Roger Stone's not guilty plea shows collapse of Russian collusion narrative

[ducks]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/roger-stone-apos-not-guilty-203253756.html

[Spurs Homer]

Keep dreaming!

[Spurtacular]

Investigation stalled.........








































































































































































On Day 1. :lmao

[El Santo]

Its been a year and more with no evidence whatsoever even this BS charge on stone that has nothing to do with russia..wake up

[spurraider21]

oh, a not guilty plea? guess prosecutors are just gonna give up then

[Brazil]

:lol

[Spurs Homer]

Every charge that Mueller indicted Stone with is backed up by solid evidence.
Every charge is already backed up by written, electronic or sworn testimony - before Mueller's team even thinks of filing it.

The words in the indictment that say "a high level Trump admin official WAS DIRECTED to call Stone" and then contact wikileaks -

are very scary for Trump cult members. Mueller did not have to use those words and he would not use those words unless he could back it up with written/electronic/sworn testimony -

so if it wasn't Trump himself that was colluding/conspiring with Wikileaks, Russia, Stone,

it was his criminal family.

Too bad for you cult members that collusion/conspiracy is there in the indictment written in black and white and filed in a US courthouse -

and you still have the treasonous mind to deny what the world already sees with their eyes and ears -

but I cannot really blame you - Russia trained you really well in the art of propaganda - to be used against your own country.

Pathetic.

[Spurminator]

oh, a not guilty plea? guess prosecutors are just gonna give up then

:lol

[Pavlov]

oh, a not guilty plea? guess prosecutors are just gonna give up then:lol

OJ Simpson's not guilty plea shows collapse of double murder narrative

[spurraider21]

:lol

OJ Simpson's not guilty plea shows collapse of double murder narrative

well to be fair he was later found not guilty :lol, though in that case even the not guilty verdict hasn't collapsed the double murder narrative

[Pavlov]

well to be fair he was later found not guilty :lol, though in that case even the not guilty verdict hasn't collapsed the double murder narrativeExactly. Columns like that one are protesting too much.

[baseline bum]

Look at how the Manafort case fell apart after he said he was innocent too.

[Nbadan]

I think Stone wants to go to prison...

Mueller tells judge of new Roger Stone post on Instagram
Source: Politico
3/04/2019 06:02 PM EST


Roger Stone is under fire for possible violations of his court-imposed gag order after a weekend social media post suggested he’d been “framed” in special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation and ahead of the imminent re-release of a book he co-wrote that explores the “myth of Russian collusion.”

The longtime Donald Trump associate remains under a Feb. 21 order from U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson that bans him from making public comments of any kind about his upcoming criminal trial on charges of lying to Congress and obstructing lawmakers’ Russia probe.

But Stone on several recent occasions has already tested the limits of the gag order — which did allow him to continue speaking about matters unrelated to the Russia investigation, and also to make statements to raise money for his legal defense fund and to explain in simple terms that he had entered a plea of not guilty...................................


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The special counsel’s office took no other position on the post, which was made on the same social media platform as a controversial image that landed Stone in trouble last month because it featured Jackson with what appeared to be a gun’s crosshairs above her head. Stone deleted that image and replaced it with one without the crosshairs. He then later deleted that second Instagram post.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/04/mueller-roger-stone-post-instagram-1202919

[Pavlov]

It's amazing just how stupid this guy is.

[Nbadan]

Good time for him to be in prison I suppose....them just finding a cure for AIDS and all...

[Will Hunting]

It's amazing just how stupid this guy is.
Stone or the OP?

[boutons_deux]

It's amazing just how stupid this guy is.

Rather, emboldened by getting away with shit and ratfucking for 50 years, with buddies Manafort and Atwater.

Then he gets deeply into reverse Midas Trash's toxic mafiya.

[benefactor]

Stone or the OP?
Yes

[koriwhat]

All a ploy to censor alex jones even more lol

[Donnie Nelson]

All a ploy to censor alex jones even more lol
Explain.

[koriwhat]

Explain.

Explain sarcasm? Ok.... L... U... L... Z...

[koriwhat]

Good time for him to be in prison I suppose....them just finding a cure for AIDS and all...

Explain. lol

[Donnie Nelson]

Explain sarcasm? Ok.... L... U... L... Z...
What were you being sarcastic about?

[Trill Clinton]

Just found guilty on all counts. damn.

[Winehole23]

Lol MAGA wishcasting ITT

[TSA]

OP needs to change title to guilty plea shows collapse of Russian narrative

[djohn2oo8]

He was convicted of lying about Wikileaks you dump truck :lmao

[spurraider21]

OP needs to change title to guilty plea shows collapse of Russian narrative
conviction =/= guilty plea

[ChumpDumper]

OP needs to change title to guilty plea shows collapse of Russian narrativeDid he plead guilty after being convicted?

[djohn2oo8]

Did he plead guilty after being convicted?
:lmao

[TSA]

conviction =/= guilty plea

Yeah my bad was just copying the title. He was convicted.



https://www.scribd.com/document/398208364/Stone-Indictment-012419#from_embed

But what wasn’t really cleared up in the trial was whether Stone in fact had legitimate inside information about WikiLeaks and its posting of Democratic emails that had been hacked by Russian intelligence officers. To an extent, that makes sense — the charges against Stone weren’t about anything he did in 2016, but rather the alleged cover-up he perpetrated the following year.

The government presented voluminous documentary evidence that the story Stone told Congress — that all his WikiLeaks information came from a single “intermediary,” radio host Randy Credico — was false. And they suggested Stone concocted this false story to hide his true WikiLeaks connection — conservative author Jerome Corsi. But what, exactly, Corsi learned, and how he learned it, remain murky.

https://www.vox.com/2019/11/15/20964909/roger-stone-trial-verdict

And Mueller said Corsi concocted a false back channel to Wikileaks

https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/politics/draft-jerome-corsi-statement-of-offense/3324/


Is the Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy dead? yes or no.

[RandomGuy]

OP needs to change title to guilty plea shows collapse of Russian narrative

:lol TSA

Stone guilty on all counts.

Whomp whomp.

[RandomGuy]

Yeah my bad was just copying the title. He was convicted.



https://www.scribd.com/document/398208364/Stone-Indictment-012419#from_embed

But what wasn’t really cleared up in the trial was whether Stone in fact had legitimate inside information about WikiLeaks and its posting of Democratic emails that had been hacked by Russian intelligence officers. To an extent, that makes sense — the charges against Stone weren’t about anything he did in 2016, but rather the alleged cover-up he perpetrated the following year.

The government presented voluminous documentary evidence that the story Stone told Congress — that all his WikiLeaks information came from a single “intermediary,” radio host Randy Credico — was false. And they suggested Stone concocted this false story to hide his true WikiLeaks connection — conservative author Jerome Corsi. But what, exactly, Corsi learned, and how he learned it, remain murky.

https://www.vox.com/2019/11/15/20964909/roger-stone-trial-verdict

And Mueller said Corsi concocted a false back channel to Wikileaks

https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/politics/draft-jerome-corsi-statement-of-offense/3324/


Is the Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy dead? yes or no.


iii. Konstantin Kilimnik
Kilimnik is a Russian national who has lived in both Russia and Ukraine and was a longtime Manafort employee. Kilimnik had direct and close access to Yanukovych and his senior entourage, and he facilitated communications between Manafort and his clients, including Yanukovych and multiple Ukrainian oligarchs. Kilimnik also maintained a relationship with Deripaska’s deputy, Viktor Boyarkin, a Russian national who previously served in the defense attaché office of the Russian Embassy to the United States.

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ii. Paul Manafort’s Campaign-Period Contacts
Immediately upon joining the Campaign, Manafort directed Gates to prepare for his review separate memoranda addressed to Deripaska, Akhmetov, Serhiy Lyovochkin, and Boris Kolesnikov, the last three being Ukrainian oligarchs who were senior Opposition Bloc officials. The memoranda described Manafort’s appointment to the Trump Campaign and indicated his willingness to consult on Ukrainian politics in the future. On March 30, 2016, Gates emailed the memoranda and a press release announcing Manafort’s appointment to Kilimnik for translation and dissemination. Manafort later followed up with Kilimnik to ensure his messages had been delivered, emailing on April 11, 2016 to ask whether Kilimnik had shown “our friends” the media coverage of his new role. Kilimnik replied, “Absolutely. Every article.” Manafort further asked: “How do we use to get whole. Has Ovd [Oleg Vladimirovich Deripaska] operation seen?” Kilimnik wrote back the same day, “Yes, I have been sending everything to Victor , who has been forwarding the coverage directly to OVD.”

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/18/us/politics/mueller-report-document.html#g-page-139


Gates also reported that [B]Manafort instructed him in April 2016 or early May 2016 to send Kilimnik Campaign internal polling data and other updates so that Kilimnik, in turn, could share it with Ukrainian oligarchs. Gates understood that the information would also be shared with Deripaska, ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ Gates reported to the Office that he did not know why Manafort wanted him to send polling information, but Gates thought it was a way to showcase Manafort’s work, and Manafort wanted to open doors to jobs after the Trump Campaign ended. Gates said that Manafort’s instruction included sending internal polling data prepared for the Trump Campaign by pollster Tony Fabrizio. Fabrizio had worked with Manafort for years and was brought into the Campaign by Manafort. Gates stated that, in accordance with Manafort’s instruction, he periodically sent Kilimnik polling data via WhatsApp; Gates then deleted the communications on a daily basis. Gates further told the Office that, after Manafort left the Campaign in mid-August, Gates sent Kilimnik polling data less frequently and that the data he sent was more publicly available information and less internal data.

Gates’s account about polling data is consistent ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■■■ with multiple emails that Kilimnik sent to U.S. associates and press contacts between late July and mid-August of 2016. Those emails referenced “internal polling,” described the status of the Trump Campaign and L 94


.... so the answer to your question is:

No, Trumps bestie Roger Stone being found guilty of obstruction of justice, witness tampering and lying under oath to protect Trump doesn't make the Russian collusion narrative dead.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol TSA

Stone guilty on all counts.

Whomp whomp.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1124706/download

Here is the indictment. It clearly states that Stone lied about working with and obtaining materials from WikiLeaks.

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao guilty plea

[RandomGuy]

https://www.justice.gov/file/1124706/download

Here is the indictment. It clearly states that Stone lied about working with and obtaining materials from WikiLeaks.

Wasn't part of the "Russian collusion" narrative that Russia was feeding the data it stole from the DNC to Wikileaks, and wikileaks was coordinating with the Trump campaign about the data the Russians stole?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wasn't part of the "Russian collusion" narrative that Russia was feeding the data it stole from the DNC to Wikileaks, and wikileaks was coordinating with the Trump campaign about the data the Russians stole?

Of course. The emails wikileaks had originated from Russian hacking. i thought that point was self evident but you're likely right to underscore it.

[boutons_deux]

Is the Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy dead? yes or no.

the collusion, at least passive but Jared gave Repug demographic data to Russian Cambridge Analytica, was real. Junior LOVING Russian dirt on Hillary was real

Trash fucking up American geopolitis to suck up to Pootin is real

There never has been a conspiracy against corrupt, sicko shitbag Trash and his death wish.

[TSA]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/18/us/politics/mueller-report-document.html#g-page-139




.... so the answer to your question is:

No, Trumps bestie Roger Stone being found guilty of obstruction of justice, witness tampering and lying under oath to protect Trump doesn't make the Russian collusion narrative dead.


"The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."

[RandomGuy]

"The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."

Did Meuller ever get to question Deripaska? or the other Russian intelligence officials? Yes or no.

[RandomGuy]

[and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."

did not "otherwise coordinate"

Meaning, essentially, that "other than this coordination, he didn't do anything else"

:lol TSA.

[TSA]

https://www.justice.gov/file/1124706/download

Here is the indictment. It clearly states that Stone lied about working with and obtaining materials from WikiLeaks.

Stone didn't work with or obtain materials from Wikileaks, he wasn't even indicted for any of that. If you think he did you obviously haven't read the counts he was convicted of. Why are you linking things you either haven't read or don't understand?

[boutons_deux]

Manafort giving polling data to corrupt, Ukraine effectively was giving it to Pootin

Manafort HAD to know that Pootin's people are implanted throughout Ukraine.

[TSA]

Wasn't part of the "Russian collusion" narrative that Russia was feeding the data it stole from the DNC to Wikileaks, and wikileaks was coordinating with the Trump campaign about the data the Russians stole?

That was the debunked narrative about Wikileaks and the Trump campaign, correct.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Stone didn't work with or obtain materials from Wikileaks, he wasn't even indicted for any of that. If you think he did you obviously haven't read the counts he was convicted of. Why are you linking things you either haven't read or don't understand?

Are you trying to argue that the head of Organization 1 at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London is something/one other than WL? I read the indictment, dimwit. It's right there. . . .


STONE also corresponded with associates about contacting Organization 1 in order to
obtain additional emails damaging to the Clinton Campaign.
a. On or about July 25, 2016, STONE sent an email to Person 1 with the subject line,
“Get to [the head of Organization 1].” The body of the message read, “Get to [the
head of Organization 1] [a]t Ecuadorian Embassy in London and get the pending
[Organization 1] emails . . . they deal with Foundation, allegedly.”


On or about September 30, 2016, Person 2 sent STONE via text message a
photograph of Person 2 standing outside the Ecuadorian Embassy in London where
the head of Organization 1 was located.


In truth and in fact, STONE had sent and received numerous emails and text messages
during the 2016 campaign in which he discussed Organization 1, its head, and its possession of
hacked emails. At the time of his false testimony, STONE was still in possession of many of these
emails and text messages, including:
a. The email from STONE to Person 1 on or about July 25, 2016 that read in part,
“Get to [the head of Organization 1] [a]t Ecuadorian Embassy in London and get
the pending [Organization 1] emails . . . they deal with Foundation, allegedly.”;

The link is the Stone indictment. He was found guilty on ALL charges. Have fun eating shit.

[RandomGuy]

Third, the investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the investigation of Russian election interference.

As is the case here. The prosecutors in their statements directly allude to the way Stone lied and hindered the investigation.

[RandomGuy]

That was the debunked narrative about Wikileaks and the Trump campaign, correct.


Beginning in March 2016, units of the Russian Federation’s Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff (GRU) hacked the computers and email accounts of organizations, employees, and volunteers supporting the Clinton Campaign, including the email account of campaign chairman John Podesta. Starting in April 2016, the GRU hacked into the computer networks of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) and the Democratic National Committee (DNC). The GRU targeted hundreds of email accounts used by Clinton Campaign employees, advisors, and volunteers. In total, the GRU stole hundreds of thousands of documents from the compromised email accounts and networks. The GRU later released stolen Clinton Campaign and DNC documents through online personas, “DCLeaks” and “Guccifer 2.0,” and later through the organization WikiLeaks. The release of the documents was designed and timed to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election and undermine the Clinton Campaign.

The Trump Campaign showed interest in the WikiLeaks releases and, in the summer and fall of 2016, ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ ■■■ After ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ WikiLeaks’s first Clinton-related release ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■, the Trump Campaign stayed in contact ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ about WikiLeaks’s activities. The investigation was unable to resolve ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ WikiLeaks’s release of the stolen Podesta emails on October 7, 2016, the same day a video from years earlier was published of Trump using graphic language about women.

[RandomGuy]

That was the debunked narrative about Wikileaks and the Trump campaign, correct.


a. WikiLeaks’s Expressed Opposition Toward the Clinton Campaign
WikiLeaks, and particularly its founder Julian Assange, privately expressed opposition to candidate Clinton well before the first release of stolen documents. In November 2015, Assange wrote to other members and associates of WikiLeaks that “[w]e believe it would be much better for GOP to win ...


b. WikiLeaks’s First Contact with Guccifer 2.0 and DCLeaks
Shortly after the GRU’s first release of stolen documents through dcleaks.com in June 2016, GRU officers also used the DCLeaks persona to contact WikiLeaks about possible coordination in the future release of stolen emails. On June 14, 2016, @dcleaks_ sent a direct message to @WikiLeaks, noting, “You announced your organization was preparing to publish more Hillary’s emails. We are ready to support you. We have some sensitive information too, in particular, her financial documents. Let’s do it together. What do you think about publishing our info at the same moment? Thank you."

as for the rest of it... it's all starts on page 139

A lot of it is redacted, especially the parts that have to do with the campaigns coordination with wikileaks, probably due in no small part to Stone's trial.

Kind of hard to say it has been "debunked" if the parts we would need to know about are all redacted.

[TSA]

Are you trying to argue that the head of Organization 1 at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London is something/one other than WL? I read the indictment, dimwit. It's right there. . . .







The link is the Stone indictment. He was found guilty on ALL charges. Have fun eating shit.

I'm not trying to argue that the head of Organization 1 is something other that Wikileaks/Assange. I'm arguing that Stone wasn't charged for conspiring with Wikileaks/Assange and the indictment you are referencing backs up my claim 100%.

Stone was charged about lying about his "go between". His "go between" was lying about having a back channel to Wikileaks. Mueller confirmed both of these things.

Post the charges he was found guilty of, I want to watch you realize you've been eating shit this whole time.

[TSA]

showing interest =/= conspiring with Wikileaks

Everyone had interest in the releases, that isn't a crime.

[djohn2oo8]

Why didn’t they contact the FBI?

[boutons_deux]

Manafort giving polling data to corrupt, Ukraine effectively was giving it to Pootin

Manafort HAD to know that Pootin's people are implanted throughout Ukraine.

[koriwhat]

Manafort giving polling data to corrupt, Ukraine effectively was giving it to Pootin

Manafort HAD to know that Pootin's people are implanted throughout Ukraine.



did sleepy joe know too? how about hunter?

[Reck]

Another one of Chris hero goes down in flames. :lol

[Chris]

Another one of Chris hero goes down in flames. :lol

^r3nt fr33 4 l1f3 :lol

[Reck]

^r3nt fr33 4 l1f3 :lol

Nice leeting, bro.