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Degoat
02-02-2019, 10:57 AM
It’s unlikely but I saw some articles saying Aaron Gordon is being shopped around, id love to see him traded to the spurs
RC_Drunkford
02-02-2019, 11:03 AM
It’s unlikely but I saw some articles saying Aaron Gordon is being shopped around, id love to see him traded to the spurs
get him. I just don't see the Spurs having anything of value except for the Raptors pick. What would the package be? Pau, Forbes and the Raptors pick? That doesn't sound like a good deal at all.
But then again, what exactly is Orlando looking for? I mean it seems like they try to trade everybody and cap space doesn't help them cause no big time free agent wants to sign with the Magic
R. DeMurre
02-02-2019, 11:32 AM
get him. I just don't see the Spurs having anything of value except for the Raptors pick. What would the package be? Pau, Forbes and the Raptors pick? That doesn't sound like a good deal at all.
But then again, what exactly is Orlando looking for? I mean it seems like they try to trade everybody and cap space doesn't help them cause no big time free agent wants to sign with the Magic
Orlando is a mess. They historically don't develop players very well-- guys like Oladipo & Tobias Harris improved dramatically after leaving. They don't draft well, and haven't hit a home run in the draft in over a decade of mostly lottery picks.
The only guy that seems to have actually developed into something is Vucevic, who is a legit all star this year, and now it looks like they're on the fence about keeping him. All of Vucevic's numbers this year are incredible-- traditional stats, advanced stats, +/-, etc... My bet is they don't trade him, and he leaves this summer in free agency as the best under-the-radar non-max contract move for some team.
mo7888
02-02-2019, 11:45 AM
get him. I just don't see the Spurs having anything of value except for the Raptors pick. What would the package be? Pau, Forbes and the Raptors pick? That doesn't sound like a good deal at all.
But then again, what exactly is Orlando looking for? I mean it seems like they try to trade everybody and cap space doesn't help them cause no big time free agent wants to sign with the Magic
Zach Lowe hinted that the spurs might go after Gordon but, he didn't explain how. I think that's where the gordon stuff is coming from.
Degoat
02-02-2019, 11:49 AM
get him. I just don't see the Spurs having anything of value except for the Raptors pick. What would the package be? Pau, Forbes and the Raptors pick? That doesn't sound like a good deal at all.
But then again, what exactly is Orlando looking for? I mean it seems like they try to trade everybody and cap space doesn't help them cause no big time free agent wants to sign with the Magic
im not sure what we’d offer but say the spurs did offer both first round picks that would be really valuable to them, 1st round picks are worth a hell of a lot to teams, Throw in pau too.magic get 2 picks and save some money. I doubt it happens though, I sense the spurs wanna hold onto their picks
mo7888
02-02-2019, 12:01 PM
im not sure what we’d offer but say the spurs did offer both first round picks that would be really valuable to them, 1st round picks are worth a hell of a lot to teams, Throw in pau too.magic get 2 picks and save some money. I doubt it happens though, I sense the spurs wanna hold onto their picks
I do think pau + both picks + filler would get it done. I'm not sure I'd pay that but I might...
TDMVPDPOY
02-02-2019, 12:05 PM
spurs need to dump dd, mills, paus contract...
Jules_Winnfield
02-02-2019, 12:06 PM
Orlando is a mess. They historically don't develop players very well-- guys like Oladipo & Tobias Harris improved dramatically after leaving. They don't draft well, and haven't hit a home run in the draft in over a decade of mostly lottery picks.
The only guy that seems to have actually developed into something is Vucevic, who is a legit all star this year, and now it looks like they're on the fence about keeping him. All of Vucevic's numbers this year are incredible-- traditional stats, advanced stats, +/-, etc... My bet is they don't trade him, and he leaves this summer in free agency as the best under-the-radar non-max contract move for some team.
Mavs will probably unload Barnes and go hard after Vuc. They have zero rebounding.
Doncic
Hardaway
Finney-Smith
Porzingis
Vucevic
cd021
02-02-2019, 12:09 PM
I do think pau + both picks + filler would get it done. I'm not sure I'd pay that but I might...
2 picks for Aaron Gordon is way too much tbh. 2 firsts (especially ones that are so close to the actual draft where it is clearer where those picks might land) are too valuable in today's NBA.
I think the Spurs might be interested but more in the window shopping kinda way.
RC_Drunkford
02-02-2019, 12:20 PM
I do think pau + both picks + filler would get it done. I'm not sure I'd pay that but I might...
I 'd rather offer Toronto pick and Spurs 2020 pick. I mean if we draft a SF this year we'd have Murray, White, Walker, 2019 pick, Poeltl, Metu, Bertans and Gordon is only 23. That would actually make ton of sense and Gordon's salary actually goes down for the next 4 seasons.
Dverde
02-02-2019, 12:21 PM
2 picks for Aaron Gordon is way too much tbh. 2 firsts (especially ones that are so close to the actual draft where it is clearer where those picks might land) are too valuable in today's NBA.
I think the Spurs might be interested but more in the window shopping kinda way.
This board is full of a bunch of dried up pussys. We don’t need two low end picks right now. These low picks are not NBA ready and have to be developed over years. Demar and LMA got maybe two prime years left. Not a fan of Aaron Gordon, but the idea of trading our garbage contract Gasol with two low end picks is not ludicrous. Spurs won’t do it because Gasol’s f’ing feeling may be hurt. They’ll waive and stretch him per the original plan from two years ago.
vavvi
02-02-2019, 12:22 PM
Toronto pick, a 2nd, an exciting young cheap starter of a western playoff team named Bryn Forbes and Pau’s contract. That’s a solid offer if you’re dealing with a franchise like Magic.
2 first rounders is way too much
Degoat
02-02-2019, 12:22 PM
I wouldn't offer that. Maybe Toronto pick and Spurs 2020 pick. I mean if we draft a SF this year we'd have Murray, White, Walker, 2019 pick, Poeltl, Metu, Bertans and Gordon is only 23. I could see that
That would be pretty sweet to have a line up of Murray white, DeMar, Gordon, LA. With Rudy, Davis, and walker subbing in
Leetonidas
02-02-2019, 12:29 PM
Gordon sucks. He's soft and inconsistent. I don't think we need an overpaid PF that doesn't play defense. His raw numbers are nothing eye popping, which is even more disappointing because he plays on a bad team and has the greenlight, and his advanced stats are pretty unflattering. Not a great shooter, not great at the line, ok rebounder for his position. He does pass decently but it's not enough. Hard pass.
ST always has an infatuation with names over actual fit and need. I mean wtf do we need PGs or PFs for? Spurs need SFs period.
Leetonidas
02-02-2019, 12:32 PM
This board is full of a bunch of dried up pussys. We don’t need two low end picks right now. These low picks are not NBA ready and have to be developed over years. Demar and LMA got maybe two prime years left. Not a fan of Aaron Gordon, but the idea of trading our garbage contract Gasol with two low end picks is not ludicrous. Spurs won’t do it because Gasol’s f’ing feeling may be hurt. They’ll waive and stretch him per the original plan from two years ago.
I think you are way out of touch bro, you're massively undervaluing how teams see first rounders
sasaint
02-02-2019, 12:34 PM
Gordon sucks. He's soft and inconsistent. I don't think we need an overpaid PF that doesn't play defense. His raw numbers are nothing eye popping, which is even more disappointing because he plays on a bad team and has the greenlight, and his advanced stats are pretty unflattering. Not a great shooter, not great at the line, ok rebounder for his position. He does pass decently but it's not enough. Hard pass.
ST always has an infatuation with names over actual fit and need. I mean wtf do we need PGs or PFs for? Spurs need SFs period.
Heartily endorse! :tu
vavvi
02-02-2019, 12:35 PM
Gordon sucks. He's soft and inconsistent. I don't think we need an overpaid PF that doesn't play defense. His raw numbers are nothing eye popping, which is even more disappointing because he plays on a bad team and has the greenlight, and his advanced stats are pretty unflattering. Not a great shooter, not great at the line, ok rebounder for his position. He does pass decently but it's not enough. Hard pass.
ST always has an infatuation with names over actual fit and need. I mean wtf do we need PGs or PFs for? Spurs need SFs period.
So he can’t play wing?
fuck him then ))) I’m calling the cheap exciting starter of western playoff team named Forbes offer off the table
vavvi
02-02-2019, 12:36 PM
Orlando is one of the most unwatchable franchises through the last 5 years or so. Kudos to those who watched a lot of Gordon
Gordon sucks. He's soft and inconsistent. I don't think we need an overpaid PF that doesn't play defense. His raw numbers are nothing eye popping, which is even more disappointing because he plays on a bad team and has the greenlight, and his advanced stats are pretty unflattering. Not a great shooter, not great at the line, ok rebounder for his position. He does pass decently but it's not enough. Hard pass.
ST always has an infatuation with names over actual fit and need. I mean wtf do we need PGs or PFs for? Spurs need SFs period.
Truth bomb. I'd rather bring Simmons back.
Dverde
02-02-2019, 12:46 PM
I think you are way out of touch bro, you're massively undervaluing how teams see first rounders
Silly me wants to raise banners in San Antonio instead of Austin. Good luck with picks 20 and 26.
RC_Drunkford
02-02-2019, 12:48 PM
Gordon sucks. He's soft and inconsistent. I don't think we need an overpaid PF that doesn't play defense. His raw numbers are nothing eye popping, which is even more disappointing because he plays on a bad team and has the greenlight, and his advanced stats are pretty unflattering. Not a great shooter, not great at the line, ok rebounder for his position. He does pass decently but it's not enough. Hard pass.
ST always has an infatuation with names over actual fit and need. I mean wtf do we need PGs or PFs for? Spurs need SFs period.
Gordon is a SF. SF and PF there's not a big difference right now between the 2. He's mobile enough to play the 3. The guy is only 23 and is locked up for 4 years with decreasing salary. In 21/22 he'll earn 16 million. Playing for the Spurs would do wonders for his development and he fits the timeline of our young core while also filling a need right now
DPG21920
02-02-2019, 01:16 PM
Truth bomb. I'd rather bring Simmons back.
FKLA - Simmons sucks bro. It truly was an amazing story and he had a lot of good moments. But he’s a below average player and has no place in SA lineup.
RC_Drunkford
02-02-2019, 01:24 PM
Terrence Ross seems to be available for 2 2nd rounders. I'd like the Spurs to take a chance on that deal
DPG21920
02-02-2019, 01:26 PM
Terrence Ross seems to be available for 2 2nd rounders. I'd like the Spurs to take a chance on that deal
If they would take Mills for him I would give them TOR first.
Chinook
02-02-2019, 01:29 PM
Gordon is a SF. SF and PF there's not a big difference right now between the 2. He's mobile enough to play the 3. The guy is only 23 and is locked up for 4 years with decreasing salary. In 21/22 he'll earn 16 million. Playing for the Spurs would do wonders for his development and he fits the timeline of our young core while also filling a need right now
What happened is that PFs became centers and SFs are playing PF. PFs didn't starting playing the three. You can argue that Gordon makes sense as a power-forward, but he isn't an answer at the three. I do think folks are hating on him too much and that he could be good for the Spurs. But the things that have prevented him from playing the three so far in his career are still there. Two firsts is a whole lot to give up for a guy who isn't going to be a core piece going forward.
John B
02-02-2019, 01:38 PM
6’9”, 7 wingspan with 35% 3pt percentage, 16pts 8rbs. A little low on the 3pt% but has physicality to guard a LeBron/Davis. He checks out what Spurs need, young and cheap, and can still develop. I’d give Pau, 2 1st rounds to secure him. Come on RC!
mo7888
02-02-2019, 01:46 PM
I 'd rather offer Toronto pick and Spurs 2020 pick. I mean if we draft a SF this year we'd have Murray, White, Walker, 2019 pick, Poeltl, Metu, Bertans and Gordon is only 23. That would actually make ton of sense and Gordon's salary actually goes down for the next 4 seasons.
I think Orlando would do that..
Chinook
02-02-2019, 01:58 PM
6’9”, 7 wingspan with 35% 3pt percentage, 16pts 8rbs. A little low on the 3pt% but has physicality to guard a LeBron/Davis. He checks out what Spurs need, young and cheap, and can still develop. I’d give Pau, 2 1st rounds to secure him. Come on RC!
Spurs have guys to guard James already, and Gordon isn't checking Davis better than Aldridge does.
Bellboy
02-02-2019, 01:59 PM
Pau’s expiring contract, Milutinov rights, Toronto 2019 1st, Spurs 2019 2nd and throw in filler for Gordon and Bamba
Leetonidas
02-02-2019, 02:39 PM
Ok, I said Gordon sucks but obviously I don't mean he's complete trash. He's young and does have upside but there are for more intriguing prospects to consider than an overpaid (Imo), soft, inconsistent tweener who isn't particularly good at anything besides dunking. Obviously he can always turn out better in the spurs system but still. He may be able to play at the 3 but like Rudy in today's NBA he is definitely a 4
RC_Drunkford
02-02-2019, 02:40 PM
What happened is that PFs became centers and SFs are playing PF. PFs didn't starting playing the three. You can argue that Gordon makes sense as a power-forward, but he isn't an answer at the three. I do think folks are hating on him too much and that he could be good for the Spurs. But the things that have prevented him from playing the three so far in his career are still there. Two firsts is a whole lot to give up for a guy who isn't going to be a core piece going forward.
Everybody knows that. I disagree though, Gordon has enough foot speed and a decent 3-point shot. He can easily play the 3. If you want to go smaller you slot DeRozan in at the 3 and move Gordon to the 4. People said the same shit about Demarre Carroll yet he moved well and killed us from 3 in the last game. And if you think Dante Cunningham or Rudy Gay are better options to guard LeBron you're retarded
Leetonidas
02-02-2019, 02:40 PM
Pau’s expiring contract, Milutinov rights, Toronto 2019 1st, Spurs 2019 2nd and throw in filler for Gordon and Bamba
Wouldn't mind this since it nabs us a young prospect with upside in bamba but why would ORL do this trade?
sasaint
02-02-2019, 02:41 PM
Pau’s expiring contract, Milutinov rights, Toronto 2019 1st, Spurs 2019 2nd and throw in filler for Gordon and Bamba
I don't think that is quite enough to get the deal done, but I like the idea of a package for both Gordon and Bamba. Both firsts this year might do it, but we still would need a legit SF. We would have to do another deal, because we would not be able to draft a SF.
Leetonidas
02-02-2019, 02:43 PM
Silly me wants to raise banners in San Antonio instead of Austin. Good luck with picks 20 and 26.
Considering you're proposing trading the two picks for Aaron fucking Gordon I would assume you're more interested in being a middling treadmill team with overpaid mediocre talent, which is what we already are. Dude doesn't move the needle at all. Lol thinking Gordon is the key to raising another banner :lmao guy can barely make a decent impact on a trash team devoid of talent
gospursgojas
02-02-2019, 02:55 PM
“You mean Aaron Gordon, the slam dunk guy?”
Which is basically what he is.
Bellboy
02-02-2019, 03:02 PM
Wouldn't mind this since it nabs us a young prospect with upside in bamba but why would ORL do this trade?
Filler could range from Cunningham, Poindexter level to Walker, Murray and Metu level, whatever would satisfy Orlando and Spurs.
With David’s and Tim’s mentoring and having Dejuan Blair taking Bamba to every Whataburger between San Marcos to Georgetown we might develop something pretty serviceable.
ace3g
02-02-2019, 03:03 PM
Taurean Prince (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2990962/taurean-prince) makes some sense; he's up for an extension this summer, and the Hawks have made him available, sources say. As a free agent non-destination, the Blazers value players whose rights they can control.But the Hawks are asking a lot so far -- a young player and a pick -- and haven't gotten much traction on Prince trades, sources say.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25902818/nba-trade-deadline-preview-zach-lowe-expect
Chillen
02-02-2019, 03:04 PM
Yeah watched some of his highlights and seems like more of a dunker, shot blocker only and the Spurs system requires you to have a jumpshot. Has potential though. Still if it's for Gasol's expiring, Cunningham, and say a 1st round pick it might be a good deal.
DPG21920
02-02-2019, 03:04 PM
“You mean Aaron Gordon, the slam dunk guy?”
Which is basically what he is.
He’s closer to the next Blake Griffin than he is to just being the dunker guy.
HarlemHeat37
02-02-2019, 03:17 PM
FKLA - Simmons sucks bro. It truly was an amazing story and he had a lot of good moments. But he’s a below average player and has no place in SA lineup.
Simmons is having one of the worst seasons in recent NBA history, no hyperbole:lol
It's crazy that Pop turned him into a rotation player..
FutureMan
02-02-2019, 03:55 PM
I doubt the Magic give up Aaron Gordon for two crappy first round picks. It is the Magic though so you never know. Gordon did take a paycut by accepting a contract that decreases over time so they could chase bigger free agents going forward. If they were smart they would trade Ross to any team willing to take Mozgov’s contract. This would free them up to have a single max slot for next year.
Dverde
02-02-2019, 04:56 PM
Considering you're proposing trading the two picks for Aaron fucking Gordon I would assume you're more interested in being a middling treadmill team with overpaid mediocre talent, which is what we already are. Dude doesn't move the needle at all. Lol thinking Gordon is the key to raising another banner :lmao guy can barely make a decent impact on a trash team devoid of talent
If you reread my original post you would see I don’t really like Gordon. This idea of pearl clutching whenever the idea of trading a draft pick for a known NBA quantity is specifically annoying to me.
FKLA - Simmons sucks bro. It truly was an amazing story and he had a lot of good moments. But he’s a below average player and has no place in SA lineup.
He makes 6.0M this year and 5.7M next year. That's cheap and we need bodies on the wing. I trust Pop to get him back to what he was his last year in SA/his first year in ORL. I mean he's not my top pick for wings I'd like the Spurs to acquire but I'd take him over paying Gordon 20M for the next three seasons and still having a glaring hole at SF.
cd021
02-02-2019, 05:32 PM
This board is full of a bunch of dried up pussys. We don’t need two low end picks right now. These low picks are not NBA ready and have to be developed over years. Demar and LMA got maybe two prime years left. Not a fan of Aaron Gordon, but the idea of trading our garbage contract Gasol with two low end picks is not ludicrous. Spurs won’t do it because Gasol’s f’ing feeling may be hurt. They’ll waive and stretch him per the original plan from two years ago.
Low first's are still an asset lol, especially with the Spurs (Murray, White, Anderson and Hill) giving them away is exactly how a good team turn into Grizzlies with little assets and one of the bleaker teams in terms of outlook.
Gasol isn't costing this team much going forward, $6.7 million next seaso. You want to trade the 21st and 28th pick in order to save this team $7 million?
cd021
02-02-2019, 05:35 PM
If you reread my original post you would see I don’t really like Gordon. This idea of pearl clutching whenever the idea of trading a draft pick for a known NBA quantity is specifically annoying to me.
Well who do you want the Spurs to ship 2 picks and Gasol to, and for whom? You can't complain that posters value first rounders too much and then not offer up a deal where it would make sense to do so.
If y'all want that type of big body tweener and are willing to give up both 1st Rounders wouldn't it make sense to go after Julian Randle instead? Much friendlier deal and the better player. He'll probably get a max deal or close to it after next season though.
Chinook
02-02-2019, 05:39 PM
Everybody knows that. I disagree though, Gordon has enough foot speed and a decent 3-point shot. He can easily play the 3. If you want to go smaller you slot DeRozan in at the 3 and move Gordon to the 4. People said the same shit about Demarre Carroll yet he moved well and killed us from 3 in the last game. And if you think Dante Cunningham or Rudy Gay are better options to guard LeBron you're retarded
People said Carroll couldn't guard perimeter players anymore. Last game didn't seem to prove he could. Anyway, the Spurs faced Lebron four times this season and did their jobs. Folks are crazy to act like he's been a problem for the team this year. You're apparently hoping for a LAL playoff series to justify this trade, but not only is it not even guaranteed that big, bad Lebron even makes the playoffs this year, it's also pretty apparent that Gordon really isn't a good defensive player anyway.
R. DeMurre
02-02-2019, 05:57 PM
The only reason the Magic have any wins this year is because of Nikola Vucevic, who is playing like a legit all star. Vucevic averages more points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks than Aaron Gordon, with a better FG%, 3ptFG%, and FT%. I'd rather start Davis Bertans at SF than Gordon, who is vastly overpaid.
Chinook
02-02-2019, 05:59 PM
If you reread my original post you would see I don’t really like Gordon. This idea of pearl clutching whenever the idea of trading a draft pick for a known NBA quantity is specifically annoying to me.
I don't think you appreciate how valuable firsts are in the NBA. 20 and 26 can get a lotto pick, so unless you also think lotto picks should be traded for just okay players, it doesn't make sense to criticize them like they're nothing. Second, how often do you think multiple firsts are actually traded? It's not that common, even for stars. George, Kawhi, Butler, Paul and Irving all went for one pick or no picks. The Mavs gave up multiple picks for Doncic and Porzingas, but the former was a trade-up in the draft and the latter was a much bigger gamble than people acknowledge.
Second, unless you think White and Murray are just blech players, it doesn't make sense to piss on the Spurs' ability to use those picks to get better than "known NBA quantities". It's not an accident that the team gets "steals" every year. If they see the forward equivalents of Murray and White (say KZ Okpala and Brandon Clarke), I'd rather let them decide how badly they want to keep their picks.
Duncan87
02-02-2019, 06:06 PM
Who reported any thing on Aaron Gordon? Or just thoughts
exstatic
02-02-2019, 06:12 PM
If you reread my original post you would see I don’t really like Gordon. This idea of pearl clutching whenever the idea of trading a draft pick for a known NBA quantity is specifically annoying to me.
He’s an overpaid tweener F who never developed, but he got paid anyway. If you don’t like Gordon, you’re the one pearl clutching by reflexively taking a position.
DAF86
02-02-2019, 06:45 PM
Both Pelicans and Spurs.
Demar doesn't do anything for the Pels (assuming Davis and Holiday are gone) & Holiday is local, liked, and cheaper... As it stands, they are tanking again.
There is no fit with SAS, as this makes their roster overload at the 1 - 2 even worse, while making 3 a bigger hole... SAS isn't in Lux tax trouble if they keep Demar, so there is very little point to such a trade.
Meh, Holiday would do a better job guarding opposing SF's than DeRozan, so I don't see this whole "hole at SF" thing.
I would do Holiday for DeRozan in a heartbeat, tbh. But I'm sure neither Pop nor NOLA would even consider the possibility.
Degoat
02-02-2019, 06:57 PM
Who reported any thing on Aaron Gordon? Or just thoughts
I think zach Lowe mentioned the spurs being interested in an article, I think it was pure speculation on his part and no actual source of knowledge
DAF86
02-02-2019, 06:59 PM
Spurs have guys to guard James already, and Gordon isn't checking Davis better than Aldridge does.
Like who? Gay? And please, don't say Cunningham.
Chinook
02-02-2019, 07:14 PM
Like who? Gay? And please, don't say Cunningham.
Cun, Gay and DeRozan. It's like no one watched the games this year. No one's gonna shut down Lebron, and no defensive gameplan should be based on doing so. But someone can play their assignment, make James go where the D wants him to and come down with the rebounds. That's more than someone like Carroll has been able to do, and you don't give up two picks and pay $80 Million hoping that Gordon can learn to do it.
DAF86
02-02-2019, 07:25 PM
Cun, Gay and DeRozan. It's like no one watched the games this year. No one's gonna shut down Lebron, and no defensive gameplan should be based on doing so. But someone can play their assignment, make James go where the D wants him to and come down with the rebounds. That's more than someone like Carroll has been able to do, and you don't give up two picks and pay $80 Million hoping that Gordon can learn to do it.
I'm not advocating for Gordon specifically, tbh. And I know nobody is going to completely stop Lebron but it would nice to have somebody that would be able to limit him to less than 37 ppg on 60% shooting, tbh.
Chinook
02-02-2019, 08:00 PM
I'm not advocating for Gordon specifically, tbh. And I know nobody is going to completely stop Lebron but it would nice to have somebody that would be able to limit him to less than 37 ppg on 60% shooting, tbh.
For his career, James has averaged 28ppg on 51-percent shooting against the Spurs. Last year, he went for 31 on 50-percent shooting. This year, he got 36 on 53-percent shooting. The Spurs have gotten him for a game or two, but it's not like he's consistently been held down by the team over the years. He had that one game where he went full video game to beat the Spurs. Otherwise, the team worked their game plan really well this year.
Spurch
02-02-2019, 08:01 PM
I'm not so sure holiday or mirotic will work, a much better fit is vucevic from Orlando magic, he is a free agent this summer.
Honestly, who cares about LeGOAT this season. The main worry (if contending is the goal) should be who to throw at Curry-Thompson-Durbeta. White-Green-Nephew would've been the absolute perfect trio to defend them but that autistic faggot had to go and fuck it all up. Fucking piece of shit.
You should make the thread title longer. It's too short.
Ron Swanson
02-02-2019, 08:11 PM
You should make the thread title longer. It's too short.
It's kinda vague, too.
Kobe'sAchilles
02-02-2019, 08:12 PM
I'm pretty confused about what your saying. I think you should add more info in the thread title to fix the problem
Spurch
02-02-2019, 08:19 PM
Sorry this was supposed to be a reply to another thread. I'm new here so I'm still making mistakes using the forum lol
Play Boban
02-02-2019, 08:30 PM
He’s going to Dallas tbqh.
DAF86
02-02-2019, 08:33 PM
No, Vucevic isn't a better fit than Holiday or Mirotic. Not with Aldridge on the team.
Dverde
02-02-2019, 08:38 PM
Well who do you want the Spurs to ship 2 picks and Gasol to, and for whom? You can't complain that posters value first rounders too much and then not offer up a deal where it would make sense to do so.
Yes, I can complain, this is what we do on Spurstalk. I have no problem trading a pick or two if it helps us this year and next. Are you saying you wouldn’t?
Dverde
02-02-2019, 08:54 PM
He’s an overpaid tweener F who never developed, but he got paid anyway. If you don’t like Gordon, you’re the one pearl clutching by reflexively taking a position.
You busted me. I’m the pearl clutcher. Well played!
R to the P McMurphy
02-02-2019, 09:31 PM
If the Spurs could get Gordon for their 2 in the 20s first rounders, plus someone to match contracts, you do that shit. Watched a ton of Gordon in college and he was a beastly defender back then. He's long, athletic, his 3 pt shot has increased every damn year on the shit magic, and he's still only 23 or so. If Pop/spurs got a hold of gordon and worked their developmental magic, my god, it gives me wood thinking about what he could become.
phxspurfan
02-02-2019, 09:59 PM
So the Spurs should go for the old Twin Towers system again, in the age of the 6'5" tweener?
Stop it with this Simmons love. He doesn’t belong in the NBA. He had a nice run a few years ago in the playoffs, but there are way better options out there that don’t have any money attached to them next season.
I doubt the Magic give up Aaron Gordon for two crappy first round picks. It is the Magic though so you never know. Gordon did take a paycut by accepting a contract that decreases over time so they could chase bigger free agents going forward. If they were smart they would trade Ross to any team willing to take Mozgov’s contract. This would free them up to have a single max slot for next year.
They did trade Oladipo for a 28 going on 40 year old Serge Ibaka.
BWS-1994
02-02-2019, 10:09 PM
It’s a probably a long shot, but if they’re after a Magic player, I think Jonathan Isaac will be better.
Chinook
02-02-2019, 10:21 PM
Honestly, who cares about LeGOAT this season. The main worry (if contending is the goal) should be who to throw at Curry-Thompson-Durbeta. White-Green-Nephew would've been the absolute perfect trio to defend them but that autistic faggot had to go and fuck it all up. Fucking piece of shit.
White was actually the guy I wanted to start at PG going into last season. I just thought he fit best with that unit as a scorer who could take the play-making burden from Leonard but also defend his position. This White for sure would have completed that unit.
hoopdreams11
02-02-2019, 10:37 PM
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7173806
Ariza we can add cash or second round pick
Dverde
02-02-2019, 10:47 PM
Love the Spurch alt.
exstatic
02-02-2019, 10:58 PM
If the Spurs could get Gordon for their 2 in the 20s first rounders, plus someone to match contracts, you do that shit. Watched a ton of Gordon in college and he was a beastly defender back then. He's long, athletic, his 3 pt shot has increased every damn year on the shit magic, and he's still only 23 or so. If Pop/spurs got a hold of gordon and worked their developmental magic, my god, it gives me wood thinking about what he could become.
I don’t care what he did or looked like in college. He’s not in college anymore. He’s on his second contract in the NBA, a contract that pays him 8 figures every year. His game hasn’t really improved, and frankly, what incentive does he have to work on it? He’s in the NBA, and got his big contract. The problem with high draft picks that don’t shine is that their teams hang onto them WAY too long, and by the time they are ready to move on, they’re overpaid and under developed. Smart teams don’t give up multiple first rounders and pay like 4/$80M hoping that he develops. That’s the recipe to become the Knicks.
marinoman
02-02-2019, 11:03 PM
Pau and 1 for miroritic
Gordy58
02-03-2019, 01:07 AM
Spurs interested in Alec Burks and Hood
dbestpro
02-03-2019, 01:08 AM
Spurs interested in Alec Burks and Hood
I understand Hood as he could play SF. Don't quite understand Burks.
Duncan87
02-03-2019, 01:17 AM
Source????
RodNIc91
02-03-2019, 01:21 AM
Everybody knows that. I disagree though, Gordon has enough foot speed and a decent 3-point shot. He can easily play the 3. If you want to go smaller you slot DeRozan in at the 3 and move Gordon to the 4. People said the same shit about Demarre Carroll yet he moved well and killed us from 3 in the last game. And if you think Dante Cunningham or Rudy Gay are better options to guard LeBron you're retarded
Great post. I've always wanted Gordon, though it seems he has hit his ceiling already.
HarlemHeat37
02-03-2019, 01:29 AM
I'm not a fan of Gordon, but it's moreso due to his soft demeanor(typical light skinned) and tendency to disappear throughout games..
I wouldn't write him off yet, though..post-SVG Orlando is where talent is wasted..very poorly constructed team and questionable direction, they're still letting a scrub like Fournier use way too many possessions..
FlAVaK
02-03-2019, 02:14 AM
Source????
http://amicohoops.net/cavs-seek-another-pick-working-on-hood-burks-trades/
Duncan87
02-03-2019, 02:57 AM
Burks and Hood weird for Spurs maybe for Cunningham and Qpon to get waived
RC_Drunkford
02-03-2019, 05:36 AM
It's save to say the Spurs are trying to move Pau. Burks and Hood for Pau works. The question is why would you give up a first rounder for 2 expiring contracts?
RC_Drunkford
02-03-2019, 05:48 AM
People said Carroll couldn't guard perimeter players anymore. Last game didn't seem to prove he could. Anyway, the Spurs faced Lebron four times this season and did their jobs. Folks are crazy to act like he's been a problem for the team this year. You're apparently hoping for a LAL playoff series to justify this trade, but not only is it not even guaranteed that big, bad Lebron even makes the playoffs this year, it's also pretty apparent that Gordon really isn't a good defensive player anyway.
Nah I actually hope the Lakers don't make the playoffs at all. Gordon might not be a good defender for the Magic, but if he plays for Pop that will change. Pop made David Lee, DeRozan and other players who were known to be bad on D play decent defense, it's almost a given he would make Gordon a solid defender. And he's 23, he didn't hit his ceiling yet.
People here want Otto Porter and his bad contract, but when you compare his numbers to Gordon, Gordon is actually ahead in points, boards and assists while only being 2.8% worse from 3. Gordon is also 2 years younger and on a way better contract than Porter and has a better defensive rating
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Otto+Porter&player_id1_select=Otto+Porter&player_id1=porteot01&y1=2019&player_id2_hint=Aaron+Gordon&player_id2_select=Aaron+Gordon&y2=2019&player_id2=gordoaa01&idx=players
ceperez
02-03-2019, 06:10 AM
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7173806
Ariza we can add cash or second round pick
Wizards are gunning to make the playoffs, so this isn't happening.
ceperez
02-03-2019, 06:14 AM
It's save to say the Spurs are trying to move Pau. Burks and Hood for Pau works. The question is why would you give up a first rounder for 2 expiring contracts?
That's the big question. Many players out there have expiring contracts and if last year was any indicator, you can acquire these players on the cheap in the offseason.
But Burks and Hood are both SFs.... so maybe they can do better than Cunningham and Pondexter.
RC_Drunkford
02-03-2019, 06:33 AM
That's the big question. Many players out there have expiring contracts and if last year was any indicator, you can acquire these players on the cheap in the offseason.
But Burks and Hood are both SFs.... so maybe they can do better than Cunningham and Pondexter.
they are actually SGs. Would like to have a little more size at the 3, but they can play it and are good 3-point shooters. Would improve the team this year, I just wouldn't like to give up a first rounder for them.
cd021
02-03-2019, 08:06 AM
Yes, I can complain, this is what we do on Spurstalk. I have no problem trading a pick or two if it helps us this year and next. Are you saying you wouldn’t?
I have no problem trading one of the two picks but only if it makes sense so long as the player fits. Giving up two is silly because it is almost certainly a drastic overpay unless it's for a very good player on a multi year deal.
Being loose with draft assets is how Memphis got into trouble, Spurs historically have done an excellent job of making the most of low first's, giving them two cracks at finding another steal sounds much better than many of the trade options I have seen.
ceperez
02-03-2019, 08:45 AM
they are actually SGs. Would like to have a little more size at the 3, but they can play it and are good 3-point shooters. Would improve the team this year, I just wouldn't like to give up a first rounder for them.
What about giving away Milutinov? Surely some team needs a big?
sasaint
02-03-2019, 08:57 AM
I have no problem trading one of the two picks but only if it makes sense so long as the player fits. Giving up two is silly because it is almost certainly a drastic overpay unless it's for a very good player on a multi year deal.
Being loose with draft assets is how Memphis got into trouble, Spurs historically have done an excellent job of making the most of low first's, giving them two cracks at finding another steal sounds much better than many of the trade options I have seen.
I would actually prefer to move the Toronto pick IF we could acquire a good player on a multi-year deal. We have an unusually high number of young players (that I like); adding two more young prospects to develop doesn't sound like the Spurs - and for good reason. Too many young guys is not optimal roster construction. A good young veteran would be preferable to another young prospect. My second preference would be to trade both firsts to move into the lottery - assuming there is a targeted player available.
I’m inclined to stand pat. The calculus has changed: this is about bringing in young cost controlled talent during these transition years and less about making a move to beef up a roster for championship run now.
I don’t know enough about Gordon (Orlando seems like a painful team to watch). But that seems like the TYPE of move that could make sense: a misfit/reclamation project that the team sees something in, who is in his early 20s to match the White-Murray core, and has some level of cost control.
Don’t see the point in going after a player who is on the DDR or LMA timeline (like Ariza) to be honest. Rather the spurs keep the picks and take the benefit of stretching Gasol. Make moves for “stars” or players to set themselves up for 2 years from now.
NASpurs
02-03-2019, 09:36 AM
The Golden State Warriors (http://bleacherreport.com/golden-state-warriors) and San Antonio Spurs (http://bleacherreport.com/san-antonio-spurs) are reportedly among the teams that are tracking Cleveland Cavaliers (http://bleacherreport.com/cleveland-cavaliers) swingman Rodney Hood (http://bleacherreport.com/rodney-hood).
According to Cleveland.com's Chris Fedor (https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2019/02/cleveland-cavaliers-have-received-trade-offers-for-rodney-hood-sources.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true), the Cavs have received "multiple offers" for Hood leading up to the Feb. 7 trade deadline.
Fedor noted the Warriors are "keeping an eye on" Hood and the Spurs have "shown interest."
exstatic
02-03-2019, 09:47 AM
The Golden State Warriors (http://bleacherreport.com/golden-state-warriors) and San Antonio Spurs (http://bleacherreport.com/san-antonio-spurs) are reportedly among the teams that are tracking Cleveland Cavaliers (http://bleacherreport.com/cleveland-cavaliers) swingman Rodney Hood (http://bleacherreport.com/rodney-hood).
According to Cleveland.com's Chris Fedor (https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2019/02/cleveland-cavaliers-have-received-trade-offers-for-rodney-hood-sources.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true), the Cavs have received "multiple offers" for Hood leading up to the Feb. 7 trade deadline.
Fedor noted the Warriors are "keeping an eye on" Hood and the Spurs have "shown interest."
Cheap, no financial commitment, since he’s a UFA this summer. I’m not even sure his Bird Rights convey, since he accepted his year 5 QO. I might flip a second rounder, or wait for buyout time.
Dverde
02-03-2019, 10:06 AM
I have no problem trading one of the two picks but only if it makes sense so long as the player fits. Giving up two is silly because it is almost certainly a drastic overpay unless it's for a very good player on a multi year deal.
Being loose with draft assets is how Memphis got into trouble, Spurs historically have done an excellent job of making the most of low first's, giving them two cracks at finding another steal sounds much better than many of the trade options I have seen.
I think it’s wrong to compare us to Memphis. Most of Memphis’ mistakes were done via Free Agency. Giving out bad contracts to Chandler Parsons, Jymichael Green, Kyle Anderson. Giving the supermax to Conley. They have changed coaches three times in six seasons. We have plenty of young players right now. If we don’t have a first round pick one year the world will keep spinning. We used draft and stash draft picks all the time. Sometime you have to “overpay” to get a player you want via trade.
Degoat
02-03-2019, 10:57 AM
The Golden State Warriors (http://bleacherreport.com/golden-state-warriors) and San Antonio Spurs (http://bleacherreport.com/san-antonio-spurs) are reportedly among the teams that are tracking Cleveland Cavaliers (http://bleacherreport.com/cleveland-cavaliers) swingman Rodney Hood (http://bleacherreport.com/rodney-hood).
According to Cleveland.com's Chris Fedor (https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2019/02/cleveland-cavaliers-have-received-trade-offers-for-rodney-hood-sources.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true), the Cavs have received "multiple offers" for Hood leading up to the Feb. 7 trade deadline.
Fedor noted the Warriors are "keeping an eye on" Hood and the Spurs have "shown interest."
I wouldn’t mind getting Hood or Burks but idk how much they actually would improve the team, I don’t know to much about them
ceperez
02-03-2019, 12:01 PM
I wouldn’t mind getting Hood or Burks but idk how much they actually would improve the team, I don’t know to much about them
Spurs are in need of a serviceable SF. If Hood costs next to nothing, then its worth it. https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2019/02/cleveland-cavaliers-have-received-trade-offers-for-rodney-hood-sources.html
Cleveland wants something back though.
Burks seems to have higher percentages.
Chinook
02-03-2019, 12:31 PM
Nah I actually hope the Lakers don't make the playoffs at all. Gordon might not be a good defender for the Magic, but if he plays for Pop that will change. Pop made David Lee, DeRozan and other players who were known to be bad on D play decent defense, it's almost a given he would make Gordon a solid defender. And he's 23, he didn't hit his ceiling yet.
People here want Otto Porter and his bad contract, but when you compare his numbers to Gordon, Gordon is actually ahead in points, boards and assists while only being 2.8% worse from 3. Gordon is also 2 years younger and on a way better contract than Porter and has a better defensive rating
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Otto+Porter&player_id1_select=Otto+Porter&player_id1=porteot01&y1=2019&player_id2_hint=Aaron+Gordon&player_id2_select=Aaron+Gordon&y2=2019&player_id2=gordoaa01&idx=players
I don't hate Gordon as much as some folks here do. I just don't think he can play the three. Like I think a Gay, Gordon, Aldridge perimeter would struggle. The Magic have tried playing Aaron at the three his whole career and it just hasn't worked, and giving up assets and committing to a long-term deal in the hopes he can figure it out doesn't jive with me. Also, I don't think it makes sense to say Pop would make Gordon a good defender. Pop doesn't turn crap into gold. He targets players he thinks can work and adds them. In that regard, if the Spurs were to trade for Gordon, I'd be fine with it, because it would suggest they had a plan to get the best out of him. I just think that would be more as a Gay replacement at the four than it would be as a three in this current roster.
cd021
02-03-2019, 12:37 PM
I think it’s wrong to compare us to Memphis. Most of Memphis’ mistakes were done via Free Agency. Giving out bad contracts to Chandler Parsons, Jymichael Green, Kyle Anderson. Giving the supermax to Conley. They have changed coaches three times in six seasons. We have plenty of young players right now. If we don’t have a first round pick one year the world will keep spinning. We used draft and stash draft picks all the time. Sometime you have to “overpay” to get a player you want via trade.
Memphis has flubbed numerous first round over the past dozen seasons that could've changed their prospect's (the Thabeet picks) as well as shipping away their 2011, 2013 and 2017 picks with not really anything to show for it other than a brief stint of Shane Battier. That doesn't even include the disastrous trade with the Celtics that will cost them a high lottery pick sooner or later.
I am not saying that not having a pick is a nightmare bit sounds like you're saying that the Spurs should just give these picks away this year but don't have a specific trade in mind.
Moving the Raptors pick may be useful but it is probably better to keep the 21st and 28th picks and try to package them for like the 14 pick and potientially grabbing a wing that could help us for a decade.
pad300
02-03-2019, 12:41 PM
Things that would be nice but won't happen:
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7174444
SAS out : Pau, Cunningham, FRP TOR 2019, SRP SAS 2019
SAS in : Mirotic, Hood
CLE in : Pau, FRP TOR 2019, SRP SAS 2019
CLE out : Hood, Burks, SRP CLE 2020
NOP in : Burks, SRP CLE 2020
NOP out : Mirotic
Not sure the balance is right on the picks, but SAS turns Gasol/Cunningham (or Pondexter) into more viable rotation players (not to mention avoiding the $6.3 M owed to Gasol next summer) in return for a first and a second. NOP turns Mirotic into a future asset, CLE tanks harder for Zion and gets a FRP and a SRP as a profit ...
pad300
02-03-2019, 12:42 PM
Memphis has flubbed numerous first round over the past dozen seasons that could've changed their prospect's (the Thabeet picks) as well as shipping away their 2011, 2013 and 2017 picks with not really anything to show for it other than a brief stint of Shane Battier. That doesn't even include the disastrous trade with the Celtics that will cost them a high lottery pick sooner or later.
I am not saying that not having a pick is a nightmare bit sounds like you're saying that the Spurs should just give these picks away this year but don't have a specific trade in mind.
Moving the Raptors pick may be useful but it is probably better to keep the 21st and 28th picks and try to package them for like the 14 pick and potientially grabbing a wing that could help us for a decade.
I don't think that 21 +28 moves you up to 14...
Chinook
02-03-2019, 12:49 PM
Things that would be nice but won't happen:
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7174444
SAS out : Pau, Cunningham, FRP TOR 2019, SRP SAS 2019
SAS in : Mirotic, Hood
CLE in : Pau, FRP TOR 2019, SRP SAS 2019
CLE out : Hood, Burks, SRP CLE 2020
NOP in : Burks, SRP CLE 2020
NOP out : Mirotic
Not sure the balance is right on the picks, but SAS turns Gasol/Cunningham (or Pondexter) into more viable rotation players (not to mention avoiding the $6.3 M owed to Gasol next summer) in return for a first and a second. NOP turns Mirotic into a future asset, CLE tanks harder for Zion and gets a FRP and a SRP as a profit ...
I'd want nothing to do with giving up two picks for guys who don't fit a need. Bertans already doesn't play enough as it is. Hood's been okay, but the Cavs are getting way too much for him and Burks in this deal, and SA is paying that whole price for some reason.
Kurik
02-03-2019, 12:50 PM
Things that would be nice but won't happen:
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7174444
SAS out : Pau, Cunningham, FRP TOR 2019, SRP SAS 2019
SAS in : Mirotic, Hood
CLE in : Pau, FRP TOR 2019, SRP SAS 2019
CLE out : Hood, Burks, SRP CLE 2020
NOP in : Burks, SRP CLE 2020
NOP out : Mirotic
Not sure the balance is right on the picks, but SAS turns Gasol/Cunningham (or Pondexter) into more viable rotation players (not to mention avoiding the $6.3 M owed to Gasol next summer) in return for a first and a second. NOP turns Mirotic into a future asset, CLE tanks harder for Zion and gets a FRP and a SRP as a profit ...
Horrible trade for the Spurs.
pad300
02-03-2019, 12:53 PM
I'd want nothing to do with giving up two picks for guys who don't fit a need. Bertans already doesn't play enough as it is. Hood's been okay, but the Cavs are getting way too much for him and Burks in this deal, and SA is paying that whole price for some reason.
You think either CLE or NOP would do it with less going to them? SAS, IMO is getting the cream of the players involved, and saving money (and future space). Would CLE do it just for the TOR pick?
Chinook
02-03-2019, 01:31 PM
You think either CLE or NOP would do it with less going to them? SAS, IMO is getting the cream of the players involved, and saving money (and future space). Would CLE do it just for the TOR pick?
I'd rather eat Gasol's money than pay a first to get rid of it. Getting out of his contract at this point isn't really incentive for me to do anything. I have no idea if Cleveland would do it for less. Maybe they'd trade Hood for a second if the Spurs just sent Cun out. As I said, Mirotic doesn't interest me at all.
duncan2150
02-03-2019, 01:34 PM
I agree with chinook here, plus you could have something this summer with that gasol contract. Maybe move up in the draft if We take a bad contract from another team.
DPG21920
02-03-2019, 02:12 PM
I agree with chinook here, plus you could have something this summer with that gasol contract. Maybe move up in the draft if We take a bad contract from another team.
So I’ve seen this a few times now and wanted to correct a common misconception regarding Pau’s deal. If he’s not traded at this deadline his contract loses all value.
In order for a team to take advantage of sending out equal money then waiving Pau it has to be this deadline. After that, in a trade Paus outgoing salary would be only 6.7M.
So it has to be this deadline. I’m with Chinook too. Spurs getting rid of 6.7M is not really worth much considering they likely wouldn’t be FA players even with all of Paus money gone. If they want to be FA players it would take moving Mills and Pau.
DPG21920
02-03-2019, 02:16 PM
Regarding Gordon: he would absolutely be a Rudy replacement. Spurs, if trading for Gordon would basically be saying we feel paying Gordon that money is better than an aging Rudy. Rudy seems on course to cash in a 2-3 year deal for maybe 30-45M.
SA may not want to pay him that but could want to pay Gordon.
acoelho1
02-03-2019, 02:22 PM
I do think the Spurs need more physicality on the wing in the playoffs. Maybe Damyean Dotson, who I believe the Spurs were interested in him earlier in the year. I definitely think he has untapped potential that the Spurs would unlock and it shouldn’t require a 1st rd pick.
mo7888
02-03-2019, 02:38 PM
Regarding Gordon: he would absolutely be a Rudy replacement. Spurs, if trading for Gordon would basically be saying we feel paying Gordon that money is better than an aging Rudy. Rudy seems on course to cash in a 2-3 year deal for maybe 30-45M.
SA may not want to pay him that but could want to pay Gordon.
I'm also in the camp that says Gordon is absolutely a 4 and would take Gay's spot. I think it makes sense to send Gay out in the deal someway. If I could use Gay and Pau somehow to do a 3 team deal that resulted in Gordon and a SF I think that would be the best we can do right now. Maybe that SF is Hood as people are talking about here or maybe it's someone else but that's what I would try and construct right now.
r0drig0lac
02-03-2019, 02:57 PM
well..
Portland has agreed to a deal to acquire Cleveland forward Rodney Hood for guards Nik Stauskas, Wade Baldwin and two future second-round picks, league sources tell ESPN.
ace3g
02-03-2019, 03:00 PM
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1092150411522387969
Ditty
02-03-2019, 03:00 PM
We are not trading Gasol. No one wants him. He will be released with his partially guaranteed contract this summer.
marinoman
02-03-2019, 03:08 PM
Portland being interested in hood or Dallas in kp was not reported at all til a trade happened. Some team under the radar is prolly closin in on AD as we speak
R. DeMurre
02-03-2019, 03:09 PM
I just don't think Gordon is the answer. He makes triple the salary of Bertans and I doubt he even moves the goalposts for the Spurs as a team.
I'd hold out for a better fit, an actual SF, rather than paying Gordon.
Honestly, at this point I think many of the issues the Spurs have are solved by giving White and Bertans a combined extra 10-12 minutes per game, and taking away those same minutes from Forbes, DeRozan, and Gasol.
ceperez
02-03-2019, 03:16 PM
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1092150411522387969
Oh well. There goes another SF.
KDKSpurs24
02-03-2019, 03:30 PM
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1092150411522387969
This trade helps me greatly in 2k since I use the Blazers and barely get any output from Stauskas.
jermaine
02-03-2019, 03:33 PM
This trade helps me greatly in 2k since I use the Blazers and barely get any output from Stauskas.
It wouldn't help you against me on ps4... I'd stomp you in the ground.
R. DeMurre
02-03-2019, 03:50 PM
"The Cavaliers are continuing to add draft assets, and are still pursuing trades for guard Alec Burks and JR Smith prior to Thursday's trade deadline. With in-season trades for Hood, Kyle Korver, George Hill and Sam Dekker, Cleveland has acquired seven draft picks - including a first-rounder and six second-round choices."
Cleveland praying they get lucky with a Jokic/Ginobili/Draymond type of pick.
I wonder how many of those 2nd rounders they would trade for one first rounder?
KDKSpurs24
02-03-2019, 04:11 PM
It wouldn't help you against me on ps4... I'd stomp you in the ground.
:rollin
Drop the PSN name and as soon as the update hits you can gladly get destroyed.
Degoat
02-03-2019, 04:13 PM
Welp the blazers got better, now I’m sure OKC, Utah, Denver will probably all make a move to improve their team while the spurs do nothing lol
ceperez
02-03-2019, 04:36 PM
Welp the blazers got better, now I’m sure OKC, Utah, Denver will probably all make a move to improve their team while the spurs do nothing lol
Jazz might get Conley.
OKC may need a shooter... Mirotic?
Dverde
02-03-2019, 04:36 PM
I agree Spurs don’t need the Hood. If they did want him they wouldn’t give up what was needed to get him. Spurs never do trades because they overvalue what they have. Remember when they wanted a first round pick back for Dejuan Blair.
Dverde
02-03-2019, 04:37 PM
Jazz might get Conley.
OKC may need a shooter... Mirotic?
OKC probably going to get Wes Matthews. The shooter they desperately need.
Robz4000
02-03-2019, 04:48 PM
OKC probably going to get Wes Matthews. The shooter they desperately need.
Wes Matthews is a pretty awful shooter these days.
jermaine
02-03-2019, 04:52 PM
:rollin
Drop the PSN name and as soon as the update hits you can gladly get destroyed.
JermaineWebb is it...
Spurs da champs
02-03-2019, 05:53 PM
I'm glad Rodney Hood got traded to Portland, he doesn't fit a need with this team.
duncan2150
02-03-2019, 06:26 PM
So I’ve seen this a few times now and wanted to correct a common misconception regarding Pau’s deal. If he’s not traded at this deadline his contract loses all value.
In order for a team to take advantage of sending out equal money then waiving Pau it has to be this deadline. After that, in a trade Paus outgoing salary would be only 6.7M.
So it has to be this deadline. I’m with Chinook too. Spurs getting rid of 6.7M is not really worth much considering they likely wouldn’t be FA players even with all of Paus money gone. If they want to be FA players it would take moving Mills and Pau.
Thanks
what i mean is trading his one year contract for a player with 2-3 years in order To move up( . Offcourse the player needs To be interesting and that will give more flexibility To his team.
ace3g
02-03-2019, 06:45 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1091886118226874368
cd021
02-03-2019, 06:54 PM
I don't think that 21 +28 moves you up to 14...
Probably not but I also don't think PATFO would package 2 firsts rounders to move up only a handful of spots either. Unless they can get a player that they love at 16 instead of two players that they like at 21 and 28.
ace3g
02-03-2019, 08:56 PM
https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1092239095621857280
Spurs da champs
02-03-2019, 09:06 PM
https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1092239095621857280
I swear if Dell Demps caves...
mo7888
02-03-2019, 09:13 PM
https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1092239095621857280
Must have either gotten AD or fired Luke..
HarlemHeat37
02-03-2019, 09:14 PM
^^Or he's just keeping the NBA in the news by taking advantage of a terrible Super Bowl:lol
DPG21920
02-03-2019, 09:18 PM
^^Or he's just keeping the NBA in the news by taking advantage of a terrible Super Bowl:lol
Yup. Bron doing the nba a favor
jermaine
02-03-2019, 09:22 PM
https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1092239095621857280
Superbowl night this nigga wanna be seen!!! This nigga here
TimDunkem
02-03-2019, 09:22 PM
Superbowl night this nigga wanna be seen!!! This nigga here
It's a special kind of narcissism.
BillMc
02-03-2019, 10:37 PM
https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1092239095621857280
"Great teammate LeBron" who always wants to trade away half of those teammates wherever he goes.
marinoman
02-03-2019, 11:11 PM
Is thon good player for this team? I haven’t seen much of him. Just heard the hype
edit- I didn’t realize he’s a center, pass
last thing we need are 6 ft guards and centers
TD 21
02-03-2019, 11:35 PM
I've given thought to Gordon before, but he'd definitely have to be a Gay replacement. The alternative is just too expensive for what would otherwise be a somewhat awkward fit and for a team with a still sub championship ceiling.
It's not happening, but Murray, Gasol, 1st for Gordon is interesting. It would mean more significant change for probably no more than marginal improvement, but it would streamline the roster and take care of a multitude of issues . . .
- Murray's possible (probable?) awkward fit with the starters or a potential Murray/White controversy (the roster isn't set up for them to play much together going forward).
- Solves the Forbes conundrum and opens a path to a rotation spot for Walker.
- Eliminates the heavy reliance on gimpy Gay, boosts the athleticism and adds a more ideal big wing defender.
Like who? Gay? And please, don't say Cunningham.
Good thing a Lakers series is virtually impossible, because even if what he were saying was true, barring a trade it would mean Cunningham would have to be a rotation player.
Being able to do something faintly resembling a passable job on James is virtually meaningless if you're not also a threat offensively.
I'm not a fan of Gordon, but it's moreso due to his soft demeanor(typical light skinned) and tendency to disappear throughout games..
I wouldn't write him off yet, though..post-SVG Orlando is where talent is wasted..very poorly constructed team and questionable direction, they're still letting a scrub like Fournier use way too many possessions..
:lmao Don't know if this is serious or not, but I thought you were mixed?
GusT15
02-04-2019, 03:55 AM
"Great teammate LeBron" who always wants to trade away half of those teammates wherever he goes.
Half of those teammates and all of his Head Coaches.
Wanted to get Spoelsta fired,Reily said no,managed to get Blatt fired while he was leading the East and now he wants to get Walton fired by any means necessary.
And at some point people at ST thought he could co exist with Popovich.
r0drig0lac
02-04-2019, 04:12 AM
Superbowl night this nigga wanna be seen!!! This nigga here
this, Lebron is a weird guy
mo7888
02-04-2019, 02:06 PM
Woj reporting Davis has given the pels a list of teams that he'd be willing to sign long term with.
lmbebo
02-04-2019, 02:16 PM
Woj reporting Davis has given the pels a list of teams that he'd be willing to sign long term with.
Lakers, Clippers, Los Angeles - in no specific order of preference of course.
r0drig0lac
02-04-2019, 02:18 PM
Lakers, Clippers, Los Angeles - in no specific order of preference of course.
it is clearly open to the knicks and golden state
well....
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1092502927472840706
Degoat
02-04-2019, 02:23 PM
I don’t know if it’s even possible and the pelicans would be dumb to accept but could you imagine the warriors trading draymond, iggy, and maybe some future picks for AD lol
Dverde
02-04-2019, 02:43 PM
Woj reporting Davis has given the pels a list of teams that he'd be willing to sign long term with.
I bet the Spurs are on “the list” with AD’s team knowing the Spurs wouldn’t do the trade. There will be others that don’t have dire need or cap room to do the deal on it. This is more of a PR move to make AD look more reasonable.
tmtcsc
02-04-2019, 02:48 PM
Woj reporting Davis has given the pels a list of teams that he'd be willing to sign long term with.
That's a bullshit list in my opinion. None of those teams have ANYTHING the Pelicans want at this point. Leach Paul wants those listed teams to put together offers for the Pelicans so it will make the Lakers offer look like they're giving away the store. Just trash antics. Stay Strong Pels! FUCK THE LA LEBRONS.
CLIPPERS
KNICKS
BUCKS
LAKERS
No mention of Celtics which is an absolute joke. Lebron and his posse are absolutely terrified of the offer Boston can put together for Davis.
BatManu20
02-04-2019, 02:59 PM
1092505032199688192
mo7888
02-04-2019, 03:05 PM
1092505032199688192
Lakers and NY are the only 2 I see that can make compelling offers. I'd make either take hill in the deal.
Dverde
02-04-2019, 03:28 PM
I really hope this house of cards game blows up in Lebron’s face.
Chillen
02-04-2019, 03:43 PM
If the Lakers/Pelicans trade goes through wouldn't it leave the Lakers roster pretty gutted. They already are 2 games out of the playoffs and AD and James is a good duo but you still need a complete team to win a chip. Ingram, Ball, Kuzma on pretty low contracts so if a deal happens it will likely be a 3 team trade. Just saying AD/Bron is good but not if the roster is gutted I know they will sign some scrubs if a deal goes down.
I hope NO gets a better offer for AD and takes it.
DPG21920
02-04-2019, 04:07 PM
If the Lakers/Pelicans trade goes through wouldn't it leave the Lakers roster pretty gutted. They already are 2 games out of the playoffs and AD and James is a good duo but you still need a complete team to win a chip. Ingram, Ball, Kuzma on pretty low contracts so if a deal happens it will likely be a 3 team trade. Just saying AD/Bron is good but not if the roster is gutted I know they will sign some scrubs if a deal goes down.
I hope NO gets a better offer for AD and takes it.
LA is in the spot they are in now because the guys they are offering aren’t good. You can find replacement level players for all of them currently yet add AD. Come on people
cool cat
02-04-2019, 04:24 PM
LA is in the spot they are in now because the guys they are offering aren’t good. You can find replacement level players for all of them currently yet add AD. Come on people
Yep you get AD and Lebron, and LA is an attractive place to go play again. Lebron already moved the needle for them, AD would be huge. You swing for the fences when that kind of talent is out there, that's why Celtics, LA and 76's have egg on their faces for trying to low ball the spurs for Kawhi. Toronto now has the best chance in their history to make the finals because they were willing to take that chance.
Potential talent doesn’t win championships, proven talent does.
callo1
02-04-2019, 04:39 PM
Corey Brewer?
Leetonidas
02-04-2019, 04:42 PM
If the Lakers/Pelicans trade goes through wouldn't it leave the Lakers roster pretty gutted. They already are 2 games out of the playoffs and AD and James is a good duo but you still need a complete team to win a chip. Ingram, Ball, Kuzma on pretty low contracts so if a deal happens it will likely be a 3 team trade. Just saying AD/Bron is good but not if the roster is gutted I know they will sign some scrubs if a deal goes down.
I hope NO gets a better offer for AD and takes it.
It doesn't matter. Those scrubs aren't taking LBJ past the Dubs and I'm sure he knows this is building for next season. If you can get AD and lebron you don't pass it up Imo especially since none of the Lakers assets have anywhere close to superstar potential
Duncan87
02-04-2019, 05:10 PM
Clan the Spurs Fan says Spurs interested in Thon Maker
r0drig0lac
02-04-2019, 05:11 PM
Clan the Spurs Fan says Spurs interested in Thon Maker
?
emanueldavidginobili
02-04-2019, 05:17 PM
Lakers new trade offer. Ball, Kuzma, Ingram, Rondo, Lance, Beasley and two 1st round picks. Holy shit Lakers would be fools to actually do this.
DPG21920
02-04-2019, 05:20 PM
I have a feeling NO is going to cave and give AD to the Lakers for their trash.
RD2191
02-04-2019, 05:24 PM
I have a feeling NO is going to cave and give AD to the Lakers for their trash.
Yup. Same here.
r0drig0lac
02-04-2019, 05:33 PM
Lonzo has excluded the Lakers from his bio on twitter
Chillen
02-04-2019, 05:34 PM
The Celtics will probably take Tatum off the table once Kyrie decides to bolt so waiting for the summer to trade AD might not be the best move. Take the best package by the trade deadline and be done with it, this news is just hovering over your franchise and it's nothing but disrespect towards it.
He doesn't want to be on your team anymore, I like what the Knicks did by shipping Kristaps to Dallas fast with no drama.
I just don't know why the Spurs haven't made an offer for Davis yet, they really should.
Lakers offer isn't the best but sometimes you have to take less for a star (Kawhi deal).
Leetonidas
02-04-2019, 05:36 PM
I'm sure the Spurs have made an offer. I'm sure every single team in the league has. Just because it hasn't been posted on Twitter doesn't mean teams aren't having discussions tbh
playbonner15
02-04-2019, 05:38 PM
Lol so you mean NO is going to get all these guys? Pels have that much roster space? LMAO
Degoat
02-04-2019, 05:39 PM
Call me crazy, but I think the lakers are kinda crazy giving up all 3 of Ingram, kuzma, and ball. Whenever AD gets hurt like he usually does the lakers will be screwed
Chillen
02-04-2019, 05:39 PM
I'm sure the Spurs have made an offer. I'm sure every single team in the league has. Just because it hasn't been posted on Twitter doesn't mean teams aren't having discussions tbh
Yeah I would sure hope the Spurs made an offer for AD. I bet DeMar and LMA weren't included though, Pels quickly hung the phone up. Just speculation. I know why Irving wasn't traded to Spurs though it's because LeBron knew he was going to be a Lakers player.
Chillen
02-04-2019, 05:41 PM
Call me crazy, but I think the lakers are kinda crazy giving up all 3 of Ingram, kuzma, and ball. Whenever AD gets hurt like he usually does the lakers will be screwed
They are gutting their roster for Davis, they are definitely going to lose a few games after the trade. Magic is thinking long term most likely. If the trade happens like the media is reporting.
exstatic
02-04-2019, 05:42 PM
Lakers new trade offer. Ball, Kuzma, Ingram, Rondo, Lance, Beasley and two 1st round picks. Holy shit Lakers would be fools to actually do this.
None of those players are worth a shit, and the picks will be garbage if Davis teams up with LeBron. NO would be stupid to do it.
DPG21920
02-04-2019, 05:45 PM
The Celtics will probably take Tatum off the table once Kyrie decides to bolt so waiting for the summer to trade AD might not be the best move. Take the best package by the trade deadline and be done with it, this news is just hovering over your franchise and it's nothing but disrespect towards it.
He doesn't want to be on your team anymore, I like what the Knicks did by shipping Kristaps to Dallas fast with no drama.
I just don't know why the Spurs haven't made an offer for Davis yet, they really should.
Lakers offer isn't the best but sometimes you have to take less for a star (Kawhi deal).
Oh, so you mean keeping AD around could turn them from a lottery team to a.........lottery team? I mean, come on. This is your franchise and some hurt feelings and a “dark cloud” are concerns X, Y, Z. Concerns A, B, C are getting the best deal which can’t be had right now.
timvp
02-04-2019, 05:46 PM
Lakers new trade offer. Ball, Kuzma, Ingram, Rondo, Lance, Beasley and two 1st round picks. Holy shit Lakers would be fools to actually do this.
Trading a pile of trash for a top three most valuable player in the NBA? That'd be a steal for the Lakers.
exstatic
02-04-2019, 05:48 PM
Oh, so you mean keeping AD around could turn them from a lottery team to a.........lottery team? I mean, come on. This is your franchise and some hurt feelings and a “dark cloud” are concerns X, Y, Z. Concerns A, B, C are getting the best deal which can’t be had right now.
Honestly? With what LA is offering, I'd take Jaylen Brown and salary filler, plus one of Boston's two GOOD picks. That would be a good deal for Boston, and net more return than LA's dumpster fire shit sandwich package.
DAF86
02-04-2019, 05:48 PM
If I were the Pelicans, I would use the Rockets' trade offer of 4 1st round picks to get Butler, a player half as good as Davis. Any team wanting AD should start with that: 4 first round picks.
timvp
02-04-2019, 05:52 PM
Honestly? With what LA is offering, I'd take Jaylen Brown and salary filler, plus one of Boston's two GOOD picks. That would be a good deal for Boston, and net more return than LA's dumpster fire shit sandwich package.
Tatum, Brown and a couple good picks is an offer that blows the Lakers offer out of the water. And if I'm the Celtics, I do it in a second.
The only reason AD's camp is saying Celtics didn't make "the list" is because they want the Pelicans to trade AD before the deadline and he literally can't be traded to the Celtics until the summer. Come summertime, if AD is still on the Pelicans, the Celtics will suddenly be an approved team.
KDKSpurs24
02-04-2019, 05:59 PM
Tatum, Brown and a couple good picks is an offer that blows the Lakers offer out of the water. And if I'm the Celtics, I do it in a second.
The only reason AD's camp is saying Celtics didn't make "the list" is because they want the Pelicans to trade AD before the deadline and he literally can't be traded to the Celtics until the summer. Come summertime, if AD is still on the Pelicans, the Celtics will suddenly be an approved team.
They won’t offer both of those guys.
Note: I meant to add especially if Kyrie leaves.
DPG21920
02-04-2019, 06:01 PM
Tatum, Brown and a couple good picks is an offer that blows the Lakers offer out of the water. And if I'm the Celtics, I do it in a second.
The only reason AD's camp is saying Celtics didn't make "the list" is because they want the Pelicans to trade AD before the deadline and he literally can't be traded to the Celtics until the summer. Come summertime, if AD is still on the Pelicans, the Celtics will suddenly be an approved team.
AD dad saying he does not want his son playing for the Celtics because they traded IT while his son is requesting a trade :lol
DAF86
02-04-2019, 06:06 PM
Bucks are on a hard place, tbh. Logic says you do anything to get AD, but, as built right now, they have as big a chance as anyone to win the championship, and I doubt trading half their team for AD improves those chances. In fact, it will probably decrease them, at least for this season.
Giannis and AD wouldn't be one of the greatest fits either.
Hoops Czar
02-04-2019, 06:14 PM
I don't think you appreciate how valuable firsts are in the NBA. 20 and 26 can get a lotto pick, so unless you also think lotto picks should be traded for just okay players, it doesn't make sense to criticize them like they're nothing. Second, how often do you think multiple firsts are actually traded? It's not that common, even for stars. George, Kawhi, Butler, Paul and Irving all went for one pick or no picks. The Mavs gave up multiple picks for Doncic and Porzingas, but the former was a trade-up in the draft and the latter was a much bigger gamble than people acknowledge.
Second, unless you think White and Murray are just blech players, it doesn't make sense to piss on the Spurs' ability to use those picks to get better than "known NBA quantities". It's not an accident that the team gets "steals" every year. If they see the forward equivalents of Murray and White (say KZ Okpala and Brandon Clarke), I'd rather let them decide how badly they want to keep their picks.
That makes two of you.
DAF86
02-04-2019, 06:19 PM
Davis and Salomon Hill
For
Middleton, Bledsoe, DeVicenzo, Maker and multiple draft picks
Does NOLA go for it? Is it worth it for the Bucks?
Rosewood
02-04-2019, 06:19 PM
Pau for AD straight up, book it Pop
Hoops Czar
02-04-2019, 06:21 PM
Tatum, Brown and a couple good picks is an offer that blows the Lakers offer out of the water. And if I'm the Celtics, I do it in a second.
The only reason AD's camp is saying Celtics didn't make "the list" is because they want the Pelicans to trade AD before the deadline and he literally can't be traded to the Celtics until the summer. Come summertime, if AD is still on the Pelicans, the Celtics will suddenly be an approved team.
Clippers would be a better long term destination than the Lakers. Kawhi, AD and possibly Kyrie would kill it in the Western conference. When Lebron Retires/declines, the Lakers situation wouldn't be much different than the Hornet's current situation especially if they have to gut the roster for Davis.
KDKSpurs24
02-04-2019, 06:22 PM
Davis and Salomon Hill
For
Middleton, Bledsoe, DeVicenzo, Maker and multiple draft picks
Does NOLA go for it? Is it worth it for the Bucks?
im not sure. But I do see the best of the buyout players going to the bucks if this happens though. But could they get enough chemistry by playoff time that exceeds the current Bucks?
RC_Drunkford
02-04-2019, 06:29 PM
LaVar Ball doing work right now saying Lonzo won't play for NOLA he wants him on the Suns. Good to see him destroy Lonzo's trade value, even though it's not that big anyway. I hope Demps
doesn't fall for that Lakers offer. That offer will still be there this summer along with better offers from other teams like the Knicks, Bucks and Celtics. Don't give in
gambit1990
02-04-2019, 07:33 PM
i’d like for irving to be dealt to the pelicans.
Dverde
02-04-2019, 07:42 PM
LaVar Ball doing work right now saying Lonzo won't play for NOLA he wants him on the Suns. Good to see him destroy Lonzo's trade value, even though it's not that big anyway. I hope Demps
doesn't fall for that Lakers offer. That offer will still be there this summer along with better offers from other teams like the Knicks, Bucks and Celtics. Don't give in
I’d rather get Hart and avoid the Lonzo circus.
Dverde
02-04-2019, 07:45 PM
None of those players are worth a shit, and the picks will be garbage if Davis teams up with LeBron. NO would be stupid to do it.
:spin Yesterday, you were preaching the value of first round picks. Today they are garbage if from the Lakers.
exstatic
02-04-2019, 08:07 PM
:spin Yesterday, you were preaching the value of first round picks. Today they are garbage if from the Lakers.
Valuable to the Spurs. They know how to draft, and actually, the picks aren’t the worst part of the trade, the players are. The picks just don’t move the needle.
Leetonidas
02-04-2019, 08:12 PM
:spin Yesterday, you were preaching the value of first round picks. Today they are garbage if from the Lakers.
The 29th or 30th pick in two consecutive years and scrubs for a top 5 player is completely different than potentially two picks in one year from 18-28. Especially more valuable to a team that drafts and develops well like SA. For a team like NO that will be rebuilding for awhile in the lottery an extra pick at the end of the first round ain't worth it
ace3g
02-04-2019, 08:19 PM
https://twitter.com/jonjohnsonwip/status/1092495740679712769
spurraider21
02-04-2019, 08:24 PM
brewer has done an admiral job carving a career for himself despite being an awful shooter. wouldn't mind taking a flier on him. he'd just be a better version of cunningham for us
RC_Drunkford
02-04-2019, 09:27 PM
brewer has done an admiral job carving a career for himself despite being an awful shooter. wouldn't mind taking a flier on him. he'd just be a better version of cunningham for us
Cunningham shoots 50% from 3
spurraider21
02-04-2019, 09:31 PM
Cunningham shoots 50% from 3
he's 34% from his career, so that number is clearly an outlier. besides, the volume is non-existent, rendering the % moot
Strategic
02-04-2019, 09:52 PM
https://twitter.com/jonjohnsonwip/status/1092495740679712769This guy must have some terrible breath. I thought he did a good job last year for the Thunder after Andre Robinson went down. He wanted to stay but Presti wasn’t interested. I don’t know. Decent journeyman.
Pavlov
02-04-2019, 09:57 PM
Brewer's fine for what he is but no one is going to feel pressured to sign him for the season at this point. Too many other options out there.
ceperez
02-04-2019, 10:22 PM
https://twitter.com/jonjohnsonwip/status/1092495740679712769
Well, Spurs could use another SF.
John B
02-04-2019, 10:53 PM
Patty Melt!!!
KDKSpurs24
02-04-2019, 11:17 PM
I’d love to move Forbes plus a pick for a good SF at the deadline. And it would be good to package Pau for something and then somehow also land Thon Maker as a replacement. I’d be ecstatic. Most likely unrealistic so there’s no need for me to get my hopes up but no one from the buyout market is going to want to come here.
Duncan87
02-04-2019, 11:47 PM
Buyout list 1 Warriors 2 Lakers 3 Rockets 4 Boston. Mayyyyyybe Spurs 5th bad idea for Spurs to rely on buyout market
RC_Drunkford
02-05-2019, 06:37 AM
Buyout list 1 Warriors 2 Lakers 3 Rockets 4 Boston. Mayyyyyybe Spurs 5th bad idea for Spurs to rely on buyout market
OKC and Philly should be ahead as well
MoSpur02
02-05-2019, 11:28 AM
Who says no?
Spurs trade Derozan and Forbes to Orlando fro Gordon and Ross
szkorhetz
02-05-2019, 11:33 AM
Who says no?
Spurs trade Derozan and Forbes to Orlando fro Gordon and Ross
Both teams
RC_Drunkford
02-05-2019, 11:52 AM
Who says no?
Spurs trade Derozan and Forbes to Orlando fro Gordon and Ross
no. Ross apparently costs 2 2nd-round picks only. If you can get Gordon for some type of Pau Gasol + Bryn Forbes + Raptors pick go ahead and do it, otherwise wait til the offseason. Definitely go after Ross though, those low 2nd-round picks won't make our roster anyway
FireMicoHalili
02-05-2019, 12:08 PM
Not sure about Snell’s defense but the Bucks are rumored to be shopping him around.
lmbebo
02-05-2019, 01:45 PM
Anyone up for Wall trade? 160 million over next 4 years or something Just tore his Achilles.... Can't get better than that!
slick'81
02-05-2019, 02:42 PM
So tor is offering lowry and val for conley and gasol
lmbebo
02-05-2019, 02:52 PM
Lowry wants out of Toronto... he's sucked of late. Conley big upgrade for Toronto. Lowry didn't deserve all star invite this year. Fell off quickly.
Val is injured, but apparently means a lot to the toronto defense. Not sure where he is financially. I think would be a good trade for Toronto...
Chillen
02-05-2019, 03:01 PM
People forget when Memphis made the WCF with great play from Conley and Gasol. Perhaps they are just bored in Memphis at this point, maybe a change of scenery will help their games.
Toronto should do this deal because even if Kawhi leaves they will still have a good team in the East.
BG_Spurs_Fan
02-05-2019, 03:04 PM
Grizzlies have to be mad to make such a deal.
Pavlov
02-05-2019, 03:07 PM
Grizzlies have to be mad to make such a deal.They can blow up the team a year earlier.
exstatic
02-05-2019, 03:10 PM
Grizzlies have to be mad to make such a deal.
Why do people like you insist on seeing trades only from a talent perspective? It's painfully obvious that not only has Memphis peaked, they're seriously beginning to slide backwards, and need to rebuild. To do that, they need to dump huge long term contracts. This trade accomplishes that. This shit has been going on since Orlando in 1999, and people still don't understand.
Chillen
02-05-2019, 03:13 PM
They could probably quickly flip Lowry for picks, etc. So this trade would be a salary dump for Memphis, not a talent for talent trade. Conley and Gasol also will be in the East, so Memphis should take this deal. For Toronto this deal makes sense in case Kawhi leaves, they still have a good team.
BG_Spurs_Fan
02-05-2019, 03:16 PM
Why do people like you insist on seeing trades only from a talent perspective? It's painfully obvious that not only has Memphis peaked, they're seriously beginning to slide backwards, and need to rebuild. To do that, they need to dump huge long term contracts. This trade accomplishes that. This shit has been going on since Orlando in 1999, and people still don't understand.
Meh, it's not about the talent only, you're essentially saying they simply want to dump both but no team would do it for expirings so they'll have to take on Lowry's terrible deal and the possibility of Jonas opting in. With this deal they'll be just in line to gift Boston the No.1 pick in 2021.
exstatic
02-05-2019, 03:17 PM
They can blow up the team a year earlier.
Conley will likely vest 2020-2021 by playing 55 games this year for the first time since his contract kicked in, so, two years. Bad timing for Memphis, but he has way too little tread left on the tires to build around, even if this health 'scare' is a mirage.
BG_Spurs_Fan
02-05-2019, 03:20 PM
They can blow up the team a year earlier.
Perfect timing to blow it up - when they'll owe their pick to Boston, unprotected (unless they're decent next year).
Degoat
02-05-2019, 03:45 PM
Seems like things are quiet around the league considering the trade deadline is in 2 days
exstatic
02-05-2019, 04:13 PM
Seems like things are quiet around the league considering the trade deadline is in 2 days
:lol Everything heats up about an hour before the deadline. Happens every year.
Dverde
02-05-2019, 04:17 PM
Seems like things are quiet around the league considering the trade deadline is in 2 days
It’s a holding pattern as most teams are offering second round picks. It’ll be a flurry of activities once teams lose out on their primary trade targets. Spurs could have pick of the litter offering a first rounder now.
MoSpur02
02-05-2019, 04:19 PM
Memphis is stupid it they trade for Lowry. Super overrated player. Besides the obvious, why does Toronto want Gasol and Conley? To try to convince Kawhi to return after this season? Or preparing for life without him after this season?
r0drig0lac
02-05-2019, 04:29 PM
Memphis is stupid it they trade for Lowry. Super overrated player. Besides the obvious, why does Toronto want Gasol and Conley? To try to convince Kawhi to return after this season? Or preparing for life without him after this season?
both
Dverde
02-05-2019, 04:30 PM
Toronto should be trying to trade for Juice Simmons and Dedmon :lol Tick tock :lol
sasaint
02-05-2019, 04:37 PM
both
I'm not sure that Conley or Gasol would be a great inducement for Kawhi to stay.
MoSpur02
02-05-2019, 04:39 PM
Memphis is stupid it they trade for Lowry. Super overrated player. Besides the obvious, why does Toronto want Gasol and Conley? To try to convince Kawhi to return after this season? Or preparing for life without him after this season?
lmbebo
02-05-2019, 04:47 PM
Memphis is stupid it they trade for Lowry. Super overrated player. Besides the obvious, why does Toronto want Gasol and Conley? To try to convince Kawhi to return after this season? Or preparing for life without him after this season?
Get money off of the books sooner than Conley. They are in tank/rebuild mode. Conley > Lowry. Gasol prob upgrade over Val. Esp in the east.
GreekSpursfan
02-05-2019, 04:48 PM
Toronto wants to go all in this season because they know Kawhi is as good as gone but the deal doesn't make sense for Memphis since they probably want picks or young pieces in any deal.
exstatic
02-05-2019, 04:56 PM
Toronto wants to go all in this season because they know Kawhi is as good as gone but the deal doesn't make sense for Memphis since they probably want picks or young pieces in any deal.
Nope. Before you collect the young players and picks, your cap sheet has to be clean. NO ONE is trading them young players OR picks for a couple of 30-somethings that make a ton of money. When your cap sheet is clean, you rent your cap space out a year at a time for youngsters or picks. When you collect enough of both, your team will take off.
tbdog
02-05-2019, 06:14 PM
So Wall fell over at home and raptured his Achilles? How does that work.
DPG21920
02-05-2019, 06:16 PM
1092920539365150723
Duncan87
02-05-2019, 06:19 PM
DAMN
Duncan87
02-05-2019, 06:20 PM
Spurs simply have nothingto offer Thoght he could have spelled LTrain when he goes to bench
Dverde
02-05-2019, 06:55 PM
Gasol gives them a punchers chance in the East.
gambit1990
02-05-2019, 07:05 PM
things are heating up.
UnWantedTheory
02-05-2019, 07:09 PM
Spurs simply have nothingto offer Thoght he could have spelled LTrain when he goes to benchIt's likely they don't want to for the price tag, or at least they shouldn't want to.
emanueldavidginobili
02-05-2019, 07:13 PM
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Much prefer his brother getting moved instead.
Chillen
02-05-2019, 07:13 PM
Spurs simply have nothingto offer Thoght he could have spelled LTrain when he goes to bench
Pau, Forbes works straight up for Marc. For Memphis Pau is an expiring and he gets to play for the team that drafted him again. That's probably to much for Marc tbh, I would like to keep Forbes maybe add Belli.
emanueldavidginobili
02-05-2019, 07:22 PM
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sasaint
02-05-2019, 07:27 PM
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Gone to Charlotte to play with Tony.
ceperez
02-05-2019, 07:42 PM
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Wow... pretty much gone!
Dverde
02-05-2019, 07:48 PM
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Garbage bags are classless. Spurs giving Pau Gasol six million dollar parachute on his way out.
loveforthegame
02-05-2019, 08:14 PM
:lol
https://mobile.twitter.com/SInow/status/1092945697572294657
timtonymanu
02-05-2019, 08:15 PM
Marc will be a Spur in 4 years I’m sure.
Leetonidas
02-05-2019, 08:17 PM
:lol
https://mobile.twitter.com/SInow/status/1092945697572294657
:lmao :lmao
MoSpur02
02-05-2019, 08:20 PM
Damn. Pacers fans are actually speaking the truth. That's frkn awesome.
MoSpur02
02-05-2019, 08:24 PM
If Batum is part of the trade to Memphis, I don't see them keeping him. I think he'd be bought out. If that happens that would be good pickup for the Spurs.
Dverde
02-05-2019, 08:25 PM
Ingram is such an overhyped player. Spurs dodged a bullet with that trade. Crazy that Lakers had a death grip on him.
r0drig0lac
02-05-2019, 08:26 PM
Marc will be a Spur in 6 years I’m sure.
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Dverde
02-05-2019, 08:28 PM
If Batum is part of the trade to Memphis, I don't see them keeping him. I think he'd be bought out. If that happens that would be good pickup for the Spurs.
Batum isn’t going anywhere.
emanueldavidginobili
02-05-2019, 08:37 PM
Ingram is such an overhyped player. Spurs dodged a bullet with that trade. Crazy that Lakers had a death grip on him.
He’s 21 years old, let’s give him a couple more years. He’s averaging 17-5-3 on 48% shooting. He will be fine.
Indianman
02-05-2019, 08:38 PM
Did you guys check the BR tweet out that the Lakers opting out of the trade for AD since they're unwilling to provide 6-8 draft picks for him?
Indianman
02-05-2019, 08:39 PM
He’s 21 years old, let’s give him a couple more years
But the Lakers suck at developing players.
r0drig0lac
02-05-2019, 08:45 PM
Washburn starting for Memphis
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