Volunteers face prison after leaving food and water in desert where migrants died

[phxspurfan]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/us/arizona-aid-volunteers-guilty-trespassing-trnd/index.html

The volunteers, who are part of the No More Deaths ministry of the Unitarian Universalist Church of Tucson, could be sentenced to up to six months in prison and fined up to $500 after they were convicted Friday by Federal Magistrate Bernardo Velasco.

The volunteers were charged with entering a national wildlife refuge without a permit and abandonment of property, according to a statement from the aid group.

[hater]

I would go jail proud for such an amazing act

[Chris]

It's all fun and games until you break the law.

[Chris]

"what is the law good for then?" fucking faggot

lol triggered

[Winehole23]

Chris takes the side of power and principalities against the stranger.

[Winehole23]

and also against the good Samaritan...

[ducks]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/us/arizona-aid-volunteers-guilty-trespassing-trnd/index.html

The volunteers, who are part of the No More Deaths ministry of the Unitarian Universalist Church of Tucson, could be sentenced to up to six months in prison and fined up to $500 after they were convicted Friday by Federal Magistrate Bernardo Velasco.

The volunteers were charged with entering a national wildlife refuge without a permit and abandonment of property, according to a statement from the aid group.break law you should pay price

[ducks]

Fuck the judge if they have to pay anything let alone any jail time. Fucking faggot.


So a judge is suppose to make his law
I thought judges were suppose to look at law and uphold it not write law
They already have judges that think they can write own law

[ducks]

and also against the good Samaritan...


Why did they not give food to the people in 3 world countries and fix issue there ?

[ducks]

Fuck the judge if they have to pay anything let alone any jail time. Fucking faggot.
I am sure some nut will put a go fund me page and those people will make 100k

[ducks]

Chris takes the side of power and principalities against the stranger.why are they not sleeping at your house?

[ElNono]

Not the first time a verdict like that was overturned in appeals...

[Winehole23]

Why did they not give food to the people in 3 world countries and fix issue there ?it is 100% legal to seek asylum in the US, regardless of the manner of entry.

it is 100% moral to help them survive.

[ducks]

it is 100% legal to seek asylum in the US, regardless of the manner of entry.

it is 100% moral to help them survive.is it not moral to not break law and not spend 6 months in prison be able to take care of their 3 year old kid

[ducks]

it is 100% legal to seek asylum in the US, regardless of the manner of entry.

it is 100% moral to help them survive.


Seeking it is fine breaking laws to do so is not

[Winehole23]

Seeking it is fine breaking laws to do so is notit is 100% legal to seek asylum in the US regardless of the manner of entry.

[ducks]

it is 100% legal to seek asylum in the US regardless of the manner of entry.

These volonteers broke the law they should be punished .
If not it will encourage others to saw who cares what laws says!
Let’s just start breaking laws people will look the other way!

[Winehole23]

El Paso, Texas: still one of the safest big cities in the USA

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/01/17/Low-crime-in-El-Paso-predates-wall-smugglers-are-US-citizens/9331547736878/

[ElNono]

These people have good intentions, IMO, they're just in the wrong State.

Noteworthy, the previous conviction for the same crime was during the previous administration:

Friday’s verdict is the first conviction against humanitarian aid volunteers along the U.S.-Mexico border since 2009, when a federal judge found another No More Deaths volunteer guilty of littering for dropping off water jugs at the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge, west of Nogales.

A year before, Dan Millis was found guilty of littering on the Buenos Aires refuge. However, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturned his conviction.

Other charges brought against humanitarian aid groups and volunteers mostly had been dismissed.

[CosmicCowboy]

it is 100% legal to seek asylum in the US, regardless of the manner of entry.

it is 100% moral to help them survive.

Congress needs to move the asylum process online and through the various state department embassies and end the practice of declaring at the border.

[boutons_deux]

If the CBP Schutzstaffel find the water containers, they empty them, increasing migrant deaths, just like any good Christian American would.

[benefactor]

Look on the bright side, at least ducks isn't the president...oh wait...

[Blake]

lol triggered

Fake Christian Chris

[Blake]

lol triggered

Fake Christian Chris

[Blake]

The volunteers were charged with entering a national wildlife refuge without a permit and abandonment of property, according to a statement from the aid group.

That's the issue, not really the helping of illegals

[Winehole23]

Congress needs to move the asylum process online and through the various state department embassies and end the practice of declaring at the border.Odd that the Republican Congress sat on its hands for two years during this intolerable crisis.

[CosmicCowboy]

Odd that the Republican Congress sat on its hands for two years during this intolerable crisis.

Why is it always red team v blue team with you? They both should be ashamed they can't get rational immigration reform done.

[Winehole23]

Why is it always red team v blue team with you? They both should be ashamed they can't get rational immigration reform done.however true this may be, only red team had the power to do it all on their own from 2016-2018.

is there some good reason you refuse to hold them accountable for their inaction?

[CosmicCowboy]

however true this may be, only red team had the power to do it all on their own from 2016-2018.

is there some good reason you refuse to hold them accountable for their inaction?

Blue Team had the power 2009-2011

is there a good reason you refuse to hold them accountable for their inaction?

why can't you agree they both suck?

[CosmicCowboy]

however true this may be, only red team had the power to do it all on their own from 2016-2018.

is there some good reason you refuse to hold them accountable for their inaction?

Blue team had complete control 2009-2011.

is there some good reason you refuse to hold them accountable for their inaction?

Why can't you admit they both suck and don't really want to solve the problem?

[Spurs Homer]

break law you should pay price

I agree.

Should trump be indicted and go to prison now for those two felony campaign violations that he is an official co-conspirator of?
It is a legal court filing in a case where Cohen has plead guilty and has affirmed that Trump ordered him to.

Should trump pay the price for breaking these laws?

[clambake]

the difference is suddenly its a crisis.

[DarrinS]

the difference is suddenly its a crisis.


Strange how media described it as a crisis only a few years back. I guess it was all solved by prev. admin.

[Winehole23]

Blue team had complete control 2009-2011.

is there some good reason you refuse to hold them accountable for their inaction?I criticized their ham-handed enforcement only approach just like I do the present administration.

[Winehole23]

lol @ CC, the reasonable centrist who refuses to criticize Republicans unless Democrats are criticized at the same time, for the same thing.

[CosmicCowboy]

lol @ CC, the reasonable centrist who refuses to criticize Republicans unless Democrats are criticized at the same time, for the same thing.

Honestly, it's just a general disgust with both parties for the partisan bickering, political games, and talking points without ever solving real problems. We are all being played for fools.

[Winehole23]

face it CC, there's only one party that's using the totem of border enforcement and President as an excuse to furlough hundreds of thousands of USG government workers or make them work for free.

that's not negotiation, that's a hostage situation.

Trump and McConnell are screwing public servants.

[Winehole23]

the collateral effects are mounting. the real economy needs the government, too.

[CosmicCowboy]

face it CC, there's only one party that's using the totem of border enforcement and President as an excuse to furlough hundreds of thousands of USG government workers or make them work for free.

that's not negotiation, that's a hostage situation.

Trump and McConnell are screwing public servants.

bullshit. Pelosi is scared shitless of the new radicals in her party and is petrified of compromising one inch.

There has to be a compromise that reasonable adults could come to if they both actually negotiated in good faith.

[Pavlov]

lol "petrified"

[boutons_deux]

Pelosi knows that Trash, and a majority of Senate Repugs, have screwed themselves about the wall to pander to their cultivated, white male racist base, so she's not going to give them any way out.

It's fucking hilarious, my schadenfreude is deliciously without limit

[clambake]

Strange how media described it as a crisis only a few years back. I guess it was all solved by prev. admin.

strange how the crisis is amplified by a guy that hires illegals.

[Pavlov]

Strange how media described it as a crisis only a few years back. I guess it was all solved by prev. admin. Weren't there many more unaccompanied minors crossing back then?

Maybe you should Google that.

[Winehole23]

bullshit. Pelosi is scared shitless of the new radicals in her party and is petrified of compromising one inch.

There has to be a compromise that reasonable adults could come to if they both actually negotiated in good faith.CC still refuses to let any cross word about the GOP transpire, but loosens his tongue to disparage Democrats.

[Winehole23]

bullshit. Pelosi is scared shitless of the new radicals in her party and is petrified of compromising one inch.

There has to be a compromise that reasonable adults could come to if they both actually negotiated in good faith.What's wrong with the bill the Senate passed on a unanimous voice vote just before the new House majority was seated?

It was practically the first bill passed out of the House in the new session.

Where did Republican unanimity go on that one? There were more than enough votes to override a veto and get government back to work.



Oh, that's right, Trump got his marching orders from co-Presidents Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh and welshed on the agreement.

[Blake]

Strange how media described it as a crisis only a few years back. I guess it was all solved by prev. admin.

Link?

[Pavlov]

Link?I Googled it since Derwood is such a pussy.

In spring and summer 2014, the number of children reached a crisis point. During fiscal year 2014 (October 2013-September 2014), 68,541 unaccompanied children were apprehended at the US/Mexico border— a 77 percent increase over the previous year.

https://www.vox.com/2014/10/10/18088638/child-migrant-crisis-unaccompanied-alien-children-rio-grande-valley-obama-immigration

And it was described as such.

An actual crisis.

Not the same as today.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2MRPhSwwAY



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkOevUKwOCw

^:lol chyron at 0:40

[Pavlov]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2MRPhSwwAY



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkOevUKwOCw

^:lol chyron at 0:40Do you consider the border situation to be a crisis today, Darrin?

Yes or no.

[ElNono]

Honestly, it's just a general disgust with both parties for the partisan bickering, political games, and talking points without ever solving real problems. We are all being played for fools.

:lol Come on CC, *now* you're offended with Congress inaction, brinkmanship and partisanship? Where was all this complaining when Mitch was filibustering everything?

I remember there was a group of GOP senators looking to address this (IIRC, Rubio and the late McCain were in it) when Barry was re-elected, and were completely shut down by their own Senate. It was ok to kick the can the, but not now?

[hater]

Congress needs to move the asylum process online and through the various state department embassies and end the practice of declaring at the border.

Lol they cannot end the practice of asking for asylum at the border :lol

Its in the UN human rights documents yo be able to do this and international courts

[Pavlov]

:lol online asylum

[hater]

:lmao

Here is some info niga :lol

This refugee definition is based on international law, specifically the 1951 UN Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees. The U.S. is not a signatory to this Convention, but did sign on to its 1967 Protocol, which incorporates the Convention by reference. The Refugee Convention requires state parties to protect people living within their borders and prohibits them from sending people to other countries where they would be harmed based on their race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. With the Refugee Act of 1980, the U.S. brought the refugee definition into our domestic law. The refugee definition is found at section 101(a)(42) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).

[CosmicCowboy]

Lol they cannot end the practice of asking for asylum at the border :lol

Its in the UN human rights documents yo be able to do this and international courts

Asylum is covered in article 14

Article 14.

(1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
(2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

It doesn't say anything about how the right to asylum has be administered and explicitly gives countries the right to reject economic and non-political asylum requests .

[hater]

I assumed most asylum requests include them being afraid to return to their countries for safety reasons

Apologies if Im wrong but a smart asylum seeker would put that down tbqh

[Fabbs]

What does Honduras do if U.S. citizen asylum seeker shows up?
Mexico?
El Salvador?

[hater]

What does Honduras do if U.S. citizen asylum seeker shows up?
Mexico?
El Salvador?

They accept it and process it as required by international law