Canadian women emerge from ISIS's crumbling caliphate

[DMC]

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/02/09/middleeast/canadian-women-isis-syria-wedeman-intl/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fedition.cnn.com%2F


What's your thoughts on this?

Two questions emerge right away:

1. CNN indicated that the idea that ISIS has been defeated is mythical. If this caliphate is crumbling how can that be?

2. (Two parts) What are we doing as a country to prevent these people from coming into the United States and what is Canada doing about the fact that they joined a war against their own country?

So let's go ahead and get all the douchey wall comments out of the way first and then someone can actually comment.

[Pavlov]

1) If there are still tens of thousands of ISIS members around, it's probably not defeated.

2) a) Ask them.

b) Ask them.

[koriwhat]

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/02/09/middleeast/canadian-women-isis-syria-wedeman-intl/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fedition.cnn.com%2F


What's your thoughts on this?

Two questions emerge right away:

1. CNN indicated that the idea that ISIS has been defeated is mythical. If this caliphate is crumbling how can that be?

2. (Two parts) What are we doing as a country to prevent these people from coming into the United States and what is Canada doing about the fact that they joined a war against their own country?

So let's go ahead and get all the douchey wall comments out of the way first and then someone can actually comment.

all should be shot in the head!

[DMC]

1) If there are still tens of thousands of ISIS members around, it's probably not defeated.

2) a) Ask them.

b) Ask them.

So do you consider defeat to be the death of every single one of them? I'm on board with that but I'm curious as to why you give such an answer.

For the second, isn't there some circular reasoning going on there? Would you really just trust whatever they say? I'm assuming by saying they you meant ISIS members or people you suspect to be ISIS members.

[Winehole23]

ISIS may no longer be the most pressing threat in the region:


In discussing the demise or survival of Isis, pundits make the same glaring omission. They ignore the fact that by far the largest stronghold in Syria held by an al-Qaeda type group is not the few shattered villages for which Isis has been battling in the east of the country. Much more important is the jihadi enclave in and around Idlib province in north-west Syria which is held by Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/hayat-tahrir-al-sham) (Liberation of Levant Organisation), a powerful breakaway faction from Isis which founded the group under the name of Jabhat al-Nusra (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/jabhat-al-nusra) in 2011 and with whom it shares the same fanatical beliefs and military tactics. Its leaders wear suicide vests studded with metal balls just like their Isis equivalents.







It is not that the US has any doubts about what HTS is – since last year, a foreign terrorist organisation despite a name change. Nathan A Sales, the State Department’s coordinator of counterterrorism, noted that “today’s designation serves notice that the United States is not fooled by this al-Qaeda affiliate’s attempt to rebrand itself.”




Over the past year HTS has expanded its control to almost all of the Idlib enclave, which the UN estimates to have a population of three million, half of whom are refugees, and can put at least 50,000 fighters into the field
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-isis-syria-iraq-iran-terror-islamic-state-washington-a8769936.html

[Winehole23]

Blindness in the west to this embattled al-Qaeda-run mini-state, which has a population the same size as Wales and a fighting force not much smaller than the British army, is explained by the fact that such an admission would reveal that the US and its allies are weak players in Syria and there is more than one jihadi group in the country. A recurrent and disastrous theme of western involvement in the war in Syria is for governments and media to focus only on part of the multilayered crisis in which they are engaged.

[Blake]

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/02/09/middleeast/canadian-women-isis-syria-wedeman-intl/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fedition.cnn.com%2F


What's your thoughts on this?

Two questions emerge right away:

1. CNN indicated that the idea that ISIS has been defeated is mythical.

From article:

"But on the bus, it seemed, reality had sunk in. The caliphate is on the brink of death. This is the end."

[Blake]

Your assumption of what CNN implied aside, just because their caliphate has crumbled, it's ridiculous to claim complete victory over an organization that uses guerrilla warfare tactics and ideology to recruit members worldwide.

Not sure why a couple of Canadian Muslim wives moving to Syria is a big deal for you.

[CosmicCowboy]

They have apparently been defeated as an organized military with the ability to occupy and hold territory. That doesn't mean all the whackjobs are dead. They will always be capable of terroristic acts and suicide bomb type shit forever.

The rational question is if a military occupation force is a deterrent to these terrorists hiding among the general population or just another target for them.

[DMC]

Your assumption of what CNN implied aside, just because their caliphate has crumbled, it's ridiculous to claim complete victory over an organization that uses guerrilla warfare tactics and ideology to recruit members worldwide.

Not sure why a couple of Canadian Muslim wives moving to Syria is a big deal for you.

Your Pavlov impression it spot on but you should really try to seek your own identity.

[DMC]

They have apparently been defeated as an organized military with the ability to occupy and hold territory. That doesn't mean all the whackjobs are dead. They will always be capable of terroristic acts and suicide bomb type shit forever.

The rational question is if a military occupation force is a deterrent to these terrorists hiding among the general population or just another target for them.

Or just a recruiting tool.

[DMC]

From article:

"But on the bus, it seemed, reality had sunk in. The caliphate is on the brink of death. This is the end."

Yes no shi'ite. CNN in an early article had tried to debunk trump's claim that ISIS has been defeated in Syria. If the caliphate is on the brink of death and this is the end well what the hell does that mean?

[DMC]

ISIS may no longer be the most pressing threat in the region:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-isis-syria-iraq-iran-terror-islamic-state-washington-a8769936.html

Not our business. People want us over there patrolling but they don't want us to protect our own borders.

[Fabbs]

Poll: Women who left to marry ISIS tards and now want back. What should happen?

Don't forget to vote:

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268155&highlight=caliphate

[Blake]

Your Pavlov impression it spot on but you should really try to seek your own identity.

Dmc thinks he's a psychologist

[apalisoc_9]

I thought you distrust CNN op? Weird how people use news outlets nowadys.

[Blake]

Yes no shi'ite. CNN in an early article had tried to debunk trump's claim that ISIS has been defeated in Syria. If the caliphate is on the brink of death and this is the end well what the hell does that mean?

Why don't you post the early article, genius.