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HarlemHeat37
12-30-2018, 09:18 PM
:lol typical Luck..playing a perfect game, then just throws it away..
gambit1990
12-30-2018, 09:18 PM
that pass :lol
Darth_Pelican
12-30-2018, 09:20 PM
Anyone got that playoff schedule that NBC just showed in a flash? I can't find it anywhere online by googling, tbh
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article223737495.html
SanAntonioSpurs23
12-30-2018, 09:22 PM
:lol and the momentum is back
gambit1990
12-30-2018, 09:23 PM
:lol
Darth_Pelican
12-30-2018, 09:23 PM
:lol that muffed punt
resistanze
12-30-2018, 09:24 PM
Jesus Christ, what an idiot.
SanAntonioSpurs23
12-30-2018, 09:25 PM
Jesus smh
Darth_Pelican
12-30-2018, 09:25 PM
:lol and another fumble
Millennial_Messiah
12-30-2018, 09:26 PM
Ohhhhhhhhh boy.
As they say, Adoree Jackson got by with "a little help from his friends", there.
gambit1990
12-30-2018, 09:26 PM
wow.
SuperCam
12-30-2018, 09:26 PM
He don't have the Vikes receiving core, rb's, or defense, bruh.
they have mack and a pretty decent defense this year and of course vinny, don't believe the hebe media about him carrying the team. luck has been above average this year that's it, they might get in the playoffs on the backs of some massive chokes by the opposing team
Millennial_Messiah
12-30-2018, 09:27 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article223737495.html
appreciate it!
Darth_Pelican
12-30-2018, 09:37 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/48955997_2299885540064392_4628230180911972352_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=32442af553242fb2e87aec856dda0938&oe=5CCBC78D
Millennial_Messiah
12-30-2018, 09:39 PM
Vinatieri tells Tom Brady to hold his phone. Just celebrated his 46th birthday this past week.
Millennial_Messiah
12-30-2018, 09:43 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/48955997_2299885540064392_4628230180911972352_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=32442af553242fb2e87aec856dda0938&oe=5CCBC78D
Good to see that FOX gets two games in this divisional instead of one. Romo is God tier, but all of CBS' other announcer teams are dogshit so they should never get a second game. Plus they get the SB this year.
also, NBC might get sued if it's the Steelers in there after all... lol.
Millennial_Messiah
12-30-2018, 10:12 PM
that's a really bad call, refs really need to let that shit go on 3rd and really long scenarios unless it's egregious and obvious, but that was iffy... refs handed Indy 7 there
Darth_Pelican
12-30-2018, 10:13 PM
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SanAntonioSpurs23
12-30-2018, 10:19 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49441970_2263702483875894_2637503682345697280_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=b81353fff593f4d533bb976b3b334fb3&oe=5C8C4093
:lol
Darth_Pelican
12-30-2018, 10:46 PM
2019 NFL Draft Order
The 2019 NFL draft order after Sunday's early games. The loser of Sunday night's Colts-Titans game will pick No. 20. Picks 21-32 will be determined by the losers of each playoff round with the Super Bowl champion picking No. 32 overall.
TEAM, RECORD
1.
Cardinals (3-13)
2.
49ers (4-12)
3.
Jets (4-12)
4.
Raiders (4-12)
5.
Buccaneers (5-11)
6.
Giants (5-11)
7.
Jaguars (5-11)
8.
Lions (6-10)
9.
Bills (6-10)
10.
Broncos (6-10)
11.
Bengals (6-10)
12.
Packers (6-9-1)
13.
Dolphins (7-9)
14.
Falcons (7-9)
15.
Redskins (7-9)
16.
Panthers (7-9)
17.
Browns (7-8-1)
18.
Vikings (8-7-1)
19.
Steelers (9-6-1)
20.
Loser of Colts-Texans
Spurtacular
12-30-2018, 10:54 PM
they have mack and a pretty decent defense this year and of course vinny, don't believe the hebe media about him carrying the team. luck has been above average this year that's it, they might get in the playoffs on the backs of some massive chokes by the opposing team
Colts core has nothing on Vikes core. This has nothing to do with the media. They pulled Kirk Cousins to a winning season; but the team needs a real starter; Luck would fit that bill.
Spurtacular
12-30-2018, 10:56 PM
2019 NFL Draft Order
The 2019 NFL draft order after Sunday's early games. The loser of Sunday night's Colts-Titans game will pick No. 20. Picks 21-32 will be determined by the losers of each playoff round with the Super Bowl champion picking No. 32 overall.
TEAM, RECORD
1.
Cardinals (3-13)
2.
49ers (4-12)
3.
Jets (4-12)
4.
Raiders (4-12)
5.
Buccaneers (5-11)
6.
Giants (5-11)
7.
Jaguars (5-11)
8.
Lions (6-10)
9.
Bills (6-10)
10.
Broncos (6-10)
11.
Bengals (6-10)
12.
Packers (6-9-1)
13.
Dolphins (7-9)
14.
Falcons (7-9)
15.
Redskins (7-9)
16.
Panthers (7-9)
17.
Browns (7-8-1)
18.
Vikings (8-7-1)
19.
Steelers (9-6-1)
20.
Loser of Colts-Texans
And yet the Cardinals were trying to play their way out of the #1 pick. I don't understand that.
resistanze
12-30-2018, 10:57 PM
:lmao Gabbert
Will Hunting
12-30-2018, 11:00 PM
And yet the Cardinals were trying to play their way out of the #1 pick. I don't understand that.
A “players coach” who was hoping that winning at the end would save his job + a group of players who played hard to try and save their coaches job because they like having a coach who doesn’t require any semblance of accountability.
SuperCam
12-30-2018, 11:04 PM
any top 30 qb wins this game for tennessee tbqh. such a faggy division
Spurtacular
12-30-2018, 11:05 PM
A “players coach” who was hoping that winning at the end would save his job + a group of players who played hard to try and save their coaches job because they like having a coach who doesn’t require any semblance of accountability.
Playing to screw over the team's future shouldn't save anyone's job. Sorry but that's media narrative, not reality.
Millennial_Messiah
12-30-2018, 11:17 PM
Good to see the best QBs in the NFL are represented in the playoffs for the most part. Shit tier QBs like Gabbert and Bortles and Cousins and Mariota are bad for playoff TV.
Millennial_Messiah
12-30-2018, 11:19 PM
Playing to screw over the team's future shouldn't save anyone's job. Sorry but that's media narrative, not reality.
who should they take at #1 honestly? Herbert is staying in school and they believe in Rosen. So I'm assuming they likely trade down for a team builder pack of picks?
Millennial_Messiah
12-30-2018, 11:21 PM
2019 NFL Draft Order
The 2019 NFL draft order after Sunday's early games. The loser of Sunday night's Colts-Titans game will pick No. 20. Picks 21-32 will be determined by the losers of each playoff round with the Super Bowl champion picking No. 32 overall.
TEAM, RECORD
1.
Cardinals (3-13)
2.
49ers (4-12)
3.
Jets (4-12)
4.
Raiders (4-12)
5.
Buccaneers (5-11)
6.
Giants (5-11)
7.
Jaguars (5-11)
8.
Lions (6-10)
9.
Bills (6-10)
10.
Broncos (6-10)
11.
Bengals (6-10)
12.
Packers (6-9-1)
13.
Dolphins (7-9)
14.
Falcons (7-9)
15.
Redskins (7-9)
16.
Panthers (7-9)
17.
Browns (7-8-1)
18.
Vikings (8-7-1)
19.
Steelers (9-6-1)
20.
Loser of Colts-Texans
lol Raiders for only being on that list once and only the #4 pick :lmao
Gruden's fuckery backfired, huh
Will Hunting
12-30-2018, 11:22 PM
Playing to screw over the team's future shouldn't save anyone's job. Sorry but that's media narrative, not reality.
Yeah I agree the outcome of that game shouldn’t impact whether or not Wilks keeps his job, but I think there’s going to be a lot of pressure on teams to not fire black coaches because of affirmative action Rooney rule bullshit, so ya never know if today would have made a difference :lol
Spurtacular
12-30-2018, 11:22 PM
who should they take at #1 honestly? Herbert is staying in school and they believe in Rosen. So I'm assuming they likely trade down for a team builder pack of picks?
I haven't studied it, honestly.
SuperCam
12-30-2018, 11:24 PM
Yeah I agree the outcome of that game shouldn’t impact whether or not Wilks keeps his job, but I think there’s going to be a lot of pressure on teams to not fire black coaches because of affirmative action Rooney rule bullshit, so ya never know if today would have made a difference :lol
any white coach and the media would be talking about how unfair it was to fire a coach after 1 year who inherited a rookie qb and terrible roster
Millennial_Messiah
12-30-2018, 11:26 PM
any white coach and the media would be talking about how unfair it was to fire a coach after 1 year who inherited a rookie qb and terrible roster
Happened to Chip Kelly in SF, so nope. Nobody batted a left eye.
Spurtacular
12-30-2018, 11:27 PM
any white coach and the media would be talking about how unfair it was to fire a coach after 1 year who inherited a rookie qb and terrible roster
Not really. Non-entitled people don't make excuses for having the worst record out of all thirty teams.
Will Hunting
12-30-2018, 11:27 PM
any white coach and the media would be talking about how unfair it was to fire a coach after 1 year who inherited a rookie qb and terrible roster
He’s shown absolutely no potential as a head coach. He’s inarticulate, has made no progress with correcting unforced mistakes, and looks like a deer in the headlights. He’s a spearchucking monkey who’s incapable of doing anything other than shouting African battle cries that get Carolina’s stacked defense excited.
Robz4000
12-30-2018, 11:28 PM
Colts looking scary rolling into the postseason tbh.
SanAntonioSpurs23
12-30-2018, 11:28 PM
Leonard or James for DROY?
Will Hunting
12-30-2018, 11:29 PM
Ooga booga ooga booga Kawan Short you get banana for sacking da QB ooga booga
^That’s pretty much all Steve Wilks is capable of.
Millennial_Messiah
12-30-2018, 11:34 PM
Leonard or James for DROY?
1) Leonard
2) Vander Esch
3) D. James
4) Barkley ... yeah I know they missed the playoffs badly, last in the division etc, but he led the NFL in scrimmage yards as a rookie behind a bad offensive line with a bad quarterback. 2,028 scrimmage yards in 16 games, just ahead of the great Zeke Elliott who had 2,004 scrimmage yards in 15 games.
Robz4000
12-30-2018, 11:34 PM
Leonard or James for DROY?
James
Millennial_Messiah
12-30-2018, 11:36 PM
Not really. Non-entitled people don't make excuses for having the worst record out of all thirty teams.
32
SuperCam
12-30-2018, 11:37 PM
Happened to Chip Kelly in SF, so nope. Nobody batted a left eye.
Kelly was a retread with a poor hc resume already.
Wilks was given a bad roster and shitty jew qb and is being shown the door despite beating Dodgers in GB.
SuperCam
12-30-2018, 11:38 PM
Joseph also being scapgoated to cover up for elway terrible gm decisions including paying another shitty white qb
Will Hunting
12-30-2018, 11:39 PM
Kelly was a retread with a poor hc resume already.
Wilks was given a bad roster and shitty jew qb and is being shown the door despite beating Dodgers in GB.
Wilks himself had input into the roster. He wanted to switch to a 4-3 even though the personnel on defense were a way better fit for a 3-4 and then he brought in shitty Carolina backups like Trey Boston because they “fit his system”, even though his “system” only works when he has a front 7 stacked with pro bowl talent.
HarlemHeat37
12-30-2018, 11:41 PM
Joseph also being scapgoated to cover up for elway terrible gm decisions including paying another shitty white qb
Vance Joseph is a terrible coach, but it's also true that Elway might be the worst GM in the NFL..doesn't really matter if they fire him, Elway will fuck it up anyways.
Will Hunting
12-30-2018, 11:42 PM
There are 3 black coaches who are no brainer firings (spear chuckin’ Steve Wilks, Vance Joseph, Marvin Lewis), and one who I could see going either way (Tomlin).
Millennial_Messiah
12-30-2018, 11:48 PM
Kelly was a retread with a poor hc resume already.
Wilks was given a bad roster and shitty jew qb and is being shown the door despite beating Dodgers in GB.
no other team won 3 games,
but it's still all time ridiculous that shitass hue jackson got 3 chances including his third after a 1-31 start :lol
SuperCam
12-30-2018, 11:48 PM
Wilks himself had input into the roster. He wanted to switch to a 4-3 even though the personnel on defense were a way better fit for a 3-4 and then he brought in shitty Carolina backups like Trey Boston because they “fit his system”, even though his “system” only works when he has a front 7 stacked with pro bowl talent.
Arizona last in league with 13 points a game running out this awful hebe qb and you blame wilks for his defensive scheme :lol
Millennial_Messiah
12-30-2018, 11:49 PM
There are 3 black coaches who are no brainer firings (spear chuckin’ Steve Wilks, Vance Joseph, Marvin Lewis), and one who I could see going either way (Tomlin).
Lewis won't get fired. He has sex tapes of the ownership/management.
Tomlin should if the Steelers want to win, but he won't.
SuperCam
12-30-2018, 11:50 PM
no other team won 3 games,
but it's still all time ridiculous that shitass hue jackson got 3 chances including his third after a 1-31 start :lol
Jeff fisher was allowed to suck 10 years longer than any black coach because of a sb from 20 years ago and being a league yes man :lol
Will Hunting
12-30-2018, 11:53 PM
Arizona last in league with 13 points a game running out this awful hebe qb and you blame wilks for his defensive scheme :lol
So your argument is that even though spear chuckin Steve sucks he should keep his job since the offense sucks even more :lol
The defense is why I say he should be fired. The offense being shitty given the rookie QB / personnel is forgivable, but Wilks is supposed to be some defensive guru and his presence made the defense worse this year. If he’s incapable of doing what he’s supposed to already be good at it’s stupid to keep him around hoping his monkey brain will magically function properly :lol
Millennial_Messiah
12-30-2018, 11:53 PM
Jeff fisher was allowed to suck 10 years longer than any black coach because of a sb from 20 years ago and being a league yes man :lol
yeah, Fisher was godawful, but let's not act like he was replaced by a black young genius HC. McVay is white.
Kris Richard is the best black coach in football by far, and he's not even technically the Cowboys' DC yet.
Will Hunting
12-30-2018, 11:57 PM
yeah, Fisher was godawful, but let's not act like he was replaced by a black young genius HC. McVay is white.
Kris Richard is the best black coach in football by far, and he's not even technically the Cowboys' DC yet.
The best fit for black coaches in the NFL is as defensive coordinator for head coaches with a defensive background (ie Romeo Crennnel for Bill Belichick). That way they don’t have any responsibility involving critical thought, scheme, or play calling, and their role is to simply ooga booga on the sidelines to get their players amped up.
SuperCam
12-31-2018, 12:07 AM
So your argument is that even though spear chuckin Steve sucks he should keep his job since the offense sucks even more :lol
The defense is why I say he should be fired. The offense being shitty given the rookie QB / personnel is forgivable, but Wilks is supposed to be some defensive guru and his presence made the defense worse this year. If he’s incapable of doing what he’s supposed to already be good at it’s stupid to keep him around hoping his monkey brain will magically function properly :lol
Does the spear chucking oogba booga schtick actually get a reaction from anyone on ST the last 5 years? :sleep
No defense will grade out as good when they have to stay on the field so much due to an atrocious offense and turnover machine rookie...
SuperCam
12-31-2018, 12:09 AM
yeah, Fisher was godawful, but let's not act like he was replaced by a black young genius HC. McVay is white.
Kris Richard is the best black coach in football by far, and he's not even technically the Cowboys' DC yet.
Point being he was given 5x more leeway to fail than any black hc because it was ordered down from league headquarters, which has always been a good ol boys white club looking to protect their own. And he's not the only example either...
Will Hunting
12-31-2018, 12:10 AM
Does the spear chucking oogba booga schtick actually get a reaction from anyone on ST the last 5 years? :sleep
No defense will grade out as good when they have to stay on the field so much due to an atrocious offense and turnover machine rookie...
It just got a reaction out of you :lol
The defense being shitty this year goes far beyond the time of possession issue. The scheme doesn’t fit the personnel and it was wildly moronic for him to come in and not have the slightest fucking clue that 4-3 defenses actually require a front 4 that can get pressure without blitzing.
Mark Celibate
12-31-2018, 12:16 AM
Jeff fisher was allowed to suck 10 years longer than any black coach because of a sb from 20 years ago and being a league yes man
Winning a Super Bowl at any point in time gives you a lifetime pass. There's no other explanation on why John Gruden coming back to the Raiders was akin to Michael Jordan coming out of retirement judging by the media coverage.
SuperCam
12-31-2018, 12:19 AM
Winning a Super Bowl at any point in time gives you a lifetime pass. There's no other explanation on why John Gruden coming back to the Raiders was akin to Michael Jordan coming out of retirement judging by the media coverage.
another good example. Gruden only won a sb by riding the scheme and personell already put in place by the black coach he succeeded and never won another playoff game. And was given a blank check after fawning white media sychophants shopped him for jobs for years in a way they never would have for a black ex coach just cause he was corny on tv for a decade...
Spurtacular
12-31-2018, 01:04 AM
For what it's worth; I would let the Cards coach have a second year from a very outside looking in p.o.v. But don't sell me on the idea that he's a victim if he isn't retained.
Spurtacular
12-31-2018, 01:05 AM
another good example. Gruden only won a sb by riding the scheme and personell already put in place by the black coach he succeeded
:lol Always with your black power nonsense.
:lol You never give it a rest.
Chinook
12-31-2018, 02:18 AM
:depressed
Gratz Chinook (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) ... Represent the AFC north well.
Appreciate the sportsmanship. Hoping to bring in another Lombardi for the AFCN.
Millennial_Messiah
12-31-2018, 04:43 AM
It just got a reaction out of you :lol
The defense being shitty this year goes far beyond the time of possession issue. The scheme doesn’t fit the personnel and it was wildly moronic for him to come in and not have the slightest fucking clue that 4-3 defenses actually require a front 4 that can get pressure without blitzing.
Right. That's why I've mostly been very skeptical of the Ravens' much-vaunted "#1" defense all season. It's a blitz happy 3-4. (They saved the game today with blitzing.) A real defense, IMO, is one that gets home with 4. That's the only way Brady has been beaten over the years, particularly in Super Bowls
spurraider21
12-31-2018, 02:56 PM
Jemele Hill racist AF; nobody should be listening to her at this point. Never heard of Bomani Jones, but I can imagine the same is true of him....
:lmao i've never heard of him, but his name sounds black so i can imagine he's a racist too!
spurraider21
12-31-2018, 03:02 PM
another good example. Gruden only won a sb by riding the scheme and personell already put in place by the black coach he succeeded and never won another playoff game. And was given a blank check after fawning white media sychophants shopped him for jobs for years in a way they never would have for a black ex coach just cause he was corny on tv for a decade...
that's such a lazy take, unless you're willing to give him credit for putting together the scheme and personnel that made the superbowl that very year representing the AFC.
so in one year, you had a gruden assembled team and a separate gruden coached team in the SB. thats impressive as fuck
Mark Celibate
12-31-2018, 03:23 PM
another good example. Gruden only won a sb by riding the scheme and personell already put in place by the black coach he succeeded and never won another playoff game. And was given a blank check after fawning white media sychophants shopped him for jobs for years in a way they never would have for a black ex coach just cause he was corny on tv for a decade...
uh, my point had nothing to do with black coaches? All I said was that winning a Super Bowl gives you a lifetime pass. As far as I know, Mike Tomlin is still the coach for the Steelers right? Idk what point you're even trying to make. Are you trying to say that Tony Dungy was treated unfairly? You think there weren't white coaches as well that were fired for not being able to win in the playoffs?
Spurtacular
12-31-2018, 06:44 PM
:lmao i've never heard of him, but his name sounds black so i can imagine he's a racist too!
I can imagine it because the prevalence of such black power entities being propped up by corporate America. I know you really wanted that one though, didn't you?
:lol Chump Lite bringin' the sh** into NFL forum.
spurraider21
12-31-2018, 07:04 PM
Colts core has nothing on Vikes core. This has nothing to do with the media. They pulled Kirk Cousins to a winning season; but the team needs a real starter; Luck would fit that bill.
colts are gonna be scary.
- luck is under contract through 2021 with manageable cap hits of 27.5, 28.4, and 21 during that stretch
- they have the most cap space in the NFL with very little in the way of key free agents they need to retain. over 122 mil in space
- they have one of the league's better OL's
- they also are getting an extra 2nd round pick this year from the jets (#35 overall pick) as part of their trade-down last season
Spurtacular
12-31-2018, 07:21 PM
colts are gonna be scary.
- luck is under contract through 2021 with manageable cap hits of 27.5, 28.4, and 21 during that stretch
- they have the most cap space in the NFL with very little in the way of key free agents they need to retain. over 122 mil in space
- they have one of the league's better OL's
- they also are getting an extra 2nd round pick this year from the jets (#35 overall pick) as part of their trade-down last season
Yea, they are trending in the right direction; youth and an experienced QB; I could see them reaching the SB within a couple years.
spurraider21
12-31-2018, 07:32 PM
a lot of people like them signing leveon bell, but they already have mack/hines on cost-controlled deals and they've been fairly productive this year. this is an offseason with quite a few big name pass-rushers likely to be available in free agency. demarcus lawrence, trey flowers, clowney, frank clark, brandon graham. they can also swing for the fences and hope Suh can be a difference maker.
it's hard to really find an issue with this team right now. their defense is playing well, their OL is stacked, QB plays at an mvp level, and they're mostly young. they got off to a rocky start due to luck's rust and an absurd amount of injuries to their offense. otherwise they'd have coasted to a division win and likely a first round bye.
Will Hunting
12-31-2018, 07:50 PM
a lot of people like them signing leveon bell, but they already have mack/hines on cost-controlled deals and they've been fairly productive this year. this is an offseason with quite a few big name pass-rushers likely to be available in free agency. demarcus lawrence, trey flowers, clowney, frank clark, brandon graham. they can also swing for the fences and hope Suh can be a difference maker.
it's hard to really find an issue with this team right now. their defense is playing well, their OL is stacked, QB plays at an mvp level, and they're mostly young. they got off to a rocky start due to luck's rust and an absurd amount of injuries to their offense. otherwise they'd have coasted to a division win and likely a first round bye.
Yeah they’d be retarded to break the bank for Bell. Sign one of the elite pass rushers and continue to build through the draft but keep enough cap room to be able to sign your young players as their contract expire.
Millennial_Messiah
01-01-2019, 02:28 PM
Yeah they’d be retarded to break the bank for Bell. Sign one of the elite pass rushers and continue to build through the draft but keep enough cap room to be able to sign your young players as their contract expire.
Agree 100%. If they could somehow pry away Clowney from the Texans that'd be a double steal, but I think he gets franchised. I think Lawrence gets re-signed long term and Frank Clark also gets franchised. Brandon Graham will be let go because the Eagles are in cap hell and still don't have a QB under contract long term. But Graham is probably too old. Guys like Suh and Ngata are definitely too old. Trey Flowers might be their best bet, Patriots won't keep him and he's young enough. And the Colts should look to draft the best pass rusher they possibly can
Will Hunting
01-01-2019, 03:17 PM
Agree 100%. If they could somehow pry away Clowney from the Texans that'd be a double steal, but I think he gets franchised. I think Lawrence gets re-signed long term and Frank Clark also gets franchised. Brandon Graham will be let go because the Eagles are in cap hell and still don't have a QB under contract long term. But Graham is probably too old. Guys like Suh and Ngata are definitely too old. Trey Flowers might be their best bet, Patriots won't keep him and he's young enough. And the Colts should look to draft the best pass rusher they possibly can
Trey Flowers has “above average player who gets overpaid for being on the Patriots” written all over him, I wouldn’t touch him.
Its a pretty crappy year to sign free agents which is largely why teams like the Colts need to be careful. There aren’t very many great ones while there are tons of teams with loads of cap room. Leveon Bell knew what he was doing when he held out to be a free agent this year.
Millennial_Messiah
01-01-2019, 03:33 PM
Trey Flowers has “above average player who gets overpaid for being on the Patriots” written all over him, I wouldn’t touch him.
Its a pretty crappy year to sign free agents which is largely why teams like the Colts need to be careful. There aren’t very many great ones while there are tons of teams with loads of cap room. Leveon Bell knew what he was doing when he held out to be a free agent this year.
Agree about Flowers, he's overrated. Patriots lack of a front 7 is why they'll lose in Arrowhead this year after giving another good run.
Still, not sure Bell ever makes up the $17 Million he lost this year. He'd have to make about $18 million more guaranteed (5m/year guaranteed assuming a 4-year deal) than the offer he rejected with the Steelers this past spring.
Will Hunting
01-01-2019, 03:53 PM
Agree about Flowers, he's overrated. Patriots lack of a front 7 is why they'll lose in Arrowhead this year after giving another good run.
Still, not sure Bell ever makes up the $17 Million he lost this year. He'd have to make about $18 million more guaranteed (5m/year guaranteed assuming a 4-year deal) than the offer he rejected with the Steelers this past spring.
I think some shitty team like the Jets blows its wad on Bell because of media/fan pressure and he ends up doing just fine.
Even if that doesn’t happen, I still don’t believe you turn down that much guaranteed money unless you have an under the table agreement for a long term deal with another team in 2019.
Millennial_Messiah
01-01-2019, 04:37 PM
Even if that doesn’t happen, I still don’t believe you turn down that much guaranteed money unless you have an under the table agreement for a long term deal with another team in 2019.
:lol He could probably go to jail for that? Wouldn't put it past him, though
Will Hunting
01-01-2019, 04:48 PM
:lol He could probably go to jail for that? Wouldn't put it past him, though
:lol no, he couldn’t go to jail for that, but the contract could be voided and he could get a lifetime suspension + breach of contract lawsuit. There wouldn’t be any criminal liability.
Millennial_Messiah
01-03-2019, 12:00 AM
:lol no, he couldn’t go to jail for that, but the contract could be voided and he could get a lifetime suspension + breach of contract lawsuit. There wouldn’t be any criminal liability.
:lol Pro athletes are so fucking pampered and insulated. Almost any other career, there would be criminal/fraud implications
Will Hunting
01-03-2019, 06:48 AM
:lol Pro athletes are so fucking pampered and insulated. Almost any other career, there would be criminal/fraud implications
No there wouldn’t be, it’s not like fraud laws are different for athletes. All he’d be doing is breaching a contract and the collective bargaining agreement which doesn’t carry and criminal liability.
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