Game Thread: Spurs @ 76ers — Wed. (1/23) - 7:00/C (3:00am Riga Time)

[Rosewood]

Reddick was just shaking his head lol

[resistanze]

BDB

[007nites]

The master of the fadeaway 3

[TimmyBuckets]

B3LIN3LI!!! This dude can do a somersault in the air and still hit the shot.

[Spurtacular]

https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-pdb/1245924/bd0ef070-3189-4348-ad65-afe3ba9923ad/orig

[skin27]

7 players in double figures

[ElNono]

We lose this game if that's Manu instead of Big balls Belli tbfh

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/RapidInconsequentialJavalina-small.gif

[RD2191]

:lol spurms

[Rummpd]

Darn

[timtonymanu]

Man fuck this team and their choking habits

[Leetonidas]

You've got to be fucking kidding me dude. Twice?? Get your fucking head out of your ass

[RD2191]

:lmao spurs and choking like faggots. Its tradition.

[Robz4000]

:lmao Spurs

[timtonymanu]

Spurs are so pathetic

[bbarry]

Up 8 with 2 minutes to go. Blown lead. Never surprised anymore.

[GreekSpursfan]

The choke is bigger than Belli balls

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Un-fucking believable

[SPURt]

That lead went away quickly

[RD2191]

I'm done with this fucking trash team if they lose this.

[ElNono]

keep going to DePression, smh

[resistanze]

:lmao meltdown

[skin27]

spurms:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Our Big (career losers) 3 showed up this last minute

[Leetonidas]

This is so fucking pathetic. Absolutely disgusting

[Cry Havoc]

2 4 point plays gifted to the 6ers in one quarter. Fucking amazing.

[Robz4000]

Seriously, fuck this Spurs team.

[Capt Bringdown]

Fucking Gay

[boutons_deux]

ah fuck it

[Spurs da champs]

:lmao that's the 2nd Rudy Gay 4 point play given up.

[bbarry]

:lmao

[Xx_SpursNation_xX]

HAHAHAHAHA ya'll thought the spurms were gonna win. HAHAH bellineli and his passsing.

[RD2191]

:lmao :lmao fuck these faggots

[Capt Bringdown]

Terrible lineup

[timtonymanu]

I hope Spurs miss the playoffs if they lose this game. Whats the point of a playoff series if we're just gonna lose in 4-5 games to any team?

[Spurtacular]

Announcers not questioning that call...

[emanueldavidginobili]

9-0 run in a fucking minute. Comedy

[SpurPadre]

Chokers doing choker things, tbh.

[007nites]

They have way too much momentum were done

[skin27]

Fuck gay!!!

[ElNono]

smh, Manu could make an entry pass...

[RD2191]

This is just wow.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Spurs actually had to put a good amount of effort in to choke this badly

[resistanze]

DeRozan running to corner per par :lol

[Bill_Brasky]

Both of those 4 pt plays were pure garbage by the officials.

[GreekSpursfan]

Belli giveth, Belli taketh away.

[Cry Havoc]

WHAT A BLOCK

[Chinook]

Seriously, this is one of the worst big games I've ever seen. LMA has sonned Embiid one-on-one all game. I've never seen Aldridge play better D than this.

[Bill_Brasky]

Cannot buy a call

[timtonymanu]

:lol Spurms
:lol Depression
:lol Rudy Gay your 3rd option
:lol predictable 1st round exit team

[Leetonidas]

What an absolute joke. I'm so fucking pissed. That was BEYOND choking wtf man WHY ARE YOU DRIBBLING THE FUCKING BALL FOR 14 SECONDS DIPSHIT

[RD2191]

:lmao :lmao just retire pop. Fucking faggotry.

[GreekSpursfan]

and Dechoke with the finishing touches. This fucking team.

[Trill Clinton]

Pop just can't get enough of DeRozan in the clutch.

[Rosewood]

Jeeze Derozan........

[timtonymanu]

:lmao :lmao just retire pop. Fucking faggotry.

All smiles like usual. He loves giving away games these days.

[TimmyBuckets]

Vintage DePression

[007nites]

DePression

[emanueldavidginobili]

Incredible. Can’t be mad though, if you think of the long term season. Spurs aren’t winning it all this season. Still sucks to see them blow games.

[TheGoatishere]

Unbelievable

[Degoat]

Man.... what the hell

[TimmyBuckets]

Trade DePression for a bag of pubes

[resistanze]

DeFrozen ISO. Awful playcalling.

[bklynspursfan]

Demar questionably got fouled on his last 2 drives . We'll see what we get.

Marco for the win would be great.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Can’t wait to see what Pop draws up lmao

[Leetonidas]

Derozan did get absolutely clobbered on that shot though. And beli was clearly fouled and the last 3 he hit. Massive choke but fuck these trash refs

[TheGreatYacht]

Oh boy, out of timeout Poop :lmao here we go

Incoming Forbes 3

[RD2191]

No words for this bitchassness.

[TimmyBuckets]

Fuck this garbage team. Fuck DeNothing

[ElNono]

tbh, took a closer like Manu for granted for so many seasons, this is hard to watch...

[timtonymanu]

Apparently experts think this team has enough depth but they lose to Jimmy Butler/Lou Williams less teams :lol

[sananspursfan21]

I am so sorry for ever thinking this team was actually good

[Leetonidas]

This be better be drawn up for Marco

[emanueldavidginobili]

It’s insane I’m fully confident with a 41 year old Manu we would have atleast 4-6 more wins this season. That’s insane

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Can we bring Manu back and just send DePression packing smhhh

[RD2191]

Apparently experts think this team has enough depth but they lose to Jimmy Butler/Lou Williams less teams :lol

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

lma with uncontested rb for the win and couldnt grab it

[sananspursfan21]

Credit Embiid but this is a Jimmy Butler-less team. This should have been a win. 8-0 run with the stupidest foul on a 3 pointer

[Xx_SpursNation_xX]

Let me guess Derozan get's the ball.

[SpurPadre]

Incredible. Can’t be mad though, if you think of the long term season. Spurs aren’t winning it all this season. Still sucks to see them blow games.

Just look how Belinelli turned the ball over in regulation against the Thunder when every other team would've forced them to get fouled. This team has piss poor 4th quarter execution.

[skin27]

The meltdown:lol

[SpursDynasty85]

Derrick needs to shoot more at clutch time. A bit too hesitant. Just ramp it up a little more and I think we got something. Otherwise, Derozan can be very frustrating. We still have Aldridge needing his touches too.

[007nites]

Fuck this garbage team. Fuck DeNothing

1. DePression
2. DeFrozen
3. DeNothing

[timtonymanu]

rofl that went exactly as expected

[Leetonidas]

Absolutely disgusting. Fuck this team

[Xx_SpursNation_xX]

Bellifagg couldn't get open.

[RD2191]

:lmao what an embarrassment fucking losers:lmao

[MVPCues]

That was a disgrace.

[phxspurfan]

Beli got held but DeMar shouldve been in the game

[ElNono]

:lmao det inbound play

[SPURt]

That was mmmmmm.... bad?

[Play Boban]

BURN IT DOWN

[Barfunk]

rofl that went exactly as expected

Exactly.

[Robz4000]

I've never hated a Spurs team more than this one.

[SpurPadre]

Apparently experts think this team has enough depth but they lose to Jimmy Butler/Lou Williams less teams :lol

These experts also think Conley is beneath this team lol

[$pursDynasty]

Pop pulled Defrozen 3 minutes too late.

[Play Boban]

Can’t expect to win without MVBertans tbh.

[emanueldavidginobili]

11-0 run to end the game. Hilariousssss. Spurs lack heart and balls

[Spurs da champs]

Pop is just getting worse and worse with these end of game plays, lmao.

[DarrinS]

Choke

[Spurtacular]

Dunno what was worse; the play call or the execution. And yea, put DeRozan instead of Mills. Midget's not shooting over anyone.

[StinkyWeezleteats]

Fitting end to the game for this team. Even my daughter's JV basketball team can pass the ball in from out of bounds. Just bad all around.

[Larry O]

DePoision, SMH... Killed US!

[Spurs fever]

What a choke job...

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

There's still a shred of hope this team doesn't make the playoffs.

[Chinook]

Too bad they didn't have that second time-out when it was clear no one could get open.

Have no idea why that foul on Simmons wasn't called right after the block. Patty grabbed Ben in the back court with seven seconds left. Would have given the team a much better chance to win. Then again, seven seconds is enough time for a DeRozan iso, so maybe this was for the best.

[GreekSpursfan]

If you ever get your hopes up in the future by a win just remember this game.

[skin27]

We’re gonna suck in the standings!!!fuck!!!

[Degoat]

Bullshit loss, if the spurs really want to complete this year they gotta cut the dead weight, enough of this loyalty crap. seeing mills and gasol pisses me off

[Ibleedslvrnblk]

So many holds on that inbound Sheesh. Took too long to run. DeRozan just wrecked at the rim over and over.

[spurs10]

The Professional and DDR hitting shots

[Robz4000]

:lmao :lmao just retire pop. Fucking faggotry.


All smiles like usual. He loves giving away games these days.

This is what I hate most about the team, albeit there's a lot.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Refs have been fucking us over all year long. It's ridiculous. At some point someone in the team has to say something publicly. I prefer it to be Pop and pick up that Phil Jackson fine but man we are getting terrible calls in like every close game we've been in. Home or road doesn't matter.

[Robz4000]

:lmao :lmao just retire pop. Fucking faggotry.


All smiles like usual. He loves giving away games these days.

This is what I hate most about the team, albeit there's a lot.

[Genovaswitness]

wow wonder what that faggot derozan is crying about now. stupid fucking idiot should've played within the flow of the offense on that last possession. who can we dump him for

[$pursDynasty]

Now I realize why LeBron never sweated the Raptors in the east. Pop needs to either stop coddling him or trade his ass and run the team through LMAlpha

[ElNono]

:pop: "This is a highly sophisticated inbound play, please pay attention to the drawing"

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/9c/97/86/9c97867255e9b528e42f2da49b59ab4e--basketball-drills-alt.jpg

[emanueldavidginobili]

It’s disgraceful. If you’re trying to build up your future player why the fuck is White one the bench at the end? I’d pissed if I was Derrick.

[DejuanorwhatDude]

I've never hated a Spurs team more than this one.

Agreed.

[BD24]

welp, thats to bad. We are a borderline playoff team and need to win games like this if we plan on making it.

[BackHome]

It was a good game to watch Philly is a better team and we almost pulled it out.

[SpursDynasty85]

Belinelli was in quick sand that last play.

[ace3g]

Another 0 point game from Cunningham and 0 defensive impact...

[bbarry]

The Spurs "system" is so flawed. It's basically tailored to give up leads. There is literally no rhythm or flow down the stretch because they try too hard to play within their same system in the last 2-3 minutes of the game as they do the first 45-46 minutes. I can't quite explain it but they try to play too methodical, and when they do that they play very slow and almost try to play too careful, and it makes them very predictable. Add the fact that teams typically toughen up on defense in the last few minutes of games, and it is just a recipe for disasters. I think this is the reason for bad shots and obviously turnovers.

Does anyone else realize what I mean?

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Lol the spurs have physically inferior players. Did y'all see that last possession? They couldn't even get open

[KDKSpurs24]

I have to say this because I’ve been saying this all season. Rudy Gay can score but he has a HORRIBLE basketball IQ and makes the worse decisions. It wasn’t all on him of course but a lot of his decisions caused the Sixers to stay in the game..

Note: this is not about the inbound pass

[emanueldavidginobili]

DDR 3 assist, 6 turnovers

[SpurPadre]

Fuck it. Our Game 7 was the Kabitch game and if we beat that piece of shit again at Toronto, it will be a successful season, tbh. Can't wait til the offseason...

[slick'81]

Ur 3 options were belly,mills and forbes :lol

[Capt Bringdown]

Fuck the inbound play, it was those brain-dead 4pt plays that killed the Spurs.

[timtonymanu]

This is what I hate most about the team, albeit there's a lot.

Yep and when you have guys like Tim and Manu who are hard on themselves after a bad performance or loss. But nope we gotta pamper LMA and give him his mandatory touches to please him and have to make sure we don't make Derozan's fragile mentality get down when he doesn't get calls his way. "it's just basketball" :pop:

[Degoat]

I have to say this because I’ve been saying this all season. Rudy Gay can score but he has a HORRIBLE basketball IQ and makes the worse decisions. It wasn’t all on him of course but a lot of his decisions caused the Sixers to stay in the game..

Note: this is not about the inbound pass

yeah gay was awful the last 2 minutes of the game

[Ragamuffin]

after tonight game dont watch again match... how can lost this game with 8 points + 2 minute to left... i dont can understand

[Chinook]

Another 0 point game from Cunningham and 0 defensive impact...

Cun was fine, especially in a game without Bertans and with Gay in early foul trouble. If he were starting or playing big minutes, I could understand the scorn, but dude came in when the team had a positive stretch and didn't do anything wrong.

[Jsmoothexpress]

Beli got held but DeMar shouldve been in the game

[timtonymanu]

welp, thats to bad. We are a borderline playoff team and need to win games like this if we plan on making it.

Fuck this team, tbh. They already have that shitty approach to some games that they should win but give away because they have this false belief they are still in the Duncan era and can coast through games like in the past. Too many losers on this team. Might as well just wait until next season when DJ comes back.

[Chinook]

Maybe DeRozan wasn't in the game because he head was shot due to getting blocked.

Again, biggest loss about this game is such a fine defensive performance by LMA being wasted. Best big-man defense I've seen since Splitter on Dirk in 2014.

[Jsmoothexpress]

Cun was fine, especially in a game without Bertans and with Gay in early foul trouble. If he were starting or playing big minutes, I could understand the scorn, but dude came in when the team had a positive stretch and didn't do anything wrong.

[Crazymaddopeyo]

58% FG and 48% from three and that’s a loss. Wow, that one hurts.

[$pursDynasty]

Derozan was the kind of player the Spurs used to own back in the Big 3 days. Physically talented but mentally weak.

[Jsmoothexpress]

Maybe DeRozan wasn't in the game because he head was shot due to getting blocked.

Again, biggest loss about this game is such a fine defensive performance by LMA being wasted. Best big-man defense I've seen since Splitter on Dirk in 2014.

[$pursDynasty]

LIke Dwight Howard

[Larry O]

In the Post Game Show, they were questioning as to why DD10 wasn't on the floor. Spurs were going for the win with a 3 pointer which is something DD10 doesn't do, DUH!

[Texas_Ranger]

meh. can't really be mad at a bunch of losers. This team could fuck up a 20pt lead in 2 minutes and it wouldn't surprise me.

[RD2191]

Maybe DeRozan wasn't in the game because he head was shot due to getting blocked.

Again, biggest loss about this game is such a fine defensive performance by LMA being wasted. Best big-man defense I've seen since Splitter on Dirk in 2014.

Tbh who gives a shit? No one's gonna remember. The only thing they'll remember is that the Spurs choked like huge bitches.

[timtonymanu]

Not even Pop and the Spurs "elite" system can take the mental midget out of DeRozan. We're in store for some epic playoff failures from him if the team is lucky to get there.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Derozan did get absolutely clobbered on that shot though. And beli was clearly fouled and the last 3 he hit. Massive choke but fuck these trash refs

yeah the refs were OK almost all of the game considering it's in Philly ... but those last 2 or 3 minutes got my goat. (Spur choked though naturally)

[c whata11]

it's more upsetting that D White was on the bench for that last possession.
Dude just seems invisible out there (offensively) for most of the game, but I don't necessarily blame him for it. He should definitely be able to call his own number more often, but I doubt our 'stars' and Pop would allow that

[Degoat]

Patience has worked before with the spurs but not this team, they gotta shake things up. Desperately need a defensive wing, Jakob can’t defend the post for shit, mills doing more harm then good, 2 rookies on the team that won’t get a chance this year, and Dante and Quincy just doing absolutely nothing positive for the team

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

The Spurs "system" is so flawed. It's basically tailored to give up leads. There is literally no rhythm or flow down the stretch because they try too hard to play within their same system in the last 2-3 minutes of the game as they do the first 45-46 minutes. I can't quite explain it but they try to play too methodical, and when they do that they play very slow and almost try to play too careful, and it makes them very predictable. Add the fact that teams typically toughen up on defense in the last few minutes of games, and it is just a recipe for disasters. I think this is the reason for bad shots and obviously turnovers.

Does anyone else realize what I mean?

imho to "close out" games they tend to go ISO on offense as opposed to their prettier ball movement oriented offense. that could mostly be because they're trying to emphasize running the offense through LMA and DDR their best players.
used to work with Kawhi and Duncan back in the bad and good old days respectively

[Degoat]

Not even Pop and the Spurs "elite" system can take the mental midget out of DeRozan. We're in store for some epic playoff failures from him if the team is lucky to get there.

Frustrating loss but DeMar has hit some major clutch shots this year.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

I'm done with this fucking trash team if they lose this.

well-bye.gif

[slick'81]

Pop melting down in the post game interview

[Degoat]

Pop melting down in the post game interview

Whats he saying?

[TheGreatYacht]

Pop melting down in the post game interview
Deflecting as per usual. Any comments on the shutdown?

[RD2191]

Deflecting as per usual. Any comments on the shutdown?

:lmao

[GreekSpursfan]

While we did have our choking moments, refs played a key role in this game and the loss. Seeing the questionable plays again, Gay never fouled JJR on the 4 point play and Derozan was clearly fouled on his last play.

[emanueldavidginobili]

The sad thing is we have the talent to win these games. I don’t know why we lose these games. Sixers without Butler Bulls without Lauri Dunn and Portis, Clippers without Galinari and Lou and some more I’m forgetting.

[spurs10]

Pop melting down in the post game interview ?

[emanueldavidginobili]

The sad thing is we have the talent to win these games. I don’t know why we lose these games. Sixers without Butler Bulls without Lauri Dunn and Portis, Clippers without Galinari and Lou and some more I’m forgetting.

[KDKSpurs24]

Maybe DeRozan wasn't in the game because he head was shot due to getting blocked.

Again, biggest loss about this game is such a fine defensive performance by LMA being wasted. Best big-man defense I've seen since Splitter on Dirk in 2014.
No I doubt it was because of that because he has missed game winners and come back to hit the game winner in OT this season. For example he did that in the Lakers game.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

The person I trust the most with the ball at the end of the game is Derrick white.

[FkLA]

Man...

[MoSpur02]

Three Things I Hate About This Team:

1. DeMar Derozan picking up his dribble and leaving his feet to pass.

2. Patty Mills' and his pull-up threes with like 18 seconds left on the shot clock.

3. The lack of a defensive wing defender.

[timtonymanu]

Pretty sad that the roster is mostly filled with players who Pop would have roasted a decade ago. Either the players have no defensive skill or have the fragile ego of Richard Jefferson. Hopefully DJ and Lonnie are more hungry when they return next season.

[Budkin]

Best thing about this loss is that it’s more likely we make a trade. Had we gotten this win Pop thinks everything is just fine.

[Jsmoothexpress]

Tbh who gives a shit? No one's gonna remember. The only thing they'll remember is that the Spurs choked like huge bitches.
That’s pretty much what the fuck he said by saying the defensive performance was “wasted”.

[Robz4000]

Best thing about this loss is that it’s more likely we make a trade. Had we gotten this win Pop thinks everything is just fine.

They won't make a trade regardless.

[Jsmoothexpress]

Best thing about this loss is that it’s more likely we make a trade. Had we gotten this win Pop thinks everything is just fine.
I hope that’s the case.

[RD2191]

That’s pretty much what the fuck he said by saying the defensive performance was “wasted”.

:lol no. That's not what he said at all.

[timtonymanu]

Best thing about this loss is that it’s more likely we make a trade. Had we gotten this win Pop thinks everything is just fine.

Lol at a trade happening. People on here already think the team has enough depth.

[RD2191]

Pretty sad that the roster is mostly filled with players who Pop would have roasted a decade ago. Either the players have no defensive skill or have the fragile ego of Richard Jefferson. Hopefully DJ and Lonnie are more hungry when they return next season.

Both of our "stars" are choking faggots tbh. Pop also has a history of choking tendencies tbh.

[timtonymanu]

Both of our "stars" are choking faggots tbh. Pop also has a history of choking tendencies tbh.

Exactly. I know the drop-off from the big 3 to LMA/DDR is expected, but holy shit we have the players now that Spurs fans loved shitting on during the Duncan era.

[MoSpur02]

Derozan is a great athlete, but his basketball IQ isn't great. A shame.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/1088292596160569344

[MASSA]

Honestly not a big deal that DeRozan wasn't on the floor when the options were reasonable. Talking heads just need something to chirp about. Were it me, I'd have had Derozan over Mills though. Mills with a few seconds maybe. But with 1.1 he's not getting a three off unless there's a defensive breakdown that gets him wide open. Pop should know that; but he's too busy shitting his pants on the sideline, honestly.

[spurs10]

Pop melting down in the post game interview Pop was pretty chilled and just sited the obvious. They closed better and won.

[slick'81]

Pop was pretty chilled and just sited the obvious. They closed better and won.

true his usual snarky self.still he seemed upset at the lack of defense and seemed unimpressed with derozan

[TimmyBuckets]

If you ever get your hopes up in the future by a win just remember this game.

[Arcadian]

This game had a heavy rubber-band effect. Every time one team took a lead, the other would come storming back. It was just a matter of who had the last snap of the band.

[NameLess Scrub]

Fell asleep unfortunately.. woke up to

SAS - DeRozan Layup Shot: Missed BLOCK: Chandler (1 BLK)
SAS - DeRozan Foul: Personal (2 PF) (2 FTA) (C Blair)

PHI - FRIGGIN Brewer Free Throw 2 of 2 (9 PTS)


2018-2019 beautiful game was good while it lasted.

[TimmyBuckets]

I hate DeRetard.

[spurs10]

Pop melting down in the post game interview


true his usual snarky self.still he seemed upset at the lack of defense and seemed unimpressed with derozan Some of those questions were pretty lame....in fact they weren't questions. I think he might have meant it that DDR 'played great' but I'm sure the real answer is much more complicated. Our defense, except for LMA and Gay (despite the calls), was non-existent......man the end was terrible.

[Ragamuffin]

i hope we won new orleans... i watch highlight from new orleans detroit , and without davis had problem. and injure and mirotic dont know if will play with spurs... i hope dont play
and after we have 4 games at home 4 wins i think.

[SpurPadre]

If we beat that bitch again at Toronto, all will be forgiven, tbh.

[Slippy]

Pop was pretty chilled and just sited the obvious. They closed better and won.

This but I'm still spewing. This game was in the bag. What irks me most about these closeouts are turnovers . Not getting off a shot under2mins when game is under control, Is a abosolute cockup.

Starts with Demar. Glad to see he was back in form but his handles are still too careless.

[Fireball]

that 9-0 run by Philly in 1 minute was brutal ... fun game though and good to see that Demar still can score

[r0drig0lac]

Lol at a trade happening. People on here already think the team has enough depth.

lmao this

[duncan2k5]

Bullshit loss, if the spurs really want to complete this year they gotta cut the dead weight, enough of this loyalty crap. seeing mills and gasol pisses me off

But I'm the bad guy for saying it... Been saying that since last year... Why the fuck do we have to be loyal to Gasol? The guy didn't even want to play with us when he was good... He just came here for a retirement check

[duncan2k5]

It was a good game to watch Philly is a better team and we almost pulled it out.

That's what bad teams say

[duncan2k5]

DDR 3 assist, 6 turnovers

Who cares? The team is having fun and LMA likes him (for now)

[vavvi]

Three Things I Hate About This Team:

1. DeMar Derozan picking up his dribble and leaving his feet to pass.

2. Patty Mills' and his pull-up threes with like 18 seconds left on the shot clock.

3. The lack of a defensive wing defender.

I'd go with:

1. The lack of a defensive wing defender

2. The lack of a defensive wing defender

3. The lack of a defensive wing defender

[paperboy77]

Three Things I Hate About This Team:

1. DeMar Derozan picking up his dribble and leaving his feet to pass.

2. Patty Mills' and his pull-up threes with like 18 seconds left on the shot clock.

3. The lack of a defensive wing defender.

Dont forget 4... Pop’s quickly declining coaching greatness

[kaji157]

All in all, considering we are just playing to build on the team confidence, it's good that DeMar for out of his slump.
Also we need to factor that is good that we are not peaking now after all.
I trust Pop still.