best season. Fucking stud. Fuck Kawhi.

[jmard5]

Fuck you and fuck LMA, choking faggot. He's a bitch just like you and your faggot thread. Only a bitch would defend that fat lazy piece of shit. Keep it up and I'll find you and kick your fucking ass, btich.

Keyboard warrior here!

[jmard5]

Haters gonna hate. I guess we'll have to live with those kind of people on board. The nephew saga, the recent injuries and with the core out, the Spurs are still a fun team to watch if you temper your expectations. The Spurs are doing great, with these changes and the roster they have.

Nice post OP, by the way. Let's enjoy the ride.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

His play is definitely down from last year and I think it's age related and him carrying the team last year. He simply can't produce the energy needed to play both ends of the court. He needs a reduced roll on offense and needs to focus more on the defensive side. He should only be playing about 30 minutes a game. I think he would improve with less minutes.

[stu scotts eye]

Lol Rob Diaz. That all you got you fat fuck?

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

It's funny how little has been written about the Aldridge/Kawhi relationship. LMA wanted a trade at one point, then Kawhi wanted a trade... As the #1 & #2 scorers, I've seen almost no references in print to their friendship or their dynamic as teammates. I'm guessing they weren't very tight. I think Leonard's uncle wanted to negotiate a Max contract during last season and Spurs wanted to wait until after the season over. And because they're weren't ready to negotiate he forced a trade. Leeonard was okay with it because I think he had a beef with someone on the team and I think it was Parker. Probably something that had been going on for a wile even before the locker room incident. That's why Parker is gone too. I just don't buy that Parker left to get more minutes, he would of got minutes here even with out the Murray injury. Don't think the Spurs wanted him back because he was partially responsible for the Leonard trade. Funny that Pop didn't mention Parker as one of the leaders last season when he made his comments about Leonard not being a leader. Just my opinion and I'm not a Parker hater.

[RD2191]

Lol Rob Diaz. That all you got you fat fuck?

Time and place, you cock eyed mother fucker.

[FanSince03]

So this is basically to shit on Kawhi and not defend LMA?. wtf is this post. lol. when i first read the first line i was almost gona applaud you coz you sounded smart but then you say Kawhi........... you're basically just, justifying and comparing LMA to Kawhi. Try defending LMA without comparing him to another player. You're post basically, LMA ------------>Kawhi is shit.

[ECOV]

More than you, faggot.

Stay mad pus

[RD2191]

Stay mad pus

So you are a faggot? Lol, faggit.

[ECOV]

So you are a faggot? Lol, faggit.

One word bitch lol:lol same insult be mad stay mad:toast

[RD2191]

One word bitch lol:lol same insult be mad stay mad:toast

You sound mad...

[Collins21]

You sound mad...

You're a fucking weirdo man.

[stu scotts eye]

You're a fucking weirdo man.

He really is. Look at his post history hahaaha. Feel bad for this putz

[RD2191]

You're a fucking weirdo man.

You're the faggot talking to yourself on your alts. :lol

[Collins21]

You're the faggot talking to yourself on your alts. :lol

Naw bruh you're just weirdo.

[ECOV]

You sound mad...
sure:king

[YGWHI]

Now if it's true that Kawhi is a much better player than LA

If you doubt about this...you better watch football, hockey, baseball, any other sport but basketball.

Kawhi is a top 3-5 player in this league, a perennial mvp candidate.

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[DAF86]

If you doubt about this...you better watch football, hockey, baseball, any other sport but basketball.

Kawhi is a top 3-5 player in this league, a perennial mvp candidate.

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Davis, my man :hat

[offset formation]

If you doubt about this...you better watch football, hockey, baseball, any other sport but basketball.

Kawhi is a top 3-5 player in this league, a perennial mvp candidate.

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To be accurate, you've claimed he was screwed in so far as he had a career threatening injury and that he wouldn't ever be the same again.

So if you now claim he's no longer in such a place, you must acknowledge that in fact, he fucked the team over last year by faking an injury. Can't have it both ways.

It's going to be a tough pill for you to swallow and admit you were played so I won't hold my breath...

[hombre]

Hey old people using the word faggot all the time, It's not really an insult anymore. Most everyone knows that people that are super vocal about their hate of gay people are usually self-loathing gays themselves. You might be, I don't really care either way I just want to let you know how you appear to the younger generation.

[stu scotts eye]

You're the faggot talking to yourself on your alts. :lol

You're a faggot looking at your post history hahahaha

[gospursgojas]

This thread, in a nutshell, is why ST isn’t what it used to be.

[jmard5]

Exactly. It's like, every Spurs loss, somebody else is a scrub and the FO is pathetic.

[YGWHI]

To be accurate, you've claimed he was screwed in so far as he had a career threatening injury and that he wouldn't ever be the same again.

So if you now claim he's no longer in such a place, you must acknowledge that in fact, he fucked the team over last year by faking an injury. Can't have it both ways.

It's going to be a tough pill for you to swallow and admit you were played so I won't hold my breath...

Do you think he's the same player than in 2017?? He's playing at MVP level but he's not that guy...yet. Could be or not...At this point who knows.

He doesn't play b2b because a reason. If he was super-healthy he would play those games...He can't force his quad and his last hip injury looked bad for almost a week.

People here believe he wasn't injured but it's clear he was if we watched the 9 games he played last season and the first 10 of this season

[NameLess Scrub]

Do you think he's the same player than in 2017?? He's playing at MVP level but he's not that guy...yet. Could be or not...At this point who knows.

He doesn't play b2b because a reason. If he was super-healthy he would play those games...He can't force his quad and his last hip injury looked bad for almost a week.

People here believe he wasn't injured but it's clear he was if we watched the 9 games he played last season and the first 10 of this season

Right now it seems he didn't fake the injury, but exaggerated it to use it as an excuse to abandon the team.

Resting a lot would've been better than just leaving the team.

He's still a great basketball player and I watch Raptors games, but it's very hard to justify his behavior last season.

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Do you think he's the same player than in 2017?? He's playing at MVP level but he's not that guy...yet. Could be or not...At this point who knows.

He doesn't play b2b because a reason. If he was super-healthy he would play those games...He can't force his quad and his last hip injury looked bad for almost a week.

People here believe he wasn't injured but it's clear he was if we watched the 9 games he played last season and the first 10 of this season

You're wrong and you know it. But I'll go out on a limb here to show you when I'll be officially able to prove you wrong. Please make sure to pay special attention because if you'll recall, all the criticisms below were heard about the Spurs.

Next offseason, he's going to bolt for LA.

Which means the following: he's going to leave a franchise that is CHAMPIONSHIP quality now; they won 59 games last year and will probably match that this year so his TEAM is really good; they are young and athletic, not full of aging vets that hold team meetings and demand accountability from him; he's in a world class city not some shithole backwater (the insinuation his group let out) where he can market himself (recall his new shoe deal); he's got a very easy path to the conference finals in the Eastern Conference each year where he can market himself even more; he's the clear leader of the team (no co-leader LMA type issues for example); he has a young, relatively inexperienced coach that kisses his ass (no demanding meanie like Pop); he's getting lots of personal recognition that he didn't get in SA; he's not being forced to play by a mean front office and bad doctors that belittle him publicly -- in fact, they appear to kiss his ass and demur to everyone of his wishes....

When he leaves the Raptors this offseason, there can be ZERO doubt what he did to the Spurs last year. None. And recall that as recently as like a week ago, his people were leaking that he was still leaning on going to LA next year. They're not going to do to them what he did to the Spurs because he's an unrestricted free agent so there's no need to power play them.

Fuck that cat.

[DPG21920]

If you doubt about this...you better watch football, hockey, baseball, any other sport but basketball.

Kawhi is a top 3-5 player in this league, a perennial mvp candidate.

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Shocking you’re here posting all the Kawhi stuff lol

[DAF86]

Hey old people using the word faggot all the time, It's not really an insult anymore. Most everyone knows that people that are super vocal about their hate of gay people are usually self-loathing gays themselves. You might be, I don't really care either way I just want to let you know how you appear to the younger generation.

Shut up faggot.

[DPG21920]

Hey old people using the word faggot all the time, It's not really an insult anymore. Most everyone knows that people that are super vocal about their hate of gay people are usually self-loathing gays themselves. You might be, I don't really care either way I just want to let you know how you appear to the younger generation.

1. Overall you’re correct
2. I think you’re sorely mistaken if you think it’s only old people. Young people are pretty trash too

[DPG21920]

I’m not one to tell people (unless it’s about Kawhi) how to feel. But OP is correct and SA fans are way to hard on LMA. He’s like 99% of stars other than Lebron/Curry; flawed.

He wasn’t always in the best of shape. He’s not Lebron. He asked for a trade. Those are all valid complaints. But stepping back it’s nitpicking.

He chose SA when no other star FA (that wasn’t already on the team) really did. He didn’t cause issues in the community or with the team. He aired his grievances professionally and was open to feedback and stuck with the team in what turned out to be one of the darkest times ever (new generation). He also has proven his value and helped keep SA more than relevant (we got to a WCF with him which many didn’t think possible post Tim).

Beyond that he’s actually worked on his game; came in not known at all for defense and now? He’s had some legit sustained impact on that end.

He has not gone to the media. He kept things in house and even flawed he’s impacted winning more than many all stars. So in that light? Yeah - he’s someone that should be appreciated. Every star, whether a true star or fringe (like the VAST MAJORITY of people called stars) has flaws.

Russ. Harden. AD. List goes on and can call them all overrated chokers based on the LMA criteria.

[TimmyBuckets]

What's laughable is we're still talking abut kawitter in every thread. Cuckedtalk.com. What's not laughable is Spurs play this 10 game stretch, with 8/10 being wins. The only thing is that only 2 of the games were on the road. Hopefully LMA can keep up the effort on the road. Nuggets game is gonna be a decent barometer.

[RD2191]

You're a faggot looking at your post history hahahaha

Going through my post history? You're both a loser and a faggot.

[DPG21920]

What's laughable is we're still talking abut kawitter in every thread. Cuckedtalk.com. What's not laughable is Spurs play this 10 game stretch, with 8/10 being wins. The only thing is that only 2 of the games were on the road. Hopefully LMA can keep up the effort on the road. Nuggets game is gonna be a decent barometer.

It’s difficult to call anything a barometer in the west. It’s the most parity I’ve ever seen personally.

[Chucho]

RD2191 getting shat all over, even when he was "done with this team".

[RD2191]

RD2191 getting shat all over, even when he was "done with this team".

Oh look, the triggered native American :lmao

[stu scotts eye]

Going through my post history? You're both a loser and a faggot.

Hahahaha. Ya Mad bro? Gonna ask mommy to return your video games now hahha?

Nothing I like more than calling out chumps like you. Can't take the heat now Mr. 47,146 posts? Ooooh. You used "faggot" again.

Embarrassed about your post history? Embarrassed about what you've become in your life? Too bad buddy. You did it to yourself.

[TimDunkem]

^Why would a kid ask his mom to return his video games? Old people can't insult.

[RD2191]

Hahahaha. Ya Mad bro? Gonna ask mommy to return your video games now hahha?

Nothing I like more than calling out chumps like you. Can't take the heat now Mr. 47,146 posts? Ooooh. You used "faggot" again.

Embarrassed about your post history? Embarrassed about what you've become in your life? Too bad buddy. You did it to yourself.

Wow. What a meltdown.

[RD2191]

^Why would a kid ask his mom to return his video games? Old people can't insult.

Yeah, lame as shit. Tbh.

[duncan2k5]

The lack of basketball knowledge and revisionist history by some posters is astounding. Yes LA has his warts not gonna defend some of the shit he does. However when people say he's a career loser I stop and think that's BS. His tenure withe the Spurs he had one bad season and one bad post season. You kill Lamarcus for that it's justified it's just that the same people who kill LA for his post season failures loved Kawhi. Now if it's true that Kawhi is a much better player than LA whys it that he's choked worse than LA in the playoffs. This dude shit the bed 2 consecutive years in the playoffs but y'all still swallowed his jizz. I still say there would be no LA in San Antonio if Kawhi didn't let Matt Barnes sodomize him in 2015. Then the next year Andre Roberson Anally raped the guy. So yes LA has been inconsistent but I have one year of him putting this team on his back when it should have been in the lottery.
U are comparing a Kawhi that was young and budding to a guy who is in his prime? Aldridge not only choked, he completely disappeared IN HIS PRIME! Kawhi was never supposed to be a star... He wasn't the guy carrying the franchise until he actually hit his prime in 2017...and he was statistically the clutches player in the league that year, and was having the best postseason in the league before he went down

[duncan2k5]

I’m not one to tell people (unless it’s about Kawhi) how to feel. But OP is correct and SA fans are way to hard on LMA. He’s like 99% of stars other than Lebron/Curry; flawed.

He wasn’t always in the best of shape. He’s not Lebron. He asked for a trade. Those are all valid complaints. But stepping back it’s nitpicking.

He chose SA when no other star FA (that wasn’t already on the team) really did. He didn’t cause issues in the community or with the team. He aired his grievances professionally and was open to feedback and stuck with the team in what turned out to be one of the darkest times ever (new generation). He also has proven his value and helped keep SA more than relevant (we got to a WCF with him which many didn’t think possible post Tim).

Beyond that he’s actually worked on his game; came in not known at all for defense and now? He’s had some legit sustained impact on that end.

He has not gone to the media. He kept things in house and even flawed he’s impacted winning more than many all stars. So in that light? Yeah - he’s someone that should be appreciated. Every star, whether a true star or fringe (like the VAST MAJORITY of people called stars) has flaws.

Russ. Harden. AD. List goes on and can call them all overrated chokers based on the LMA criteria.

Professional? Aldridge always pouts on the court... And he requested a trade and didn't give a reason UNTIL he couldn't be traded and HAD to work it out... And the issue was he wanted to shoot more! Wtf?

[DPG21920]

Professional? Aldridge always pouts on the court... And he requested a trade and didn't give a reason UNTIL he couldn't be traded and HAD to work it out... And the issue was he wanted to shoot more! Wtf?

Yeah. If you think LMA was unprofessional then that has to mean Kawhi needed to be sued for breach of contract for how he acted.

[benefactor]

:lol today's asswiper

[Chucho]

Oh look, the triggered native American :lmao

...laughing at an always triggered cliff jumper. :lmao

[TimmyBuckets]

It’s difficult to call anything a barometer in the west. It’s the most parity I’ve ever seen personally.

Agreed, but you can't deny the stretch has been positive, and LMA is looking pretty good. By barometer I meant for LMA because of his inconsistent play on the road. I'm thinking (more like praying) maybe he really is hitting his stride.


Yeah. If you think LMA was unprofessional then that has to mean Kawhi needed to be sued for breach of contract for how he acted.

No use arguing with Kafluffers. Kawitter can do no wrong in their eyes.

[stu scotts eye]

^Why would a kid ask his mom to return his video games? Old people can't insult.

Look at his post history youngin.

And calling someone a faggot is a good insult? Young ppl obviously cant either

[stu scotts eye]

Wow. What a meltdown.

Lol. Look at your post history loser ha.

[YGWHI]

Shocking you’re here posting all the Kawhi stuff lol

Just imagine people here aren't making threads about him/mentioning him every day...I wouldn't have to post his stuff. :D

[YGWHI]

He's still a great basketball player and I watch Raptors games, but it's very hard to justify his behavior last season.
I never said he handled it well, never justify his behavior nor his camp's.

But OP says he has doubts about the best player between Kawhi and LMA...This is not even a question and I find his post very stupid.

[YGWHI]

You're wrong and you know it.
No. I truly believe what I posted.


But I'll go out on a limb here to show you when I'll be officially able to prove you wrong. Please make sure to pay special attention because if you'll recall, all the criticisms below were heard about the Spurs.

Next offseason, he's going to bolt for LA.

Which means the following: he's going to leave a franchise that is CHAMPIONSHIP quality now; they won 59 games last year and will probably match that this year so his TEAM is really good; they are young and athletic, not full of aging vets that hold team meetings and demand accountability from him; he's in a world class city not some shithole backwater (the insinuation his group let out) where he can market himself (recall his new shoe deal); he's got a very easy path to the conference finals in the Eastern Conference each year where he can market himself even more; he's the clear leader of the team (no co-leader LMA type issues for example); he has a young, relatively inexperienced coach that kisses his ass (no demanding meanie like Pop); he's getting lots of personal recognition that he didn't get in SA; he's not being forced to play by a mean front office and bad doctors that belittle him publicly -- in fact, they appear to kiss his ass and demur to everyone of his wishes....

When he leaves the Raptors this offseason, there can be ZERO doubt what he did to the Spurs last year. None. And recall that as recently as like a week ago, his people were leaking that he was still leaning on going to LA next year. They're not going to do to them what he did to the Spurs because he's an unrestricted free agent so there's no need to power play them.

Fuck that cat.

1-I doubt the Raptors are championship quality. I still thinks that C's and Bucks are better...Esp Bucks with way better 3-point shooters, faster and younger guards that can outplay Raptors' guards...

2-Kawhi will leave Raptors for his family, esp. his daughter.
He wants his daughter to grow up close to his fam's love, being close with grandma/aunties/uncles/cousins....

It's pretty obvious that the best for Kawhi's career is staying on a top team but he already has said he can't be selfish, he has to do what's the best for his daughter.


The compass tug of the magnetic North vs. the tug of a 2-year-old on his pinky.

“She’s young, she doesn’t have too much say so,” Leonard says of Kaliyah, who turns 3 in July. “But I’m not just living for myself any more. I try to make the right decisions for her and for her future, thinking about when she’s 13 and I’m not playing any more: Did I make the right decision for myself and for her, or did I just make it for myself being selfish? That’s something different, thinking about her and what she needs in the long run.”

It complicates what for purely basketball reasons might be a slam dunk: a welcome, winning situation with an easier path to the NBA Finals than in a rugged Western Conference that includes the Warriors, LeBron James on the Lakers, Russell Westbrook in Oklahoma City, James Harden in Houston, Damian Lillard in Portland, a rising Denver Nuggets team and whatever Popovich has brewing in San Antonio. Even the Sacramento Kings are decent.

Leonard’s family is from the Inland Empire. His girlfriend and Kaliyah’s mother, Kishele Shipley, also grew up in Southern California and attended San Diego State.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs/sd-sp-kawhi-leonard-toronto-raptors-sdsu-20181227-story.html

[Spurtacular]

Oh look, the triggered native American :lmao

:lmao Does Crusty claim to be Native American?
:lmao He's probably as Native American as his hero Elizabeth Warren.

[DPG21920]

Just imagine people here aren't making threads about him/mentioning him every day...I wouldn't have to post his stuff. :D

No one posts more about Kawhi than you. You aren’t a spurs fan. That’s ok. It’s just weird to pretend when you don’t have to. We would like you just the same if you just be who you are without the facade

[Seventyniner]

No one posts more about Kawhi than you. You aren’t a spurs fan. That’s ok. It’s just weird to pretend when you don’t have to. We would like you just the same if you just be who you are without the facade

Dat backhanded insult :lol

[DPG21920]

Dat backhanded insult :lol

Lol was not an insult. I actually like the poster and have no issues with anything they post other than the weird facade. Zero effort goes into posting about the Spurs or their players, but the second someone says something about Kawhi here comes a detailed and nuanced article complete with stats and video clips :lol

Like, if you are a Spurs fan, on a Spurs site, where is any level of effort for the Spurs?

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No. I truly believe what I posted.



1-I doubt the Raptors are championship quality. I still thinks that C's and Bucks are better...Esp Bucks with way better 3-point shooters, faster and younger guards that can outplay Raptors' guards...

2-Kawhi will leave Raptors for his family, esp. his daughter.
He wants his daughter to grow up close to his fam's love, being close with grandma/aunties/uncles/cousins....

It's pretty obvious that the best for Kawhi's career is staying on a top team but he already has said he can't be selfish, he has to do what's the best for his daughter.


https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs/sd-sp-kawhi-leonard-toronto-raptors-sdsu-20181227-story.html
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Yeah, I read that already. Not sure why you think that helps your defense of him. It only proves my point of his scumbaggery. Homeboy wanted out of SA last year. And rather than just saying that, he, through his representation, trashed the front office, coach Pop, his teammates, the city, and fans. He's a bitch.

As I noted in the above post, instead of doing what LaMarcus did (quietly and honorably) going to Pop and saying he wanted to be traded for X, Y, or Z, they created a disreputable disaster for themselves and were nasty about it unnecessarily.

So again, I say when Kawhi leaves, I've proved my point beyond all dispute. Everything his side criticized about the Spurs (coaches, players, front office) and SA, he is not having with the Raptors and in Toronto.

Deal with it...your boy is a punk ass liar.

[NameLess Scrub]

I never said he handled it well, never justify his behavior nor his camp's.

But OP says he has doubts about the best player between Kawhi and LMA...This is not even a question and I find his post very stupid.

Got it

[YGWHI]

Homeboy wanted out of SA last year. And rather than just saying that, he, through his representation, trashed the front office, coach Pop, his teammates, the city, and fans. He's a bitch.


So again, I say when Kawhi leaves, I've proved my point beyond all dispute.

I think he has the worst representatives in the league but never heard them nor their media guys like Jabari Young/Carter talk shit about the fans/the city.

Only Carter said SA is a small market but that's not trashing the city. Even reporters that love the Spurs would agree that SA is a small market.


Anyway, your point is that Kawhi's quad wasn't injured at all.
ESPN/Woj & Ramona said the Spurs medical staff diagnosed him with degenerative tendinopathy while his camp said he had quad's ossification.
I wouldn't deny an injury when both sides talked about one.

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I think he has the worst representatives in the league but never heard them nor their media guys like Jabari Young/Carter talk shit about the fans/the city.

Only Carter said SA is a small market but that's not trashing the city. Even reporters that love the Spurs would agree that SA is a small market.


Anyway, your point is that Kawhi's quad wasn't injured at all.
ESPN/Woj & Ramona said the Spurs medical staff diagnosed him with degenerative tendinopathy while his camp said he had quad's ossification.
I wouldn't deny an injury when both sides talked about one.

Ahh, but you're forgetting stuff. It went beyond the simple small market stuff you hear about other markets.

There were lots of jabs through his mouthpiece (Carter) about not getting shoe deals because of where he was at. That he wasn't getting the shine he deserved. That the city was too small for him and that he felt stifled going out around town. There were jabs and uppercuts about SA and the fans, and there was stuff that was supposedly leaked by his agent, and uncle's business partner that went beyond that. There was a full out slime job done against the city, the fans, and the organization as a whole.

And btw, ultimately, he himself fucked the fans by letting them down. By not playing, not showing up, not sitting on the bench, not doing what was expected of him in this town, he gave us all the big middle finger. And he's got big fingers. We deserved better because we would have made him a God here had he given us the chance.

Either way, this town will start getting over it on January 3rd. I'll be there to give him a piece of my mind with 17,500 others. After that (and maybe the game in Toronto) he can fuck off to whichever team he and his representation have been planning on going for 2+ years.

Perhaps then, you can move on to stanning that team then too.

[YGWHI]

Zero effort goes into posting about the Spurs or their players
I was following and rooting for the Spus way before the Spurs traded for Kawhi. Many years before. Some people here know that's true.


a detailed and nuanced article complete with stats and video clips :lol
I have a favorite team since I can remember...Spurs

I have a 2nd team since Marc/Conley together...Grizz

I have a favorite player since 2012...Kawhi.

I guess what you don't get is that I love basketball and really enjoy Kawhi's game. It's not about him, it's about his game.

For 5-10' a game I can see some of MJ in him...the same moves...Who wouldn't love to watch it

If he leaves, quits, whatever... I don't care. Other great players left their teams too. Again I don't care. I wanna watch great basketball, great games, great teams and great players.
Not sure why this is so hard to understand.


Like, if you are a Spurs fan, on a Spurs site, where is any level of effort for the Spurs?
I post about the Spurs and other players too. In fact, when no one mentions Kawhi I post only Spurs stuff.

[YGWHI]

Either way, this town will start getting over it on January 3rd.
About time.


I'll be there to give him a piece of my mind with 17,500 others. After that (and maybe the game in Toronto) he can fuck off to whichever team he and his representation have been planning on going for 2+ years.
Agree with you on this. I guess booing him will be therapeutic for most fans. After that, people should move on...

MOVE ON.

[Collins21]

About time.


Agree with you on this. I guess booing him will be therapeutic for most fans. After that, people should move on...

MOVE ON.
I'll give you credit you were the one asking us to stop talking Kawhi and focus on the Spurs.

[YGWHI]

I'll give you credit you were the one asking us to stop talking Kawhi and focus on the Spurs.
:tu

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I'll give you credit you were the one asking us to stop talking Kawhi and focus on the Spurs.

Yep. YGWHI has infuriated me on numerous occasions. And I've tangled on here with him on several threads cause his KY fandom has gotten under my skin. But he's a legit fan, unlike some of these other "fans." And he's a good poster. Looking forward to moving past the Kawhitter issue after Thursday.

[YGWHI]

Yep. YGWHI has infuriated me on numerous occasions. And I've tangled on here with him on several threads cause his KY fandom has gotten under my skin. But he's a legit fan, unlike some of these other "fans." And he's a good poster. Looking forward to moving past the Kawhitter issue after Thursday.
Thanks!

[Slippy]

Yep. YGWHI has infuriated me on numerous occasions. And I've tangled on here with him on several threads cause his KY fandom has gotten under my skin. But he's a legit fan, unlike some of these other "fans." And he's a good poster. Looking forward to moving past the Kawhitter issue after Thursday.

True that.

[sammy]

We’re just spoiled as fans bc we got 20 years of the best PF the game has ever seen, and one of the 5 best big men to ever play. This is exactly the difference between being a good player and a great player. Yes, LA did demand a trade after a great season but the fact of the matter is he was right. We weren’t using him to the best of his abilities. Also, it speaks to his character that he was willing to actually meet with Pop man to man and hash out his complaints. You would think that’s just common sense, but we clearly it’s not judging by what that bitch ass did to us for a whole year. It’s just unfortunate that his skill set which he’s very good at is antiquated in today’s NBA. He’s not perfect, but Aldridge gets way too much hate from Spurs fans when he literally put the team on his back to the playoffs. Let’s not forget that Manu and Tony were on the team. They’re over the hill and Parker literally playing on 1 leg. I’m sure they greatly appreciated Aldridge manning up, going to work and doing everything he could to get them to playoffs. I sure did.

Well said! Great post! Totally agree! :bobo

[sammy]

Ahh, but you're forgetting stuff. It went beyond the simple small market stuff you hear about other markets.

There were lots of jabs through his mouthpiece (Carter) about not getting shoe deals because of where he was at. That he wasn't getting the shine he deserved. That the city was too small for him and that he felt stifled going out around town. There were jabs and uppercuts about SA and the fans, and there was stuff that was supposedly leaked by his agent, and uncle's business partner that went beyond that. There was a full out slime job done against the city, the fans, and the organization as a whole.

And btw, ultimately, he himself fucked the fans by letting them down. By not playing, not showing up, not sitting on the bench, not doing what was expected of him in this town, he gave us all the big middle finger. And he's got big fingers. We deserved better because we would have made him a God here had he given us the chance.

Either way, this town will start getting over it on January 3rd. I'll be there to give him a piece of my mind with 17,500 others. After that (and maybe the game in Toronto) he can fuck off to whichever team he and his representation have been planning on going for 2+ years.

Perhaps then, you can move on to stanning that team then too.

:bobo

[DPG21920]

I was following and rooting for the Spus way before the Spurs traded for Kawhi. Many years before. Some people here know that's true.


I have a favorite team since I can remember...Spurs

I have a 2nd team since Marc/Conley together...Grizz

I have a favorite player since 2012...Kawhi.

I guess what you don't get is that I love basketball and really enjoy Kawhi's game. It's not about him, it's about his game.

For 5-10' a game I can see some of MJ in him...the same moves...Who wouldn't love to watch it

If he leaves, quits, whatever... I don't care. Other great players left their teams too. Again I don't care. I wanna watch great basketball, great games, great teams and great players.
Not sure why this is so hard to understand.


I post about the Spurs and other players too. In fact, when no one mentions Kawhi I post only Spurs stuff.

Can you show me one example, team or player, where you posted about the Spurs with detailed analysis with video clips and stats like you have repeatedly with Kawhi? Just one.