Is there a more overrated player than Kyrie Irving?

[apalisoc_9]

It's funny how a ballhog PG whose job is semmingly tonl score and to score only consistently struggle to out up 23 in a season. He's never had a 30ppg in a month ever.

His scoring is way too inconsistent. It's a travesty that i constantly have to hear him in the same breath as Harden as top scorers.

Unreal tbh.

[Killakobe81]

Sure he is a bit overrated, lots of "stars" are...
But he does, have the best handles in current NBA (maybe ever) and when he is hot from outside (doesn't happen consistently enough imo) he is damn near ungaurdable... Not sure he is top 5 or legit MVP candidates that is why I say a bit overrated but he is a top 10 player when healthy.

[Bynumite]

Kyrie is a proven playoff performer, the only thing holding him back is health. In the playoffs i'm taking Kyrie over any other pg not named Curry.

[ezau]

He is super clutch in the playoffs and an NBA champion. Harden and CP3, on the other hand, are regular-season monsters.

[hater]

He carried Leroids to a ship tbqh

When he left Cleveland tyat team turned into a shithole and leroids had to bolt

Hes great

[Killakobe81]

Kyrie is a proven playoff performer, the only thing holding him back is health. In the playoffs i'm taking Kyrie over any other pg not named Curry.

And there is that... He has hit dome of the biggest shots on the biggest stage

[140]

Any of the Lakers young players tbh

[Killakobe81]

Any of the Lakers young players tbh

that is pretty dumb.
Yes they are overrated especially by Laker fans.
But more overrated than any legit star?!
In fact, I would say the narrative except maybe for Kuzma is starting to shift that they are not meeting expectations especially for Lonzo/Ingram.

I get you trying to be funny (at least I hope so) but reality none of the young lakers are even relevant in this conversation we talking top 10 type players not bottom 50-100.

[ambchang]

Kyrie is a modern day world b free. Only successful because he can’t be touched out in the perimeter.

[JoeTait75]

I don't think anybody really overrates Kyrie. He's seen as pretty much what he is: a gifted scorer and proven clutch performer who also plays spotty defense and is injury-prone. I never hear him talked about in the same breath as the elite players.

[JoeTait75]

Kyrie is a modern day world b free. Only successful because he can’t be touched out in the perimeter.

More a modern-day Andrew Toney, IMO.

[HarlemHeat37]

1. Brandon Ingram
2. Klay Thompson
3. CJ McCollum
4. Porzingis
5. Ben Simmons

Hm: Goran Dragic, Otto Porter

Kyrie was overrated, but I think people realize his flaws and strengths by now..he's actually having the best season of his career, this is the first time he's had any impact on a team other than making a couple of key shots..

[Will Hunting]

His scoring is inconsistent because Ainge thought that the team of well coached role players who made a playoff run by sharing the ball would be able to reintegrate a player who dominates the ball as much as Kyrie does.

Ainge falling to package some combination of the young players who overperformed in the playoffs (Rozier and Brown most notably) while their stock was higher than its ever going to be again will be looked back on as a monumental fuck up.

[Will Hunting]

1. Brandon Ingram
2. Klay Thompson
3. CJ McCollum
4. Porzingis
5. Ben Simmons

Hm: Goran Dragic, Otto Porter

Kyrie was overrated, but I think people realize his flaws and strengths by now..he's actually having the best season of his career, this is the first time he's had any impact on a team other than making a couple of key shots..
Fair point on Porzingis. People still assume he’s a future perennial all star just because he’s a European 7 footer capable of wiping his own ass.

[FkLA]

but he is a top 10 player when healthy.

lol no

He got to play robin next to LeGOAT. There's plenty of second tier stars that would've shined playing alongside LeGOAT. Yeah, he has some clutch in him but that doesn't make him a Top 10 guy. Jason Terry was clutch too and hit some big shots to help Dirk get his title.

[DMC]

He carried Leroids to a ship tbqh

When he left Cleveland tyat team turned into a shithole and leroids had to bolt

Hes great

:lol they still made the Finals without him.

[FkLA]

But to answer the OP's question, probably Luka Donutcic. I've never seen the media try so hard to lump a player in with all-time greats with dumb stats like "the only player alongside LBJ to have a 20/8/7 game at 19 years and 243 days". Or how about his latest "almost" stat? Almost became the youngest player to record a triple double. Maybe he'll be the youngest to almost make the playoffs too.

[daslicer]

But to answer the OP's question, probably Luka Donutcic. I've never seen the media try so hard to lump a player in with all-time greats with dumb stats like "the only player alongside LBJ to have a 20/8/7 game at 19 years and 243 days". Or how about his latest "almost" stat? Almost became the youngest player to record a triple double. Maybe he'll be the youngest to almost make the playoffs too.

They used to do the same thing with Kobe all the time during the 90's. One of the reasons why as a young teenager back then I couldn't stand him.

[SuperCam]

by all metrics killa' kyrie is a top 10 player this season. he will be 1st or 2nd team all nba and quite deservedly...


don't understand why some LeGOAT asswipers still need to attack Kyrie more than two years later tbh. it doesn't add or subtract from LeGOAT's legacy at all, and I say this as just as big of a James fan :lol

[lefty]

Kyrie isn’t the best decision maker but he’s got mad skills and he so clutch...
He also has a personality


I’m a fan tbh

[hater]

:lol they still made the Finals without him.

And lost

[hater]

by all metrics killa' kyrie is a top 10 player this season. he will be 1st or 2nd team all nba and quite deservedly...


don't understand why some LeGOAT asswipers still need to attack Kyrie more than two years later tbh. it doesn't add or subtract from LeGOAT's legacy at all, and I say this as just as big of a James fan :lol

:tu

:lmao tbqh

[313]

He's a top 3 point guard, top 5 guard, and top 10 player. I don't see anyone rank him much higher than what he is.

[TimDunkem]

Russell Westbrook?

Also, I think the Celtics overall are overrated. Funny because they were underrated until last season, and now are definitely overrated.

[Jodelo]

But to answer the OP's question, probably Luka Donutcic. I've never seen the media try so hard to lump a player in with all-time greats with dumb stats like "the only player alongside LBJ to have a 20/8/7 game at 19 years and 243 days". Or how about his latest "almost" stat? Almost became the youngest player to record a triple double. Maybe he'll be the youngest to almost make the playoffs too.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m09wtjkFJ41rn95k2o1_400.gif

[Killakobe81]

lol no

He got to play robin next to LeGOAT. There's plenty of second tier stars that would've shined playing alongside LeGOAT. Yeah, he has some clutch in him but that doesn't make him a Top 10 guy. Jason Terry was clutch too and hit some big shots to help Dirk get his title.

Agree on LeBron... But he still hit some big buckets too...
And his handles and fishing abilities are elite.
He fragile... But when healthy he us like Harden without the flops

[140]

that is pretty dumb.
Yes they are overrated especially by Laker fans.
But more overrated than any legit star?!
In fact, I would say the narrative except maybe for Kuzma is starting to shift that they are not meeting expectations especially for Lonzo/Ingram.

I get you trying to be funny (at least I hope so) but reality none of the young lakers are even relevant in this conversation we talking top 10 type players not bottom 50-100.
you've no room to deny it when there are people here on ST of all places still comparing gonzo to Kidd :lmao that is one of the laziest comparisons I've ever seen and it should've been dead the second that bust stepped on an NBA court tbh :lol

[CitizenDwayne]

Ingram, Tatum

[CitizenDwayne]

Lonzo, Jaylen Brown

[JohnnyMax]

Russell Westbrook - This cancer gets put on Harden and Steph's level while losing in 1st round.

[DMC]

And lost

You cannot say they went to shit if they made the Finals.

[ambchang]

More a modern-day Andrew Toney, IMO.

More apt than mine, thanks.

[Killakobe81]

you've no room to deny it when there are people here on ST of all places still comparing gonzo to Kidd :lmao that is one of the laziest comparisons I've ever seen and it should've been dead the second that bust stepped on an NBA court tbh :lol

Predraft?
Sure.
But if you are considered by many to be a bust how can you still be overrated?
Asmy boy Deeps used to say... That doesn't make any sense.
He used to be overrated but now he is considered underwhelming at best and a full on bust by many both here and on LG.

[Killakobe81]

1. Brandon Ingram
2. Klay Thompson
3. CJ McCollum
4. Porzingis
5. Ben Simmons

Hm: Goran Dragic, Otto Porter

Kyrie was overrated, but I think people realize his flaws and strengths by now..he's actually having the best season of his career, this is the first time he's had any impact on a team other than making a couple of key shots..

I won't agree on whole list but agree on the "unicorn" who I called his injury before it happened... He was good very good but overrated...
And yes I know he better than Ingram was

[DPG21920]

Its Klay Thompson and its not even close. Klay himself acts like some Alpha and he’s talked about often as if he’s a top SG or that he could be a 1A on another team.

[Chris Fall]

Elite scorer and the best handles in the league. And he’s fairly clutch with his shot making ability. Most people know he’s not good defensively and not a great playmaker considering his skill level. But he’s not really viewed or considered one of the premier franchise superstars you need to have to build around. Even Boston has reportedly considered trading him or letting him walk when his contract is up. For the most part, I think he’s generally appropriately rated.

[Killakobe81]

It's funny how a ballhog PG whose job is semmingly tonl score and to score only consistently struggle to out up 23 in a season. He's never had a 30ppg in a month ever.

His scoring is way too inconsistent. It's a travesty that i constantly have to hear him in the same breath as Harden as top scorers.

Unreal tbh.

Andrew Wiggins and his max contract is the most over-rated based on hype, contract talent compared to production.
I would take Kyrie over him a thousand times over...



Wiggins, a career 74 percent free throw shooter, was Minnesota's biggest offender from the stripe in the 123-120 overtime loss. He went 5-of-12 and heard about it from a frustrated home crowd.

But Wiggins didn't take the boos kindly.

"That's fans for you," Wiggins said. "We've got some s---ty fans, and we've got some good fans. That's just how it works."

Smdh

[R. DeMurre]

Though both are flawed, I'd still rather have Kyrie than Westbrook. You can build around Kyrie, but Westbrook's horrible 3pt decisions and usage rate in crunch time are bigger issues than anything Kyrie has, other than health.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

I mean Lonzos dad hyped his son so bad that Lonzo is automatically the most overrated player in the league. Couple in the fact that Magic guaranteed Lonzo jersey in the rafters and all the media comparing him to hall of fame Jason Kidd, it's a no brainer that it's Lonzo.
The next person is Draymond Green tbh. People actually voted him to the all star game last year for averaging 8 points and 8 rebounds a game. He is still regarded by the media as the best perimeter defender in the league. There are people saying that the Warriors don't need KD and will be ok if he leaves bc they have Draymond. It's unreal. Get rid of Donkey and get yourself a bench with his money and they will 4peat tbh

[Killakobe81]

I mean Lonzos dad hyped his son so bad that Lonzo is automatically the most overrated player in the league. Couple in the fact that Magic guaranteed Lonzo jersey in the rafters and all the media comparing him to hall of fame Jason Kidd, it's a no brainer that it's Lonzo.
The next person is Draymond Green tbh. People actually voted him to the all star game last year for averaging 8 points and 8 rebounds a game. He is still regarded by the media as the best perimeter defender in the league. There are people saying that the Warriors don't need KD and will be ok if he leaves bc they have Draymond. It's unreal. Get rid of Donkey and get yourself a bench with his money and they will 4peat tbh

Let me ask you an honest question...
If you or anyone else bought in to hype... Then Zo is a legit answer...
But how many here actually bought in to that hype, honestly?
I thought Jedi mind tricks only work on the weak minded?!:lol
Magic Johnson and Lavar made you believe the hype? Despite the fact Fox destroyed him in the tournament and it was obvious Tatum was the superior prospect?
The fact Magic the salesman and Lavar the con man made you answer, Lonzo... says a lot about how good those two are at their jobs.
Jalen dumbass Rose compared him more aptly to Ricky Rubio than JKidd on draft night are you guys telling me Jalen Rose is smarter than you?

I think he will be better than Rubio but Jalen was right to calm down the hype (as wasI) I'm just surprised so many of y’all fed in to it.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

I never bought into Lonzo bc he was too slow. Kidd was blazing fast with the ball in his hands and Lonzo isn't. But I understand that its Magic Johnson and LA glitz and glammer and they needed to promote and sell to get Lakers fans hyped for the future. But I thought they should've drafted Fox. The dude has Tony Parker speed and a first step that is basically unstoppable. Now that he actually knows how to shoot , the sky's the limit for him. Last year I really wanted us to suck bc I wanted Luka. But no dice
But I can definitely be Jedi mind tricked, just depends on how hot the girl is :lol

[Killakobe81]

I never bought into Lonzo bc he was too slow. Kidd was blazing fast with the ball in his hands and Lonzo isn't. But I understand that its Magic Johnson and LA glitz and glammer and they needed to promote and sell to get Lakers fans hyped for the future. But I thought they should've drafted Fox. The dude has Tony Parker speed and a first step that is basically unstoppable. Now that he actually knows how to shoot , the sky's the limit for him. Last year I really wanted us to suck bc I wanted Luka. But no dice
But I can definitely be Jedi mind tricked, just depends on how hot the girl is :lol

Fox will be good I think very good but definitely starting to get overrated a bit...

[DAF86]

Speaking of Lavar, what happened to him? Lebron's Illuminati friends shut him up?

[Spurtacular]

Kyrie is a proven playoff performer, the only thing holding him back is health. In the playoffs i'm taking Kyrie over any other pg not named Curry.

He's more proven than Curry in the playoffs, bruh.

[StrengthAndHonor]

He's more proven than Curry in the playoffs, bruh.
Easily. Kyrie is big time in the postseason. Even better than Curry.

[HarlemHeat37]

He has 0 career points in the playoffs without LeBron:lol

The Cavs replaced him with George Hill and reached the Finals..the Celtics replaced him with some nigga named Terry and were a game away from reaching it..

[Mr. Body]

Kyrie is definitely one of the most overrated players in the league, but then he's on the most overrated team in the league. He's a very good secondary player, but that wasn't good enough for him. I figure he'll bail and play low-pressure for the rest of his career in New York.

[Spurtacular]

Easily. Kyrie is big time in the postseason. Even better than Curry.

Curry's aware.


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