View Full Version : Spurs -1.5 favorites over Raptors tomorrow
Amuseddaysleeper
01-02-2019, 07:31 PM
With home court being the deciding factor
DPG21920
01-02-2019, 07:53 PM
With home court being the deciding factor
Makes sense. TOR has not been very good without Lowry. Even with Kawhi, they barely eeked out a win vs ORL, got destroyed another game and it took a career high from Kawhi to beat UTA.
SA is at home, playing well and unless Kawhi freaks out it’s hard to imagine TOR winning even though obviously it’s possible. But feels like a game Kawhi will have to get 30 in order to have a shot at winning and no team should know about stopping Kawhi more than SA.
HarlemHeat37
01-02-2019, 08:04 PM
Spurs should be favorites, Raptors are missing their 2nd best player and only playmaker..they've also been getting eaten up by bigs since Valenciunas went out, so Aldridge should feast..
Not to mention the Spurs have been an elite team at home..
Doesn't mean Spurs are going to win, but they're rightfully favored..
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01-02-2019, 08:17 PM
Bullshit line. Bet Toronto all day with that line
Rudy is the only guy who could possibly match up with Kawhi and that N is OUT
What crack are you smoking? Rudy is far from the best defensive player we can stick on Kawhi. His offense will be missed but GTFOH with that assertion. Besides that, it takes team D to beat his game.
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01-02-2019, 09:31 PM
Are you just a guy who looks at Box Scores and Checks for "GRADES" never watched or watche the game?
Rudy is the only spur on the Roster who can possibly physically match up with the most physical next to LeBron FORWARD in the NBA today. That is a FACT.
Also, Gay has done WORK head up against Kawhi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGJW9w6_A_I
For example.
As for TEAM D. I guess your drinin that Kool Aid but even you grader has pointed out the smoke and mirrors of the whichy Zone pop has implemented.
Didn't Harden JUST drop 39 on that "Team Defense"
It is a Cult of Corporate Knowlege for sure
Lol. You just busted out an 8 year old video of peak Rudy at his peak athleticism picking off rookie Kawhi to validate your point? Come on, brah.
As to whom defends Kawhi...not many can. That's why I said it would require team D. But Rudy certainly wouldn't have been Kawhi's prime defender. I'm sure Pop will run several defenders at him and double team him with players including White, Cunningham, Bertans, DeRozan, and Aldridge. Had Rudy been there, he would have been one too.
As for your dig on the Team D, they are a young and learning. But if you're trying to make a larger dig at Pops defensive schemes, then I pity you. He's only had top 3 defenses pretty much 75% of his tenure. Since December we've had the top 3 team defense. Rudy hasn't been a cog of that but he hasn't been a big lapse in it either.
TDMVPDPOY
01-02-2019, 09:36 PM
even with 3 extra guys on the court, dont see how the spurs going to win
unless lma plays like a real big...
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01-02-2019, 09:40 PM
what are you some twelve year old wanna be edge lord? Late Dude you're ignore I don't have time for autistic wanna be 12 year old edge lords
Yeah, 12. And you're the one talking about edge lords. And calling people autistic for pointing out an 8 year old debacle of a defense.
Newsflash, son, I don't have a clue what those are, lmao.
GTFOH pansy.
Get called out for a shit post. Check.
Put poster on ignore 2 posts later. Check.
phxspurfan
01-02-2019, 09:49 PM
Spurs by 20
Stabula
01-02-2019, 09:56 PM
what are you some twelve year old wanna be edge lord? Late Dude you're ignore I don't have time for autistic wanna be 12 year old edge lords
From one troll to another, you're fucking terrible.
Spurtacular
01-02-2019, 10:35 PM
Bullshit line. Bet Toronto all day with that line
Rudy is the only guy who could possibly match up with Kawhi and that N is OUT
You haven't been paying attention to how utterly mediocre the Raps have been on the road or how dominant the Spurs have been at home of late, have you?
Spurtacular
01-02-2019, 10:36 PM
From one troll to another, you're fucking terrible.
:lmao
Mr. Body
01-02-2019, 10:39 PM
If the Spurs aren't super up for this game, I don't know what to say.
TD 21
01-02-2019, 11:40 PM
Spurs should be favorites, Raptors are missing their 2nd best playerand only playmaker..they've also been getting eaten up by bigs since Valenciunas went out, so Aldridge should feast..
Not to mention the Spurs have been an elite team at home..
Doesn't mean Spurs are going to win, but they're rightfully favored..
Wright is arguably their best play maker and VanVleet and Siakam can also make plays.
Agree with the rest of your analysis and the bit about "if DeRozan doesn't try to take over the game".
The forward matchups are brutal though. It's going to have to be a Cunningham game and if it's close late, DeRozan will have to defend scumbag so that Bertans can close.
TimmyBuckets
01-03-2019, 12:29 AM
LMA will be the deciding factor, as always. Needs to be extra aggressive. Who can Toronto throw at him?
SpurSpike
01-03-2019, 12:57 AM
Everyone talking like Rudy is out but isn't he just "questionable"? Could still play.
playbonner15
01-03-2019, 01:23 AM
Rudy has a brace on his hand
RC_Drunkford
01-03-2019, 06:10 AM
lol @ thinking Ibaka can guard Aldridge when he's been Aldridge's bitch since 2012
Chinook
01-03-2019, 06:33 AM
Dunno what's going on with Drew, but he's giving out the DAF-esque takes when it comes to LMA. Apparently, Kawhi's become god to some fans. Dude isn't the powerhouse Lebron is nor does he have the freakish height of Durant or Giannis. He's very good at what he does, so no one is going to lock him down, but they don't need to freak out and put combo-forward size on him either. The Raptors play big enough to where starting Poeltl makes sense. Run Forbes, White, DeRozan, Aldridge and Poeltl. Start DeRozan on Leonard, Forbes on Green, White on FVV, Jakob on Siakam and Aldridge on Ibaka. Make sure one of the bigs is near the paint any time Leonard has the ball, and if Kawhi ever turns his back on White, have Derrick dig. Tell Bryn never to leave Green. The Raps likely counter by bringing Danny inside like they did against GS. This is fine, because Green shooting twos is better for the Spurs than anything Leonard's going to do.
Most important thing is that the Spurs don't get into foul trouble. No swiping down, no erratic close-outs. Making sure Aldridge and DeRozan are able to play 36-plus minutes is key. They also don't want to supplement what should be an inefficient-shooting night from Toronto by giving them free throws.
MoSpur02
01-03-2019, 07:22 AM
I'm more worried about Pascal going off than I am Kawhi.
Ragamuffin
01-03-2019, 08:25 AM
Some Trend Stats
Toronto
Raptors are 4-9 ATS in their last 13 games playing on 1 days rest.
Raptors are 3-7 ATS in their last 10 games following a straight up win.
Raptors are 3-7 ATS in their last 10 when their opponent allows 100 points or more in their previous game.
Raptors are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 games vs. a team with a winning straight up record.
Raptors are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 games overall.
Raptors are 1-5 ATS in their last 6 games following a ATS win.
Raptors are 1-5 ATS in their last 6 when their opponent scores 100 points or more in their previous game.
Raptors are 0-5 ATS in their last 5 after allowing 100 points or more in their previous game.
Raptors are 0-5 ATS in their last 5 road games.
Raptors are 0-5 ATS in their last 5 after scoring 100 points or more in their previous game.
San Antonio
Spurs are 6-0-1 ATS in their last 7 after allowing 100 points or more in their previous game.
Spurs are 6-0 ATS in their last 6 games vs. a team with a winning % above .600.
Spurs are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 when their opponent allows 100 points or more in their previous game.
Spurs are 5-1 ATS in their last 6 Thursday games.
Spurs are 5-1 ATS in their last 6 games following a ATS win.
Spurs are 5-1 ATS in their last 6 after scoring 100 points or more in their previous game.
Spurs are 13-3 ATS in their last 16 home games vs. a team with a winning road record.
Spurs are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games following a straight up win.
Spurs are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 home games vs. a team with a road winning % of greater than .600.
Spurs are 12-3-1 ATS in their last 16 games overall.
Spurs are 8-2 ATS in their last 10 vs. NBA Atlantic.
Spurs are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games playing on 2 days rest.
Spurs are 24-8 ATS in their last 32 home games.
Spurs are 15-5-1 ATS in their last 21 games vs. a team with a winning straight up record.
Spurs are 18-7-1 ATS in their last 26 when their opponent scores 100 points or more in their previous game.
Spurs are 5-2 ATS in their last 7 vs. Eastern Conference.
Head to Head
Raptors are 1-5 ATS in the last 6 meetings in San Antonio.
Raptors are 0-4 ATS in the last 4 meetings.
Spurs At Home last 10 plays 9win 1lost
Last matches: SAN ANTONIO SPURS
01.01.19
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Boston Celtics
120 : 111
27.12.18
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Denver Nuggets
111 : 103
22.12.18
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Minnesota Timberwolves
124 : 98
18.12.18
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Philadelphia 76ers
123 : 96
16.12.18
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Chicago Bulls
93 : 98
14.12.18
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Los Angeles Clippers
125 : 87
12.12.18
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Phoenix Suns
111 : 86
10.12.18
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Utah Jazz
110 : 97
08.12.18
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Los Angeles Lakers
133 : 120
03.12.18
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Portland Trail Blazers
131 : 118
Toronto Away Last 5 Plays 1 win 4 lost
Last matches: TORONTO RAPTORS
29.12.18
NBA
Orlando Magic
Toronto Raptors
116 : 87
27.12.18
NBA
Miami Heat
Toronto Raptors
104 : 106
23.12.18
NBA
Philadelphia 76ers
Toronto Raptors
126 : 101
17.12.18
NBA
Denver Nuggets
Toronto Raptors
95 : 86
15.12.18
NBA
Portland Trail Blazers
Toronto Raptors
128 : 122
Head to Head History Spurs has won last 9 plays at home with Toronto and has won 16 of 17 games at home
Head-to-head matches: SAN ANTONIO SPURS - TORONTO RAPTORS
24.10.17
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
101 : 97
04.01.17
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
110 : 82
03.04.16
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
102 : 95
11.03.15
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
117 : 107
24.12.13
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
112 : 99
27.12.12
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
100 : 80
20.01.11
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
104 : 95
10.11.09
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
131 : 124
21.12.08
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
107 : 97
29.12.07
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
73 : 83
27.02.07
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
107 : 91
24.12.05
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
95 : 90
03.03.05
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
92 : 86
18.12.03
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
73 : 70
02.11.02
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
91 : 72
13.12.01
NBA
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
108 : 95
Injures Report
Toronto
Kyle Lowry (back) is doubtful to play on Thursday in San Antonio.
Jonas Valanciunas (thumb) will miss at least another 3-4 weeks of action.
GM
Min
Pts
Reb
Ast
Stl
FGM
FGA
FG%
FTM
FTA
FT%
3PTM
3PTA
3PT%
Blk
TO
PPG
RPG
APG
SPG
TOPG
BPG
30
563
384
216
29
13
149
259
.575
77
94
.819
9
30
.300
23
39
12.8
7.2
1.0
0.4
1.3
0.8
Spurs injures report
Gregg Popovich was not optimistic when asked of Rudy Gay's (sore left wrist) chances of suiting up for Thursday's game against the Raptors.
Line Moves
My Local Book open odd 1.80 demical odd and drop to 1.75 and handicap from -1.5 drop to -2.5
GO SPURS GO
XDT76
01-03-2019, 08:42 AM
Wright is arguably their best play maker and VanVleet and Siakam can also make plays.
Agree with the rest of your analysis and the bit about "if DeRozan doesn't try to take over the game".
The forward matchups are brutal though. It's going to have to be a Cunningham game and if it's close late, DeRozan will have to defend scumbag so that Bertans can close.
I also think throwing Cunningham to body Kawhi and tired him out is one of the way. One of Pop's favourite tactics let their star player go iso and tired him out.
John B
01-03-2019, 08:46 AM
Spurs by 20. Kawhi will be booed every time he touches the ball
playbonner15
01-03-2019, 09:00 AM
I also think throwing Cunningham to body Kawhi and tired him out is one of the way. One of Pop's favourite tactics let their star player go iso and tired him out.
So that's the reason why Pop keeps playing Cunn before
boutons_deux
01-03-2019, 09:06 AM
KL stole $18M from the Spurs, fuck him, boo him.
sananspursfan21
01-03-2019, 09:20 AM
I guess I’m not understanding why so many posters think the Spurs don’t have a chance at all. Our guys have beaten the Celtics, Clippers, Nuggets, Rockets, and Lakers x3. What is the big hang up about the thought that the spurs could win this? I personally believe based on recent play they’ll win handily. Especially if there’s no Lowry. I say Spurs by 12, suckas.
ceperez
01-03-2019, 09:25 AM
Based on recents stats, looks like this could be a blowout!
Raptors are down to one decent big ( Ibaka ), so I expect Aldridge to beat them up down low.
Dunno what's going on with Drew, but he's giving out the DAF-esque takes when it comes to LMA. Apparently, Kawhi's become god to some fans. Dude isn't the powerhouse Lebron is nor does he have the freakish height of Durant or Giannis. He's very good at what he does, so no one is going to lock him down, but they don't need to freak out and put combo-forward size on him either. The Raptors play big enough to where starting Poeltl makes sense. Run Forbes, White, DeRozan, Aldridge and Poeltl. Start DeRozan on Leonard, Forbes on Green, White on FVV, Jakob on Siakam and Aldridge on Ibaka. Make sure one of the bigs is near the paint any time Leonard has the ball, and if Kawhi ever turns his back on White, have Derrick dig. Tell Bryn never to leave Green. The Raps likely counter by bringing Danny inside like they did against GS. This is fine, because Green shooting twos is better for the Spurs than anything Leonard's going to do.
Most important thing is that the Spurs don't get into foul trouble. No swiping down, no erratic close-outs. Making sure Aldridge and DeRozan are able to play 36-plus minutes is key. They also don't want to supplement what should be an inefficient-shooting night from Toronto by giving them free throws.
I like that starting lineup. I’m a bit worried Pop is gonna grow Cunningham back in the SL for this game. Hope I’m wrong though.
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