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Big Pimp_21
10-27-2005, 10:44 AM
According to the New York Daily news, the Knicks are trying to trade Malik Rose. Its sad to see such a great guy with so much hustle and work ethic have to move around. I say we trade Rasho for him straight up!
Bruno
10-27-2005, 10:50 AM
I say we trade Rasho for him straight up!

No way, Rasho is great.
Kip Fanatic
10-27-2005, 11:40 AM
How do you know his work ethic is all that? Before he got the huge contract he was different. Since the contract he changed his game.
ducks
10-27-2005, 11:44 AM
old news
T Park
10-27-2005, 12:29 PM
I say we trade Rasho for him straight up!




Why?
texasqb2
10-27-2005, 01:23 PM
guys we're just lucky some of you are not in the front office. You play with your hearts. There's a reason Malik is on the block again, hes undersized player with a big contract. He would not get any minutes on our team.
tekdragon
10-27-2005, 01:48 PM
I'd give up Rasho for Malik





















(and the Knicks' 2006 first-round draft pick - unprotected , of course :))
kskonn
10-27-2005, 02:28 PM
no way you trade Rasho for Malik.

malik is like the ex in a relationship, getting back together might be fun or a little while but in the long run you will regret the decision.
ShoogarBear
10-27-2005, 02:38 PM
How do you know his work ethic is all that? Before he got the huge contract he was different. Since the contract he changed his game.

Hmmm, are you talking about Malik or Rasho?
T Park
10-27-2005, 03:49 PM
Rasho changed his game to the benefit of the team.

Was Rasho considered a hard dunking player before SA???

Link please shoogar.
SenorSpur
10-27-2005, 04:15 PM
Like everyone else, I'd love to have Malik back here. In fact, the numbers may match up well. However, there's an old NBA adage among GMs that you NEVER trade big for small. I would have to give up Rasho only to have Nazr walk after this year and we'd be left with nothing.

Now, if we could persuade the Knicks to package in, say an Antonio Davis, then the Spurs would have to package someone else with Rasho to make the salaries match.

In this case, we'd get back some size - at least temporarily anway.
T Park
10-27-2005, 04:23 PM
I wouldn't mind at all a trade of Malik and Antonio Davis for Rasho and Beno Udrih.


Too bad the salaries dont match.
Marcus Bryant
10-27-2005, 04:26 PM
Again, people, the Spurs have one thing on their mind at the moment: shedding bigman salary. With Oberto at $2.5 mil a season for the next three, Horry sticking around for a couple more and Scola a candidate to join the Spurs next offseason at a relatively cheap NBA price, Radoslav and Nazr don't make a lot of sense to Holt Cat.

If you're mad, well, don't get pissed when someone calls your Lord, your Savior Holt Cat cheap.
T Park
10-27-2005, 04:45 PM
Scola a candidate to join the Spurs next offseason

Scola is never coming to this team.
Rescueone
10-27-2005, 05:25 PM
Scola is never coming to this team.


Say's who?? I didn't hear anything reguarding that! We still have his rights.
ploto
10-27-2005, 05:28 PM
Scola is never coming to this team.

I concur.
SequSpur
10-27-2005, 07:30 PM
Malik sucks thats why.
SPURS IN 06
10-27-2005, 08:24 PM
Scola is never coming to this team.

If Scola does come I will leave this Forum for a year and than come back in a week just like T-PARK I was just kidding what a :idiot :lol :lol :lol :elephant
CharlieMac
10-27-2005, 08:28 PM
I hope Malik doesn't end up in Atlanta.
angel_luv
10-27-2005, 10:49 PM
I thought Malik was a contender to start in New York?

Coach Brown should know Malik is a keeper.
caŽlo
10-27-2005, 11:17 PM
Like everyone else, I'd love to have Malik back here. In fact, the numbers may match up well. However, there's an old NBA adage among GMs that you NEVER trade big for small. I would have to give up Rasho only to have Nazr walk after this year and we'd be left with nothing.

Now, if we could persuade the Knicks to package in, say an Antonio Davis, then the Spurs would have to package someone else with Rasho to make the salaries match.

In this case, we'd get back some size - at least temporarily anway.

good thing i.thomas is ignorant about that adage :)
texasqb2
10-27-2005, 11:40 PM
I thought Malik was a contender to start in New York?

Coach Brown should know Malik is a keeper.

Why would Brown know that Malik is a keeper....reality check Malik wasn't a keeper under Pop, come on now...overpaid/undersized
Sense
10-28-2005, 12:51 AM
I hate malik more than rasho... so lets keep rasho for a better trade :P
Marcus Bryant
10-28-2005, 01:06 AM
The one fact in support of a Radoslav for Rose swap is that Rose makes roughly $650K less than Radoslav. Holt Cat would get the payroll reduction he seeks for this season to perhaps get under the lux tax threshold. Both contracts expire at the end of the 2008-09 season so there wouldn't otherwise be a major change in the current liability to Nesterovic.

Supposedly Thomas was interested in Radoslav, at least earlier this year.
Vashner
10-28-2005, 01:31 AM
Pop don't like Malik.. end of story...

It's not going to happen.
Marcus Bryant
10-28-2005, 01:35 AM
Holt Cat didn't like Rose's contract. If the Spurs could get under the lux tax threshold with such a swap don't be surprised if it goes down.

The Spurs got what they wanted by taking one long term guaranteed deal off the books with the Rose for Mohammed deal.
Vashner
10-28-2005, 01:46 AM
lol who said that? Pop had a problem with Malik. He didn't like the communication. Had nothing to do with Holt other than him getting input from Pop. I have it from a very good source that Pop wanted Malik gone.. the contract was not an issue.
Marcus Bryant
10-28-2005, 01:48 AM
It's always been a love-hate relationship.

Yes, that contract was the issue. Pretty much every Ludden article about the situation from the start of the 2003-04 season made that quite clear.
Bruno
10-28-2005, 03:09 AM
The one fact in support of a Radoslav for Rose swap is that Rose makes roughly $650K less than Radoslav. Holt Cat would get the payroll reduction he seeks for this season to perhaps get under the lux tax threshold. Both contracts expire at the end of the 2008-09 season so there wouldn't otherwise be a major change in the current liability to Nesterovic.

Malik salary is bigger than Rasho ($7M agaist $6.7M), you should add $1M in trade kicker to his salary.
So no way.
Marcus Bryant
10-28-2005, 07:42 AM
So don't trade him again this season after acquiring him. Problem solved.
Bruno
10-28-2005, 07:55 AM
So don't trade him again this season after acquiring him. Problem solved.

No, Trade kicker doesn't work like this.
You get the trade kicker only the first time you are traded and for cap purpose, it is divided between the guaranteed years of the contract.
Malik will receive $6M this year but his salary will be fixed at $7M for Tax computing.
Trading for Malik won't help Spurs to go under the Tax and won't help them to repeat.
Problem solved, this trade make no sense.
ducks
10-28-2005, 08:13 AM
I thought Malik was a contender to start in New York?

Coach Brown should know Malik is a keeper.


davis has beaten out rose already
see article in nba forum
Gino2882
10-28-2005, 11:16 AM
That Malik for Nazr trade looks pretty good right now...
SpursIndonesia
10-28-2005, 10:44 PM
Scola is never coming to this team.
I actually believe the same. The Spurs are a financially conservative team, and Luis's Price is not exactly appealing. Javtoskas actually intrigues me the most.
SequSpur
10-29-2005, 01:05 AM
Malik is a turd.

When are the rest of you idiots going to get that?