Is Pop just an 'ok' coach without Hall of Famers?

[King Chez]

I've had guys try to convince me that Pop is the GOAT or close to it, but now without Duncan, Robinson back in the day, Ginobili/Parker, he's not producing. He still has all-stars on his team but the results are just... meh?

[RD2191]

Trollolol. And no, the 2014 run made him the GOAT imo tbh

[Crazymaddopeyo]

Working miracles with this team. Don’t know what your ignorant ass is talking about.

[John B]

Beautiful Game that sent Banana Boat packing, yeap! He’s the GOAT. This season has a lot of adversaries with new guys, injured players, not enough time together yet Spurs in playoff hunt.

[kaji157]

He's been without Hall of famer's (production wise) since 2013 and he got one title.
No player produced Hall of Fame level for the 2014 championship.

If you are just referring to the Hall of famer status, the you'll probably have to wait a full season.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Whose shitty troll is this? :lol

[StinkyWeezleteats]

I've had guys try to convince me that Pop is the GOAT or close to it, but now without Duncan, Robinson back in the day, Ginobili/Parker, he's not producing. He still has all-stars on his team but the results are just... meh?
Lol deer, lol chez

[Duncan87]

:troll:ban: Get out of here wit that BS

[Philthemage]

You can say that about any other coach, Phil Jackson, Steve Kerr, etc

Part of being a great coach is to manage the superstars on your team and bringing out the best in your players

[Mr. Body]

Still one of the greatest, just doesn't have HOF players.

[MultiTroll]

2014 Duncan was the coach.

[King Chez]

Lol deer, lol chez

Greek Freak feta chez is better than Spurs queso fresco

[King Chez]

Lotta flat earthers in this thread

[StinkyWeezleteats]

And just one bandwagoner troll

[paperboy77]

Pop is a great f'n coach. The guy has done it without HOFers. Done what? He's won or been competitive on games they shouldn't. Anyone name a coach that's won a title without HOFers. The only one i know of was Larry Brown with that 04 Pistons team. (Huge, dominant defensive team.) Big difference is that everyone knows great coaches demand respect like a boss would. That in my opinion is key. When players think they run shit that's when coaches get fired. Pop is one of the GOAT's no doubt.

[sananspursfan21]

Ha! Oh, young man (so I presume), you have no idea how the game of basketball works. I feel for you.

[MASSA]

Pop is a middling coach, tbh; and if he is higher it's cos most coaches suck. But the likes of Brad Stevens are better without even having won anything.

[ducks]

Still one of the greatest, just doesn't have HOF players.
Took him forever to adjust
Last two years was terrible
Last year he should have let becky coach while he took care of his wife

But he wanted to hold press conference to hold a “spurs “ press conference to bash the president on spurs time not go on cnn to that

[Dex]

Trollolol. And no, the 2014 run made him the GOAT imo tbh

This.

[spurs10]

Trollolol. And no, the 2014 run made him the GOAT imo tbh ​Word

[apalisoc_9]

Pop is the GOAT coach. Obviously at this point, he is way past his prime but his biggest assesst as a coach is player and organizational managment. Hes had a great cast of assistant
.most notbly coach bud who was more responsible for 2014 from an x and o standpoint but 99% of coaches would hane not pulled it off.

I should say Pop is a better President of Basketbal operation that he is a coach. But again he is way past prime.

[Fireball]

Working miracles with this team. Don’t know what your ignorant ass is talking about.

this

[RC_Drunkford]

GOAT coach. How he makes this roster
play decent defense is beyond my understanding

[monty4329]

No HOF left, only Parker in the twilight of his career. That alone makes Pop a super coach.

Other than that, we must recognize that his in-game management was never at the top of his profession; close, but no the top.

[vavvi]

The results are meh?!?!?!?
Everyone in the media predicted Spurs to miss the playoffs.
Even here on Spurstalk many people couldn't believe we can make it without Murray.

I mean... If you have Aldridge and then say "let's gather the shittiest defensive roster possible" this roster will be very similar to the one we have. Our 2 stars don't shoot the 3s in today's leagues. And we are still somewhat defending and on pace to make the playoffs.

[cheguevara]

Working miracles with this team. Don’t know what your ignorant ass is talking about.

[dbreiden83080]

Everyone is. Skip Bayless is on this kick right now that Brady is GOD, and Bill Belichick is only what he is because of Brady. Skip thinks Bill Walsh is the best coach in NFL history. Pretty sure he had some guys named Montana and Rice..

[sasaint]

OK?!?! Stay in your lane, bro.

[Shrimp]

Should change his name to stinKING

[Coach X]

Is .... just an 'ok' coach without Hall of Famers?

Fill the blank: Pat Riley, Red Auerbach, Phil Jackson, Jerry Sloan, Larry Brown, Don Nelson...

[FkLA]

Pop is the GOAT coach. Obviously at this point, he is way past his prime but his biggest assesst as a coach is player and organizational managment. Hes had a great cast of assistant
.most notbly coach bud who was more responsible for 2014 from an x and o standpoint but 99% of coaches would hane not pulled it off.

I should say Pop is a better President of Basketbal operation that he is a coach. But again he is way past prime.

Bud was in Atlanta in 2014, tbh.

[GreekSpursfan]

There were people in the past that dared to compare the best coach ever with B.Stevens. If Pop was in charge of the current Celtics roster we wouldn't be having doubts about who's coming out of the East, we have a lot of doubt right now. Pop will get this team to the playoffs with the most inexperienced backcourt ever and backcourt play is everything in today's NBA.

[apalisoc_9]

Bud was in Atlanta in 2014, tbh.

Yes but that beautiful game is buds offensive system. You can tell with Mil and Atlanta. He orcehstrated that offense. The spurs played that way before Bud left.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

If you look at Pop's ability to sustain a winning culture over an extended period of time, there's nobody better. A small market basketball team from south Texas has been one of the most dominant teams in pro sports for almost a quarter of a century. I'm not sure any coach other than Pop could have built this team, with these players, kept so many stars here for so long, built a tradition of team first, unselfish basketball that was 100% necessary to keep any team relevant, but especially a team without the resources or attractions of a larger market. People take shots at the current roster for its holes, but if you look at the fact that the Spurs have drafted at the end of the first round, or not in the first round at all, and don't have the ability to attract top tier free agents when compared to the likes of LA, it's truly remarkable.

I've complained at some of Pop's in-game coaching decisions from time to time, and as a Monday morning quarterback you can always go back and criticize some of those in-game coaching choices, but if you assess the overall body of work, there's nobody better than Pop, especially for San Antonio. David Robinson was a blessing for this, TD is the GOAT, but Pop's a big part of why the Spurs are the franchise they are.

[Coach X]

If you look at Pop's ability to sustain a winning culture over an extended period of time, there's nobody better. A small market basketball team from south Texas has been one of the most dominant teams in pro sports for almost a quarter of a century. I'm not sure any coach other than Pop could have built this team, with these players, kept so many stars here for so long, built a tradition of team first, unselfish basketball that was 100% necessary to keep any team relevant, but especially a team without the resources or attractions of a larger market. People take shots at the current roster for its holes, but if you look at the fact that the Spurs have drafted at the end of the first round, or not in the first round at all, and don't have the ability to attract top tier free agents when compared to the likes of LA, it's truly remarkable.

I've complained at some of Pop's in-game coaching decisions from time to time, and as a Monday morning quarterback you can always go back and criticize some of those in-game coaching choices, but if you assess the overall body of work, there's nobody better than Pop, especially for San Antonio. David Robinson was a blessing for this, TD is the GOAT, but Pop's a big part of why the Spurs are the franchise they are.
I endorse every word.

I still remember how much I disliked Popovich on his first seasons in San Antonio. I didn't like him until 2005 or so so. I was young and didn't know basketball. Now I still don't know basketball but at least I have acquired some life experience. IMO, he's one of the best coaches ever.

Sure I disagree with him sometimes, so I think of his career and accomplishments, I realize I don't have the information he has, nor his knowledge or experience, I shrug my shoulders and I think that he knows what he's doing. And time proves he was right most of the times no matter what he tries.

Respect the old man, he's a fucking legend.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

There were people in the past that dared to compare the best coach ever with B.Stevens. If Pop was in charge of the current Celtics roster we wouldn't be having doubts about who's coming out of the East, we have a lot of doubt right now. Pop will get this team to the playoffs with the most inexperienced backcourt ever and backcourt play is everything in today's NBA.

Exactly. Give Boston's current roster to Pop, in the East, and they'd be far and away the best team out there. If you take that same approach, team by team, you could argue that most would be performing better with Pop at the helm. GSW doesn't really need a coach, more of an ego management consultant, and the Lakers are coached by Lebron. Beyond those two, and perhaps Milwaukee who is playing extremely well, one could argue that the rest of the league would run better under Pop.

[JohnnyMax]

Phil > Pop... 3 different 3 peats and a back2back

[exstatic]

Phil Jackson is the GOAT. 3 different 3 peats and a back2back.

Doesn't develop young players.
Runs only one offense, and actually had Tex Winter on staff to run it for him.
Retired when Winters got too old to coach and travel.
Each team that he went to had already been to a conference finals before he got there.

[Thomas82]

If you look at Pop's ability to sustain a winning culture over an extended period of time, there's nobody better. A small market basketball team from south Texas has been one of the most dominant teams in pro sports for almost a quarter of a century. I'm not sure any coach other than Pop could have built this team, with these players, kept so many stars here for so long, built a tradition of team first, unselfish basketball that was 100% necessary to keep any team relevant, but especially a team without the resources or attractions of a larger market. People take shots at the current roster for its holes, but if you look at the fact that the Spurs have drafted at the end of the first round, or not in the first round at all, and don't have the ability to attract top tier free agents when compared to the likes of LA, it's truly remarkable.

I've complained at some of Pop's in-game coaching decisions from time to time, and as a Monday morning quarterback you can always go back and criticize some of those in-game coaching choices, but if you assess the overall body of work, there's nobody better than Pop, especially for San Antonio. David Robinson was a blessing for this, TD is the GOAT, but Pop's a big part of why the Spurs are the franchise they are.

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