Pop's out of timeout plays..

[TheGreatYacht]

Where does Pop rank league wide when he draws up a play on the clipboard? I'd say bottom 3, tbh..

:lol having the best 3pt shooter in the league on the bench when down 3, and then having him inbound with 0.7 seconds left.

[Chinook]

Pop really messed up the end of that game, but then again, it shouldn't have gotten that far.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

his strength is the big picture ... the smaller the time window the weaker he is. conceptualizing a winning philosophy for a small-market franchise, yes. player evaluation, recruiting and improvement, yes. adjusting strategy to suit a team's particular makeup, yes. gameplanning for a particular playoff opponent, yep. making adjustment between games in series, yep. making adjustments at halftime, sometimes ok. making adjustments within a game, mmm.

drawing up single plays ... nah not his bag baby.

[Mugen]

Easily one of the worst. If the Spurs are down 3, you can pretty much book it that he's going to sit his best 3 point shooters in that situation.

I think there was one time Pop had 3 centers in during a similar spot so they can set screens. :lol

Honestly, dont even fucking call a play, just give it to dumbass Bryn and let him shoot off the dribble, it's going to be better than any garbage that the old man will draw up....

[Mugen]

his strength is the big picture ... the smaller the time window the weaker he is. conceptualizing a winning philosophy for a small-market franchise, yes. player evaluation, recruiting and improvement, yes. adjusting strategy to suit a team's particular makeup, yes. gameplanning for a particular playoff opponent, yep. making adjustment between games in series, yep. making adjustments at halftime, sometimes ok. making adjustments within a game, mmm.

drawing up single plays ... nah not his bag baby.

:lol You don't have to be a fucking genius to put your best 3 point shooters in the game when you need a 3 to tie it.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Why the fuck wasn't bertans out there? :lol

[timtonymanu]

I’m always expecting them to either turn it over or not even get a good shot off. 99% of the time it’s the case.

[Robz4000]

his strength is the big picture ... the smaller the time window the weaker he is. conceptualizing a winning philosophy for a small-market franchise, yes. player evaluation, recruiting and improvement, yes. adjusting strategy to suit a team's particular makeup, yes. gameplanning for a particular playoff opponent, yep. making adjustment between games in series, yep. making adjustments at halftime, sometimes ok. making adjustments within a game, mmm.

drawing up single plays ... nah not his bag baby.

Pop is terrible at playoff and any sort of in-game adjustments tbh.

[justinandimcool]

pretty clear to anyone with eyes that Udoka drew up the play

Pop giving Udoka a "teaching moment" in a crucial road game, that is terrible tbh

[Arcadian]

Bertans was making the inbounds pass with 0.7s on the clock, so the one guy who can shoot over anyone would have no chance to shoot :lol

[Mugen]

pretty clear to anyone with eyes that Udoka drew up the play

Pop giving Udoka a "teaching moment" in a crucial road game, that is terrible tbh

:lol Give him a fucking play call in the 2nd quarter then...but seriously that was a Pop out of bounds play to the tee....I'm surprised he didn't take Bryn out and put in Quincy because he's a good screensetter. Straight garbage out of timeouts.

[SAGirl]

It would be nice to get a video compilation

[Spurs Homer]

Where does Pop rank league wide when he draws up a play on the clipboard? I'd say bottom 3, tbh..

:lol having the best 3pt shooter in the league on the bench when down 3, and then having him inbound with 0.7 seconds left.

How'd your team do tonight against Orlando?

[Kobe'sAchilles]

You mean having the best 3 point shooter in the world (statistically) be the inbounder is a bad play call? Or was it us throwing a lob pass to the shortest person on our team not named Mills? Tbh Pop used to have amazing out of bounds plays, but now he sucks. I can't really think of an all-time coach though who is amazing at them. Jackson basically gave the ball to Michael and Kobe and said go win it.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I’m always expecting them to either turn it over or not even get a good shot off. 99% of the time it’s the case.

Seriously.

Hell, even if they even get a shot off it almost feels like a moral victory.

[Mugen]

7 seconds and Pop couldn't even draw up a fucking shot attempt :lol

[offset formation]

How'd your team do tonight against Orlando?

Is a 29 point loss to Orlando bad? Haven't you noticed he's a bit more salty than usual?

[DMC]

Where does Pop rank league wide when he draws up a play on the clipboard? I'd say bottom 3, tbh..

:lol having the best 3pt shooter in the league on the bench when down 3, and then having him inbound with 0.7 seconds left.

More than half the teams don't even run plays out of timeout. They just inbound the ball. That eliminates 15 coaches right away. Those who do run plays out of timeout often have a superstar to go to. We don't have Manu or Tony now, and Pop has always been a great "out of timeout" play guy. The highlight reels are full of those kinds of plays that won games for us, big games in fact. So I'd say Pop ranks near the top all time, and this one game isn't the deciding factor regardless how faggot neophyte trolls like you want to pretend it is.

[paperboy77]

+1, then after a few it would suck!

[Millennial_Messiah]

glad the Nuggets won, fight proxy wars against the gay bay faggots tbh.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Didn't Becky draw up that play with 7 seconds left?

Forbes would have had a decent shot if DeRozan would have actually gotten him the ball.

[Fireball]

having only Forbes as a 3 point specialist with 7 seconds to go ... that was a mistake ... Bertans was not on the bench for the final play so once again OP shows he has nothing of value brought to the table

[monty4329]

pretty clear to anyone with eyes that Udoka drew up the play

Pop giving Udoka a "teaching moment" in a crucial road game, that is terrible tbh

And BTW Messina made a career with creative last-shot plays...

Still, hard to make a three with Bertans, Beli, (Mills) benched.

[RC_Drunkford]

I thought the line up should've been Forbes/Mills/Belinelli/Bertans/Aldridge so you have 5 players out there who can shoot the 3 and just hope they make one

[ceperez]

Pop very rarely changes the lineup for a single play, even if its the last play of the game.

Bertans went in the game for last play but he was the inbounder with 0.7 seconds. Pop should have loaded the floor with tall 3 point shooters... Bertans, Gay, Aldridge .... sucks.

[EasyMoney]

I actually heard Becky hammon drew up the last play...

Not much you can do with 0.7 seconds. Just food instinct by plum Plumlee to ruin bryn forbes 3 attempt by kicking the ball

But I do think bryn should have heaved it instead of bringing it down, there was absolutely no time to even land

[John B]

7 seconds and Pop couldn't even draw up a fucking shot attempt :lol
Down 3, a mid-range shooter DeRozan to make a baseline pass to obvious 3pt shooter. No wonder it got telegraphed.

[RC_Drunkford]

the problem was everybody knew Forbes would get the ball, including Denver. Gay was cold all night and DeRozan and White can't really shoot 3s like that. You know having Bertans and Belinelli out there instead might've confused the defense to create a more open shot

[John B]

the problem was everybody knew Forbes would get the ball, including Denver. Gay was cold all night and DeRozan and White can't really shoot 3s like that. You know having Bertans and Belinelli out there instead might've confused the defense to create a more open shot
Even better if given to Belli, taller and could’ve gotten a foul shooting 3, like Manu used to do

[RC_Drunkford]

Also for the 0.7 it would've probably been smarter to have LaMarcus inbound, Poeltl set the screen and either Bertans (size) or preferably Belinelli shoot the 3. They much harder to block and Beli loves to shoot off balance anyway.
You can't expect those type of plays from the coach who subs in Patty Mills to get a defensive stop in crunch time though.

[8FOR!3]

I was hoping we were going to try that Hedo Turkoglu inbound pass where they immediately passed it right back to him for the game winner. Figured it might work well with Bertans, but blah.

[dbestpro]

I would love if just one reporter in the post game would call Pop out for how he handled the final minutes, and then give him the Acosta to Trump treatment when he becomes belligerent.

[TimDunkem]

You mean having the best 3 point shooter in the world (statistically) be the inbounder is a bad play call? Or was it us throwing a lob pass to the shortest person on our team not named Mills? Tbh Pop used to have amazing out of bounds plays, but now he sucks. I can't really think of an all-time coach though who is amazing at them. Jackson basically gave the ball to Michael and Kobe and said go win it.

It's his ego. He thinks he can transform the Forbes and Cunninghams of the world into legit players.

[rogcl1]

I was hoping we were going to try that Hedo Turkoglu inbound pass where they immediately passed it right back to him for the game winner. Figured it might work well with Bertans, but blah.

With seven tenths of a second?

[rogcl1]

Also for the 0.7 it would've probably been smarter to have LaMarcus inbound, Poeltl set the screen and either Bertans (size) or preferably Belinelli shoot the 3. They much harder to block and Beli loves to shoot off balance anyway.
You can't expect those type of plays from the coach who subs in Patty Mills to get a defensive stop in crunch time though.

Agree with the thought but maybe Gay inbounding as his release I believe is a bit slower with limited time to shoot. Its not just the play call, but reacting to how the defense plays the play. There should be as many 3 pt. shooters as possible out there so defense can't slack off of one.Screeners that pop off of the screen become targets as defense reacts so I agree have all the shooters, especially tall shooters, and even Aldridge out there in situations like that. And then play basketball, not just the play.

[TheGreatYacht]

having only Forbes as a 3 point specialist with 7 seconds to go ... that was a mistake ... Bertans was not on the bench for the final play so once again OP shows he has nothing of value brought to the table
Bertans was on the bench when we were down 3, you fucking austist. Then he got subbed in to inbound with .7 of a second left. Reading is hard ain't it?

[TimmyBuckets]

Vintage OP, lol

Regardless,

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/12/29/18160316/league-ready-san-antonio-spurs-hammer-play

[TheGreatYacht]

It's starting to get comically bad :lol might be the worst out of timeout coach of all time. Yikes

[RodNIc91]

Damn… took their last two TO and still couldn’t get the ball inbounded

[ThomasamohT]

pop pooped another one.

[GAustex]

And Pop was all smiles as jiggled Brett’s balls after time expired

[SouthTexasRancher]

Pop is pretty much out of everything. Younger coaches are making him look bad.

[MultiTroll]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ec0EMxsXG80/maxresdefault.jpg

[mkurts]

What strategy? No Duncan or Ginobili to bail him out.

he’s no Phil Jackson.

Tactical awareness is Pop’s weak point, he can’t adjust properly when his usual plan fails.

[RD2191]

Shit was embarrassing. Looking like a washed up piece of shit out there tbh. Sad. It's time for him to retire.

[monty4329]

In honesty, LA screen was totally out of sync, wrong angle and about 4 feet off. After that there was no chance to inbound.

[TheGreatYacht]

Rudy giving our 70yr old a late birthday present with an ISO game winner. No one is a bigger fan of late game meltdowns than Pop. You just know shit is about to hit the ceiling when he has a clipboard smh...

[DAF86]

I was afraid that play was coming after the TO. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that playing 4 on 5 isn't that good of a strategy, tbh.

[GAustex]

I could not tell if Marco got mugged or they took it without fouling

[timtonymanu]

Instant turnover after that timeout LOL

[HarlemHeat37]

I could not tell if Marco got mugged or they took it without fouling

He tried to flop like he does on every play, they didn't call it..

[DAF86]

Posted it on another thread but I guess we're discussing it here.


Can somebody kindly explain to Pop that when he puts a player on the backcourt but the ball gets inbounded into the frontcourt you will easily get doubled and playing 4 on 5 because the guy on the backcourt can't receive a pass? Will be much appreciated, thank you.

[rogcl1]

He is losing his marbles, right? Many Sr's do strange shit they NEVER did when the Grey Matter Decays

And others never had any working gray matter at any point in their lives.

[John B]

Posted it on another thread but I guess we're discussing it here.
twice I’ve seen that and both created turnovers tbh

[timvp]

Spurs fans come up with strange complaints sometimes, tbh. Spurs get the ball into their best free throw shooter when the other team needs to foul and that is somehow considered bad coaching, ha.


Can somebody kindly explain to Pop that when he puts a player on the backcourt but the ball gets inbounded into the frontcourt you will easily get doubled and playing 4 on 5 because the guy on the backcourt can't receive a pass? Will be much appreciated, thank you.

1. The guy in the backcourt can receive the pass. That's allowed.

2. The Suns had someone defending Bertans in the backcourt so it wasn't 4-on-5.

3. Every team does it that way now because it's easier inbounding 4-on-4 compared to 5-on-5.



The only problem with that play tonight was Belinelli made the mistake of turning his back on the action and trapped himself between the halfcourt line and two defenders. He had Gay and Aldridge wide open if he just stood there and didn't panic.

[DAF86]

1. The guy in the backcourt can receive the pass. That's allowed.

It is allowed if you inbound the ball directly to the guy on the backcourt, it isn't allowed once the ball gets inbounded first to the frontcourt, which is what I said.


2. The Suns had someone defending Bertans in the backcourt so it wasn't 4-on-5.

Yeah, and against OKC George was guarding White on the backcourt but then he came quickly to double team knowing that White was a no threat to receive a pass from Belinelli. Same shit that happened tonight.


3. Every team does it that way now because it's easier inbounding 4-on-4 compared to 5-on-5.

It is a dumb play that will probably die out with time.


The only problem with that play tonight was Belinelli made the mistake of turning his back on the action and trapped himself between the halfcourt line and two defenders. He had Gay and Aldridge wide open if he just stood there and didn't panic.

It is difficult to not panic when you are being double teamed and you have the midcourt line and the out of bounds as extra defenders. It's just a dumb play. There are plenty others that are way more effective. No reason to keep falling for the same self-inflicted trap.

[timvp]

It is allowed if you inbound the ball directly to the guy on the backcourt, it isn't allowed once the ball gets inbounded first to the frontcourt, which is what I said.If Belinelli doesn't tumble, flop and turn his back to the play, he also would have had Bertans wide open too running in from the backcourt to make it a 5-on-4 advantage. Blame is on Belinelli, tbh.

That's twice now so it's probably time to stop trusting him in those situations even though he's the team's best free throw shooter.


Yeah, and against OKC George was guarding White on the backcourt but then he came quickly to double team knowing that White was a no threat to receive a pass from Belinelli. Same shit that happened tonight.Not the same because the double didn't come from the backcourt.


It is a dumb play that will probably die out with time.Disagree. It opens the court up while creating more space and less chaos.


It is difficult to not panic when you are being double teamed and you have the midcourt line and the out of bounds as extra defenders. It's just a dumb play. There are plenty others that are way more effective. No reason to keep falling for the same self-inflicted trap.Belinelli just had to stand there for an extra second and he would have had his pick of three open players. The problem was he tried to flop for the foul and turned his back on the action while doing so.

[duncan2k5]

It's a bad play... The greatest coach in the game shouldn't be making that mistake multiple times... He gets so stubborn sometimes to prove that he is right.... I guarantee if we end up in that situation again, he will do the same thing until it works and he is vindicated

[DAF86]

If Belinelli doesn't tumble, flop and turn his back to the play, he also would have had Bertans wide open too running in from the backcourt to make it a 5-on-4 advantage. Blame is on Belinelli, tbh.

By the time Bertans got past midcourt, Belinelli was already fucked.


That's twice now so it's probably time to stop trusting him in those situations even though he's the team's best free throw shooter.

Yeah, I remember the Spurs doing this play with Manu and Manu not fucking up, still, there are other less risky plays to run, tbh.


Not the same because the double didn't come from the backcourt.

You are right, but that's just another proof of how many things can go wrong with that play.


Disagree. It opens the court up while creating more space and less chaos.

It's a riskier play than other out of bounds plays.

-You can get double from the guy in the backcourt before your teammate makes it to the frontcourt.
-You can get double from the guy guarding the inbound without having an angle to pass it back to the inbounder.
-And the midcourt line and the out of bounds lines work as extra defenders.

Like I said, there are other less risky plays to run.

[TheGreatYacht]

He's actually the worst in the league. Never in history have I seen such god awful late game coaching. Cost Tim a ring back in 2013

[J_Paco]

He's actually the worst in the league. Never in history have I seen such god awful late game coaching. Cost Tim a ring back in 2013

Too much stupidity in your posts, man.

You have literally zero empirical data to back up your baseless, uninformed claim.

Secondly, missed free throws by Ginobili, Kawhi & Manu trying to flop instead of fighting for a rebound cost them in '13.

Terrible execution by the players, in particular Patty & Jakob on defense, cost the team this winnable game.

[J_Paco]

He's actually the worst in the league. Never in history have I seen such god awful late game coaching. Cost Tim a ring back in 2013

Too much stupidity in your posts, man.

You have literally zero empirical data to back up your baseless, uninformed claim.

Secondly, missed free throws by Ginobili, Kawhi & Manu trying to flop instead of fighting for a rebound cost them in '13.

Terrible execution by the players, in particular Patty & Jakob on defense, cost the team this winnable game.

[TheGreatYacht]

Too much stupidity in your posts, man.

You have literally zero empirical data to back up your baseless, uninformed claim.

Secondly, missed free throws by Ginobili, Kawhi & Manu trying to flop instead of fighting for a rebound cost them in '13.

Terrible execution by the players, in particular Patty & Jakob on defense, cost the team this winnable game.
Stfu you vanilla faggot. Guess Tim sat himself on the bench to allow Bosh an easy rebound. SMD Popsucker

[Mugen]

Of course JPaco comes in on his burro to defend the old man :lol

[RD2191]

He's actually the worst in the league. Never in history have I seen such god awful late game coaching. Cost Tim a ring back in 2013
Truth nuke. ST faggots can't handle the truth.

[murpjf88]

It's a combination of poor coaching and low IQ basketball players that can't execute. He's just an average head coach but his players make him out to be worse than he is.

[MultiTroll]

How many victories will Grandpa give away this year?

[lefty]

Stfu you vanilla faggot. Guess Tim sat himself on the bench to allow Bosh an easy rebound. SMD Popsucker

:lol

[KobesAchilles]

Stfu you vanilla faggot. Guess Tim sat himself on the bench to allow Bosh an easy rebound. SMD Popsucker
With the nuke :wow