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Darth_Pelican
02-15-2019, 12:00 PM
per Woj

johnnymoore
02-15-2019, 12:25 PM
Should've taken the Lakers deal. Will pop hire him back?

AaronY
02-15-2019, 12:34 PM
just in time

Broly
02-15-2019, 12:35 PM
Lakers got played hard, holy shit. :rollin

baseline bum
02-15-2019, 12:40 PM
Should've taken the Lakers deal.

Why? They can trade him for garbage any time they want.

ambchang
02-15-2019, 12:55 PM
Two fold message:
1) players league. Bend over
2) do what the lakers want you to do.

Clipper Nation
02-15-2019, 01:17 PM
Why? They can trade him for garbage any time they want.

Also, why would they ever let the GM they were about to fire make the biggest move in franchise history?

Kobe'sAchilles
02-15-2019, 01:18 PM
He was going to be fired regardless. He's a horrible GM tbh. Even if Davis is overrated a bit you still have to get him in the playoffs more than twice in 7 years. That being said, he went out giving the middle finger to the media and the Lakers. Made him look like a boss while his now sympathetic figure will overshadow how bad he was at his job.

spurraider21
02-15-2019, 01:42 PM
ex-spur likely to take over as interim GM :stirpot:

Darth_Pelican
02-15-2019, 02:17 PM
Also, why would they ever let the GM they were about to fire make the biggest move in franchise history?

Exactly

Will Hunting
02-15-2019, 02:20 PM
If Demps could have saved his job by taking the Lakers deal he would have done it. The same offer will be available this summer as well, Demps didn’t cost them anything.

The minute AD demanded a trade he put them in full rebuilding mode and made Demps and Gentry lameducks. There was no way the Pelicans were going to let the same GM and coach lead the rebuilding process after they failed to put a competitive team around AD.

Will Hunting
02-15-2019, 02:23 PM
He was going to be fired regardless. He's a horrible GM tbh. Even if Davis is overrated a bit you still have to get him in the playoffs more than twice in 7 years. That being said, he went out giving the middle finger to the media and the Lakers. Made him look like a boss while his now sympathetic figure will overshadow how bad he was at his job.
He definitely wasn’t a great GM but it would have been really difficult to put a competitive team around AD. The Pelicans were never going to be drawing big name free agents, so he basically had to either draft other stars to put around Davis or have enough assets to trade for one, the problem with both of those routes being that the 2013 - 2016 draft classes all sucked.

140
02-15-2019, 02:26 PM
He was going to be fired regardless.
This. Why are people saying he got fired for not taking the lakers trash offer, or that lebrons piece of shit agent got him fired? :lol If the owners really liked that offer they'd have simply overruled him or fired him before the deadline and made the deal.

Plus now is actually the right time to fire a GM for a team in the Pels situation. No point in waiting til the offseason.

AaronY
02-15-2019, 02:30 PM
He definitely wasn’t a great GM but it would have been really difficult to put a competitive team around AD. The Pelicans were never going to be drawing big name free agents, so he basically had to either draft other stars to put around Davis or have enough assets to trade for one, the problem with both of those routes being that the 2013 - 2016 draft classes all sucked.
Buddy Hield seems like he's very good now based on scoring and shooting stats and he basically punted on him to get 1 year or whatever of cousins. then he let cousins walk for nothing

AaronY
02-15-2019, 02:31 PM
I made he one good draft pick and blew it anyway

phxspurfan
02-15-2019, 02:34 PM
The minute AD demanded a trade he put them in full rebuilding mode and made Demps and Gentry lameducks.

We'll take Gentry as an assistant. He's a good coach who seems to get caught up on the crappiest teams (Phoenix with like 5 point guards, etc)

baseline bum
02-15-2019, 02:37 PM
Buddy Hield seems like he's very good now based on scoring and shooting stats and he basically punted on him to get 1 year or whatever of cousins. then he let cousins walk for nothing

It's not Demps' fault Cousins tore his achilles though. I wouldn't have thrown long term money at him after that either.

AaronY
02-15-2019, 03:04 PM
It's not Demps' fault Cousins tore his achilles though. I wouldn't have thrown long term money at him after that either.
Yeah, cousins wasn't a good fit with Anthony Davis in today's NBA anyway but this is more about that turning one good draft pick into nothing

HarlemHeat37
02-15-2019, 03:04 PM
They were actually starting to play well before Cousins got hurt, would have been interesting..

Demps sucks, but he's had a lot of injuries to deal with over the years, they've rarely been healthy..that Solomon Hill deal is still puzzling, though:lol

Darth_Pelican
02-15-2019, 03:28 PM
They were actually starting to play well before Cousins got hurt, would have been interesting..

Demps sucks, but he's had a lot of injuries to deal with over the years, they've rarely been healthy..that Solomon Hill deal is still puzzling, though:lol

And Omir Asik, and Alexis Ajinca......

Pelicans78
02-15-2019, 03:33 PM
Firing Demps isn’t enough. They need a new President of basketball operations, a VP, GM, assistant GM, Head Coach.

Chillen
02-15-2019, 04:33 PM
I see this as a move to try and keep AD or at least convince him this team will have a bright future and is on the right path with a new GM. They will lay all the problems on the job Demp's did for sure. AD is still likely to be traded this summer but Pelicans will likely give it one last shot, this move signals it. I don't think it matters though Davis wants out.

Demps should have taken that Lakers deal though, I see that as the reason they fired him.

Now AD looks like a team cancer out there.

baseline bum
02-15-2019, 04:51 PM
I see this as a move to try and keep AD or at least convince him this team will have a bright future and is on the right path with a new GM. They will lay all the problems on the job Demp's did for sure. AD is still likely to be traded this summer but Pelicans will likely give it one last shot, this move signals it. I don't think it matters though Davis wants out.

Demps should have taken that Lakers deal though, I see that as the reason they fired him.

Now AD looks like a team cancer out there.

Why should he have taken the Lakers deal right away before hearing Boston's offer? He can get the Lakers trash in the summer too.

CitizenDwayne
02-15-2019, 06:20 PM
I think I heard ownership didn’t want the LA deal. Demps was told not to take it

DMC
02-15-2019, 07:18 PM
The fact that New Orleans has an NBA team is problematic enough. They've always been shit. They go to OKC for a few months and suddenly OKC is a 10x better basketball city than New Orleans.

The NBA needs to re-examine their market locations.

**BUSTA**
02-15-2019, 07:22 PM
He was going to be fired regardless. He's a horrible GM tbh. Even if Davis is overrated a bit you still have to get him in the playoffs more than twice in 7 years. That being said, he went out giving the middle finger to the media and the Lakers. Made him look like a boss while his now sympathetic figure will overshadow how bad he was at his job.

This and also sticking it to the NBA should get him voted Exec Of The YEAR. Should be near unanimous with only Lakers voting against.

Will Hunting
02-15-2019, 07:38 PM
We'll take Gentry as an assistant. He's a good coach who seems to get caught up on the crappiest teams (Phoenix with like 5 point guards, etc)
He hasn’t been good in NO and I’m not sure why. The job he did coaching the 2010 Suns was spectacular.

lefty
02-15-2019, 08:04 PM
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Millennial_Messiah
02-15-2019, 08:51 PM
The fact that New Orleans has an NBA team is problematic enough. They've always been shit. They go to OKC for a few months and suddenly OKC is a 10x better basketball city than New Orleans.

The NBA needs to re-examine their market locations.

they should change them to the seattle sonics honestly.

phxspurfan
02-15-2019, 10:30 PM
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:lol

phxspurfan
02-15-2019, 10:32 PM
they should change them to the seattle sonics honestly.

Or Kansas City, Austin, Vegas, Birmingham, San Diego, B'More...

Millennial_Messiah
02-15-2019, 11:00 PM
Or Kansas City, Austin, Vegas, Birmingham, San Diego, B'More...

KC - Not bad, but a small market, not sure they're ravenous enough to be so strong for 2 teams... they love the Chiefs to death though.

Austin - Bad. Too close to SA and unnecessary to compete with them in what is a smaller market area in the first place. South Texas isn't NYC or LA, for cripes sake. Plus, Austin is a college town, and if they're going to try to replicate OKC (another fairly isolated college town) they should probably go with somewhere like Columbus which has a basketball loving population and no pro sports teams and an enormous college sports base that dominates the market for both basketball and football, similar to OKC.

Vegas - Terrible. I don't think it's a good idea that Vegas has been getting sports teams lately all of a sudden. It's a gimmick place and people don't go there to live and raise a family for the most part. They go for two reasons, well maybe 3, but it's the last place you'd call a *family town*. Plus, it's not really all that huge of a metro area. The people who do live/work there are generally already big fans of other teams, or nonchalant about sports in the first place. Horrible idea.

Birmingham - Are you joking? Alabama is a shithole full of sun baked hicks. The only sport they care about at all is college football, and they're ravenous about it, but that's it. Their college basketball teams are awful. Basketball is seen there as just another sport like tennis or lacrosse. Plus, it'd be a small metro area. Dixieland is an awful place to live. No, no, NO, HELL NO!

San Diego - Would be a good choice for a basketball team, but that team should really be the Clippers moving back there. The Clippers are a good franchise that will always unfortunately be 2nd place in LA to the Lakers due to legacy and history. Sort of like how the Chargers will always be a distant 2nd (and that's generous!) as long as they play in LA. Both the Chargers and Clippers should move back to SD, IMMEDIATELY.

Baltimore - Not bad, there is likely demand due to large black population. However, most of them are likely fans of the Wizards or a bigger name team already. There are definitely worse choices out there. However, DC already has a team and there are quite a few teams already in the area as well.

TheCultOfPersonality
02-16-2019, 04:57 AM
Dell Demps isn't even the worst GM in his own division. Chris Wallace is much worse and is somehow still employed.

R. DeMurre
02-16-2019, 08:40 AM
It's so hard to judge because few of us have any idea of the actual inner workings that occurred in New Orleans, but if the rumors are true that Toronto offered a package centered on Pascal Siakam, then I think it was a big mistake not to take it. Siakam is exactly the kind of young and versatile player that's easy to build around.

In retrospect, it's kind of ironic that New Orleans helped Sacramento turn around their franchise by taking on Cousins and giving them Hield and draft picks. Sacramento is having a better season this year than they ever did with Cousins. At the time, the trade was considered a steal-- turns out it was, but for Sacramento, not New Orleans.

Clipper Nation
02-16-2019, 10:56 AM
San Diego - Would be a good choice for a basketball team, but that team should really be the Clippers moving back there. The Clippers are a good franchise that will always unfortunately be 2nd place in LA to the Lakers due to legacy and history. Sort of like how the Chargers will always be a distant 2nd (and that's generous!) as long as they play in LA. Both the Chargers and Clippers should move back to SD, IMMEDIATELY.
The Clippers are currently 8th on the Forbes valuation list despite not owning our own arena, not even being a priority tenant at Staples, getting a smaller share of suite and club seat profits, etc. Once the new arena in Inglewood gets built, that valuation will skyrocket. Anyone who seriously thinks the Clippers would be better off moving to a smaller market is retarded.

LkrFan
02-16-2019, 01:05 PM
Two fold message:
1) players league. Bend over
2) do what the lakers want you to do.

:lol

Millennial_Messiah
02-16-2019, 03:02 PM
The Clippers are currently 8th on the Forbes valuation list despite not owning our own arena, not even being a priority tenant at Staples, getting a smaller share of suite and club seat profits, etc. Once the new arena in Inglewood gets built, that valuation will skyrocket. Anyone who seriously thinks the Clippers would be better off moving to a smaller market is retarded.

I don't get you. Do you live in LA or SD? Somewhere in between? If not in SD, why did you turn on the Chargers when they moved from SD to LA?