Game Thread: Spurs @ Jazz — Sat. (2/9) - 4:00/C (12:00am Riga Time)

[Genovaswitness]

3? Try 4 :lol


Four games now

worse than I thought. no moves at the trade deadline, pop probably airing 12 years a slave for the fifth time this month on the bus ride home....but at least we beat kawhi right..

[GreekSpursfan]

Spurs need to make a decision this off season. They traded their best asset for a win-now player. They need to go all-in to win now then.

If they aren’t willing to do that then why did you trade for DeRozan? But what’s done is done & even if they don’t want to go all in they need to admit their mistake and blow it up. Can’t have another season like this in the middle.

They have to admit the bad Demar assessment as a player and his current psychological condition and proceed to tank. Can't go the delusional route because anything else will be just that.

[cd021]

Tell me the trade that turns this around - there are too many holes at the moment. This team will likely be the 7-8th seed regardless with a quick exit. The Nephew trashed this season plain and simple. Last season too.

You could mortgage your futurelike the Mavericks did. They may not have any ones for the next 3-4 years. They have to sign a guy with a blown out knee to a MAX contract this summer. Brilliant. Mark Cuban and his organization always try to take a short cut and overplay their hand.


That was secretly a low key bad deal for the Mavs. They risked a shit ton for a 7'3 center that blew out his ACL. Two firsts plus trading a player who was taken in the top 10 in the 2017 draft. That doesn't even mention that they are giving up the 11th pick (currently to ATL this year) New York fleeced them tbh.

[Harry Callahan]

Does anyone REALLY think the Spurs were delighted to jettison Nephew for what they got in return. It was the best crummy deal they could get unfortunately.

I just want to see players who aren't just going through the motions. There are guys who want to compete and win on the roster, but there are too many square pegs trying to fit into round holes.

I would prefer to see the team get in the lottery at this point. The product being put out there now is not very good.

I'm beginning to think Derrick White is pretty dag gum good. I hope he and Dejonte can co-exist next year. The uncontested threes will come to an end, which will be a good thing.

[Killakobe81]

True. I get why Pop didn't want to engage with the lakers but i don't understand how you do that trade after how awful Derozan and Jakob were in the playoffs. I would have demanded Siakam be included in the trade.

If you trade a superstar you must always get the top young prospect back or you failed...

[Degoat]

Does anyone REALLY think the Spurs were delighted to jettison Nephew for what they got in return. It was the best crummy deal they could get unfortunately.

I just want to see players who aren't just going through the motions. There are guys who want to compete and win on the roster, but there are too many square pegs trying to fit into round holes.

I would prefer to see the team get in the lottery at this point. The product being put out there now is not very good.

I'm beginning to think Derrick White is pretty dag gum good. I hope he and Dejonte can co-exist next year. The uncontested threes will come to an end, which will be a good thing.

True im with you on that, I think the reason spurs didn’t make a move is they really think Murray will be a star. Derrick has been damn good probably been my fav player this season

[Killakobe81]

Does anyone REALLY think the Spurs were delighted to jettison Nephew for what they got in return. It was the best crummy deal they could get unfortunately.

I just want to see players who aren't just going through the motions. There are guys who want to compete and win on the roster, but there are too many square pegs trying to fit into round holes.

I would prefer to see the team get in the lottery at this point. The product being put out there now is not very good.

I'm beginning to think Derrick White is pretty dag gum good. I hope he and Dejonte can co-exist next year. The uncontested threes will come to an end, which will be a good thing.

No one crsps on the trade if you get DDR and Siakam just a dumb deal

[Spurch]

You'll seem to be only bashing your supposedly team, we are doing the best we can with what we have, where's your loyalty "bout blow it up" steupesss that have never been the Spurs way look back at our history 1 thing is missing I would agree is the lack of defense, playoffs is this imminent and mainly because of coach pop, 22 seasons of making the playoffs is on the line.

[SpurPadre]

But they're overpaid!! :cry :cry :lol snot nose spurm fans :lol

And Forbes brings more value, pennies on the dollar!!! :cry

[Killakobe81]

Nah. SA has first round picks no contract over 2 years and lots of young talent.

Lots of young talent? White and Murray look promising but need to stay healthy Walker is unknown outside of the athleticism

[Harry Callahan]

All I asked was for PATFO to make an effort in improving the team. LMA isn't 24, he's about to be 34 and that isn't the NEW 24 in the NBA. We should've maximized what will likely be LMA's last All-Star season. Instead, they've left him to rot with a deeply flawed team around him to say the least.

So the team is deeply flawed yet a move is necessary in your view. There are too many fundamental issues with this team to "improve" it in one specific deal. A significant deal will probably involve dealing future #1 picks. I don't thinks this team is one move away from being a real contender. Not even two moves. It would be like moving deck chairs on the Titanic.

[timtonymanu]

You'll seem to be only bashing your supposedly team, we are doing the best we can with what we have, where's your loyalty "bout blow it up" steupesss that have never been the Spurs way look back at our history 1 thing is missing I would agree is the lack of defense, playoffs is this imminent and mainly because of coach pop, 22 seasons of making the playoffs is on the line.

Who cares about the playoffs if we’re just gonna get smoked in the 1st round? Sorry some of us prefer a higher draft pick (something PATFO is still competent at handling).

[GreekSpursfan]

Does anyone REALLY think the Spurs were delighted to jettison Nephew for what they got in return. It was the best crummy deal they could get unfortunately.

I just want to see players who aren't just going through the motions. There are guys who want to compete and win on the roster, but there are too many square pegs trying to fit into round holes.

I would prefer to see the team get in the lottery at this point. The product being put out there now is not very good.

I'm beginning to think Derrick White is pretty dag gum good. I hope he and Dejonte can co-exist next year. The uncontested threes will come to an end, which will be a good thing.

Agree 100% with this.

[SpurPadre]

So the team is deeply flawed yet a move is necessary in your view. There are too many fundamental issues with this team to "improve" it in one specific deal. A significant deal will probably involve dealing future #1 picks. I don't thinks this team is one move away from being a real contender. Not even two moves. It would be like moving deck chairs on the Titanic.

So you're just going to waste away a 34 year old Aldridge in what will likely be the most he'll have left on his tank?

[objective]

Spurs need to make a decision this off season. They traded their best asset for a win-now player. They need to go all-in to win now then.

If they aren’t willing to do that then why did you trade for DeRozan? But what’s done is done & even if they don’t want to go all in they need to admit their mistake and blow it up. Can’t have another season like this in the middle.

Pretty much.

They knew they only had at most 2 more seasons with Aldridge and DeRozan, maybe just 1.

So instead of improving the roster by dumping Untouchables like Pau with their assets like Milutinov and the 2 first round picks this summer who would be in Austin all next season getting over themselves anyway ....

They did nothing

And now they have Pau getting 5 minutes against one of the bigger NBA teams.

But they won't admit their mistake.

They'll trudge along next year with more guys like Cunningham.

[Harry Callahan]

No one crsps on the trade if you get DDR and Siakam just a dumb deal

Nephew purposely trashed on his own trade value ("LA or nothing") to torpedo the Spurs as an organization. SA may have gotten a better deal without the selfish demands of "the Group".....

[timtonymanu]

0-8 on the RRT would be so hilarious.

[Harry Callahan]

So you're just going to waste away a 34 year old Aldridge in what will likely be the most he'll have left on his tank?

I'll ask you again. What is the deal that turns this around? Please enlighten me. The Nephew quitting sealed this deal. Period. LMA is a good player, but SA needs a fundamental reboot right now. LMA may have to move on as well as DeRozan.

[DPG21920]

Lots of young talent? White and Murray look promising but need to stay healthy Walker is unknown outside of the athleticism

Ya. White looks great. Murray to. Lonnie has plenty of potential. Forbes and Bertans are elite shooters. Plenty of young talent.

[Killakobe81]

Nephew purposely trashed on his own trade value ("LA or nothing") to torpedo the Spurs as an organization. SA may have gotten a better deal without the selfish demands of "the Group".....

Can't trade Kawhi without Siakm or AR least onouby coming back. Poetl is okay but if you get Siakm in Spurs system it's not equal but at least 75 cents on the dollar

[Killakobe81]

Ya. White looks great. Murray to. Lonnie has plenty of potential. Forbes and Bertans are elite shooters. Plenty of young talent.

Promising, not great. I really like White especially... Great is a bit overstated...

[Keepin' it real]

Wtf 4 o'clock game???

[GreekSpursfan]

People, what happened to realism? You think there was a team out there that was willing to give us top prospects or top lvl talent for a guy who along with his group made clear that he wants out no matter what and only wants to go to LA and nowhere else coming of an "injury" and sitting out almost the entire season? I am 100% certain that the Derozan, Poetl, pick, deal was the best one available.

[GAustex]

Wtf 4 o'clock game???
You missed a massacre

[DPG21920]

Promising, not great. I really like White especially... Great is a bit overstated...

All NBA defense isn’t great?

[Harry Callahan]

Can't trade Kawhi without Siakm or AR least onouby coming back. Poetl is okay but if you get Siakm in Spurs system it's not equal but at least 75 cents on the dollar

The Spurs bit on the deal because no other serious bids for Nephew occurred - the "Group" made it clear before the deal that it would be a one year rental for any team not in LA.

The Clippers will pay Max dollar for a soon to be declining player with Chronic Knee and Quad issues. The issues with the Laker roster along with LeBron running the team will turn it into a one team race for the "Group".

[DPG21920]

Promising, not great. I really like White especially... Great is a bit overstated...


And that is not even taking into consideration SA has been a playoff team making runs and these aren’t even lottery picks. Yet SA youth are step for step with most teams outside of a great prospect (Tatum, Mitchell, Simmons) here or there.

[Harry Callahan]

#2 could have mitigated a lot of the problems we see here now, but his attitude and effort would have been compromised in SA with all the poison being spewed by his people. It's too bad. The guy will likely be a shadow of himself by the time he hits 30 years old.

[DPG21920]

People, what happened to realism? You think there was a team out there that was willing to give us top prospects or top lvl talent for a guy who along with his group made clear that he wants out no matter what and only wants to go to LA and nowhere else coming of an "injury" and sitting out almost the entire season? I am 100% certain that the Derozan, Poetl, pick, deal was the best one available.

It’s all relative. There were draft pick packages available with draft picks where SA could have gone that direction. They chose and actively sought out a win-now player.

[Killakobe81]

All NBA defense isn’t great?

All nba defense gets it wrong all the time... Though Murray is a good defender but doesn't automatically make him great he is a prospect with a lot of promise... But every team overrates their young players even Celts fans.
Plus many of the Spurs young players turn to crap after they leave and or look less than stellar away from the Pop system including Simmons, Kyle and Dedmon mist recently... So there is that.

[Killakobe81]

I like both guys (White/Murray) though not talking shit.
Forbes and Bertans are cool but just specialists. They are prime candidates to suck when they leave SA...

[DPG21920]

I like both guys (White/Murray) though not talking shit.
Forbes and Bertans are cool but just specialists. They are prime candidates to suck when they leave SA...

Sure. I’m just saying all things considered sa has great youth (meaning plenty of youth, some with higher ceilings, some lower, but all nba level players)

[Killakobe81]

Sure. I’m just saying all things considered sa has great youth (meaning plenty of youth, some with higher ceilings, some lower, but all nba level players)

Good news at least coach Bud is out there running a similar system... Bertans and Forbes could thrive there too

[Spurch]

I'll ask you again. What is the deal that turns this around? Please enlighten me. The Nephew quitting sealed this deal. Period. LMA is a good player, but SA needs a fundamental reboot right now. LMA may have to move on as well as DeRozan.

Acquiring Nikola vucevic

[Rosewood]

As long as Lakers don't rang.

[rascal]

People, what happened to realism? You think there was a team out there that was willing to give us top prospects or top lvl talent for a guy who along with his group made clear that he wants out no matter what and only wants to go to LA and nowhere else coming of an "injury" and sitting out almost the entire season? I am 100% certain that the Derozan, Poetl, pick, deal was the best one available.

No it wasn't. The Clipper deal(Tobias, 12 and 13 and keep Green) right before the draft was better.

[rascal]

The Spurs bit on the deal because no other serious bids for Nephew occurred - the "Group" made it clear before the deal that it would be a one year rental for any team not in LA.

The Clippers will pay Max dollar for a soon to be declining player with Chronic Knee and Quad issues. The issues with the Laker roster along with LeBron running the team will turn it into a one team race for the "Group".

The Spurs dragged their feet too long in trading Leonard. They miscalculated that he really was done with the Spurs. Draft night was the time to pull the trigger on a block buster trade and get a lottery pick or two in a deal.

[DPG21920]

The Spurs dragged their feet too long in trading Leonard. They miscalculated that he really was done with the Spurs. Draft night was the time to pull the trigger on a block buster trade and get a lottery pick or two in a deal.

I think it was the opposite. I think they should have waited, kept Kawhi into this year and called his bluff that he sits 2 seasons in a row in a contract year.

We saw Tobias Harris on an expiring deal net more than Kawhi. Kawhi’s value could not have gotten any lower. Him showing he was healthy would have improved SA chances at getting something great. But that is hindsight

[Degoat]

The funny thing is it doesn’t matter if we make the playoffs or if we don’t lol I’m always ride or die with my spurs and want them to succeed but no team has a chance to beat the warriors anyways

[rascal]

I think it was the opposite. I think they should have waited, kept Kawhi into this year and called his bluff that he sits 2 seasons in a row in a contract year.

We saw Tobias Harris on an expiring deal net more than Kawhi. Kawhi’s value could not have gotten any lower. Him showing he was healthy would have improved SA chances at getting something great. But that is hindsight

But Leonard made it clear he wanted to go to the Lakers. So not the same as Tobias Harris. Why would anyone trade something great for him for two months and lose him.

[DPG21920]

But Leonard made it clear he wanted to go to the Lakers. So not the same as Tobias Harris. Why would anyone trade something great for him for two months and lose him.

Because he’s 10x the player Harris is and while Harris never demanded a trade, he’s a free agent next season with no guarantees of signing in PHI.

[GreekSpursfan]

Because he’s 10x the player Harris is and while Harris never demanded a trade, he’s a free agent next season with no guarantees of signing in PHI.

But Harris was not coming of an "injury" who sidelined him for an entire season. An "injured" very rusty kawhi Leonard is not 10x the player Harris is in the eyes of all GM's before they actually see him play. Hell, he might not be better period. You can never trade top talent and top picks for a case like his. Masai is a top GM but it was obvious that he had stopped believing in Derozan, he wanted to move on and gamble and our FO thought that with a change of scenery Derozan would come alive again(he finished the season absolutely terrible), they were wrong.

[TDomination]

I miss our 5 game winning streak :(

[bic50]

#2 could have mitigated a lot of the problems we see here now, but his attitude and effort would have been compromised in SA with all the poison being spewed by his people. It's too bad. The guy will likely be a shadow of himself by the time he hits 30 years old.
Ok skip bayless

[Spurs da champs]

Ok skip bayless

:lol

[Bynumite]

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[Slippy]

Edit. Wrong thread