Spurs' New Big Three: LMA, DWhite, Rudy

[sasaint]

Due to Rudy's health concerns, this new big three may not last long, but it is the current de facto state of the team. Spurs really need to move DeMar. The team is simply better without him gumming up the offense, missing shots and going awol. Plus his value will only slide.

[slick'81]

Sad we gave up kawhi and danny for this pre madonna head case

[Proxy]

great 2 posts, 10/10, one of the better threads

[R. DeMurre]

D White is a big improvement over Kyle Anderson or Danny Green, who were #s 2 and 3 last year in terms of minutes. I'm hoping that after the all star game, White is averaging more mpg than Forbes or Gay.

[ceperez]

Due to Rudy's health concerns, this new big three may not last long, but it is the current de facto state of the team. Spurs really need to move DeMar. The team is simply better without him gumming up the offense, missing shots and going awol. Plus his value will only slide.

Just surprising how Derozan's performance has fallen off a cliff after the Raptors game.

[r0drig0lac]

Just surprising how Derozan's performance has fallen off a cliff after the Raptors game.

yes, it's as if the monstars have stolen your talent

[Chinook]

Really, the Spurs just need to find a way to be as successful at finding and developing front-court players as they have been at back-court guys. I bitched for years about them getting some young guards on the team, and when they finally got around to it, it was mad successful. I have zero idea how they'd go about replacing Aldridge and Gay, but I can't count them out. Shit, maybe they'll draft the replacements for both in June.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Sad we gave up kawhi and danny for this pre madonna head case

ok slick

[anon]

DJ-White-Stanley Johnson-Bertans-Aldridge, Gay sixth man still seems to lack the requisite firepower/closer to propel them over the Harden or Curry/Durant-led teams of the west. Western teams need the redundancy of at least two closers to raise their floor to where a conference finals berth becomes plausible. Since this thread is about flipping Derozan, who would you like in return that would fulfill that missing closer role? Also, keep in mind Aldridge is already 33 years of age.

[Fusternino]

DDR is going to be here for 5-8 seasons after this one.

Accept it.

[Blackhaus]

DJ-White-Stanley Johnson-Bertans-Aldridge, Gay sixth man still seems to lack the requisite firepower/closer to propel them over the Harden or Curry/Durant-led teams of the west. Western teams need the redundancy of at least two closers to raise their floor to where a conference finals berth becomes plausible. Since this thread is about flipping Derozan, who would you like in return that would fulfill that missing closer role? Also, keep in mind Aldridge is already 33 years of age.

Where did Stanley Johnson come from? Are you saying trade DeRozan for him? Or is that a signing?

[TimmyBuckets]

What a garbage big 3.

[exstatic]

Really, the Spurs just need to find a way to be as successful at finding and developing front-court players as they have been at back-court guys. I bitched for years about them getting some young guards on the team, and when they finally got around to it, it was mad successful. I have zero idea how they'd go about replacing Aldridge and Gay, but I can't count them out. Shit, maybe they'll draft the replacements for both in June.

I noted that a couple of weeks ago. It's weird how many duds they've come up with in the front court.

Mahinmi
LJC
Cady
Ryan Richards

All of those guys had some degree of talent, but just couldn't click. The only draftees that have had any success seem to be the ones they left in Europe: Splitter and Scola (with Houston). Maybe that's why Mulinitov isn't here?

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Gay can not be trusted.

[XDT76]

I noted that a couple of weeks ago. It's weird how many duds they've come up with in the front court.

Mahinmi
LJC
Cady
Ryan Richards

All of those guys had some degree of talent, but just couldn't click. The only draftees that have had any success seem to be the ones they left in Europe: Splitter and Scola (with Houston). Maybe that's why Mulinitov isn't here?

U forgot D Rob and Timmy

[spurraider21]

U forgot D Rob and Timmy
not to mention cady and ryan richards were late 2nd round fliers, and not guys they heavily invested in or were banking on.

there's also tiago splitter who worked out well for us. blair was decent for a few seasons. they want to get something out of jakob. milutinov is overseas. they seem to like metu.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Guess I'm the only one who still has faith in DD. He's been in a little slump which pretty much every player in every sport at some point goes through. Like LMA, DD will work through it and come out even better than he was. One thing he has been doing is getting everyone else involved so he's putting up good assists numbers and almost nightly he gets 10 rebounds more or less. I'm not willing to go hang myself or shoot myself in the head just yet. Anyway, JMHO :toast

[cutewizard]

:bobo

[jbspurs]

Guess I'm the only one who still has faith in DD. He's been in a little slump which pretty much every player in every sport at some point goes through. Like LMA, DD will work through it and come out even better than he was. One thing he has been doing is getting everyone else involved so he's putting up good assists numbers and almost nightly he gets 10 rebounds more or less. I'm not willing to go hang myself or shoot myself in the head just yet. Anyway, JMHO :toast

You're not alone. I have this feeling that his recent struggle is part of the transition correcting his shooting form. I saw Chip focused on DDR during their warmups in Sac, hours prior to game.

[ceperez]

You're not alone. I have this feeling that his recent struggle is part of the transition correcting his shooting form. I saw Chip focused on DDR during their warmups in Sac, hours prior to game.

Interesting... could explain the bad shooting lately.

[ceperez]

You're not alone. I have this feeling that his recent struggle is part of the transition correcting his shooting form. I saw Chip focused on DDR during their warmups in Sac, hours prior to game.

Interesting... could explain the bad shooting lately.

I don't know how many miracles Chip can make.

We haven't seen his work yet on Dejounte Murray.

Lonnie Walker might have an improved stroke at 3.
White and Forbes were already high percentage shooters in college.

[offset formation]

Guess I'm the only one who still has faith in DD. He's been in a little slump which pretty much every player in every sport at some point goes through. Like LMA, DD will work through it and come out even better than he was. One thing he has been doing is getting everyone else involved so he's putting up good assists numbers and almost nightly he gets 10 rebounds more or less. I'm not willing to go hang myself or shoot myself in the head just yet. Anyway, JMHO :toast

Agreed. Not giving up on DeMar. He didn't give up on the Spurs when we were getting blown out so I don't understand how Spurfans could toss him aside, tbh.

[pad300]

DDR is going to be here for 5-8 seasons after this one.

Accept it.

So long as the next contract is <= 2 X MLE annually , I'll be very happy with that. Is he a superstar, no. Is he a pretty good player who's kept trying and committed to the team, so far, so good.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Just surprising how Derozan's performance has fallen off a cliff after the Raptors game. I've been saying that for a wile. He hit his emotional peek during that game and it has drained him. That game was game 6 of the NBA finals for him. The next Raptors game will be game 7

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Really, the Spurs just need to find a way to be as successful at finding and developing front-court players as they have been at back-court guys. I bitched for years about them getting some young guards on the team, and when they finally got around to it, it was mad successful. I have zero idea how they'd go about replacing Aldridge and Gay, but I can't count them out. Shit, maybe they'll draft the replacements for both in June.Uebankes will be the aldridAl replacement

[Shakril]

Big 3? No, as of right now, there is one Allstar in LMA which can be counted as a "Big 3" player. Derozan would be next in line, if he would play better. But after that, there is none. Gay never will, and White is far from it right now.

[jbspurs]

Interesting... could explain the bad shooting lately.

I don't know how many miracles Chip can make.

We haven't seen his work yet on Dejounte Murray.

Lonnie Walker might have an improved stroke at 3.
White and Forbes were already high percentage shooters in college.

Chip corrected Kawhi's, PArker, Jefferson... Murray? Hard to tell when he's not playing..

[RC_Drunkford]

I've been saying that for a wile. He hit his emotional peek during that game and it has drained him. That game was game 6 of the NBA finals for him. The next Raptors game will be game 7

let's hope that is not the case, cause we all know how DeRozan does in Game 7s...

[ceperez]

let's hope that is not the case, cause we all know how DeRozan does in Game 7s...

Just got to trust in PATFO.

I've never liked the Aldridge signing, but in hindsight, its costing the Spurs only $25m/year and Aldridge is playing the best basketball he has ever played.

The there's Gay, he definitely is pretty banged up. Yet he's playing the most efficient basketball in his entire career.

We can bitch all day about the Mills signing, but we all know by now why he was signed. There's value in having a player with a high emotional IQ.

This is DeRozan's first year, he played great in the first half of the season. He looks burnt out. But give him time to recover.

[BillMc]

I wonder what are chances of keeping Rudy are, and what the Spurs will need to pay him to stay.

[ceperez]

I wonder what are chances of keeping Rudy are, and what the Spurs will need to pay him to stay.

Very high. It is obvious that he lacks a lot of mobility. He's only valuable now within the Spurs offense.

Also, he's injury prone. So only teams like the Spurs that rest their veterans makes sense for him.

The new selling point of the Spurs is that if you are over 30, you can still revive your career with the Spurs.

[pad300]

I wonder what are chances of keeping Rudy are, and what the Spurs will need to pay him to stay.

I'd say they are pretty good. From everything that I have heard, he likes it here. I don't see another team breaking the bank for a over 30 player who's had injury issues, and is considered a "system player" because his only real success has been with the Spurs... I wouldn't be surprised if we could keep with only a small raise (Patty money).

[RC_Drunkford]

The new selling point of the Spurs is that if you are over 30, you can still revive your career with the Spurs.

that's been the Spurs selling point for the last 20 years tbh

[boutons_deux]

This is DeRozan's first year, he played great in the first half of the season

... great, even wonderful for the first 3 or 4 weeks, after which is collapsed into uselessness.


hurt from the waist down? or screwed up from shoulders up?

[SouthTexasRancher]

You're not alone. I have this feeling that his recent struggle is part of the transition correcting his shooting form. I saw Chip focused on DDR during their warmups in Sac, hours prior to game.

You could be right. :toast

[SouthTexasRancher]

Agreed. Not giving up on DeMar. He didn't give up on the Spurs when we were getting blown out so I don't understand how Spurfans could toss him aside, tbh.

Once DeMar is totally acclimated into Pop's system I think we will all be pleasantly surprised, especially come playoff time. Offensive players as good as DeMar is are hard to come by. :ace