Black Monday Thread

[Will Hunting]

So far this season:

Mike McCarthy
Hue Jackson
Todd Bowles
Dirk Koetter
Vance Joseph
Adam Gase
Marvin Lewis
Steve Wilks

[Will Hunting]

Adam Gase now.

Its not official yet but rumor is that Marvin Lewis and Steve Wilks have already told their coaching staffs that they’re done.

This might end up being one of the worst black Mondays ever.

EDIT: Nevermind, Marvin Lewis is official.

[SuperCam]

https://twitter.com/mikefreemanNFL/status/1079756733885620224

gotta make more room for unaccomplished white retreads, smh

[Pelicans78]

Adam Gase now.

Its not official yet but rumor is that Marvin Lewis and Steve Wilks have already told their coaching staffs that they’re done.

This might end up being one of the worst black Mondays ever.

EDIT: Nevermind, Marvin Lewis is official.

It really puts the black in black Monday

[Will Hunting]

https://twitter.com/mikefreemanNFL/status/1079756733885620224

gotta make more room for unaccomplished white retreads, smh
:lol what exactly have any of the coaches mentioned in that tweet accomplished?

[SuperCam]

https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/status/1079743689633816576

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1079489566623567872

that irish fat fuck will get a 3rd HC chance before Wilks gets another shot smh

[Will Hunting]

:lol Rex Ryan made the AFCCG his first two seasons as a head coach in spite of having butt fumble at quarterback. Unlike Wilks, his defensive scheme actually requires good coaching and being able to dial up blitzes at the right time and consisted of more than being able to drop 7 into coverage because your front 4 grand pressure on its own.

[SuperCam]

https://twitter.com/JimTrotter_NFL/status/1079772886427086848

[benefactor]

:cry muh diversity :cry

Boiled down, they suck or are too mediocre to take their teams anywhere.

[spurraider21]

You think Hue, Marvin Lewis, Vance Joseph, and Todd Bowles shoulda kept their jobs? :lmao

Wilkes May have been premature but that was a train wreck. Ruined his best players on both sides of the ball.

[Millennial_Messiah]

You think Hue, Marvin Lewis, Vance Joseph, and Todd Bowles shoulda kept their jobs? :lmao

Wilkes May have been premature but that was a train wreck. Ruined his best players on both sides of the ball.

I agree. I'm all for equal opportunity 100%, and would definitely endorse Kris Richard over Jason Garrett for the Cowboys. That said, raw affirmative action is downright bogus, anti-merit, and anti-American, and should go the way of the dodo along with "diversity" and "need based" scholarships... Merit based is the only fair way.

Good to see Marvin Lewis finally got the axe, didn't believe I would live to see the day.

[Will Hunting]

The better argument would be that a lot of these GMs get way too much rope, but that happens with both black and white coaches, the owners get way too caught up in having a personal relationship with the GMs and keep them around too long as a result. John Elway has been a shitty GM and largely lucked out in getting Peyton as a free agent. He shouldn’t get to keep his job if Vance Joseph doesn’t. The Jets GM shouldn’t get to scapegoat Bowles when it’s not Bowles fault the Jets front office thought Christian Hackenberg was a future franchise QB, but that doesn’t change the fact Bowles hasn’t done anything to deserve another year.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The better argument would be that a lot of these GMs get way too much rope, but that happens with both black and white coaches, the owners get way too caught up in having a personal relationship with the GMs and keep them around too long as a result. John Elway has been a shitty GM and largely lucked out in getting Peyton as a free agent. He shouldn’t get to keep his job if Vance Joseph doesn’t. The Jets GM shouldn’t get to scapegoat Bowles when it’s not Bowles fault the Jets front office thought Christian Hackenberg was a future franchise QB, but that doesn’t change the fact Bowles hasn’t done anything to deserve another year.

The difference with Elway is that he's a Broncos hero and legend. The fans and city would be pretty pissed off if they downright kicked him off the team. Maybe "promote him to front office" and let another guy be the main decision maker? Idk. But that's a really tough one.

[spurraider21]

The better argument would be that a lot of these GMs get way too much rope, but that happens with both black and white coaches, the owners get way too caught up in having a personal relationship with the GMs and keep them around too long as a result. John Elway has been a shitty GM and largely lucked out in getting Peyton as a free agent. He shouldn’t get to keep his job if Vance Joseph doesn’t. The Jets GM shouldn’t get to scapegoat Bowles when it’s not Bowles fault the Jets front office thought Christian Hackenberg was a future franchise QB, but that doesn’t change the fact Bowles hasn’t done anything to deserve another year.
yeah the typical rule of thumb i've seen is that head coaches get to have 2 shots with coordinators, GM's head 2 shots with head coaches

[DarrinS]

Bowles deserved the axe, tbh

[spurraider21]

how to get darrin to post here for the first time all season? fire a black coach

[DarrinS]

how to get darrin to post here for the first time all season? fire a black coach

Last three seasons

5-11
5-11
4-12

[spurraider21]

Last three seasons

5-11
5-11
4-12
he definitely deserved to get canned.

i'm laughing since that's the news that got your attention enough to get you to post here.

[Will Hunting]

Bowles deserved the axe, tbh
I don’t disagree but their GM deserves to go too.

[DarrinS]

he definitely deserved to get canned.

i'm laughing since that's the news that got your attention enough to get you to post here.


I'm laughing that you think I care about the skin color of a coach.

Same record as Chucky, btw. :lmao

[DarrinS]

I don’t disagree but their GM deserves to go too.

Yeah - not a very good track record

https://www.nj.com/expo/sports/erry-2018/12/d3d9f4cfd86697/updated-rankings-of-jets-mike.html

[Will Hunting]

yeah the typical rule of thumb i've seen is that head coaches get to have 2 shots with coordinators, GM's head 2 shots with head coaches
But it doesn’t make sense that GMs get more time than coaches. After 3-4 seasons, a GM has had enough time to put several solid draft classes together regardless of how bad the team was at the time the GM took over. If a team is still as talent barren as the Jets/Cardinals are after 4+ seasons with the same GM it means the GM needs to go.

[spurraider21]

But it doesn’t make sense that GMs get more time than coaches. After 3-4 seasons, a GM has had enough time to put several solid draft classes together regardless of how bad the team was at the time the GM took over. If a team is still as talent barren as the Jets/Cardinals are after 4+ seasons with the same GM it means the GM needs to go.
yeah im not sayin that's how it should be. but that's usually how it is. GM's get more slack

[SpursforSix]

It's not nearly black enough if I don't see Jason Garrett on the list.

[spurraider21]

It's not nearly black enough if I don't see Jason Garrett on the list.
Bend over, I'll show you something not nearly black enough.

[SpursforSix]

Bend over, I'll show you something not nearly black enough.

:lol

[SuperCam]

https://twitter.com/JReidESPN/status/1079833379229614082

https://twitter.com/EdgeofSports/status/1079771257283973124

[spurraider21]

how long was marvin lewis' egg timer?

but seriously, i think timing was right for firing lewis. i was a proponent of his for the last couple of seasons, but i think now its beyond clear that his time had come

[SuperCam]

https://twitter.com/MasterTes/status/1079767171532840965

https://twitter.com/ByMikeJones/status/1079809428466089984


rex ryan is about to get a third HC job :lmao

[spurraider21]

gase overachieved tbh, though his use of kenyan drake/frank gore this past season was puzzling. there's no doubt he should land on his feet. i dont think a green bay reunion is out of the question, though i also think he should get a look in cleveland.

he was dealt the ryan tannehill hand, a below average qb who plays just well enough to convince the team it's not worth restarting at the position, and it's not like he had loaded defenses to make up for it. plus dealt with jay cutler as the interim qb :lol. also had quite poor surrounding casts on offense. only legit talent he had was jarvis landry, but he was a checkdown machine. the FO blew a first round pick on devante parker and their cap space load on julius thomas

[spurraider21]

the biggest joke is the rumor that Hue Jackson is in line to take over for cincinnati.

i was a big Hue fan. was disappointed with how his oakland tenure ended, and i had high hopes for him in cleveland. i even vouched for him here coming off the 1-31 start :lol. but he has no business being a HC in the NFL right now. that's a complete joke.

supercum whining about minority coaches not getting a fair shake while constantly demanding the panthers fire rivera. and if they did, is supercum gonna be thrilled if they hired some fuck like wilkes or vance joseph? :lmao

[Spurtacular]

It really puts the black in black Monday

:lol

(I should be careful though; Chump Lite gonna come around telling me how racist I am for laughing at that)

[CitizenDwayne]

Message to black coaches: if you don’t wanna get fired, stop sucking. Lewis had a job for 16 years despite being the poster boy for mediocrity; racism is not the issue here

[TheCultOfPersonality]

I personally don't give a shit about how black coaches are in the NFL whether be 2, 32, or even zero. This isn't anything that I'm losing sleep over.

[spurraider21]

Broncos hired Vic Fangio as head coach and Gary Kubiak is coming back to the sidelines to run their offense. i like fangio a lot, and having a former head coach be is o-coordinator makes a lot of sense, as this is Fangio's first HC job and Kubiak can help him out. but i didnt see the need here. we know fangio is a great defensive coordinator, but is he really going to improve the broncos D substantially? or is he that much better of a lead decision maker than vance joseph? (no experience on that front). i think fangio should have gone somewhere with a good offense in place but needed a defensive overhaul. green bay would have been a nice fit imo.

Browns promoted Freddie Kitchens to head coach and let Gregg Williams go. kitchens had never even been a coordinator before midway last season, so this feels rushed. but they are rightfully prioritizing mayfield's development, and they obviously have good rapport.

Todd Bowles mulling between coordinating the Bears D or Bucs D. if he wants to rehab his image and get a head coaching gig, just go to chicago, where the defense is guaranteed to be good anyway. would be the same move del rio made, when he took over as d-coordinator for the stacked broncos after getting canned by the jaguars. he'd also have total autonomy with nagy being the offensive minded head coach there. why voluntarily go to the dysfunctional bucs with less talent?

[Blake]

gotta make more room for unaccomplished white retreads, smh

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/aF4tHUsgt69ubzlyWsQTGwKGucs=/0x0:3215x2144/1200x800/filters:focal(1376x286:1890x800)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/62810982/933277116.jpg.0.jpg

[Will Hunting]

Broncos hired Vic Fangio as head coach and Gary Kubiak is coming back to the sidelines to run their offense. i like fangio a lot, and having a former head coach be is o-coordinator makes a lot of sense, as this is Fangio's first HC job and Kubiak can help him out. but i didnt see the need here. we know fangio is a great defensive coordinator, but is he really going to improve the broncos D substantially? or is he that much better of a lead decision maker than vance joseph? (no experience on that front). i think fangio should have gone somewhere with a good offense in place but needed a defensive overhaul. green bay would have been a nice fit imo.

Browns promoted Freddie Kitchens to head coach and let Gregg Williams go. kitchens had never even been a coordinator before midway last season, so this feels rushed. but they are rightfully prioritizing mayfield's development, and they obviously have good rapport.

Todd Bowles mulling between coordinating the Bears D or Bucs D. if he wants to rehab his image and get a head coaching gig, just go to chicago, where the defense is guaranteed to be good anyway. would be the same move del rio made, when he took over as d-coordinator for the stacked broncos after getting canned by the jaguars. he'd also have total autonomy with nagy being the offensive minded head coach there. why voluntarily go to the dysfunctional bucs with less talent?
I really don’t like the Fangio/Kubiak dynamic because Fangio is going to be looking over his shoulder at the guy who won a super bowl in Denver and has a great relationship with the GM.

My guess is that Bowles took the Tampa job because he’ll have more freedom and authority to run his defense than he would have had in Chicago, that’s effectively what he was allowed to do in AZ with Arians.

[Mark Celibate]

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/aF4tHUsgt69ubzlyWsQTGwKGucs=/0x0:3215x2144/1200x800/filters:focal(1376x286:1890x800)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/62810982/933277116.jpg.0.jpg

:lmao :lmao :lmao