Our FO is bad

[duncan2k5]

It's amazing how other teams get free agents or make trades for decent players on the cheap, but we don't do anything except sign old, washed up stars that are looking for a retirement home... We used to be good/great... But as with everything in life, nothing lasts forever... Our FO hasn't kept up with the times... They have become comfortable just being in cruise control

[Hedgie]

Fuck off mate

[duncan2k5]

Fuck off mate

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

[duncan2k5]

Fuck off mate

RC is that you?

[monty4329]

" trades for decent players on the cheap
Who, on the cheap?

[YGWHI]

RC/Pop are elite in this league.

I guess the only issue in last seasons was they were too loyal to players that didn't show on court they deserved it.

"Well, Pau was willing to wait and tried to help us to get CP3...just give him a massive contract" "Patty is our emotional leader...just give him a massive contract"..."LMA had his worst playoffs round vs Warriors, he asked for a trade...just extend him instead of looking for younger/better stars in the league"

Again, PATFO is elite. One of the best FO in NBA business.

But I laugh so hard at the new/young executives behind them that will take control in a few years.

Those f*cking idiots were caring that much about owners' money over getting talent in offseason.

The young guys on Spurs FO think that being conservative and cheap will put them in a good spot in San Antonio. Sadly they aren't wrong.

[UnWantedTheory]

It's amazing how other teams get free agents or make trades for decent players on the cheap, but we don't do anything except sign old, washed up stars that are looking for a retirement home... We used to be good/great... But as with everything in life, nothing lasts forever... Our FO hasn't kept up with the times... They have become comfortable just being in cruise control

The absolute whiny bitchery from you retards is hilarious. If you aren't depressed over Aldridge, you're whining about not trading for some scrub that doesn't move the needle. Get a grip ya fucking drama queen.

[Atl Spur]

............ bruh, no one is making u stay! Needed some attention today?

[benefactor]

:lol today's asswiper

[duncan2k5]

RC/Pop are elite in this league.

I guess the only issue in last seasons was they were too loyal to players that didn't show on court they deserved it.

"Well, Pau was willing to wait and tried to help us to get CP3...just give him a massive contract" "Patty is our emotional leader...just give him a massive contract"..."LMA had his worst playoffs round vs Warriors, he asked for a trade...just extend him instead of looking for younger/better stars in the league"

Again, PATFO is elite. One of the best FO in NBA business.

But I laugh so hard at the new/young executives behind them that will take control in a few years.

Those f*cking idiots were caring that much about owners' money over getting talent in offseason.

The young guys on Spurs FO think that being conservative and cheap will put them in a good spot in San Antonio. Sadly they aren't wrong.

They WERE elite... That's like saying MJ is still elite based on his past

[duncan2k5]

The absolute whiny bitchery from you retards is hilarious. If you aren't depressed over Aldridge, you're whining about not trading for some scrub that doesn't move the needle. Get a grip ya fucking drama queen.

Compelling argument... Way to prove me wrong

[duncan2k5]

............ bruh, no one is making u stay! Needed some attention today?

I hope u say that to anyone that has a complaint about the team... But wait... No one would be left on here

[K...]

So much of the whining on this site is just adjustment to life without half of Fame level talents. In five years we're gonna be reminiscing about having guys like LMA sand DeRozan.

[Spurs fever]

It's seems like since Pop has gotten older he's become more loyal to his players. I love what the Spurs organization has done in the past but I wouldn't be opposed to new management in the future. I do think what the Clippers are doing is risky but I saw a few teams cut deals that made me wonder why we haven't moved.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

I hope u say that to anyone that has a complaint about the team... But wait... No one would be left on here
I haven't actually seen you say anything positive about the team tbh. Like way for the front office to find and develop Derrick White. Way to choose Bertans over fathead. Way to turn LMA into a leader and a great teammate (after years of being a whiny diva). Way to turn Murray into an All NBA defender after he was lousy on D on college.

You can still bash the Spurs, QP and Cun signings were awful. Gasol is a broken down albatross. Forbes has regressed to his horrible defensive self. But mix in some positivity with your criticism.

[Keepin' it real]

Our FO is bad

What about our FEE, FI, and FUM?

[vander]

on the other hand:
The Spurs are 32-24. In the West. In the first year after their superstar bailed on them, also TP and Manu left, also Murray got hurt, also it turns out that Derozen kinda sucks, also White was hurt for much of the year.
How is this team still even competitive?

[Atl Spur]

I hope u say that to anyone that has a complaint about the team... But wait... No one would be left on here

Please excersise more objectivity........ We are other teams favorite team secretly!

[weeks]

on the other hand:
The Spurs are 32-24. In the West. In the first year after their superstar bailed on them, also TP and Manu left, also Murray got hurt, also it turns out that Derozen kinda sucks, also White was hurt for much of the year.
How is this team still even competitive?

[TimDunkem]

Spurs should trade LMA, tbfh.

[superbigtime]

on the other hand:
The Spurs are 32-24. In the West. In the first year after their superstar bailed on them, also TP and Manu left, also Murray got hurt, also it turns out that Derozen kinda sucks, also White was hurt for much of the year.
How is this team still even competitive?

LMA

[UnWantedTheory]

Compelling argument... Way to prove me wrong
There is no need proving anything to you. You're a whiny bitch who won't change your mind regardless of the pile of evidence against your retard takes.

[Arcadian]

This thread is enlightening and caused a paradigm shift in the way we view the Spurs' front office.

Not.

[Brazil]

Our ? talking about the raptors ?

[HarlemHeat37]

Our ? talking about the raptors ?

:lol I think he's referring to Mitch Frankel and Uncle Dennis..

[JPB]

This thread is enlightening and caused a paradigm shift in the way we view the Spurs' front office.

Not.

Same, I thought all long PATFO did another great job assembling one of the most promising White-Murray backcourt in the NBA (under rookie contracts) out of middle and low picks...

Lttle did I know.

[duncan2k5]

So much of the whining on this site is just adjustment to life without half of Fame level talents. In five years we're gonna be reminiscing about having guys like LMA sand DeRozan.

Like we do about Jefferson and Hedo?

[Rosewood]

You're really fucking stupid OP.

I don't hold it against you, but just thought you should know.

[duncan2k5]

I haven't actually seen you say anything positive about the team tbh. Like way for the front office to find and develop Derrick White. Way to choose Bertans over fathead. Way to turn LMA into a leader and a great teammate (after years of being a whiny diva). Way to turn Murray into an All NBA defender after he was lousy on D on college.

You can still bash the Spurs, QP and Cun signings were awful. Gasol is a broken down albatross. Forbes has regressed to his horrible defensive self. But mix in some positivity with your criticism.

Everything u named happened AFTER I said the Spurs should peyote more attention to those players and actually play them so they can develop... It took massive injuries for white and Murray to see light off the bench... Don't act as if this was the plan

[duncan2k5]

You're really fucking stupid OP.

I don't hold it against you, but just thought you should know.

Compelling counterargument

[duncan2k5]

There is no need proving anything to you. You're a whiny bitch who won't change your mind regardless of the pile of evidence against your retard takes.

Where is this pile? What great moves has been done lately that outweigh the bad ones?

[duncan2k5]

Same, I thought all long PATFO did another great job assembling one of the most promising White-Murray backcourt in the NBA (under rookie contracts) out of middle and low picks...

Lttle did I know.

As I stayed, I have been one of the very vocal ones pushing Murray and white on here even when you ppl were saying they were trash... NOW you guys praise them and conveniently forget that I took a lot of shit for praising then from the very beginning... The sad part is if it weren't for injuries, they'd probably not even be playing right now

[Rosewood]

Compelling counterargument I've seen you in previous threads ignore whatever is said to you and just keep hamster-wheeling around. It's not worth the effort and I'm shocked more people here didn't turn against you after you took sides with Kawhi Leonard over the team you're supposedly a fan of.

:rolleyes

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Everything u named happened AFTER I said the Spurs should peyote more attention to those players and actually play them so they can develop... It took massive injuries for white and Murray to see light off the bench... Don't act as if this was the plan

You still can't do it? It's not that hard to compliment them for those moves instead of whining well they didn't do it fast enough. We drafted an athletic black player over a white ginger and we both know how much pop loves his gingers. There's another positive thing you can compliment the Spurs on. We have long athletic guards that can switch between positions 1-3 defensively. That's modern NBA. 2 of those guards can shoot the 3 and create their own shot (the 3rd guard looked like he was on his way to being able to do that) so that's modern NBA. We have a bonfide 3 point squad in Patty. Marco, Bertans- which is also modern NBA.

And bs yet you still can't compliment them about any of that. Instead you say well it took blah blah blah for it to happen, instead of saying well atleast they put us in a position for it to happen. Be a fan and CHEER for your team every once and a while. Damn.

[Fusternino]

Worst poster on this site, hands down.

[acoelho1]

Will you just go be a Raptor fan already. We know... in your mind, this roster, Pop, RC and everything SA sucks. Move on and go cheer for the 76ers or Knicks because they are perennial contenders. :bang

[Leetonidas]

Worst poster on this site, hands down.

[Brazil]

:lol I think he's referring to Mitch Frankel and Uncle Dennis..

:lol makes sense now

[monty4329]

on the other hand:
The Spurs are 32-24. In the West. In the first year after their superstar bailed on them, also TP and Manu left, also Murray got hurt, also it turns out that Derozen kinda sucks, also White was hurt for much of the year.
How is this team still even competitive?

Exactly. Superior organization environment, FO and coaching.

[SpursBig3s]

Damn. Didn’t know Nephew had a spurstalk account, much less knew what the internet was.

[cool cat]

Damn. Didn’t know Nephew had a spurstalk account, much less knew what the internet was.

They gave him one of those Amazon fire kid tablets. He mainly just chews on the corners.
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[RD2191]

OP dropping truth nukes tbh. Patfo is garbage. Signing faggot ass pau? The guy who turned you down for shitcago the first time? Pathetic and embarrassing tbh

[TimmyBuckets]

Vintage OP

[rascal]

The Front office was bad in the early years with Robinson and Duncan on the team together. Watching the Lakers win back to back to back, in those years the front office was not making good moves. Could have had Sprewell on the cheap, but chickened out.

[SpursGenius]

Clippers get 4 draft picks including unprotected first rounder for Tobias. Young talent in Shamet. We get throw in draft pick protected. Demas who can’t shoot a three and average back up big for the second best player in league. Op is right.

[BD24]

OP is a faggot

[Play Boban]

It's amazing how other teams get free agents or make trades for decent players on the cheap, but we don't do anything except sign old, washed up stars that are looking for a retirement home... We used to be good/great... But as with everything in life, nothing lasts forever... Our FO hasn't kept up with the times... They have become comfortable just being in cruise control
I thought your FO did a pretty good job with the Kawhitter trade tbh. You got rid of an inefficient player (DeRozan) and got a one-year rental of a top player (Kawhitter). Who knows, maybe you’ll even somehow to convince the cancer to stay in Canada.

[south side spur]

This coming from the guru who lusted over that idiot Simmons. You’re one hell of a troll keep up the bad work.

[duncan2k5]

Keep ur blinders on while we keep the same trash roster and lose in the first round, and get no free agents for years to come...

This guy really is touting Mills as a great asset to our team... And Marco... Lmfao! Of if overpaid Mills and Marco are cream of the crop to you, then I can see how u think we have a great front office...

Normal ppl see that the mills and Gasol contracts are trash... Why do u think they're trying to get rid of it now, dumbfuck? You're too busy trying to bash me when the world can see I'm right... Some of you same assholes on here will go into another thread and Bash Gasol and mills... Hypocrisy

[UnWantedTheory]

Keep ur blinders on while we keep the same trash roster and lose in the first round, and get no free agents for years to come...

This guy really is touting Mills as a great asset to our team... And Marco... Lmfao! Of if overpaid Mills and Marco are cream of the crop to you, then I can see how u think we have a great front office...

Normal ppl see that the mills and Gasol contracts are trash... Why do u think they're trying to get rid of it now, dumbfuck? You're too busy trying to bash me when the world can see I'm right... Some of you same assholes on here will go into another thread and Bash Gasol and mills... Hypocrisy You are the dumb fuck king of false equivalencies huh?

[UnWantedTheory]

Keep ur blinders on while we keep the same trash roster and lose in the first round, and get no free agents for years to come...

This guy really is touting Mills as a great asset to our team... And Marco... Lmfao! Of if overpaid Mills and Marco are cream of the crop to you, then I can see how u think we have a great front office...

Normal ppl see that the mills and Gasol contracts are trash... Why do u think they're trying to get rid of it now, dumbfuck? You're too busy trying to bash me when the world can see I'm right... Some of you same assholes on here will go into another thread and Bash Gasol and mills... HypocrisyThis is further proof you are misrepresenting what people say to suit your whiny bitch agenda btw.

[John B]

RC/Pop are elite in this league.

I guess the only issue in last seasons was they were too loyal to players that didn't show on court they deserved it.

"Well, Pau was willing to wait and tried to help us to get CP3...just give him a massive contract" "Patty is our emotional leader...just give him a massive contract"..."LMA had his worst playoffs round vs Warriors, he asked for a trade...just extend him instead of looking for younger/better stars in the league"

Again, PATFO is elite. One of the best FO in NBA business.

But I laugh so hard at the new/young executives behind them that will take control in a few years.

Those f*cking idiots were caring that much about owners' money over getting talent in offseason.

The young guys on Spurs FO think that being conservative and cheap will put them in a good spot in San Antonio. Sadly they aren't wrong.
Our FO is like my mutual fund. Nothing sexy but good long term. Too conservative perhaps. But hey San Antonio is NOT a big market. They mess up, it could be a downward spiral to oblivion. Believe me I am for trading that elusive athletic 3 and D who could push us over the hump. And I want them to take the risk. Go RC! Aldridge, Gay are not getting any younger. Now is the time if not enough time playing together for next year. Go out there!

[offset formation]

Where is this pile? What great moves has been done lately that outweigh the bad ones?

Lol. Who is gonna waste their time trying to convince a Kawhitter player fan of anything? Not me, man. It's more fun just to laugh at your posts that drip with butthurt juice.

[duncan2k5]

I'll relish in the fact that we all know I'm right... Lol

[james evans]

Kawhi should thank Popovich every chance he gets because he did him a favor with that trade. Even with Kawhi, I don't even think this team would be doing that much better. What the fuck...

[TheGreatYacht]

Liking what you have when you can't win a game without Rudy fucking Gay :lmao

PATFO fluffers :lmao

[ZeusWillJudge]

This is further proof you are misrepresenting what people say to suit your whiny bitch agenda btw.

Anyone who says "whiny bitch" as much as you do is a whiny bitch.

The Spurs FO was able to build in place for the better part of two decades, because they had a base of Tim, Tony, and Manu. They couldn't accept the fact that they didn't have the talent to put with Kawhi, and they didn't have trade pieces. They should have taken one year to rebuild two seasons ago. They let their collective ego tell them that they didn't have to do that. Losing Kawhi just sped up the decline. Mortgaging the future on Patti and Pau was unforgivably bad.

It doesn't matter what they did in the Tim Duncan era, they have been inept since. The goal is not to get into the playoffs, it is to get back to having a legit championship contender.
Getting late round bargains isn't enough to build a championship team. For not understanding all that, and for being a whiny bitch...

You have been judged and found wanting.

[UnWantedTheory]

Anyone who says "whiny bitch" as much as you do is a whiny bitch.

The Spurs FO was able to build in place for the better part of two decades, because they had a base of Tim, Tony, and Manu. They couldn't accept the fact that they didn't have the talent to put with Kawhi, and they didn't have trade pieces. They should have taken one year to rebuild two seasons ago. They let their collective ego tell them that they didn't have to do that. Losing Kawhi just sped up the decline. Mortgaging the future on Patti and Pau was unforgivably bad.

It doesn't matter what they did in the Tim Duncan era, they have been inept since. The goal is not to get into the playoffs, it is to get back to having a legit championship contender.
Getting late round bargains isn't enough to build a championship team. For not understanding all that, and for being a whiny bitch...

You have been judged and found wanting.
No one ever said PATFO hasn't made mistakes halfwit, the point is not to be such a cliff jumping retard about it.

[TimDunkem]

"RC is elite"

At what? Slamming down 6 packs behind the wheel? This glorified secretary's first choice in the Kawhi draft was Jonas fucking Valanciunas. :lmao

[emanueldavidginobili]

David, Timmy, Manu and Tony have done wonders for PATFO. They got unbelievablely lucky to have them. Was it a fluke that they drafted all of those guys? Was it pure luck?

[Snaq O'Meal]

David, Timmy, Manu and Tony have done wonders for PATFO. They got unbelievablely lucky to have them. Was it a fluke that they drafted all of those guys? Was it pure luck?

Drafting Timmy with the no. 1 pick was a no brainer.

Tony was scouted by Sam Presti. But the latter had to jump through hoops to convince Crater Face that Tony was a legit talent.

Manu was an afterthought. PATFO’s main target that year was Gordan Giricek. It was sheer luck Manu turned out the way he did. But if he didn’t defeat Team USA in the Olympics, he’ll probably be confined to chucking up 3s in Poop’s 4-Down system.

[venitian navigator]

Drafting Timmy with the no. 1 pick was a no brainer.

Tony was scouted by Sam Presti. But the latter had to jump through hoops to convince Crater Face that Tony was a legit talent.

Manu was an afterthought. PATFO’s main target that year was Gordan Giricek. It was sheer luck Manu turned out the way he did. But if he didn’t defeat Team USA in the Olympics, he’ll probably be confined to chucking up 3s in Poop’s 4-Down system.

That's all true...David and Tim were no brainers (and Pop was not so sure on Timmy); Manu was pure luck (he developed entirely in europe, winning championships at all levels) and Tony was on Presti (Pop didn't want to choose him).
The merits of our actual front office are others...just not talking about the past, the Kiwi trade was great and Kiwi choice was wonderful...till it lasted. Anderson choice and developement was good (till he lasted with us). Murray and White choices looks from good to very very good.
What is questionable is the Kiwi trade.
Unfortunately, imho, the win now mentality in a small market works only when you have young stars under contract...that's why, when it was clear that Kiwi was quitting, I was all in favor of a trade for young pieces...instead of a questionable all star. The point is that the FO, for unfortunate reasons, understood the situation too late.
But no point in regretting...if our goal was to make the play offs and rebuilding on the fly, so be it. In that sense, its frankly possible that LMA has some other years (his style helps a long career) and that DDR improve next year (or his dealt for a decent package) while we develop some young pieces that have already showed they can play at least a bit (White, DJM, Poeltl, Bertans) and hope to find gold with others (Walker, Metu, Eubanks, Moore, our next two first round and second round draft choices).

[RC_Drunkford]

people here forget that coach Bud almost had to fight Pop to convince him to trade George Hill for Kawhi. The problem with this FO is that it's full of yes men and nobody has the balls to tell Pop what he's doing wrong

[dbestpro]

I think the players are tuning him out. Playing defense is not a physical skill it is a mindset. Game after game they drop the ball on defense. Their is no passion or even interest in playing defense. What makes it so bad is it is rhe vets who are tuning him out. The fact that we have played an entire season without a true small forward is insane. That is in Pop too.

[RC_Drunkford]

I think the players are tuning him out. Playing defense is not a physical skill it is a mindset. Game after game they drop the ball on defense. Their is no passion or even interest in playing defense. What makes it so bad is it is rhe vets who are tuning him out. The fact that we have played an entire season without a true small forward is insane. That is in Pop too.

that would explain why they always turn the ball over after time outs

[BackHome]

Yeah after 4 or 5 straight looses you can tell players are playing like they don’t give a shit anymore.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Drafting Timmy with the no. 1 pick was a no brainer.

Tony was scouted by Sam Presti. But the latter had to jump through hoops to convince Crater Face that Tony was a legit talent.

Manu was an afterthought. PATFO’s main target that year was Gordan Giricek. It was sheer luck Manu turned out the way he did. But if he didn’t defeat Team USA in the Olympics, he’ll probably be confined to chucking up 3s in Poop’s 4-Down system.

The point I was making was that not only was the skill there but these guys are one of a kind unselfish players which come around once in a blue moon. There’s skill every where but the combination of skill, humility and unselfishness doesn’t come around all the time and to draft 4 players like that is insane.

[R. DeMurre]

Some of these arguments make no sense. People are saying, sure, the Spurs scouted/drafted Kawhi, Ginobili, and Parker, but they also considered other players that they didn't draft, and that kind of proves they're not good at drafting.

Hmmmm...

[Spurs da champs]

Just shutdown White for the rest of the season and tank. It will be so much more productive then getting swept in the 1st round. Pop if he was serious about being a playoff team could've actually tried in the trade deadline, but yeah we all know his approach to that.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Fuck off mate

dunken2K5 is right and you are wrong. Quite a simple concept.

[UnWantedTheory]

Just shutdown White for the rest of the season and tank. It will be so much more productive then getting swept in the 1st round. Pop if he was serious about being a playoff team could've actually tried in the trade deadline, but yeah we all know his approach to that.
Stop assuming you know what goes on behind the scenes. I get it, your butthurt the team didn't make a move you approve of, but fuck man, don't act like you know what they did or didn't try to do.