"..but giving up Danny Green was too much."

[look_at_g_shred]

Has anyone else heard this ridiculous take my the medial talking heads? First off let me say that I was an avid Danny Green fan and supporter since I joined here. Danny was never consistent on the offense side of things but he always had his defense to fall back on right? Or maybe that was just something I had implanted in my head to tell myself that on nights he was no where to be found. It wasn't until our recent resurgence back to the beautiful game, coupled with playing the raptors thursday night that I finally saw it. All the criticism of Danny's haters came to fruition. Green is such a liability on the offensive end. He's a stagnant black hole that ruins the rhythm of the team. It's so easy to guard a team with a player like green in the lineup. It's no wonder why we teams like GSW/OKC have always had their way. Especially on the road. This team does not miss him AT ALL. Going back to the point of this thread, have they not actually watch Danny Green play? I guess the reputation the spurs help him build is keeping his name afloat? But then again, what did he actually do to be considered "too much"

[Fusternino]

Lowry wasn't playing so I don't think our game against them was representative.

[TheGreatYacht]

He's been overrated for 3-4 years. I called it when it was the unpopular thing to do.

[exstatic]

He’s a better player when screamed at by Pop. Danny tends to drift, and needs his head snapped back from time to time.

[HarlemHeat37]

He's probably been the best perimeter role player in the NBA this season:lol

[look_at_g_shred]

So now we are halfway through the season. Considering the return we got, was giving up danny too much?

[TheGreatYacht]

He's probably been the best perimeter role player in the NBA this season:lol
:lol Not even better than Rudy Gay. Stop it.

[KDKSpurs24]

Danny was shaken by the return and tried too hard and shot horrible shots in the game against us. Last night he went 5-8 from 3 for 15 points. He’s shooting 40% from 3 and 93% from the line. We could use that plus the defense he always brings. DeRozan would be able to get him more open shots than he was getting last year. Still can’t dribble though haha

[Mugen]

Contract year Danny would have been an amazing fit on this team this year and the Spurs probably have a legit shot at the WCF.

Instead we couldn't pawn off Pau on them (who actually would have had a role this year with JV being out a long time) and RC gave Masai an extra 5mil in treat yo self money to boot :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Not even better than Rudy Gay. Stop it.

Rudy Gay isn't a role player, he's the clear #3 option every night..

[Mugen]

DWhite/Danny/Derozan/Gay/LMA
Fatty/Forbes/Beli/Bertans/Poetl

That's a top 3 seed in the West and they can probably take a few games from the Warriors in a series, but hey Danny was bad in his return in SA :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Danny Green just doesn't fit into our offense. We need players who can put the ball on the floor if defenders close out on them. Especially when passing out of post ups. His inconsistent 3-point shooting doesn't help there. Derrick White is also leagues better at fighting through picks, something Danny has been pretty bad at recently. He's still one of the best 3-and-D players, but I agree, we don't miss him at all

[Dex]

Danny was only valuable on offense (i.e. not a liability) when he was hitting his threes. Unfortunately, that has become less and less reliable over the last few years. There is a reason he was dubbed IcyHot.

I think the Spurs tried to mask this by trying to expand his offensive repertoire: adding the pump-fake and dribble drive, pulling up from mid-range, or passing out of the drive.

In retrospect, I'm not sure if that was the correct move. Sure, Danny was pretty much a one-trick pony...but he was damn good at that one trick. The more he tried to focus on other things...the less reliable his three-point shot seemed to become. If he was in a slump, the team suffered from Cunningham-itis.

Green was always a top-tier defender, and I still think the team misses his defense on the wing. Fortunately, Derrick White coming into his own has alleviated some of that pain. Once we get Murray back, our backcourt defense should be right where it needs to be.

[TimmyBuckets]

If he played like he did last few years, no. If he played like he's playing on raps now, yes.

[Dex]

From a trade standpoint, I do still think its outrageous that we had to sweeten the pot to move Kawhi...using another starting-caliber player, no less.

However, Kawhi did the Spurs no favors there by tanking his trade value, setting his sights on LA, and saying he would never play in Toronto. I'm sure the Raps pressed the "1 year-rental" factor when negotiating with the Spurs.

[Spurs Homer]

He's been overrated for 3-4 years. I called it when it was the unpopular thing to do.

lol

you hate the spurs, every player on the spurs, you hate pop, you hate rc, you hate spurs fans, spurs moves, spurs bench, spurs offense,


but love the shit out of the quitter/traitor

lol calling scoreboard

[look_at_g_shred]

DWhite/Danny/Derozan/Gay/LMA
Fatty/Forbes/Beli/Bertans/Poetl

That's a top 3 seed in the West and they can probably take a few games from the Warriors in a series, but hey Danny was bad in his return in SA :lol
Yea but you gotta remember White would barely be sniffing minutes if Danny was still here

[look_at_g_shred]

Contract year Danny would have been an amazing fit on this team this year and the Spurs probably have a legit shot at the WCF.

Instead we couldn't pawn off Pau on them (who actually would have had a role this year with JV being out a long time) and RC gave Masai an extra 5mil in treat yo self money to boot :lol
Let's not act like Green was money every game and when he wasn't on that our offense didn't look morbid. His defense? Sure maybe it is missed but since White's emergence and pop playing patty sparingly, it's not as big of a hit. The offense is so much better with him gone. Everyone on the team sans maybe Jakob can put the ball on the floor and make a play when being closed out.

[Chinook]

Giving up Green was too much from a pure value standpoint. He is a very good role-player on a good contract. From that perspective, yeah, the Spurs having to give him up over Mills, Toronto getting to send back their least important prospect and being able to protect their pick to an absurd level, and most importantly, the Spurs sending out cash to make the transaction-neutral just screams bad value. However, the Spurs don't usually care about value when making trades. They prepared for Green's departure with their recent draft picks. White isn't peak Green, and certainly isn't likely to be better for a while (if ever), but if what he's doing can be sustained to a reasonable extent, losing Green won't be a really big deal. It's likely to continue not being a big deal as Murray and Walker work their way into the rotation. For the first time in a while, guard is a strength for the Spurs. There are other things to smart over.

[DaBears]

Tell you what, Spurs can sign me for 150K per season, and i can lay a goose egg just like Danny did when raptors played the Spurs last week.. . I believe Danny G will always be a SPUR and i am a fan, but you can get more for your buck on the open market. Danny is a lock down defender or was, but ever since 2013 he has been inconsistent in his shooting.
Long live the Tarhill Triple

[Mugen]

I'm clearly in the White >>>>> Danny camp especially going forward.

But they would be playing two different roles this season, White as the facilitator and Danny as the spot up shooter 3/D guy that he in Toronto.

If you want to argue that Danny still being here would have hindered White's development then I buy that but if you think Pop is smart enough to realize that they are two different skillsets and can play together then it's a harder sell.

Danny struggled because the Spurs didn't have a viable perimeter playmaker last season that could get into the paint and dish out for open looks, they have that now in the SL with White and Derozan. I think Danny would have the same bounceback season, especially in a contract year.

Even without the benefit of seeing how well Danny would play this year and Pau being hurt, it was still pretty crazy that RC was unable to offload Gasol's shitty contract instead of Danny's great one AND give an extra 5 mil in cash....Toronto was getting a top 5 player in return and didn't have to give up their much valued young prospects in OG/Siakam

[look_at_g_shred]

I think it was a Pop/Rc doing Danny a favor tbh, I'm certain he's wanted out for a while now but unlike was pretty profesh about it. You can tell as soon as the trade was announced, Danny posted on IG about being in Toronto and he couldn't wait to get started. It just seemed like pop was like you finally get your wish. It was a thank you in a weird way for being pop's whipping boy. My theory lol

[sasaint]

I'm clearly in the White >>>>> Danny camp especially going forward.

But they would be playing two different roles this season, White as the facilitator and Danny as the spot up shooter 3/D guy that he in Toronto.

If you want to argue that Danny still being here would have hindered White's development then I buy that but if you think Pop isn't smart enough to realize that they are two different skillsets and can play together then it's a harder sell.

Danny struggled because the Spurs didn't have a viable perimeter playmaker last season that could get into the paint and dish out for open looks, they have that now in the SL with White and Derozan. I think Danny would have the same bounceback season, especially in a contract year.

Even without the benefit of seeing how well Danny would play this year and Pau being hurt, it was still pretty crazy that RC was unable to offload Gasol's shitty contract instead of Danny's great one AND give an extra 5 mil in cash....Toronto was getting a top 5 player in return and didn't have to give up their much valued young prospects in OG/Siakam

Fify. Seems like I heard 2 other tidbits that you might want to address. One: that Pop actually wanted to move Danny, and Two: Pop actually wanted Poodle rather than OG/Siakam. You buy either of those "rumors"?

[pad300]

I'm clearly in the White >>>>> Danny camp especially going forward.

But they would be playing two different roles this season, White as the facilitator and Danny as the spot up shooter 3/D guy that he in Toronto.

If you want to argue that Danny still being here would have hindered White's development then I buy that but if you think Pop is smart enough to realize that they are two different skillsets and can play together then it's a harder sell.

Danny struggled because the Spurs didn't have a viable perimeter playmaker last season that could get into the paint and dish out for open looks, they have that now in the SL with White and Derozan. I think Danny would have the same bounceback season, especially in a contract year.

Even without the benefit of seeing how well Danny would play this year and Pau being hurt, it was still pretty crazy that RC was unable to offload Gasol's shitty contract instead of Danny's great one AND give an extra 5 mil in cash....Toronto was getting a top 5 player in return and didn't have to give up their much valued young prospects in OG/Siakam

I agree with this, with the exception that the third alternative to Green and Pau in the trade, is of course, Mills... If the Raps were insistent on Green, we should have gotten another (SF) prospect back.

[jsandiego]

The NBA made it almost impossible to play defense this year. Scoring is way up, perimeter fouls are up, 3 point attempt fouls are up. Great defensive perimeter players like Green & Kawhi are more neutralized now. I'd rather have someone that can put the ball on the floor and shoots 3s. They integrate well into today's NBA.

I love Danny and he's talented, but his skill set is neutered with how the games are officiated now.

[Fireball]

considering how Poeltl is panning out after a rough start I tend to disagree with the media

[DAF86]

Sure, take one game of sample size instead of the entire season. :lol

[8FOR!3]

He's having a really good year he just happened to have a bad game against us. Although losing him didn't hurt us too much just because I don't think he would have produced like this for us this year, he has been declining with the Spurs the past few years. Change of scenery was great for him and well needed.

[Mugen]

Fify. Seems like I heard 2 other tidbits that you might want to address. One: that Pop actually wanted to move Danny, and Two: Pop actually wanted Poodle rather than OG/Siakam. You buy either of those "rumors"?

1) Yeah i think the Spurs have wanted to move off Danny for a while. I buy that the Spurs have been going guard heavy the last few drafts to prepare for his eventual departure. Still, his contract is really, really good and could have been used as a valuable trading chip last summer and up to this year's deadline. Danny w/1 year left at a lower salary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pau and his 2 years even with a partial guarantee

2) Maybe but I doubt it. Jak had a nice year last year but he was still behind OG/Siakam as a prospect. I'm almost 99% sure that RC asked for those two guys first before settling on Jakob (especially with LMA/Pau and Militinov's rights). If RC/Pop really did prefer Poetl over the other guys then that's an entirely different discussion on what the hell the FO was thinking :lol

[superbigtime]

Contract year Danny would have been an amazing fit on this team this year and the Spurs probably have a legit shot at the WCF.

Instead we couldn't pawn off Pau on them (who actually would have had a role this year with JV being out a long time) and RC gave Masai an extra 5mil in treat yo self money to boot :lol

Yes! people never mention that $. .. $5 mill!

[Mugen]

Yeah I also buy the argument that a change of scenery was good for Danny. I don't think he holds any ill will against PATFO but he probably feels a lot more free now with the Raptors as they are probably treating him with kid gloves over there to make sure Kawhi stays...

He's able to do his podcast now and probably can be a lot more open with the media (tho he was pretty open with the Spurs).

It also probably feels good to not get chewed out and yanked by Pop after every mistake, while Red Carpet Patty and Escort Bryn are giving every guy they guard an RSVP to the bucket every time down the court :lol

[R. DeMurre]

Two weeks ago, there were a bunch of people saying the Spurs needed to tank the season, and that Derrick White sucked.

I loved watching Danny play and grow as a Spur. Hell, if the Spurs grab one more specific rebound in 2013 we might be saying Danny Green, Finals MVP.


But I think it was time. The Spurs drafted two combo guards and a SG in three consecutive seasons, and it was time to start incorporating them.
There were times last year when Green's inability to handle the ball paired with Kyle Anderson's reluctance to shoot made the Spurs a very flawed team. Think about how many other starting SGs in the league never bring the ball up court... it's pretty unusual. Even Mills and Forbes, who are SGs in PG bodies have adapted to it, and it certainly won't be an issue going forward with Walker, Murray, or White. In the modern NBA, handling the ball is kind of like defensive switching-- you'd like as many guys as possible to do it. When the Warriors played the Death Lineup, their PF and C could bring the ball up.

That being said, I always thought he was a quality player with great character, and I'm glad he's having a bounce back year in Toronto.

[exstatic]

Yes! people never mention that $. .. $5 mill!

What forum are you reading? That offset money for Kawhis trade kicker comes up CONSTANTLY.

[R. DeMurre]

Also, props once again to the scouting of the Spurs: Green was waived by the Cavs as a rookie 2nd rounder, and then went on to have a successful Bruce Bowen-like career.

[exstatic]

I think the Spurs had witnessed the multi year slide in his effectiveness, and were staring paying a 32 YO Danny Green next summer right in the face, and took a hard pass.

[spurraider21]

DWhite/Danny/Derozan/Gay/LMA
Fatty/Forbes/Beli/Bertans/Poetl

That's a top 3 seed in the West and they can probably take a few games from the Warriors in a series, but hey Danny was bad in his return in SA :lol
imagine what the D could have been in a small lineup with murray/white/danny/kawhi/lma tbh

[look_at_g_shred]

Sure, take one game of sample size instead of the entire season. :lol
It's not the 1 game sample size i'm taking into consideration. It's the fact that Green had too many games like that for us and it costed us wins. I mean how do y'all not remember that?

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I'd trade him for Marco...that's about it. I like the way this group is coming together.

[superbigtime]

What forum are you reading? That offset money for Kawhis trade kicker comes up CONSTANTLY.

No it doesn't. I'm here all the time and it is scarcely mentioned.

[Joseph Kony]

imo Danny and Spurs needed to separate. He would not be playing anywhere near this level had he stayed in SA and a change of scenery in his contract year was the best thing for both sides. had he been playing like he was this season for the last 3 years, Spurs would have never traded him

[look_at_g_shred]

imo Danny and Spurs needed to separate. He would not be playing anywhere near this level had he stayed in SA and a change of scenery in his contract year was the best thing for both sides. had he been playing like he was this season for the last 3 years, Spurs would have never traded him
Thank you!

[hater]

He's been overrated for 3-4 years. I called it when it was the unpopular thing to do.

One trick pony

Called dat shit :tu

[bklynspursfan]

DWhite/Danny/Derozan/Gay/LMA
Fatty/Forbes/Beli/Bertans/Poetl

That's a top 3 seed in the West and they can probably take a few games from the Warriors in a series, but hey Danny was bad in his return in SA :lol
Cause they probably envisioned a Murray/White/DeRozan/Gay/LMA lineup, which might be just as good, if not better.

[sasaint]

1) Yeah i think the Spurs have wanted to move off Danny for a while. I buy that the Spurs have been going guard heavy the last few drafts to prepare for his eventual departure. Still, his contract is really, really good and could have been used as a valuable trading chip last summer and up to this year's deadline. Danny w/1 year left at a lower salary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pau and his 2 years even with a partial guarantee

2) Maybe but I doubt it. Jak had a nice year last year but he was still behind OG/Siakam as a prospect. I'm almost 99% sure that RC asked for those two guys first before settling on Jakob (especially with LMA/Pau and Militinov's rights). If RC/Pop really did prefer Poetl over the other guys then that's an entirely different discussion on what the hell the FO was thinking :lol

Completely agree on Danny. Poor use of a good trade chip. Poodle... I can see it, but when I heard that spin it just took me way off-guard. He shows signs of being our starter of the future. If that's what he perceived, then I can see Pop might want Poodle when we had slightly-post-prime LMA and ancient Gasol as our only two bigs. It sure left the cupboard bare of SFs, which is just inexplicable, though. I really, really want us to make a move to acquire a legit SF with Bird rights for the future. I am keeping my fingers crossed that THIS is the year when Pop actually makes a significant move before the deadline. I believe that route heavily outweighs any reason for hanging on to Gasol.

[Dancelot]

Cause they probably envisioned a Murray/White/DeRozan/Gay/LMA lineup, which might be just as good, if not better.
I can’t wait till next season, looking forward to seeing this lineup (of course if gay resigns)

[Keepin' it real]

B-b-but transition defense. :cry

/ thread

[ginobilized]

I think that both Danny and Tony might’ve grown deaf to Pop.
It’s hard to hear the same voice over and over again saying the same things.
The current squad is devouring the coaching and that’s best for the team.
Danny’s time was up. TP too. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

[TDMVPDPOY]

green wont be playing like this on the spurs

look at how many times last 3 years did he had so many opportunities to improve his game, but it never improved from learning how to fkn dribble the ball, score from inside or even damn layups/floaters

he became shit when he change his number jersey

[hater]

I think that both Danny and Tony might’ve grown deaf to Pop.
It’s hard to hear the same voice over and over again saying the same things.
The current squad is devouring the coaching and that’s best for the team.
Danny’s time was up. TP too. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

Manures time was 5 years ago but thats another story tbqh

[K...]

The Spurs expected Danny to opt out and get money they wouldn't spend. How much will Danny get next year? Whatever it is the Spurs wanted to avoid it, wanted him to opt out.


He was basically persona non grata after opting in. Didn't fit the plan, even before we got a big minute sg in DeRozan. It's hindsight with white playing well, but Murray made him expendable. Murray and Danny and DeRozan would be a sad offense (although DeRozan and green would probably mesh).

[SpurPadre]

lol

you hate the spurs, every player on the spurs, you hate pop, you hate rc, you hate spurs fans, spurs moves, spurs bench, spurs offense,


but love the shit out of the quitter/traitor

lol calling scoreboard

He also loves teammate wife fucker, tbh.

[DPG21920]

Yes! people never mention that $. .. $5 mill!

They never mention it because it has zero impact on basketball or anything of note.

[SpurPadre]

The only thing I didn't like about LDN was when he went out of his way to suck LeBron off at a club after we choked in '13, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

I will admit that his defense no longer became good enough to make up for his offensive limitations as far as a starting SG in the Western Conference the last couple of years he was in San Antonio. However, it isn't as glaring as how Forbes' offense still isn't good enough to keep justifying his spot as a starting guard now given his putrid (though slightly less worse) defense. At least Pop has lowered his minutes and usage though.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Yea but you gotta remember White would barely be sniffing minutes if Danny was still here

Because Danny is a PG? Please! White's recent play, if sustained at decent level will create at least some controversy about who should be the starting PG next year. Those minutes would have likely come from Beli, Forbes and Mills; more so than White.

[superbigtime]

They never mention it because it has zero impact on basketball or anything of note.

or they are ignorant of the fact. disagree that giving away $5mill is irrelevant.

[DPG21920]

or they are ignorant of the fact. disagree that giving away $5mill is irrelevant.

Please explain how giving cash in trade impacts anything on the court.

[timtonymanu]

I mean I still think it holds true. Thankfully Derrick White has evolved cause he makes the loss of Danny easier to swallow. And tbh people on here were saying the first few weeks that letting go of Danny was a huge mistake. We could have been wishing for him right now if White wasn’t a factor. I’d rather have Green than Belinelli and he’s a more reliable playoff performer compared to Bryn who is still unproven.

Also like Muge said, he would have been a better fit on this year’s roster compared to the last 2 seasons. He excelled in the beautiful game system after all.

[Chinook]

or they are ignorant of the fact. disagree that giving away $5mill is irrelevant.

It does get brought up from time to time. But there isn't any reason to keep harping on it. Obviously, Kawhi and DeRozan and how they perform affects the view of the trade. Ditto for the other two in the deal and for the guys who either could have been in the deal or filled in for the traded guys. The pick hasn't been conveyed yet, so we're going to talk about it. The $5 Million? Not so much. It matters in the sense that SA can't really send out cash as part of any other trade this year. But beyond that, it's just a curious footnote.

[MannyIsGod]

Kawhi put the Spurs in an incredibly shit position so they had zero leverage in the trade. DeMar has been better than anyone here expected. Poetl has been better than anyone expected (especially without Manu). If I had to choose one of Green or Mills to be a vet mentor to the young guards, I'm going to go with Mills. I don't think Danny would have had nearly as good a season as a Spur as he's having as a Raptor. I just don't see the point of re-litigating the trade at this point. Would I prefer to have given up less? Sure, but I honestly don't give a fuck about the 5 million dollars. That's not my money and it does nothing for the cap.


I'm loving the way this team is turning out. I'd welcome back Danny at a cheap price, tho.

[hater]

Speak for yourself manny

I said Derozan was an awesome trade

Called dat shit :tu

[GreekSpursfan]

Spurs wanted to get an all star out of this deal and the only way to do it was to give up Danny as well. I'm certain that this was the best deal available because i believe in Pop. People that have lost faith in him can say otherwise.

[Stabula]

Danny Green has been garbage on both ends for at least two years now. Sure once a game he'd have his signature chase down block but overall his defense loosened and his marksmanship nose dived.

[look_at_g_shred]

Tonight’s the type of game where green would’ve gone 1/6 and we lose by 15. Tell me I’m wrong. You can’t you know why? Because I’ve followed this team to long to know that statement holds water.

[HankChinaski]

I like Green, but when you have the players that are currently performing taking his minutes now with him gone. People should be at least satisfied with how the trade is turning out.

Green could have a role in this current roster with guys like DeMar an White creating open looks along with LA. Defense could be a bit more stout with his presence.

But when he isn't hitting those 3s his contribution drops significantly.

[DAF86]

Cause they probably envisioned a Murray/White/DeRozan/Gay/LMA lineup, which might be just as good, if not better.

Nah, Murray can't hit threes nor defend at Danny's level yet.

[TheGreatYacht]

Danny G-League isn't even the best player in his family :lol His cousin Gerald is playing better...

[Mikeanaro]

Nothing actually, media idiots need to say something to fill the show.

[TDMVPDPOY]

problem with green, he stop improving after so many years

pops barking in his ear goes out the other ear has no affect on him

would he still be the same player for the raptors in a spurs jersey say patfo didnt add him part of the package while getting rid of enrique, wheres that enrique gif staring at green through the time out huddle

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Danny was injured last season, a healthy Danny would flourish in SA this season

[Mikeanaro]

Danny was injured last season, a healthy Danny would flourish in SA this season
So he had 3 terrible years in a row, but that last one was going to give us the new MJ.
Well now is healthy he can bloomingdale in Toronto all he wants.

[cjw]

Contract year Danny would have been an amazing fit on this team this year and the Spurs probably have a legit shot at the WCF.

Instead we couldn't pawn off Pau on them (who actually would have had a role this year with JV being out a long time) and RC gave Masai an extra 5mil in treat yo self money to boot :lol

Had they pawned off Pau instead given Poeltl was coming back, this roster would have looked a lot different as Green would have fit like a glove.

First off, one of Cunningham or Pondexter would have likely been replaced with another big to backup Aldridge until Poeltl was ready. Maybe we couldn’t have predicted he’d be contributing this quickly, but that big would be relegated to rest days.

Danny would also allow a lot more of Gay and Bertans at the 4.

Danny’s shooting and defense would have both been positives. Pau is redundant as long as there’s no injury.

[ragas]

Two: Pop actually wanted Poodle rather than OG/Siakam. You buy either of those "rumors"?



2) Maybe but I doubt it. Jak had a nice year last year but he was still behind OG/Siakam as a prospect. I'm almost 99% sure that RC asked for those two guys first before settling on Jakob (especially with LMA/Pau and Militinov's rights). If RC/Pop really did prefer Poetl over the other guys then that's an entirely different discussion on what the hell the FO was thinking :lol

One thought about Poeltl: You can't teach BB-IQ, but you can teach all the other things and you can bulk up. There are not many bigs in the NBA that can do in the Spurs system, what Poeltl brings to the table.

[Chinook]

Tonight’s the type of game where green would’ve gone 1/6 and we lose by 15. Tell me I’m wrong. You can’t you know why? Because I’ve followed this team to long to know that statement holds water.

You're wrong.

[look_at_g_shred]

You're wrong.
http://i65.tinypic.com/2ryq45w.png Am i? Hey but that 1 steal!! And -20 sheesh

[Amuseddaysleeper]

http://i65.tinypic.com/2ryq45w.png Am i? Hey but that 1 steal!! And -20 sheesh

He was injured a majority of last season

[Mugen]

So no mention of Kawhi and LMA shooting like shit as opposed to Demar/LMA going off last night? Not to mention the Spurs PG last night didn't waddle around the court to a tune of 4 points :lol

[Chinook]

http://i65.tinypic.com/2ryq45w.png Am i? Hey but that 1 steal!! And -20 sheesh

Hit half his threes and you're complaining?

[look_at_g_shred]

Hit half his threes and you're complaining?
Look back at my point that you disagreed with. I was right.

[superbigtime]

Please explain how giving cash in trade impacts anything on the court.

It doesn't. Never said otherwise.

[Chinook]

Look back at my point that you disagreed with. I was right.

You're comparing a game last year where everyone played poorly (one of those games where Kawhi "gave it a go" and messed up the flow of the offense) to say the same would happen this year, even though the team has a more active Aldridge and a healthy DeRozan instead of a hobbled and disgruntled Leonard. Doesn't make sense. Green shot reasonably well in that game

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't think anybody would deny that Green was horrendous last year.. I'm one of his biggest fans here, but it was a good idea for the Spurs to move on from him(although I don't think they should have just gave him away), he didn't fit well with Aldridge-ball and the lack of playmaking options..

I think he would have been much better with White and DeRozan around him, though..replace Belinelli with Green and this team would be even better(that wasn't the trade-off that actually occurred, but just using it as an example)..

Regardless, it doesn't matter, the Spurs are playing like an elite team and Green is doing much better in Toronto, worked out for both parties..

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Aside from the discussion of it's a good or bad trade. Danny was a little comfortable here, and also Pop was with him. The change is fitting both.