Game Thread: Spurs vs Raptors — Thurs. (01/03) - 7:00/C (3:00am Riga Time)

[MoSpur02]

L O fucking L. I went to ESPN to see their front page coverage of the game, but they had women's basketball instead. C'mon man!

I noticed that to. If the Raptors had blown out the Spurs and Kawhi would've had the triple double the it would be all over their webpage

[FkLA]

If Murray's handling develops into Gary Payton and White's CJ McCollum trajectory remains consistent, and this is the key here, if White's performance holds in the postseason, which I think it will, play them as 1 & 2.

lol at the CJ McCollum comparison

[skin27]

If Murray's handling develops into Gary Payton and White's CJ McCollum trajectory remains consistent, and this is the key here, if White's performance holds in the postseason, which I think it will, play them as 1 & 2.


then how about demar?

[picnroll]

If Murray's handling develops into Gary Payton and White's CJ McCollum trajectory remains consistent, and this is the key here, if White's performance holds in the postseason, which I think it will, play them as 1 & 2.

Give up on the CJ McCollum comparison. That’s horrible.

[RC_Drunkford]

Uncle Dennis seems happy:lol

https://i.imgur.com/zbIh7uk.jpg

[RC_Drunkford]

I honestly believe that Aldridge is the one Kawhi had a problem with besides Parker.

when they asked Kawhi about him being on good terms with the players the 2nd guy he mentioned was LA

[Degoat]

I Feel for Danny green after that game, poor guy might have been the spurs mvp lol on a serious note a lot guys did really good tonight!!

[MoSpur02]

when they asked Kawhi about him being on good terms with the players the 2nd guy he mentioned was LA

Really? Didn't see that. Guess I was wrong then.

[Sanjohnny2018]

Good game. Something tells me he might come back next season. That embrace at the end between bleonard, chip and pop was interesting.

[Budkin]

:bobo

Forbes is good, tbh.

I’m eating so much crow over Forbes.

[anon]

Give up on the CJ McCollum comparison. That’s horrible.
Why? Drives and shoots with no apparent physical advantages or disadvantages if playing the 2. White obviously plays better D, I was talking about the ceiling on White's O. He makes blow-bys that belie his footspeed or nimbleness like McCollum. Sneaky.

Maybe I should have called him a faster, more agile Fathead instead.

[DAF86]

Why? Drives and shoots with no apparent physical advantages or disadvantages if playing the 2. White obviously plays better D, I was talking about the ceiling on White's O. He makes blow-bys that belie his footspeed or nimbleness like McCollum. Sneaky.

Maybe I should have called him a faster, more agile Fathead instead.

Jrue Holiday is the best comparisson I can find so far. On both ends of the floor.

[FkLA]

Good game. Something tells me he might come back next season. That embrace at the end between bleonard, chip and pop was interesting.

Horrible first post. Dont post again.

[TDMVPDPOY]

white currently is the b etter player between him and murray, i dont know the hype with murray, that all defensive team selection last season was justa consolation prize by the league after losing green/kawhi, let alone anderson...dude is overrated as hell who never locked down anyone on defense...

white is the real deal, has no on/off the court bs, spurs should be giving him more minutes and bigger role on the spurs....

[Fusternino]

Still chuckling how intimidated OG was whenever Forbes was guarding him.

[TDMVPDPOY]

white currently is the b etter player between him and murray, i dont know the hype with murray, that all defensive team selection last season was justa consolation prize by the league after losing green/kawhi, let alone anderson...dude is overrated as hell who never locked down anyone on defense...

white is the real deal, has no on/off the court bs, spurs should be giving him more minutes and bigger role on the spurs....

[jehawk81]

Horrible first post. Dont post again.

:lol:lol:lol

[skin27]

white currently is the b etter player between him and murray, i dont know the hype with murray, that all defensive team selection last season was justa consolation prize by the league after losing green/kawhi, let alone anderson...dude is overrated as hell who never locked down anyone on defense...

white is the real deal, has no on/off the court bs, spurs should be giving him more minutes and bigger role on the spurs....


so how about you said that the spurs won’t have a chance of beating the raptors?

[Spurs fever]

I wonder if Kawhi knew how much he hurt this fans before tonight...

[MoSpur02]

I’m eating so much crow over Forbes.

This

[SpurPadre]

Kawhi is gonna get revenge at Toronto, isn't he?

[TDMVPDPOY]

so how about you said that the spurs won’t have a chance of beating the raptors?

u make it sound like the spurs just won a championship... nothing more then 1/82 games like pop said b4 the game

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Kawhi is gonna get revenge at Toronto, isn't he?

Oh yeah, that game is gonna be a disaster for us, but for tonight...we dine

[MoSpur02]

According to Don Harris' Twitter account, Kawhi somewhat blaming the media as to why he received all that booing.

[Budkin]

Kawhi is gonna get revenge at Toronto, isn't he?

No doubt. We’ll get demolished just as bad most likely.

[Mugen]

Also, holy shit was OG horrible this game... I thought this nigga was supposed to be good?

[wingster]

Kawhi is gonna get revenge at Toronto, isn't he?
We still gonna win.
You don't think Demar will show up again then? Especially with it being in Toronto?

[anon]

Jrue Holiday is the best comparisson I can find so far. On both ends of the floor.
Not bad. White just looks more dynamic both on the attack by himself and setting up the Aldridge/Poeltl roll than Holiday for me which is why I'm higher on him having an offensive ceiling of a starter for a contender within year 4, maybe, crossing fingers here, even as soon as year 3.

[DAF86]

Not bad. White just looks more dynamic both on the attack by himself and setting up the Aldridge/Poeltl roll than Holiday for me which is why I'm higher on him having an offensive ceiling of a starter for a contender within year 4, maybe, crossing fingers here, even as soon as year 3.

Holiday is an all-star level player. I know we are all high right now but let's hold our horses, tbh. :lol

[DAF86]

According to Don Harris' Twitter account, Kawhi somewhat blaming the media as to why he received all that booing.

Either Kawhi is really not all up there, or he's a troll.

[SpurPadre]

According to Don Harris' Twitter account, Kawhi somewhat blaming the media as to why he received all that booing.

A bullshit excuse from the Donald Trump playbook. I keep hating the fucker more and more, tbh.

[skin27]

u make it sound like the spurs just won a championship... nothing more then 1/82 games like pop said b4 the game

tha point is you’re take was wrong men..

[Fusternino]

Also, holy shit was OG horrible this game... I thought this nigga was supposed to be good?

Couldn't even drive it on Forbes. Reminds me of LeGM shooting fadeaways while covered by Mills.

[anon]

Holiday is an all-star level player. I know we are all high right now but let's hold our horses, tbh. :lol
Nah, I've been bullish on him since I saw him feint like he was spotting up only to cut baseline for an uncontested layup if only Pau made the pass during garbage time of some random game last season when the Spurs were getting blown out. Kid has the goods among all the recent guard prospects of the Spurs this decade.

[james evans]

Call me crazy but I think there is a possibility of a Spurs/Raptors finals. It's a great storyline..

[DAF86]

Call me crazy but I think there is a possibility of a Spurs/Raptors finals. It's a great storyline..

Crazy fuck.

[Mugen]

Might see "Kawhi Leonard - Out 3-4 Weeks - Load Management" after that giant load he took tonight tbh.

[timvp]

Also, holy shit was OG horrible this game... I thought this nigga was supposed to be good?

Yeah, Poeltl has passed OG but still behind Siakam, obviously. He's surprisingly unskilled for a second-year guy. Still young, though.

[Spurs Homer]

Told u... Let demar keep out shining LMA... he will be the next victim of LMA's diva antics... Trade LMA... The team is clearly better when demar doesn't have to worry about deferring to LMA to keep him happy


dude stfu with this and enjoy this team as constructed

you have been wrong on everything

just stfu

[baseline bum]

According to Don Harris' Twitter account, Kawhi somewhat blaming the media as to why he received all that booing.

Don Harris is a faggot, got scooped by TSpence.

[Sanjohnny2018]

Horrible first post. Dont post again.
Because your posts are masterpieces. I had thousands of posts in a previous account by the way.

[MannyIsGod]

Also, holy shit was OG horrible this game... I thought this nigga was supposed to be good?

Just someone else people on here act upset about to shit on Pop. All ya'll overrate the fuck out of players like that then shit on all nba players like DeMar.

[Chews]

Kawhi is gonna get revenge at Toronto, isn't he?

He played well tonight, I think he will play roughly the same but others will play better and they probably have KL and JV back.

But I think demar balls even harder there and we win

[bklynspursfan]

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[bklynspursfan]

Just someone else people on here act upset about to shit on Pop. All ya'll overrate the fuck out of players like that then shit on all nba players like DeMar.

Yup

[TDMVPDPOY]

after the game did his uncle take his hand back to the room and tried whiping his ass after that massive dump today?

[anon]

1081046623965200386
Damn, cowboy got balls of steel to deliver the death threat in real life.

[jehawk81]

Damn, cowboy got balls of steel to deliver the death threat in real life.

What did he say

[SpurPadre]

We still gonna win.
You don't think Demar will show up again then? Especially with it being in Toronto?

DeMar will show up in Toronto but we're still a shitty road team and have been since last season, tbh.

[RC_Drunkford]

no postgame interviews from the players? Only saw Pop and Kawhi give an interview and DeRozan on TNT

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwChYGyVAAADTl1.jpg:large

[DAF86]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwChYGyVAAADTl1.jpg:large

lol what a great photo.

[Slippy]

most satisfying win of the season. Probably since the the last title win. Everyone stepped up, great team effort.

Derick White defending Kawhi set the tone on defense. He pressured him enough to be disruptive with quick feet movement and smarts . The way he made up for the lack of height would of made Bruce Bowen proud.

[Mugen]

lmao that Demar/Kawhi photo

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Spalding/status/1081035213684305921

[spurs10]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwChYGyVAAADTl1.jpg:large Wow...what a shot...in more ways than one.

[TimmyBuckets]

Man what a beautiful performance by Demar. The look on LMA's face when he gives Demar his 10th assist is priceless. Demar grabbing Forbes. He looks like a leader out there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ8K_8mLoqU

[Arcadian]

We won the trade, guys!

[ducks]

lmao at Pop. Pure class.

Yeah he feels bad for Leonard
Had he talked to teammates said quietly he wanted out
He would not have been booed

[Corp1]

Tonight's pace by the Spurs reminded me of '14. We definitely need that Patty more consistently, he frenetic and awesome tonight!

[SpurPadre]

Gotta point out that Ernie Johnson, Kenny Smith and especially Barkley righfully defended the Spurs and called Shaq out for his stupid take on the situation.

[szkorhetz]

Could someone please link me a page where I can find photos of tonight's game?

I need a new FB cover. :D

[Texas_Ranger]

Could someone please link me a page where I can find photos of tonight's game?

I need a new FB cover. :D

https://www.nba.com/spurs/gallery/photos-spurs-vs-raptors-1/3-0

[Fusternino]

Ugh . . . time to eat crow.

I wanna keep Forbes, haha.

[Mirrornick]

he won’t get back in the game..lol

You were wrong

[r0drig0lac]

Gotta point out that Ernie Johnson, Kenny Smith and especially Barkley righfully defended the Spurs and called Shaq out for his stupid take on the situation.

good things

[cd021]

According to Don Harris' Twitter account, Kawhi somewhat blaming the media as to why he received all that booing.
Maybe he really is on the MAGA train :lmao

[Ignazzz]

lol what a great photo.


Great pose from KL2

[Fireball]

awesome victory ... that 1st quarter energy was off the charts and the Spurs really showed off with fast breaks and dunks

Demar with his first ever Triple Double, Bryn shooting lights out and Lonnie Walker having a pure garbage time three pointer to mark his first points in the NBA .. what was not to like tbh

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TddKS18OnY

[SouthTexasRancher]

AT&T was rocking last night. I don't think KaWhitter expected the level and length of all the boos and name calling that went on most of the game. Uncle Dennis looked like he was about to throw up. I kind of felt bad for his mom though.

[FlAVaK]

no postgame interviews from the players? Only saw Pop and Kawhi give an interview and DeRozan on TNT


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGi9xzCZDGg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d76YIMxF1rw

[callo1]

So did Pop refuse to do the mandatory in game interview last night? Did anyone catch that? Nurse did his....I found it curious.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGi9xzCZDGg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d76YIMxF1rw

You can tell Gay has no love lost for Kawhi. He had to stop himself from saying Kawhi deserved the booing.

Forbes alludes to the fact that the divorce was very messy (as did Gay).

[boutons_deux]

I kind of felt bad for his mom though.

I wonder if she will reconsider living in SA?

[boutons_deux]

TOR had 7 players in double figures.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

meanie spurs fans and their toxic boos

[bklynspursfan]

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[jmard5]

Told u... Let demar keep out shining LMA... he will be the next victim of LMA's diva antics... Trade LMA... The team is clearly better when demar doesn't have to worry about deferring to LMA to keep him happy

Stop it. Stop.

[duncan2k5]

According to Don Harris' Twitter account, Kawhi somewhat blaming the media as to why he received all that booing.

he wasnt blaming the media for the booing...he was asked if he was disappointed by the loss given his history with the spurs...they asked nothing about booing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6EKEFDW6RQ

[duncan2k5]

dude stfu with this and enjoy this team as constructed

you have been wrong on everything

just stfu

have you never wanted changes on our team?? youre mad because i want something that EVERY spurs fan have wanted? CHANGE!

[duncan2k5]

We won the trade, guys!

lmfao

[duncan2k5]

Stop it. Stop.

wanting me to stop tellling the truth doesnt make it go away...LMA cannot deal with another player being the guy...he doesnt give a shit about team success...after one of our best regular seasons ever, he pouted the entire season and demanded a trade because he wasnt shooting enough

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have you never wanted changes on our team?? youre mad because i want something that EVERY spurs fan have wanted? CHANGE!

You're pathetic, chief.

You may want changes. I'm excited af about this team and its possibilities in a year. I didnt think this team had a chance in hell of competing for a title anytime soon. Now I think they will next year. GTFOH with you LA butthurt. Your boy is gone.

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wanting me to stop tellling the truth doesnt make it go away...LMA cannot deal with another player being the guy...he doesnt give a shit about team success...after one of our best regular seasons ever, he pouted the entire season and demanded a trade because he wasnt shooting enough

He quietly, professionally asked for a trade. The way a grown up does it. You have psychological problems with this LMA disorder.

[duncan2k5]

You're pathetic, chief.

You may want changes. I'm excited af about this team and its possibilities in a year. I didnt think this team had a chance in hell of competing for a title anytime soon. Now I think they will next year. GTFOH with you LA butthurt. Your boy is gone.

we will never win a ring with LMA on the team...get it through your head

[duncan2k5]

He quietly, professionally asked for a trade. The way a grown up does it. You have psychological problems with this LMA disorder.

so did kawhi...did kawhi announce it on twitter or something? the difference is that it was a frenzy around kawhi since he is a great player...no one gave a shit about LMA, especially after his playoff choke...the guy pouted ON COURT the entire (WINNING) season, and fell off a cliff in the playoffs...demanded a trade WITHOUT giving a reason UNTIL he couldnt be traded...THEN he sat with Pop and hashed it out...

read the tea leaves...for us to be good enough to win a ring, we would need players better than LMA...he wont be able to deal with that...on top of that he cant handle playoff pressure...the guy needs to be traded to some sucker while his stock is high

[offset formation]

we will never win a ring with LMA on the team...get it through your head

Only one team wins per year. We are in the era of GS dominance. And we are getting better. Will compete next year, assuming we are healthy.

[offset formation]

so did kawhi...did kawhi announce it on twitter or something? the difference is that it was a frenzy around kawhi since he is a great player...no one gave a shit about LMA, especially after his playoff choke...the guy pouted ON COURT the entire (WINNING) season, and fell off a cliff in the playoffs...demanded a trade WITHOUT giving a reason UNTIL he couldnt be traded...THEN he sat with Pop and hashed it out...

read the tea leaves...for us to be good enough to win a ring, we would need players better than LMA...he wont be able to deal with that...on top of that he cant handle playoff pressure...the guy needs to be traded to some sucker while his stock is high

Holy shit, man. Do I need to repeat for you all the differences between how LA went about his business and how Kawhi did?

You aren't worth the time homey because you're like a Republican. Dense as fuck and unwilling to let new information guide you.

[duncan2k5]

Only one team wins per year. We are in the era of GS dominance. And we are getting better. Will compete next year, assuming we are healthy.

bro...we arent even CLOSE to winning...even if GS falls off the map....

[Chinook]

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Could imagine that Kawhi felt like shit doing what he did to Pop as his wife was dying. One of the many regrets that Leonard had that he wouldn't articulate to the media. If timvp is correct, Kawhi may have had legit beef with the Spurs that could have warranted a trade request. But it seems that pretty early on, things just completely spiraled out of control.

[duncan2k5]

Holy shit, man. Do I need to repeat for you all the differences between how LA went about his business and how Kawhi did?

You aren't worth the time homey because you're like a Republican. Dense as fuck and unwilling to let new information guide you.

u cant because what LMA did was worse...it only had less media coverage because no one cared about him...kawhi balled his ass off while on the court...LMA would pout and give up in the middle of games...that happened for the entire season...u forgot there were media reports about him being unhappy since december that year?

[r0drig0lac]

u cant because what LMA did was worse...it only had less media coverage because no one cared about him...kawhi balled his ass off while on the court...LMA would pout and give up in the middle of games...that happened for the entire season...u forgot there were media reports about him being unhappy since december that year?

c'mon man

[bklynspursfan]

Could imagine that Kawhi felt like shit doing what he did to Pop as his wife was dying. One of the many regrets that Leonard had that he wouldn't articulate to the media. If timvp is correct, Kawhi may have had legit beef with the Spurs that could have warranted a trade request. But it seems that pretty early on, things just completely spiraled out of control.

Definitely. Also wonder if he maybe (?) wanted to be with the team more, or communicate with Pop more, but was advised against it. Seemed like a genuine moment they shared, and perhaps the first one in quite a while. Gotta think if they met at all last year, Uncle Dennis was around.

[bklynspursfan]

Comparing what LMA did to what happened with Kawhi is absolutely ridiculous btw smh.

[Spurs Homer]

have you never wanted changes on our team?? youre mad because i want something that EVERY spurs fan have wanted? CHANGE!

I get it - but it seems that people here want change for no good reason.

There is no mvp talent out there that will be gifted for some bench players and the stars the spurs do have - have to have a chance to prove themselves.

Early this season everyone was tanking and trading away the entire team. Do you think any of the scrubs that everyone here has mentioned coming here would have been better than what the spurs are doing now?

[timvp]

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:(

[Spurs Homer]

u cant because what LMA did was worse...it only had less media coverage because no one cared about him...kawhi balled his ass off while on the court...LMA would pout and give up in the middle of games...that happened for the entire season...u forgot there were media reports about him being unhappy since december that year?

You are way off.

LMA was an established All star for multiple seasons and he was not being used anywhere near - where he could utilize his talent. He did the best he could with a system that negated his talent until he decided he needed to play elsewhere. Pop and LMA sat down and both realized that they could work on this challenge and to both GROWN MEN'S CREDIT - they seem to have found a way forward.
In this small ball 3 point NBA with touch fouls on every play - Pop is figuring out how to use LMA as an asset that many teams have given up on - and the verdict is not in yet - Pop may actually know what he is doing.

There is no player available that is leagues better than LMA and if there is - that team will not give him away to get LMA - why can't you get this?

Kawhi on the other hand, quit on the team and faked an injury because he did not have the BALLS to talk to pop on his own without his uncle. Fuck that piece of shit.

He makes LMA look like a total pro in contrast - yet here you are seeing the exact opposite. SMH

[bklynspursfan]

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[Chinook]

Definitely. Also wonder if he maybe (?) wanted to be with the team more, or communicate with Pop more, but was advised against it. Seemed like a genuine moment they shared, and perhaps the first one in quite a while. Gotta think if they met at all last year, Uncle Dennis was around.

There were rumors that Kawhi wanted to go spend time with Pop after his wife died but decided against it. Who knows why that didn't happen, though I do think there is room for nobility there. It really does make you wonder why the two sides couldn't talk it out, because if Kawhi and Pop have this relationship, it's hard to imagine anyone else with the organization having enough influence to poison the well that much. I almost wish there was a video that stayed on the court to see whom Leonard went to and whom he ignored.

Though maybe it really was just down to the DPE.

[sammy]

Holy shit, man. Do I need to repeat for you all the differences between how LA went about his business and how Kawhi did?

You aren't worth the time homey because you're like a Republican. Dense as fuck and unwilling to let new information guide you.

So true! :lol

[jmard5]

wanting me to stop tellling the truth doesnt make it go away...LMA cannot deal with another player being the guy...he doesnt give a shit about team success...after one of our best regular seasons ever, he pouted the entire season and demanded a trade because he wasnt shooting enough

No, I mean stop with all your speculation and hate. While we are optimistic on the current status of the team, all you do is find something you hate and then dwell on it.

[Kawhi_6rings]

he wasnt blaming the media for the booing...he was asked if he was disappointed by the loss given his history with the spurs...they asked nothing about booing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6EKEFDW6RQ
KACHOKE IS AN PROVEN CANCER...............:lol

[RC_Drunkford]

duncan2k5 out here on suicide watch :lmao

[Chinook]

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1786796


have never been more put off since the Jazz crowd booed Derek Fisher when he left for Los Angeles for the interest of his daughter receiving the best medical treatment possible.

The San Antonio crowd showed what it means to be spoiled with a rich history if they can boo a guy that arguably led them to two finals on his back.

We need to show our guy Kawhi the love when he returns.

:lol Kawhi already gets way too much credit for 2014, but there's no way to argue Leonard carried the team in 2013.

[Mugen]

Pure tinfoil/conspiracy hat on, but it had to be some racist or downright offensive shit that came down from the ownership group to Kawhi/family.

That's the only reason that would make sense for all this shit because anybody else in the organization outside of Pop/RC is extremely replaceable when compared to your franchise cornerstone.

[RC_Drunkford]

There were rumors that Kawhi wanted to go spend time with Pop after his wife died but decided against it. Who knows why that didn't happen, though I do think there is room for nobility there. It really does make you wonder why the two sides couldn't talk it out, because if Kawhi and Pop have this relationship, it's hard to imagine anyone else with the organization having enough influence to poison the well that much. I almost wish there was a video that stayed on the court to see whom Leonard went to and whom he ignored.

Though maybe it really was just down to the DPE.

I assume the only person who could poison that relationship is uncle Dennis

[Chinook]

I assume the only person who could poison that relationship is uncle Dennis

I'm referring to the oft-hinted-at notion from timvp and Kori that Kawhi had a semi-legit beef with someone in the organization due to comment that person made. That beef was apparently so big that Kawhi told his teammates in the player's only meeting that he wouldn't give his all for the organization anymore. Had it been Pop he had issues with, it would have been easy to understand what happened. But if Leonard and Pop are close, then it really raises the question of who could more solidly define the Spurs organization than Pop and cancel out the good will between coach and player?

[Dverde]

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1786796



:lol Kawhi already gets way too much credit for 2014, but there's no way to argue Leonard carried the team in 2013.

I agree with you. He did miss the crucial three throw that would have sealed the game too.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

I'm referring to the oft-hinted-at notion from timvp and Kori that Kawhi had a semi-legit beef with someone in the organization due to comment that person made. That beef was apparently so big that Kawhi told his teammates in the player's only meeting that he wouldn't give his all for the organization anymore. Had it been Pop he had issues with, it would have been easy to understand what happened. But if Leonard and Pop are close, then it really raises the question of who could more solidly define the Spurs organization than Pop and cancel out the good will between coach and player?

RC is the only other one with power that wouldn't be fired for calling him autistic or something of that nature

[Chinook]

RC is the only other one with power that wouldn't be fired for calling him autistic or something of that nature

Him, Holt or Duncan. That's why I kicked around the idea of Tim being the guy. Any other former Spur could have been scapegoated, even Robinson. But Tim is just too important to the organization to throw away, even for Leonard. Again, that's just shit-shooting. Just saying that it's a pretty big mystery.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Him, Holt or Duncan. That's why I kicked around the idea of Tim being the guy. Any other former Spur could have been scapegoated, even Robinson. But Tim is just too important to the organization to throw away, even for Leonard. Again, that's just shit-shooting. Just saying that it's a pretty big mystery.

Tim has always been sarcastic but no way could I ever imagine him saying anything about kawhi. Now Holt, theirs a drunk who could have a loose tongue

[BillMc]

Tim has always been sarcastic but no way could I ever imagine him saying anything about kawhi. Now Holt, theirs a drunk who could have a loose tongue

Doesn't Holt have alzheimers or something similar? Is he even around the team? I thought his wife (or now ex-wife) took over.

All vague things I remember. Could be off...

I thought one of the issues (besides KL's desire to return home and according to Stephen A just general boredom with Texas life) was that the Spurs wanted him to prove his health and commitment to the team before offer the supermax, and Kawhi and his people thought this was a game to lowball him.

But what do I know. I'm 3000 miles away.

[Mugen]

No way it's Timmy. It's definitely somebody in the ownership/front office group, somebody that would have had some type of contact with Dennis or something.

[Indianman]

Which country do you represent, mate?

[bklynspursfan]

I'm referring to the oft-hinted-at notion from timvp and Kori that Kawhi had a semi-legit beef with someone in the organization due to comment that person made. That beef was apparently so big that Kawhi told his teammates in the player's only meeting that he wouldn't give his all for the organization anymore. Had it been Pop he had issues with, it would have been easy to understand what happened. But if Leonard and Pop are close, then it really raises the question of who could more solidly define the Spurs organization than Pop and cancel out the good will between coach and player?

The only thing I wonder with this is, why not sit on the bench with the team if he would give his all for them. It seemed like he went ghost on everyone.

[Dex]

white currently is the b etter player between him and murray, i dont know the hype with murray, that all defensive team selection last season was justa consolation prize by the league after losing green/kawhi, let alone anderson...dude is overrated as hell who never locked down anyone on defense...

white is the real deal, has no on/off the court bs, spurs should be giving him more minutes and bigger role on the spurs....

Murray was named All-NBA Defense in May (youngest player in NBA history, btw). Leonard didn't ask for his trade until June.

Try again.

[duncan2k5]

I get it - but it seems that people here want change for no good reason.

There is no mvp talent out there that will be gifted for some bench players and the stars the spurs do have - have to have a chance to prove themselves.

Early this season everyone was tanking and trading away the entire team. Do you think any of the scrubs that everyone here has mentioned coming here would have been better than what the spurs are doing now?

you arent getting my point...i think having LMA is almost as bad as having Melo...we WONT ever win with him...i just want him gone...i think we will be better because of it...im not expecting another all star...ideally i want a role player that would fit into the new era NBA and doesnt have attitude problems when he isnt the focal point of the offense...for example covington would have been an ideal choice (im giving an example...clearly twolves wouldnt trade for LMA when they already have a better PF)

[duncan2k5]

I'm referring to the oft-hinted-at notion from timvp and Kori that Kawhi had a semi-legit beef with someone in the organization due to comment that person made. That beef was apparently so big that Kawhi told his teammates in the player's only meeting that he wouldn't give his all for the organization anymore. Had it been Pop he had issues with, it would have been easy to understand what happened. But if Leonard and Pop are close, then it really raises the question of who could more solidly define the Spurs organization than Pop and cancel out the good will between coach and player?

ive been saying forever kawhi had issues with LMA...i guess it has to slap ppl in the face for them to see it

[LakerHater]

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/oie_akTupoISTSVR.gif

[LakerHater]

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/kawhi-leonard-of-the-toronto-raptors-is-greeted-by-gregg-popvich-head-picture-id1076964840?k=6&m=1076964840&s=612x612&w=0&h=IE-B_mMulpzjT5byx2_5jU0g0fc_JQzIcWp3S6QLJII=

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/kawhi-leonard-of-the-toronto-raptors-greets-gregg-popvich-head-coach-picture-id1076925656?k=6&m=1076925656&s=612x612&w=0&h=vb55jRdrsMpk1qjC-TadF1p9T-7TNxIcZ_kqsl1all4=

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/kawhi-leonard-of-the-toronto-raptors-patty-mills-of-the-san-antonio-picture-id1076925298?k=6&m=1076925298&s=612x612&w=0&h=HYIz3MuG_JqNp2JJdZg6BJx5pO1aWXHKeCM13D9c-us=

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/demar-derozan-of-the-san-antonio-spurs-greets-kawhi-leonard-of-the-picture-id1076925646?k=6&m=1076925646&s=612x612&w=0&h=2_fKMaeJDZpegaukdzMMuMj5zNVBpetG22rP8fAGjzE=

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/demar-derozan-of-the-san-antonio-spurs-passes-off-under-greg-monroe-picture-id1076964868?k=6&m=1076964868&s=612x612&w=0&h=IH79Vp5U_PGKg1AuBwrBSgZnywlJC-TSHGirvU9L7qk=

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/demar-derozan-of-the-san-antonio-spurs-is-guarded-by-kawhi-leonard-of-picture-id1076919094?k=6&m=1076919094&s=612x612&w=0&h=U6ATaii8-zppdU8JA2-fFEgj8r3dRdzcms1rjrs_vsg=

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/lonnie-walker-of-the-san-antonio-spurs-drives-past-chris-boucher-of-picture-id1076964866?k=6&m=1076964866&s=612x612&w=0&h=Y0UFsFnjbhmu_waCJfHANdacJ9tU0ypj1QCx6YIYM8A=

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/demar-derozan-of-the-san-antonio-spurs-and-kawhi-leonard-of-the-picture-id1076919090?k=6&m=1076919090&s=612x612&w=0&h=-8LsIJwB0m0_VWmX7Pyvllu_Hje8B1vtENMMXRZRTgI=

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/demar-derozan-of-the-san-antonio-spurs-teases-the-bench-of-the-late-picture-id1076965102?k=6&m=1076965102&s=612x612&w=0&h=Ir2fN7VMrNVEIB9914lI-Ov-Gp_vPiC4SUOdlY7vhx8=

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/kawhi-leonard-of-the-toronto-raptors-sits-on-the-bench-during-a-the-picture-id1076919006?k=6&m=1076919006&s=612x612&w=0&h=uLFDp3YhWZvo_TS1rV0otXk-aJJMD37YyuxNOCqGPwA=

[duncan2k5]

You are way off.

LMA was an established All star for multiple seasons and he was not being used anywhere near - where he could utilize his talent. He did the best he could with a system that negated his talent until he decided he needed to play elsewhere. Pop and LMA sat down and both realized that they could work on this challenge and to both GROWN MEN'S CREDIT - they seem to have found a way forward.
In this small ball 3 point NBA with touch fouls on every play - Pop is figuring out how to use LMA as an asset that many teams have given up on - and the verdict is not in yet - Pop may actually know what he is doing.

There is no player available that is leagues better than LMA and if there is - that team will not give him away to get LMA - why can't you get this?

Kawhi on the other hand, quit on the team and faked an injury because he did not have the BALLS to talk to pop on his own without his uncle. Fuck that piece of shit.

He makes LMA look like a total pro in contrast - yet here you are seeing the exact opposite. SMH

u are making up a scenario for LMA that simply isnt true...the guy struggled every year in the playoffs since coming...in the first year without duncan, and kawhi's real first year as as the go to guy, he had his worst season...we all watched the games...the guy was being used the same as he is now...he just was taking less shots per game than in portland...it's not as if he went to pop and said "im not being used properly...you are making me a three point shooter when im a post up guy...he said he wants more touches...

look at the article, since a lot of us ahve short memories...https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246412/LaMarcus-Aldridge-Wants-Trade-From-Spurs

there was no consolation...no explanation...LMA wanted out, and spurs were shopping him...there was NEVER any sit down until AFTER they COULDNT trade him...

[Ozballer]

ive been saying forever kawhi had issues with LMA...i guess it has to slap ppl in the face for them to see it

Who cares? Kawhi moved on, LMA moved on. Pop moved on. The Spurs moved on, Toronto moved on. You are still stuck on shit that already happened and that you were not part of other than hearing media and blog gossip and speculation and that an outcome already took place.
So get some modern zen, mindfulness books and get on with the program, it will do your mental health wonders and will benefit the blog standards greatly

[duncan2k5]

Who cares? Kawhi moved on, LMA moved on. Pop moved on. The Spurs moved on, Toronto moved on. You are still stuck on shit that already happened and that you were not part of other than hearing media and blog gossip and speculation and that an outcome already took place.
So get some modern zen, mindfulness books and get on with the program, it will do your mental health wonders and will benefit the blog standards greatly

do u realize im RESPONDING to what someone said? say that to THEM...u seem to have a personal issue with me...

[Ozballer]

do u realize im RESPONDING to what someone said? say that to THEM...u seem to have a personal issue with me...

I don't even know you. How could I possibly have a personal issue with you? not at all mate. However, it does seem by reading your posts that you are at odds with the entire planet by relentlessly endorsing what is now irrelevant and without knowing facts. Of course, it is how you come across and maybe completely wrong. Cheers

[duncan2k5]

I don't even know you. How could I possibly have a personal issue with you? not at all mate. However, it does seem by reading your posts that you are at odds with the entire planet by relentlessly endorsing what is now irrelevant and without knowing facts. Of course, it is how you come across and maybe completely wrong. Cheers

u ignored the actual person who brought it up and attacked me...saying i shouldnt bring up stuff thats old...

[Ozballer]

u ignored the actual person who brought it up and attacked me...saying i shouldnt bring up stuff thats old...

Ahh...not the angle we are looking for at all, son. But if it works for you that's cool.

[Dverde]

Raptors probably getting nervous...There’s been chatter about the Raptors pursuing Wizards guard Bradley Beal, but Washington wants two players and two draft picks for him, (http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-with-kyle-lowry-out-raptors-search-for-playmaking-help/1xg3lpcgjaipo1gsv07r57ezqp?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter) according to sources. That would cost the team budding star Pascal Siakam and wing OG Anunoby, plus some filler salary and two future first-round draft picks. The Raptors already owe this year’s pick to the Spurs, and they would have to persuade Washington to take a pick as far out as 2023.
– via Sporting News (http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-with-kyle-lowry-out-raptors-search-for-playmaking-help/1xg3lpcgjaipo1gsv07r57ezqp?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

[RC_Drunkford]

ive been saying forever kawhi had issues with LMA...i guess it has to slap ppl in the face for them to see it

yeah that's why when they asked him about his relationship with Spurs players he said it's all good. DJ, LA, Pau were the first ones he mentioned. You're truly retarded

[sammy]

u are making up a scenario for LMA that simply isnt true...the guy struggled every year in the playoffs since coming...in the first year without duncan, and kawhi's real first year as as the go to guy, he had his worst season...we all watched the games...the guy was being used the same as he is now...he just was taking less shots per game than in portland...it's not as if he went to pop and said "im not being used properly...you are making me a three point shooter when im a post up guy...he said he wants more touches...

look at the article, since a lot of us ahve short memories...https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246412/LaMarcus-Aldridge-Wants-Trade-From-Spurs

there was no consolation...no explanation...LMA wanted out, and spurs were shopping him...there was NEVER any sit down until AFTER they COULDNT trade him...

Well said duncan2k5. These are just haters of LMA and want to make him the scapegoat of the mute running from Pop and his team!

[sammy]

Looking at those photos, damn what might of been if only Kawhi would've spoken with Pop! I felt bad during the game when the booing got so bad and seeing that picture with his head down and Spurs fan being smug, wow that's enough!

[kaji157]

No matter how you see it and how pop and kawhi speaks.
Kawhi wronged the team for whatever reason.
That's the reason he was let go I think, there weren't any Pop kawhi conversation to try to convince him to stay.
Pop was very clear "he choose", he choose not to be with the team on a time in need, he choose not to be there in Tony and Manu's last year, not to be with the team once Pop wife passed. That's the character Pop is talking about, he is a character guy, a strong character guy, a diva.
He probably wanted someone fired for some beef and the Spurs said no, and he couldn't handle it.
Pop appreciates the guy, just don't want those characters here.

[TheCerebral1]

Fuck off Kawai, I'm glad we made you look pedestrian for a game. This is the best win of the season, good on you Demar!

[TheCerebral1]

1081079097743298560

Pop was saying, enjoy being the "James Harden of the East".

[RC_Drunkford]

Kawhi Leonard with his worst +/- of in the last 5 years :lmao:lmao:lmao

-22 :lmao

[Marcus Bryant]

Most likely someone said he wasn’t worthy of the supermax, who also happened to be the person who signs the checks.

[Marcus Bryant]

I think Uncle is in over his head but even a blind squirrel can figure out that $220 mil or whatever guaranteed is not something you walk away from for a better shoe endorsement.

[timtonymanu]

Looking at those photos, damn what might of been if only Kawhi would've spoken with Pop! I felt bad during the game when the booing got so bad and seeing that picture with his head down and Spurs fan being smug, wow that's enough!

Nah fuck Kawhi. I enjoyed every bit of it and what the hell was he expecting with all that bullshit last year?

[ducks]

I'm referring to the oft-hinted-at notion from timvp and Kori that Kawhi had a semi-legit beef with someone in the organization due to comment that person made. That beef was apparently so big that Kawhi told his teammates in the player's only meeting that he wouldn't give his all for the organization anymore. Had it been Pop he had issues with, it would have been easy to understand what happened. But if Leonard and Pop are close, then it really raises the question of who could more solidly define the Spurs organization than Pop and cancel out the good will between coach and player?dito


https://twitter.com/Abrjsdad/status/1081079097743298560?s=20

[boutons_deux]

If only the Spurs could avg 3 out of 4 qtrs like the first one against TOR.

What was great about the big 1st qtr lead was that Spurs were able to hold it to the end, even if just swapping baskets, and losing 2 qtrs.

[TDMVPDPOY]

dito


https://twitter.com/Abrjsdad/status/1081079097743298560?s=20

no.9 i bet yah

[Joseph Kony]

u are making up a scenario for LMA that simply isnt true...the guy struggled every year in the playoffs since coming...in the first year without duncan, and kawhi's real first year as as the go to guy, he had his worst season...we all watched the games...the guy was being used the same as he is now...he just was taking less shots per game than in portland...it's not as if he went to pop and said "im not being used properly...you are making me a three point shooter when im a post up guy...he said he wants more touches...

look at the article, since a lot of us ahve short memories...https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246412/LaMarcus-Aldridge-Wants-Trade-From-Spurs

there was no consolation...no explanation...LMA wanted out, and spurs were shopping him...there was NEVER any sit down until AFTER they COULDNT trade him...




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Age
Tm
Lg
Pos
G
GS
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
2P
2PA
2P%
eFG%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS


2015-16 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/aldrila01/gamelog/2016/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
30
SAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2016.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
PF
10
10
33.7
8.8
16.9
.521
0.2
0.2
1.000
8.6
16.7
.515
.527
4.1
4.6
.891
2.2
6.1
8.3
1.0
0.4
1.4
1.1
1.8
21.9


2016-17 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/aldrila01/gamelog/2017/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
31
SAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2017.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2017.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
PF
16
16
33.6
6.9
15.0
.458
0.1
0.9
.143
6.8
14.1
.478
.463
2.6
3.4
.764
2.7
4.8
7.4
1.5
0.6
1.0
1.8
2.6
16.5


2017-18 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/aldrila01/gamelog/2018/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
32
SAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2018.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
C
5
5
35.4
7.4
16.0
.463
0.6
1.0
.600
6.8
15.0
.453
.481
8.2
8.4
.976
2.6
6.6
9.2
2.4
0.6
0.4
1.8
1.8
23.6




Excluding the 17 season where we all know he wanted out, you obviously dont know what the fuck you're talking about (per par) because he didnt "struggle every year in the playoffs since coming"

[DMC]

I think Uncle is in over his head but even a blind squirrel can figure out that $220 mil or whatever guaranteed is not something you walk away from for a better shoe endorsement.

This. You can live in LA like a motherfucker with 220m.

[TDMVPDPOY]

This. You can live in LA like a motherfucker with 220m.

they never recovered the loss amount from going supermax to max...or whatever max he could get

then them endorsements like shoe deal, heb...or whatever crap he was earning on the side

[duncan2k5]

yeah that's why when they asked him about his relationship with Spurs players he said it's all good. DJ, LA, Pau were the first ones he mentioned. You're truly retarded

So last year Kawhi was lying about everything... But now u chose to believe him? Lol... Funny how that works

[duncan2k5]

No matter how you see it and how pop and kawhi speaks.
Kawhi wronged the team for whatever reason.
That's the reason he was let go I think, there weren't any Pop kawhi conversation to try to convince him to stay.
Pop was very clear "he choose", he choose not to be with the team on a time in need, he choose not to be there in Tony and Manu's last year, not to be with the team once Pop wife passed. That's the character Pop is talking about, he is a character guy, a strong character guy, a diva.
He probably wanted someone fired for some beef and the Spurs said no, and he couldn't handle it.
Pop appreciates the guy, just don't want those characters here.

Wild speculation... Lmfao

[duncan2k5]

Most likely someone said he wasn’t worthy of the supermax, who also happened to be the person who signs the checks.

Yet money was thrown at Gasol, patty, and LMA... all of whom choked in the playoffs prior

[duncan2k5]

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GS
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
2P
2PA
2P%
eFG%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS


2015-16 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/aldrila01/gamelog/2016/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
30
SAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2016.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
PF
10
10
33.7
8.8
16.9
.521
0.2
0.2
1.000
8.6
16.7
.515
.527
4.1
4.6
.891
2.2
6.1
8.3
1.0
0.4
1.4
1.1
1.8
21.9


2016-17 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/aldrila01/gamelog/2017/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
31
SAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2017.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2017.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
PF
16
16
33.6
6.9
15.0
.458
0.1
0.9
.143
6.8
14.1
.478
.463
2.6
3.4
.764
2.7
4.8
7.4
1.5
0.6
1.0
1.8
2.6
16.5


2017-18 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/aldrila01/gamelog/2018/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
32
SAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2018.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
C
5
5
35.4
7.4
16.0
.463
0.6
1.0
.600
6.8
15.0
.453
.481
8.2
8.4
.976
2.6
6.6
9.2
2.4
0.6
0.4
1.8
1.8
23.6




Excluding the 17 season where we all know he wanted out, you obviously dont know what the fuck you're talking about (per par) because he didnt "struggle every year in the playoffs since coming"

Only idiots watch stats instead of games... The first playoffs the guy fell off a cliff after a great first couple games VS OKC... that's choking... If we consider harden choking because of his play in one game in a series, we have to say the same for LMA who choked in several games in that series...

[duncan2k5]

they never recovered the loss amount from going supermax to max...or whatever max he could get

then them endorsements like shoe deal, heb...or whatever crap he was earning on the side

For some ppl it isn't only about the money

[Rosewood]

quintuple post by duncan2k5 holy fucking shit my dude you must have something to prove

[Collins21]

Only idiots watch stats instead of games... The first playoffs the guy fell off a cliff after a great first couple games VS OKC... that's choking... If we consider harden choking because of his play in one game in a series, we have to say the same for LMA who choked in several games in that series...

Ok then must say Kawhi choked even Harden against the clippers and OKC the next year.

[Joseph Kony]

jesus this guy has kawhis balls draped over his eyes he cant see reality :lol makes a claim about LMA struggling w/ SA in the playoffs every year. stats posted to prove otherwise = "only idiots watch stats instead of games" :lmao apparently your dumbass aint watching either of them

[Mikeanaro]

Duncan2k5 is going too far, where no man has gone before.
Reminds me of this 2001 Space Oddisey scene

https://media.giphy.com/media/xKSktzllBHpiE/giphy.gif

[jehawk81]

Duncan2k5 is going too far, where no man has gone before.
Reminds me of this 2001 Space Oddisey scene

https://media.giphy.com/media/xKSktzllBHpiE/giphy.gif

Nigga, there's plenty playerfans that have gone there.. i.e. Apa, dabom & plenty others. This D2k5 guy is no trend setter, he a follower

[Mikeanaro]

Nigga, there's plenty playerfans that have gone there.. i.e. Apa, dabom & plenty others. This D2k5 guy is no trend setter, he a follower
Apa, Dabom, TGY are professional trolls, they laugh behind the screen.
This guy is riding Event Horizon.

[UnWantedTheory]

Nigga, there's plenty playerfans that have gone there.. i.e. Apa, dabom & plenty others. This D2k5 guy is no trend setter, he a follower
Those dudes are trolls, 2k5 is going full retard.

[Dejounte]

Petition to ban 2k5 please. Dude posts nothing but nonsense.....then comes back with "oh yOu JuST cANt hAndLe tHe TrUth!!". I wonder how old is this fucker.

[SouthTexasRancher]

I wonder if she will reconsider living in SA?

I understand she really likes it here. She says the people are very nice. I don't know if that will stand after Thursday night. All KaWhitter needed to do is explain what the hell happened. But, spending the year staying away from teammates at games didn't help. Especially to those of us who played team sports in the past. I don't think it had anything to do with Pop. If it was a teammate then they should have taken care of the problem behind closed doors. At this point I doubt we'll ever find out.

[picnroll]

duncan2k5 you are one dumb repetitive son of a bitch.

[offset formation]

I'm referring to the oft-hinted-at notion from timvp and Kori that Kawhi had a semi-legit beef with someone in the organization due to comment that person made. That beef was apparently so big that Kawhi told his teammates in the player's only meeting that he wouldn't give his all for the organization anymore. Had it been Pop he had issues with, it would have been easy to understand what happened. But if Leonard and Pop are close, then it really raises the question of who could more solidly define the Spurs organization than Pop and cancel out the good will between coach and player?

Did you watch the Danny Green episode he just filmed here with Rudy? It seems the players knew what went down. And it seems Rudy was disgusted by Kawhi's behavior in the aftermath of it such that he was going to be egging on the boos. He sounded like he wanted to beat Kawhi really bad. I dont know what happened but it seems his former teammates ain't having it. I'm sure they feel like they were abandoned by Kawhi.

All the more reason to praise what LA did for us last season.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ksat.com/sports/nba/spurs/rudy-gay-dishes-on-derozan-kawhi-deal-says-spurs-raptors-organizations-night-and-day

Rudy already on record that Kawhi just wanted a bigger market.

[RC_Drunkford]

So last year Kawhi was lying about everything... But now u chose to believe him? Lol... Funny how that works

Kawhi didn't even talk last year dumbo. Did he talk to you? You seem to be his Dwight Howard:lmao

[RD2191]

Kawhi didn't even talk last year dumbo. Did he talk to you? You seem to be his Dwight Howard:lmao

I talked to him, he said "fuck spurstalk" tbh

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I talked to him, he said "fuck spurstalk" tbh
Wet dreams don’t count.

[RD2191]

Wet dreams don’t count.

:lol

[Chinook]

Did you watch the Danny Green episode he just filmed here with Rudy? It seems the players knew what went down. And it seems Rudy was disgusted by Kawhi's behavior in the aftermath of it such that he was going to be egging on the boos. He sounded like he wanted to beat Kawhi really bad. I dont know what happened but it seems his former teammates ain't having it. I'm sure they feel like they were abandoned by Kawhi.

All the more reason to praise what LA did for us last season.

Think Gay is upset because last year is probably his best chance to win a ring, and Kawhi pissed it away. Part of me thinks Gay regrets opting out of his deal with Sacramento, even though I think he likes the Spurs and playing with DeRozan. Gay seemed the most upset to me when Danny was talking about how his future depended on Leonard (thought Green did walk that back after a bit). I don't know how Green feels about being in that trade, but I would guess that he and Rudy are tight, and Gay probably wasn't all that happy to see Danny go behind some bullshit someone else did.

[duncan2k5]

Ok then must say Kawhi choked even Harden against the clippers and OKC the next year.

But that's the point I'M trying to make... You're the one saying that his stats were good so he didn't choke, but we all acknowledge that choking is situational... The difference with Kawhi is that he wasn't a superstar until 2017..LMA was well within his prime... When Kawhi became the main guy and became a star, he was legit having the best playoff of anyone else in the league in 2017, and singlehandedly held Durant to six points while torching the warriors... Let's not change history and pretend as if he wasn't a fucking beast that year

[duncan2k5]

jesus this guy has kawhis balls draped over his eyes he cant see reality :lol makes a claim about LMA struggling w/ SA in the playoffs every year. stats posted to prove otherwise = "only idiots watch stats instead of games" :lmao apparently your dumbass aint watching either of them

Didnt we say harden chokes in tye playoffs? Dokt lie to protect your argument

[duncan2k5]

Think Gay is upset because last year is probably his best chance to win a ring, and Kawhi pissed it away. Part of me thinks Gay regrets opting out of his deal with Sacramento, even though I think he likes the Spurs and playing with DeRozan. Gay seemed the most upset to me when Danny was talking about how his future depended on Leonard (thought Green did walk that back after a bit). I don't know how Green feels about being in that trade, but I would guess that he and Rudy are tight, and Gay probably wasn't all that happy to see Danny go behind some bullshit someone else did.

Kawhibwas clearly injured ..we even WANTED him to sit when we saw how he played in the 9 games...now after the spurs sat him, we want to act as if he was faking? Yall are stupid as hell

[Chinook]

Kawhibwas clearly injured ..we even WANTED him to sit when we saw how he played in the 9 games...now after the spurs sat him, we want to act as if he was faking? Yall are stupid as hell

Bruh, the potential for your internet to go out is literally the only silver lining about a possible storm in the Caribbean. If you're going to continue to infest this forum with your shilling nonsense, at least try to stick to the topic. Nothing you said has any bearing on whether or why Gay has a beef with Leonard.

[duncan2k5]

Bruh, the potential for your internet to go out is literally the only silver lining about a possible storm in the Caribbean. If you're going to continue to infest this forum with your shilling nonsense, at least try to stick to the topic. Nothing you said has any bearing on whether or why Gay has a beef with Leonard.

If kawhi said he and gay are fine, then why are ppl on here saying otherwise? Why not address them? Arent they ignoring facts too?

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If kawhi said he and gay are fine, then why are ppl on here saying otherwise? Why not address them? Arent they ignoring facts too?

Did you watch the fucking video? I'm no body language expert, but it doesn't take one to hear him say the things he did and to see he was not having any Kawhi excuses.

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That hug photo vs the full interaction is so misleading. It’s a millisecond in time and caught Kawhi with his eyes closed head down. It wasn’t that emotional.