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Winehole23
02-23-2019, 10:29 AM
I'd chunk the billions in the SSI account or some remittance as part of a front loaded qualitative easing program.Cutting out the middle-man by helping people directly.

I wish we had tried that in 2009.

So called helicopter money isn't the worst idea in the world for an economy thrown out of joint.

TeyshaBlue
02-23-2019, 10:33 AM
Cutting out the middle-man by helping people directly.

I wish we had tried that in 2009.

So called helicopter money isn't the worst idea in the world for an economy thrown out of joint.

Back in the days when I was on the front line of pharmaceutical pricing compliance, I was continuously staggered by the pricing/rebate manipulation by the big GPOs. There are billions at play in these schemes.....and that's exactly what they are....schemes.

TeyshaBlue
02-23-2019, 10:35 AM
The first candidate that successfully codifies the concept of supporting Society, wins.

boutons_deux
02-23-2019, 11:04 AM
'Everyone. Needs. To. Watch...' Democrat Dianne Feinstein Explain to Children Why She Won't Back Green New Deal

"This is a fight for our generation's survival. Her reaction is why young people desperately want new leadership in Congress."

Feinstein responding with "smugness and disrespect" when the group explains that while their futures are the ones that will be impacted

The Senator responded by asking for their ages, stating: "Well, you did not vote for me."


"I’ve been doing this for 30 years," Feinstein says in the video.

"You come in here and say it has to be my way or the highway.

I don't respond to that...I know what I'm doing.

Maybe people should listen a little bit."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/02/22/everyone-needs-watch-democrat-dianne-feinstein-explain-children-why-she-wont-back?cd-origin=rss&utm_term=%27Everyone.%20Needs.%20To.%20Watch...%27 %20Democrat%20Dianne%20Feinstein%20Explain%20to%20 Children%20Why%20She%20Won%27t%20Back%20Green%20Ne w%20Deal&utm_campaign=Weekly%20Newsletter%20-%20During%20Fundraiser%20-%20With%20Fundraising%20Message&utm_content=email&utm_source=Act-On+Software&utm_medium=email&cm_mmc=Act-On%20Software-_-email-_-%27Everyone.%20Needs.%20To.%20Watch.%20It.%27%20%7 C%20Your%20Week%20In%20Review%20-_-%27Everyone.%20Needs.%20To.%20Watch...%27%20Democr at%20Dianne%20Feinstein%20Explain%20to%20Children% 20Why%20She%20Won%27t%20Back%20Green%20New%20Deal

I have ancient friends on the dark side who hate DiFi, but they'd love her slapping down these uppity kids.

DiFi and BigFinance hubby have net worth of about $100M

Winehole23
02-23-2019, 11:16 AM
a bit tone deaf, but I guess you missed the part where she offered one of the kids an internship.

Feinstein said what she said but the unedited vid tells a somewhat different tale.

boutons_deux
02-23-2019, 11:18 AM
a bit tone deaf, but I guess you missed the part where she offered one of the kids an internship.

Feinstein said what she said but the unedited vid tells a somewhat different tale.

offering an unpaid? internship doesn't change her attitude to the kids nor towards GND

Winehole23
02-23-2019, 11:46 AM
offering an unpaid? internship doesn't change her attitude to the kids nor towards GNDno, it doesn't.

bash away, I can think of few people more deserving -- it's likely that a majority of the air pollution that has been released in all human history happened while she was in office.

ducks
02-25-2019, 12:41 PM
Ocasio-Cortez: People Maybe Shouldn’t Reproduce Due To Climate Change

ducks
02-25-2019, 09:03 PM
"Democrats are setting themselves up for failure in the general election by agreeing to every single progressive policy touted by the activist left including the Green New Deal, taxes on the wealthy, Medicare for All, and now packing the Supreme Court,” argued Sarah Dolan, executive director of the pro-GOP opposition research group ‘America Rising.’

ducks
02-25-2019, 09:19 PM
“Our planet is going to face disaster if we don’t turn this ship around,” she said, as she chopped sweet potatoes. “And so it’s basically like, there is a scientific consensus that the lives of children are going to be very difficult and it does lead, I think young people, to have a legitimate question. Ya know, should—is it okay to still have children?”

spurraider21
02-25-2019, 09:37 PM
Ocasio-Cortez: People Maybe Shouldn’t Reproduce Due To Climate Change


“Our planet is going to face disaster if we don’t turn this ship around,” she said, as she chopped sweet potatoes. “And so it’s basically like, there is a scientific consensus that the lives of children are going to be very difficult and it does lead, I think young people, to have a legitimate question. Ya know, should—is it okay to still have children?”
:lol same thing as the other thread

are you a bot?

ducks
02-25-2019, 10:26 PM
All prominent Democratic 2020 presidential hopefuls in the Senate voted down the measure, including Bernie Sanders of Vermont, Kamala Harris of California, Cory Booker of New Jersey, Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts. The final vote was 53-44 to end Democratic delaying tactics -- seven votes short of the 60 needed.

Dems block 'born alive' bill to provide medical care to infants who survive failed abortions

Pavlov
02-25-2019, 10:36 PM
All prominent Democratic 2020 presidential hopefuls in the Senate voted down the measure, including Bernie Sanders of Vermont, Kamala Harris of California, Cory Booker of New Jersey, Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts. The final vote was 53-44 to end Democratic delaying tactics -- seven votes short of the 60 needed.

Dems block 'born alive' bill to provide medical care to infants who survive failed abortionsWhere is it legal to kill them?

SouthTexasRancher
02-25-2019, 10:45 PM
These goofy dems running the party these days are going to hand Trump a landslide victory and give the House back to the republicans. This group running for POTUS are a bunch of kooks.

Nbadan
02-25-2019, 10:46 PM
The real question is where is it legal to let them die? Not one recorded prosecuted case....

ducks
02-25-2019, 11:17 PM
NEW MARIST POLL: AMERICANS MAKE DRAMATIC AND SUDDEN MOVE TOWARD PRO-LIFE LABEL
http://www.kofc.org/un/en/news/polls.html#/

February poll: 47 percent pro-choice, 47 percent pro-life.
January poll: 55 percent pro-choice, 38 percent pro-life.

RandomGuy
02-26-2019, 12:08 AM
These goofy dems running the party these days are going to hand Trump a landslide victory and give the House back to the republicans. This group running for POTUS are a bunch of kooks.

Care to bet who keeps control of the House in 2020?

SouthTexasRancher
02-26-2019, 06:10 AM
Care to bet who keeps control of the House in 2020?

Nope, because I couldn't care less. Both parties are totally screwed up. Neither party is any good at getting things done. However, both are superb at blocking the other side. If it was up to me I'd get a big broom and sweep 'em all out of office.

RandomGuy
02-26-2019, 03:19 PM
Nope, because I couldn't care less. Both parties are totally screwed up. Neither party is any good at getting things done. However, both are superb at blocking the other side. If it was up to me I'd get a big broom and sweep 'em all out of office.

More "both parties" lazy thinking. Rather than try to figure out if they both are equally bad, you go with what is known as a "false equivalence" mistake in reasoning.

"Both sides" have arguments in the debate over Flat Earth, so they must be equally valid theories... right?

Reality rarely works that way.

SouthTexasRancher
02-26-2019, 10:28 PM
More "both parties" lazy thinking. Rather than try to figure out if they both are equally bad, you go with what is known as a "false equivalence" mistake in reasoning.

"Both sides" have arguments in the debate over Flat Earth, so they must be equally valid theories... right?

Reality rarely works that way.

Asshole, pull your idiotic, brain dead head out of your ass so you can take a shit. I really don't give a damn about you dimdumb socialists. Feel free to abort all the babies you want, allow all the drugs on the planet to freely come into the USA, raise your taxes (oh wait, you low life's don't pay taxes....my bad), live off of my taxes by getting food stamps and living in your rundown Section 8 housing, allow gangs to kill, steal and cause us law abiding taxpayers to foot the bill while dick suckers like you rot in prison. Do as you please, random guy because seriously I don't give a damn about you.....PERIOD..! Now if you don't mind I need to take the time to :lmao at you.

ducks
03-03-2019, 01:16 AM
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez attacks ICE as a 'dangerous agency'

ducks
03-03-2019, 01:16 AM
Ocasio-Cortez responds after report accuses her of 'Green New Deal' hypocrisy: 'I also fly & use A/C

Winehole23
03-03-2019, 01:56 AM
Ocasio-Cortez responds after report accuses her of 'Green New Deal' hypocrisy: 'I also fly & use A/CIsn't the whole point of the GND that systemic change is needed and individual lifestyle tweaks won't get the job done?

CosmicCowboy
03-03-2019, 10:07 AM
Democrats won the house because moderate Democrats won primaries and then turned red districts blue. AOCs victory had nothing to do with it. She just replaced blue with blue. If Pelosi cant rein in her juniors like AOC and the party keeps sliding left it puts those new seats in danger. That is why 27 Democrats voted with Republicans last week. Self survival.

Winehole23
03-03-2019, 10:38 AM
CC in the pose of the purveyor of conventional wisdom, wishcasting the DSA genie back into the bottle. AOC has turned him into a defender of Nancy Pelosi, no mean feat for a male chauvinist pig like CC.

CosmicCowboy
03-03-2019, 03:04 PM
Why the hate, winehole? I'm simply pointing out AOC is damaging your party and Pelosi knows it.

Winehole23
03-03-2019, 04:50 PM
No hate, you like to bash women, is all.

I happen to think you're wrong about which direction the Dems need to go. Had DJT come out with big social spending and public works a la Huey Long, the Dems would be obsolete already.

TeyshaBlue
03-03-2019, 06:27 PM
No hate, you like to bash women, is all.

I happen to think you're wrong about which direction the Dems need to go. Had DJT come out with big social spending and public works a la Huey Long, the Dems would be obsolete already.

Actually, CC has a valid point...and its not new.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/30/democratic-party-culture-divide-wars-working-class-blue-collar-221913

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/02/28/democrat-party-divisions-play-out-behind-closed-doors/

ducks
03-03-2019, 07:32 PM
No hate, you like to bash women, is all.

I happen to think you're wrong about which direction the Dems need to go. Had DJT come out with big social spending and public works a la Huey Long, the Dems would be obsolete already.
So do you hate white men because you bash trump?
Disagree with her does not make you love to bash woman


I think there a woman president in 16-48 years.

RandomGuy
03-03-2019, 07:35 PM
Asshole, pull your idiotic, brain dead head out of your ass so you can take a shit. I really don't give a damn about you dimdumb socialists. Feel free to abort all the babies you want, allow all the drugs on the planet to freely come into the USA, raise your taxes (oh wait, you low life's don't pay taxes....my bad), live off of my taxes by getting food stamps and living in your rundown Section 8 housing, allow gangs to kill, steal and cause us law abiding taxpayers to foot the bill while dick suckers like you rot in prison. Do as you please, random guy because seriously I don't give a damn about you.....PERIOD..! Now if you don't mind I need to take the time to :lmao at you.

(yawn)

Pavlov
03-03-2019, 07:36 PM
I think there a woman president in 16-48 years.Bold.

boutons_deux
03-03-2019, 07:37 PM
Isn't the whole point of the GND that systemic change is needed and individual lifestyle tweaks won't get the job done?

sure, but Repugs dupe their ignorant base with stupid cheap shots at the opposition

eg, Obama ate arugula.

RandomGuy
03-03-2019, 07:40 PM
Democrats won the house because moderate Democrats won primaries and then turned red districts blue. AOCs victory had nothing to do with it. She just replaced blue with blue. If Pelosi cant rein in her juniors like AOC and the party keeps sliding left it puts those new seats in danger. That is why 27 Democrats voted with Republicans last week. Self survival.

Self delusion.

Congress Thinks Voters Are Way More Conservative Than They Actually Are. Here’s Why.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/study-congress-overestimates-the-publics-conservatism.html

RandomGuy
03-03-2019, 07:46 PM
Actually, CC has a valid point...and its not new.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/30/democratic-party-culture-divide-wars-working-class-blue-collar-221913

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/02/28/democrat-party-divisions-play-out-behind-closed-doors/

I think progressives are smart enough to understand the realities of moderate districts, and won't really go "freedom caucus of the left". That is one of the differences between the straightjacket of the extreme tea party right, and the new progressive wing that got into Congress on the left. I may end up wrong about that, but am tuned in to the chatter enough to have a sense of where that is going.

CosmicCowboy
03-03-2019, 08:39 PM
I think progressives are smart enough to understand the realities of moderate districts, and won't really go "freedom caucus of the left". That is one of the differences between the straightjacket of the extreme tea party right, and the new progressive wing that got into Congress on the left. I may end up wrong about that, but am tuned in to the chatter enough to have a sense of where that is going.

Oh yeah. You street walked for Beto. You are an expert now.

CosmicCowboy
03-03-2019, 08:42 PM
You know RG, it's sad that you cant disagree about politics without attacking those that disagree with you personally.

TeyshaBlue
03-03-2019, 09:14 PM
I think progressives are smart enough to understand the realities of moderate districts, and won't really go "freedom caucus of the left". That is one of the differences between the straightjacket of the extreme tea party right, and the new progressive wing that got into Congress on the left. I may end up wrong about that, but am tuned in to the chatter enough to have a sense of where that is going.

One of my oldest friends is very involved in the Texas legislature. As a very dyed in the wool Dem, and likely better connected than you, he echoes these concerns. In fact he forwarded me the politico piece.

boutons_deux
03-03-2019, 10:29 PM
Old-line establishment Dems are responsible for doing nothing about the oligarchy dragging the Repugs into the shitbags they are now, nothing about the extreme inequality created by the oligarchy's whore Repugs for 40 years.

The Clintons are as horribly neo-liberal as any Repug. And Reagan-Thatcher neoliberalism has deeply fucked over 100Ms.

Trash's Exec "Bannon's deconstruction of the administrative state" will casue 100Ks of diseased and dead Americans.

The Dem establishment offers NOTHING but the same old fecklessness in the face of the long-time, on-going onslaught of the oligarchy on America.

See Pelosi's interview with Rolling Stone to see how badly the Dem establishment continues to fuck over USA.

Winehole23
03-03-2019, 11:04 PM
Actually, CC has a valid point...and its not new.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/30/democratic-party-culture-divide-wars-working-class-blue-collar-221913

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/02/28/democrat-party-divisions-play-out-behind-closed-doors/CC's crocodile tears about disunity on the Democratic side are unconvincimg, but it's not amiss to point out the electoral disadvantage of disunity. Nor to point out the rift between Pelosi and Hoyer in regard to stopping Congressional Republicans.

Whoever can get the half of the country that doesn't typically vote to vote will win.

If that doesn't happen it's probably four more years of Trump, but I was wrong about 2016: maybe hatred of Trump will be enough to get Dems over the finish line, but I tend to doubt it.

CosmicCowboy
03-03-2019, 11:05 PM
Old-line establishment Dems are responsible for doing nothing about the oligarchy dragging the Repugs into the shitbags they are now, nothing about the extreme inequality created by the oligarchy's whore Repugs for 40 years.

The Clintons are as horribly neo-liberal as any Repug. And Reagan-Thatcher neoliberalism has deeply fucked over 100Ms.

Trash's Exec "Bannon's deconstruction of the administrative state" will casue 100Ks of diseased and dead Americans.

The Dem establishment offers NOTHING but the same old fecklessness in the face of the long-time, on-going onslaught of the oligarchy on America.

See Pelosi's interview with Rolling Stone to see how badly the Dem establishment continues to fuck over USA.

Is RG boutons alt?

Winehole23
03-03-2019, 11:06 PM
So do you hate white men because you bash trump?
Disagree with her does not make you love to bash woman


I think there a woman president in 16-48 years.You barely make sense, ducks.

TeyshaBlue
03-04-2019, 12:19 AM
You barely make sense, ducks.
On a good day....

BD24
03-04-2019, 01:29 PM
You barely make sense, ducks.
Saying barely is awfully generous of you. Ducks makes no sense about 90% of the time tbh.

Chris
03-06-2019, 04:29 PM
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1103398092567588864

RandomGuy
03-07-2019, 12:08 PM
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1103398092567588864

That says more than you know.

Democracy bad... party over country.

#oblivious Chris.

Hail Satan.

spurraider21
03-07-2019, 01:35 PM
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1103398092567588864
biggest swamp monster

Chris
03-07-2019, 03:25 PM
Herr Mitch

Pavlov
03-07-2019, 03:34 PM
Swamp good now.