View Full Version : Cohen Promises Testimony Willl be Explosive
Spurs Homer
02-28-2019, 09:48 PM
Felix Sater testifying in an open hearing on March 14th. Gonna need some more popcorn
The GOP absolutely will not find anything suspicious or irregular about a convicted Russian mafia criminal who held an office in Trump tower on the 26th floor and who paid ZERO rent on that office. They will not find anything wrong or irregular about his office being right next door to Trumps office on that 26th floor.
The GOP will not even ask why Trump, when asked about Sater responded this way;
"I am not sure - if he was in this room today - that I would even know what he looks like?"
The GOP might just ask him if he voted for Hillary.
Pavlov
02-28-2019, 09:48 PM
poor fella walked himself into a pizza restaurant basement with no exit
Will Hunting
02-28-2019, 09:49 PM
Felix Sater testifying in an open hearing on March 14th. Gonna need some more popcorn
I'm sure there will be more GOP saber rattling about how "WE CAN'T TRUST THE TESTIMONY OF A MAN OF SUCH POOR CHARACTER!!!" while they remain quiet about the fact Trump seems to be surrounded by these guys with "poor character".
Spurs Homer
02-28-2019, 09:51 PM
poor fella walked himself into room with no exit
Did you read stone's indictment?
#11
#12
#13
Tells you that Stone was informing the Trump team about everything Wikileaks was doing, when the stolen emails were coming out and reporting back to Trump team when the next batch was coming.
Are you able to read?
Why do you continue to pump out your bullshit?
The GOP absolutely will not find anything suspicious or irregular about a convicted Russian mafia criminal who held an office in Trump tower on the 26th floor and who paid ZERO rent on that office. They will not find anything wrong or irregular about his office being right next door to Trumps office on that 26th floor.
The GOP will not even ask why Trump, when asked about Sater responded this way;
"I am not sure - if he was in this room today - that I would even know what he looks like?"
The GOP might just ask him if he voted for Hillary.
Or partied in a pool with Bill
Did you read stone's indictment?
#11
#12
#13
Tells you that Stone was informing the Trump team about everything Wikileaks was doing, when the stolen emails were coming out and reporting back to Trump team when the next batch was coming.
Are you able to read?
Why do you continue to pump out your bullshit?
Yes I did read the indictment. Stone didn’t know anything about the Wikileaks releases. If you’d read Corsi’s statement of offense Mueller drafted I wouldn’t have to keep repeating myself.
Spurs Homer
02-28-2019, 09:53 PM
Or partied in a pool with Bill
Great - ask everything - go where the evidence leads you - I got no problem with that -
unlike you
Great - ask everything - go where the evidence leads you - I got no problem with that -
unlike you
I’ve said from the start to go where ever the evidence leads. But you already knew that. You’ve been here for 2 years :lol
Spurs Homer
02-28-2019, 09:57 PM
Yes I did read the indictment. Stone didn’t know anything about the Wikileaks releases. If you’d read Corsi’s statement of offense Mueller drafted I wouldn’t have to keep repeating myself.
GTFO
read it again
Mueller is pointing out what Stone did. He talked to the guy in the Ecuadorian embassy.
He called trump team -and told them about incoming stolen emails.
The emails were stolen and released and
A high level Trump official was ORDERED to call Stone again and inquire about the NEXT batch.
What the fuck does that mean to your CULT eyes?
Stone was deep in the conspiracy and Mueller has him.
READ THE FUCKING DOCUMENT.
#11,12,13
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5694704-Stone-Indictment-012419.html#document/p1
Will Hunting
02-28-2019, 09:57 PM
This thread has started to smell like pizza.
Cuppycake Gumdrop
02-28-2019, 10:03 PM
This thread has started to smell like pizza.
https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/oGeE4O_dm5zHRP9ptE0LNB5GjRA/fit-in/1200x630/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-:fill-!white!-/2015/05/19/878/n/3019466/ae44def650f8e777_tumblr_mr60h5icTn1s6sejso1_500/i/Pizza-even-makes-crappy-songs-sound-better.gif
GTFO
read it again
Mueller is pointing out what Stone did. He talked to the guy in the Ecuadorian embassy.
He called trump team -and told them about incoming stolen emails.
The emails were stolen and released and
A high level Trump official was ORDERED to call Stone again and inquire about the NEXT batch.
What the fuck does that mean to your CULT eyes?
Stone was deep in the conspiracy and Mueller has him.
READ THE FUCKING DOCUMENT.
#11,12,13
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5694704-Stone-Indictment-012419.html#document/p1
Mueller never once claimed Stone talked to Assange :lol
Person 1 is Jerome Corsi, who Mueller made admit in his statement of offense that he was lying to Stone about having a back channel with Wikileaks.
Your basic lack of understanding and retarded takes are amusing, I’ll give you that.
Spurs Homer
02-28-2019, 10:06 PM
Mueller never once claimed Stone talked to Assange :lol
Person 1 is Jerome Corsi, who Mueller made admit in his statement of offense that he was lying to Stone about having a back channel with Wikileaks.
Your basic lack of understanding and retarded takes are amusing, I’ll give you that.
Obviously you are unable to read the document.
Wasting my time.
Obviously you are unable to read the document.
Wasting my time.
Agreed. You waste a lot of time here spouting shit you clearly don’t understand.
Will Hunting
02-28-2019, 10:09 PM
PIZZA PIZZA PIZZA PIZZA PIZZA!!!
Obviously you are unable to read the document.
Wasting my time.
I’ll make it really simple for you. Read the last two sentences of the statement of offense.
https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/politics/draft-jerome-corsi-statement-of-offense/3324/
Was Corsi lying to Stone about having a back channel to Wikileaks? Yes or no.
Pavlov
02-28-2019, 10:14 PM
so edgySorry, man -- anyone who believed pizzagate as hard as you wears the edgelord crown, your majesty.
Sorry, man -- anyone who believed pizzagate as hard as you wears the edgelord crown, your majesty.
I normally don’t like to derail threads when you wave the white flag but since djohn and Spurs Homer won’t answer any of my questions I’ll entertain this for a bit. What did I believe Pavlov?
Felix Sater testifying in an open hearing on March 14th. Gonna need some more popcornIt won’t go the way you’re hoping
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Chris
02-28-2019, 11:30 PM
He "gave" the money to HIS charity (the one with his name on it, that he was CEO of) (for a tax write off) to buy a painting. That painting ended up in his office.
Self-dealing is a HUGE no-no and a clear tax law violation. You con't lie to the IRS about this kind of thing, and this was not the only instance.
This is why the state of new York is up his ass.
As for "stormfront"... jesus dude google that shit.
He gave lots of money to charity.
/end
Chris
02-28-2019, 11:31 PM
Saw the memo. Weak sauce.
Nothingburger right?
Cuppycake Gumdrop
02-28-2019, 11:32 PM
He took lots of money from charity.
/end
Fixed
ElNono
02-28-2019, 11:48 PM
I'm sure there will be more GOP saber rattling about how "WE CAN'T TRUST THE TESTIMONY OF A MAN OF SUCH POOR CHARACTER!!!" while they remain quiet about the fact Trump seems to be surrounded by these guys with "poor character".
:lol this was his personal attorney for how many years?
At the very least it should raise questions about his competency hiring people
spurraider21
03-01-2019, 12:46 AM
https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/oGeE4O_dm5zHRP9ptE0LNB5GjRA/fit-in/1200x630/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-:fill-!white!-/2015/05/19/878/n/3019466/ae44def650f8e777_tumblr_mr60h5icTn1s6sejso1_500/i/Pizza-even-makes-crappy-songs-sound-better.gif
:lmao
djohn2oo8
03-01-2019, 01:31 AM
Sure thing. As soon as you show me the quote where you claimed I said Mueller was not investigating collusion.
Guess Mueller never said what you claimed
djohn2oo8
03-01-2019, 01:34 AM
I'm sure there will be more GOP saber rattling about how "WE CAN'T TRUST THE TESTIMONY OF A MAN OF SUCH POOR CHARACTER!!!" while they remain quiet about the fact Trump seems to be surrounded by these guys with "poor character".
Oh of course most definitely. At the same time, their testimony is setting up perfectly for Mueller’s report to roll in
Do you even know where the "Star of David" comes from goyim?
I know where the brown star of David comes from.
Pavlov
03-01-2019, 02:19 AM
I normally don’t like to derail threads when you wave the white flag but since djohn and Spurs Homer won’t answer any of my questions I’ll entertain this for a bit. What did I believe Pavlov?You believed in pizzagate basement and Q chillin' outside Air Force One and misslecopter and Cat Stevens mind control and Eric Bravermann murder and Susan Rice indictment and Siiiiiiiilllllllllllsssssssssbbbbbbyyyyyyyyyyy.
RandomGuy
03-01-2019, 08:11 AM
He gave lots of money to charity.
/end
None of it was charity, goober, that is the point. It was merely a basket of expenses for his business that were fraudulently classified as charity.
It was cheap toilet paper that fell apart when subjected to the probing finger of justice for an epic poke through.
Trump Foundation agrees to dissolve under court supervision
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/politics/trump-foundation-dissolve/index.html
Looks like you got something on your finger dude... after you are done sniffing it, be sure to wash your hands. or don't, I hear soap is a liberal conspiracy.
RandomGuy
03-01-2019, 08:15 AM
It won’t go the way you’re hoping
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I'm sure they will testify about Susan Rice and Podesta... and CLINTON (dramatic music, DUN DUN DUN) :rollin
Trill Clinton
03-01-2019, 08:31 AM
https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1101106675149402112?s=19
KenMcCoy
03-01-2019, 09:10 AM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2019/02/28/michael-cohen-explains-the-real-reason-trump-is-hiding-his-tax-returns/#122b63bcad85
FANTASTIC tax planning. Hopefully their tax team got some good bonuses.
Winehole23
03-01-2019, 09:34 AM
lol Chris apologizing for DJT's slush fund disguised as a charity.
Will Hunting
03-01-2019, 09:38 AM
https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1101106675149402112?s=19
:lmao anyone believing this guy is something other than your run-of-the-mill racist Southern hillbilly
Spurs Homer
03-01-2019, 09:57 AM
:lmao anyone believing this guy is something other than your run-of-the-mill racist Southern hillbilly
He was ELECTED on his birtherism/racism -
and yesterday - he was crying like an 8 year old girl and clutching his pearls at being called a racist!
This is now 2 videos that have resurfaced of him -"sending Obama back to Kenya"
RandomGuy
03-01-2019, 08:22 PM
I normally don’t like to derail threads when you wave the white flag but since djohn and Spurs Homer won’t answer any of my questions I’ll entertain this for a bit. What did I believe Pavlov?
INSURANCE FRAUD
Cohen also alleged that Trump made false claims to insurance companies by inflating the size of his assets, a move that Cohen said would have allowed him to reduce his premiums.
“To your knowledge, did the president ever provide inflated assets to an insurance company?,” asked Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a Democrat from New York.
“Yes,” Cohen answered.
“Insurance fraud is submitting a written statement that contains materially false information or conceals information in order to get something of value, and that’s exactly that Cohen is alleging happened here,” said Duncan Levin a former federal prosecutor who specializes in financial crime.
“What he’s laying out is the basis of a bread-and-butter criminal case, the kind that’s prosecuted every single day in state courts and federal courts,” Levin said.
Insurance Fraud is another one of those, less than sexy things that Cohen implicated his client for.
"material misstatements" are generally worked into the language of fraud statutes in this country.
koriwhat
03-01-2019, 08:28 PM
https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1101106675149402112?s=19
wow big fucking deal...
a dude who believes another dude isn't a citizen of the USA wants to deport a non citizen... but but racism!
koriwhat
03-02-2019, 09:21 PM
finally getting a chance to watch this bs and 2 hrs in it is bs. gotta love how old noodle head shultz is so hard up to get cohen to claim russia hacked HRC's server when we all know the truth already. what's that stupid bitch even doing in our gov't still? oh and cummings is a dipshit who shouldn't be chairman. what a crock of shit this is turning out to be.
djohn2oo8
03-03-2019, 12:09 PM
wow big fucking deal...
a dude who believes another dude isn't a citizen of the USA wants to deport a non citizen... but but racism!
Who is the non citizen?
koriwhat
03-03-2019, 02:27 PM
Who is the non citizen?
you're a retard with 0 reading comprehension.
RandomGuy
03-03-2019, 02:28 PM
Hey, Louisiana Dipsh*t Congressman Idiot! We Found Michael Cohen's Boxes!
https://assets.rbl.ms/19241856/1200x800.png
Hands down, our favorite part of the marathon Michael Cohen hearing Wednesday, aside from the times Cohen showed everybody evidence of Donald Trump's many criminal acts, was when GOP Rep. Clay Higgins of the great state of LOO-ZANER asked his questions. For Wonkette, there are few things better than discovering a new hayseed dumbshit Louie Gohmert-style Republican congressman, and Higgins? He is ... he is WOW.
Dressed in a vest that screamed, "I am your youth pastor, and you can trust me. Now just shut the door and tell me what's going on at home, on my penis," Higgins -- a huge bigot and former cop, and maybe a very dirty one at that! -- was pretty sure he was gonna GITCHA Michael Cohen, because Cohen brought evidence against Trump that he found in some boxes. What follows is a dramatic reading of the man formerly known as the "Cajun John Wayne," asking Cohen questions.
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https://www.wonkette.com/clay-higgins
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The boxes this guy is talking about were siezed and reviewed by the FBI and returned to Cohen. Cohen said he went through everything that was returned to him at the beginning of the hearing.
koriwhat
03-03-2019, 02:32 PM
this is such a shit show and cohen caught lying again especially about foreign contracts... see ya later slime ball and hope you get your ass ripped in two by bubba.
Thanos
03-03-2019, 02:32 PM
you're a retard with 0 reading comprehension.
Among all your retarded takes, are you also a birther? :lmao
Thanos
03-03-2019, 02:34 PM
this is such a shit show and cohen caught lying again especially about foreign contracts... see ya later slime ball and hope you get your ass ripped in two by bubba.
:lmao falling for that bullshit. It’s already been proven that the Republican questioning him lied about the wording on that form.
koriwhat
03-03-2019, 02:37 PM
Among all your retarded takes, are you also a birther? :lmao
i'm such a birther i voted for obama twice. you're such a retard you'll believe all the other faggots like yourself here and spew their same lies to try and dress yourself up as if you're anything but the bitch that you are.
:lmao falling for that bullshit. It’s already been proven that the Republican questioning him lied about the wording on that form.
i'm watching it rn so i have yet to read any revelations from the hearing as of rn. get off your high horse.
Thanos
03-03-2019, 02:44 PM
i'm such a birther i voted for obama twice. you're such a retard you'll believe all the other faggots like yourself here and spew their same lies to try and dress yourself up as if you're anything but the bitch that you are.
You’re the one who called Obama a non-citizen, dipshit :lmao
koriwhat
03-03-2019, 02:46 PM
You’re the one who called Obama a non-citizen, dipshit :lmao
did i? lol you're the one putting words in my mouth; however, i know what you're speaking about. i laid out a scenario as an explanation and you ran with the narrative that i'm a birther. you're just a dumbass is all.
Thanos
03-03-2019, 02:48 PM
did i? lol you're the one putting words in my mouth; however, i know what you're speaking about. i laid out a scenario as an explanation and you ran with the narrative that i'm a birther. you're just a dumbass is all.
The word “non citizen” wasn’t in that video, just in your defense of a racist Republican. Instead of calling out a Republican congressman for being a birther, you gave excuses for why he isn’t racist :lmao you’re a birther by association.
koriwhat
03-03-2019, 02:51 PM
The word “non citizen” wasn’t in that video, just in your defense of a racist Republican. Instead of calling out a Republican congressman for being a birther, you gave excuses for why he isn’t racist :lmao you’re a birther by association.
if he doesn't believe obama is a citizen then how's obama a citizen in his eyes? god damn you trolls just keep on reaching when there's nothing there to grasp. yall are a pathetic bunch indeed.
weak men like you are fucking sad and everywhere these days.
Republican
03-03-2019, 02:52 PM
this is such a shit show and cohen caught lying again especially about foreign contracts... see ya later slime ball and hope you get your ass ripped in two by bubba.
Hopefully Jim Jordan keeps dominating these democuck faggot fuckfaces and we see the full power of the glorious Republican Party on display! Sieg heil!
koriwhat
03-03-2019, 02:53 PM
none of you trolls are remotely funny. what's funny is yall think yall are hilarious with 0 comedic talent.
Thanos
03-03-2019, 02:54 PM
if he doesn't believe obama is a citizen then how's obama a citizen in his eyes? god damn you trolls just keep on reaching when there's nothing there to grasp. yall are a pathetic bunch indeed.
weak men like you are fucking sad and everywhere these days.
And you defended a birther :lmao you couldn’t just say “the Republican is wrong in this instance” :lmao such a partisan dumbass
koriwhat
03-03-2019, 02:57 PM
And you defended a birther :lmao you couldn’t just say “the Republican is wrong in this instance” :lmao such a partisan dumbass
the narrative you concocted is such bullshit and you know it. i watched the whole video and laid out that scenario that matched the video narrative; you're just hard up to see racism in every nook and cranny you see because you're a weak fuck. you having to concoct a bs narrative about me is proof of how weak you truly are.
k0riwhat’s dad
03-03-2019, 02:59 PM
none of you trolls are remotely funny. what's funny is yall think yall are hilarious with 0 comedic talent.
Hey slugger! I see you vote Republican, just like your old man! I’m proud of you, champ. Any day now we’re gonna get some of that trickle down money. Been waiting since Reagan was in office, but I know it’s coming. When that moolah trickles down to us, I promise to take you and your momma out of that single wide and into a nice fancy double wide. Maybe get an above ground pool, too! But for now, I need 50 bucks for some smokes and some medicine for my bad back, can you help me out?
koriwhat
03-03-2019, 03:06 PM
^^ fall on deaf ears
Hey slugger! I see you vote Republican, just like your old man! I’m proud of you, champ. Any day now we’re gonna get some of that trickle down money. Been waiting since Reagan was in office, but I know it’s coming. When that moolah trickles down to us, I promise to take you and your momma out of that single wide and into a nice fancy double wide. Maybe get an above ground pool, too! But for now, I need 50 bucks for some smokes and some medicine for my bad back, can you help me out?
:lol
This is one of the best trolls on the site at the moment. Kudos to whoever is running it
Spurs Homer
03-03-2019, 05:06 PM
:lmao:lmao "above-ground pool!"
djohn2oo8
03-03-2019, 05:17 PM
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lol Cohen telling all to them niggas
Spurs Homer
03-03-2019, 05:38 PM
1102331353738162176
lol Cohen telling all to them niggas
Just finished reading the McCabe book....little nugget towards the end;
After the Comey firing, Rosenstein gave a copy of Trumps memo regarding the firing of Comey -to McCabe
Trump wrote out his reasons for firing Comey - and it was revealed (not in the book - but in one of McCabes's TV interviews this past week) - that one of the reasons Trump stated for firing Comey was -
because Comey had not fired McCabe yet.
Back to the book...
Towards the end McCabe goes home after it had been announced that a special counsel had been appointed...
he went home and he
put the Trump memo - in his safe.
I am pretty sure it ended up in Mueller's possession. :lmao
djohn2oo8
03-03-2019, 05:41 PM
1102335356945391617
:lmao
RandomGuy
03-03-2019, 08:02 PM
At the end of the day:
This was the FIRST hearing where some pointed questions are going to be leveled at Trump confidantes.
Trump Jr., Jared, Ivanka, are all going to get called up in front of these hearings, and are going to start going on the record as pleading the fifth.
A steady stream of people with the last name "Trump" refusing to answer questions day in day out, will take the oxygen from the Trump twitter dumpster fire.
Nbadan
03-04-2019, 01:37 AM
At the end of the day:
This was the FIRST hearing where some pointed questions are going to be leveled at Trump confidantes.
Trump Jr., Jared, Ivanka, are all going to get called up in front of these hearings, and are going to start going on the record as pleading the fifth.
A steady stream of people with the last name "Trump" refusing to answer questions day in day out, will take the oxygen from the Trump twitter dumpster fire.
Yeah I don't think that is gonna be the turning point for Republicans.
Spurtacular
03-04-2019, 01:42 AM
:lmao My favorite part was when the congressman congratulated Cohen on being the first to testify to congress after being convicted of lying to congress, and Cohen said "thank you."
In but one post by me in this thread...
/THREAD
Spurs Homer
03-04-2019, 10:20 AM
:lmao My favorite part was when the congressman congratulated Cohen on being the first to testify to congress after being convicted of lying to congress, and Cohen said "thank you."
In but one post by me in this thread...
/THREAD
Nah -
when Cohen looked right at jordan -
and
told him
"i am responsible for your silliness - I was where you are now - protecting trump blindly - and you will end up exactly where I am now"
:lmao
RandomGuy
03-04-2019, 01:58 PM
Yeah I don't think that is gonna be the turning point for Republicans.
It won't cause the Trump party to change their minds. They are in too deep into the cult of personality.
RandomGuy
03-04-2019, 01:59 PM
:lmao My favorite part was when the congressman congratulated Cohen on being the first to testify to congress after being convicted of lying to congress, and Cohen said "thank you."
In but one post by me in this thread...
/THREAD
Democrats announce a broad probe into President Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VzPNyUPdg
/beginning
koriwhat
03-04-2019, 03:42 PM
:lol
This is one of the best trolls on the site at the moment. Kudos to whoever is running it
:lol
This is one of the biggest bitches on the site at the moment. Kudos to bd24 for being the dumb faggot that he is
Spurtacular
03-04-2019, 04:39 PM
Nah -
when Cohen looked right at jordan -
and
told him
"i am responsible for your silliness - I was where you are now - protecting trump blindly - and you will end up exactly where I am now"
:lmao
As globalist shills and de facto democrats? :lmao
/THREAD
:lol
This is one of the biggest bitches on the site at the moment. Kudos to bd24 for being the dumb faggot that he is
Yet you care so deeply about me that you spent enough time to try and meet up with me in real life :lol
djohn2oo8
03-04-2019, 11:36 PM
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djohn2oo8
03-04-2019, 11:37 PM
:lol Trump
Chucho
03-04-2019, 11:40 PM
:lol
This is one of the best trolls on the site at the moment. Kudos to whoever is running it
LOL, you really don't know?
LOL, you really don't know?
I have a few good guesses, but don’t know for sure tbh
Spurs Homer
03-05-2019, 09:37 AM
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More corroboration....
Cohen's sworn testimony mentioned the conversation in the oval office...trump assured him that (2) payments would be coming and were just going "through the white house system" after being Fed-exed....
the phony "retainer arrangement" that Weisselberg set up with trumps blessing - consisted of several 35k pymts - and trump was explaining - I mean "president Trump was explaining - from the oval office" that (2) checks would be there any day now...
On Feb 14th - the (1) check for 70k arrived and is the one being shown here.
Add to Julie-yanni's statements and weisselbergs account - (if he already gave one to SDNY???) and trumps multiple denials/responses/lies -
and it all just adds to trumps crimes.
More corroboration....
Cohen's sworn testimony mentioned the conversation in the oval office...trump assured him that (2) payments would be coming and were just going "through the white house system" after being Fed-exed....
the phony "retainer arrangement" that Weisselberg set up with trumps blessing - consisted of several 35k pymts - and trump was explaining - I mean "president Trump was explaining - from the oval office" that (2) checks would be there any day now...
On Feb 14th - the (1) check for 70k arrived and is the one being shown here.
Add to Julie-yanni's statements and weisselbergs account - (if he already gave one to SDNY???) and trumps multiple denials/responses/lies -
and it all just adds to trumps crimes.
Stopped reading after the bolded part. Why you keep thinking that's proof of anything I have no idea.
At the end of the day:
This was the FIRST hearing where some pointed questions are going to be leveled at Trump confidantes.
Trump Jr., Jared, Ivanka, are all going to get called up in front of these hearings, and are going to start going on the record as pleading the fifth.
A steady stream of people with the last name "Trump" refusing to answer questions day in day out, will take the oxygen from the Trump twitter dumpster fire.
Wishcasting is as useless in a discussion as assuming a convicted perjurer's testimony is the same as proof.
There might be something here, but the way you folks go about discussing it would never lead anyone to believe you.
Spurs Homer
03-05-2019, 11:36 AM
Stopped reading after the bolded part. Why you keep thinking that's proof of anything I have no idea.
You have no idea how evidence or testimony works - at all.
Like I said to you before -
in thousands of cases in the USA every day in court rooms everywhere-
testimony is heard. Criminals, liars,rapists,cops,teachers,nuns,scumbags, etc...
The totality of the circumstances and the totality of evidence is weighed carefully by judges and juries - and although this was not a court legal hearing - the same rules apply.
Have you never heard of the mafia guys who testified before Congress? It happened in our history.
It led to RICO laws - which will lead directly to Trump being prosecuted at the SDNY.
Did that Congress throw 100% of Valachi's testimony?
No.
It led to bills to prosecute mafia criminals.
Of course - when your only object is to promote the FOX news agenda and defend the criminal in chief - this is exactly what you would say.
The second alleged self proclaimed native american here that protects the white supremacist traitor president.
Every testimony is weighed carefully - and there could be truth mixed in with non-truths -
Your cult leader claims that Cohen told the truth about "collusion" - do you agree with your hero - or did you just discount every word out of trumps mouth after "cohen's testimony?"
koriwhat
03-05-2019, 12:01 PM
Yet you care so deeply about me that you spent enough time to try and meet up with me in real life :lol
You spinning this as if i care oh so much about you is comical. This tactic isn't going to erase the fact that you're bitchmade you bitchass! Dispute that timestamped photo already you big talker.
Blake
03-05-2019, 12:21 PM
You spinning this as if i care oh so much about you is comical. This tactic isn't going to erase the fact that you're bitchmade you bitchass! Dispute that timestamped photo already you big talker.
THE TEN PAGES I'VE SPENT DEFENDING MYSELF PROVES I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR TACTICS YOU BITCH MADE BITCH, BITCH. IT'S COMICAL!!!!!
Donnie Nelson
03-05-2019, 12:23 PM
THE TEN PAGES I'VE SPENT DEFENDING MYSELF PROVES I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR TACTICS YOU BITCH MADE BITCH, BITCH. IT'S COMICAL!!!!!
:lmao
You spinning this as if i care oh so much about you is comical. This tactic isn't going to erase the fact that you're bitchmade you bitchass! Dispute that timestamped photo already you big talker.
You do care oh so much about me though.
why are you so insecure that you felt you needed to prove yourself to a forum full of strangers?
koriwhat
03-05-2019, 01:31 PM
You do care oh so much about me though.
why are you so insecure that you felt you needed to prove yourself to a forum full of strangers?
Nah just shining a light on your bitchass is all. Going to finally tell the truth about how much of a bitch you truly are or you going to keep on pretending you pretender? Lmao ya bitch!
Nah just shining a light on your bitchass is all. Going to finally tell the truth about how much of a bitch you truly are or you going to keep on pretending you pretender? Lmao ya bitch!
So you care what other posters on the board think of me?
therefore by extension you do care oh so much about me
koriwhat
03-05-2019, 01:35 PM
btw bd24 we can play the insecure game if you'd like... why are you so insecure that you prop yourself up to nobodies with your fairy-tales, keep on lying, follow me around, and now try your shit schtick? The type of dude you are is exactly the weak pos i hope to never be!
koriwhat
03-05-2019, 01:36 PM
So you care what other posters on the board think of me?
therefore by extension you do care oh so much about me
Nah, i just want others to see what a bitch truly looks like and you embody just that ya bitch!
koriwhat
03-05-2019, 01:37 PM
When are you and your BF going to dispute that timestamped photo?
:lmao
Nah, i just want others to see what a bitch truly looks like and you embody just that ya bitch!
So you care what others think about me.
If you don’t care what people on this board think, why do you care what they think about me?
CosmicCowboy
03-05-2019, 02:00 PM
Sometimes I think they used lead based ink on Koriwhat's tats.
SpursforSix
03-05-2019, 02:42 PM
Sometimes I think they used lead based ink on Koriwhat's tats.
It's very possible. Tattoo ink often contains heavy metals such as lead, antimony, beryllium, chromium, cobalt, nickel, and arsenic
Trill Clinton
03-05-2019, 03:21 PM
Hey slugger! I see you vote Republican, just like your old man! I’m proud of you, champ. Any day now we’re gonna get some of that trickle down money. Been waiting since Reagan was in office, but I know it’s coming. When that moolah trickles down to us, I promise to take you and your momma out of that single wide and into a nice fancy double wide. Maybe get an above ground pool, too! But for now, I need 50 bucks for some smokes and some medicine for my bad back, can you help me out?
Lmaooo
koriwhat
03-05-2019, 03:39 PM
So you care what others think about me.
If you don’t care what people on this board think, why do you care what they think about me?
No one cares about a BITCH like you tbh. It's fun exposing you for exactly who you are and what you are. You weren't fooling anyone.
koriwhat
03-05-2019, 03:40 PM
Lmaooo
My father has been dead over 2 yrs now :tu
koriwhat
03-05-2019, 03:41 PM
It's very possible. Tattoo ink often contains heavy metals such as lead, antimony, beryllium, chromium, cobalt, nickel, and arsenic
Thats true about heavy metals and plastics though lead isn't a factor these days and i love powder pigments vs predispersed but all yall got is google and no real knowledge!
koriwhat
03-05-2019, 03:48 PM
Apparently not. He just left for smokes and never came back.
Nah he def died of a heart attack 2 decembers ago a week apart from his mother.
All the soldiers i have as clients and that i know don't act like you. Let me guess, AWOL. Or am i getting you confused with that other queer spurshomer?
Sometimes I think they used lead based ink on Koriwhat's tats.
Even CC gets in on bashing this faggot :lol
SpursforSix
03-05-2019, 04:52 PM
Thats true about heavy metals and plastics though lead isn't a factor these days and i love powder pigments vs predispersed but all yall got is google and no real knowledge!
Are you saying that there is no lead in any tattoo ink? What's your source?
SpursforSix
03-05-2019, 04:56 PM
Wow...the more I read about the toxins in tattoo ink, the more it seems like there's a huge voluntary trial being done by human Americans. Several articles reference the tattoo toxins being found in the lymph nodes.
Exposure to these metals and toxins can place an extreme burden on the liver and the other detox organs. Studies show that the polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons have been found stored in the lymph nodes (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3966813/) of tattooed people causing them to actually turn black. Many of the heavy metals (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4427717/), like lead and mercury, are also considered to be neurotoxins that can affect cognitive function and cause brain fog, fatigue, and many other symptoms. While the damage of these toxins individually to our health is well-studied, the research on the long-term effects of tattoos is still in its infancy.
However, experts have recently started to suggest that problems can result from the actual inks used, and their ingredients. A recent report (https://ec.europa.eu/jrc/en/publication/eur-scientific-and-technical-research-reports/safety-tattoos-and-permanent-make-final-report) in Europe urged for a review of tattoo inks, many of which are imported from the US. A 2017 FDA consumer update (https://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm048919.htm) also questions the safety of tattoo inks and pigments, confirming ongoing research into their toxicity.
Let's start by saying that ink poisoning is not about infection. It isn’t a matter of dirty needles or other pieces of equipment which have not been sterilized. It’s about some of the components of the ink itself, which you wouldn’t normally dream of putting in your body.
Many ardent tattoo supporters argue it’s impossible to be poisoned by tattoo ink, as it never fully reaches the bloodstream. However, research from the European synchrotron radiation facility (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-11721-z) found that toxic elements in tattoo ink can leech onto lymph nodes.
Contaminants, like nickel, chromium, manganese, cobalt or lead, sometimes found in tattoo ink, can create oxidative stress, which causes inflammation. These toxic metals will damage your cells and may eventually cause cancer. In 2005, a judge ruled that two major tattoo ink manufacturers’ products should carry warning labels, under California’s Proposition 65 (https://www.medpagetoday.com/dermatology/generaldermatology/1785).
Spurs Homer
03-05-2019, 05:15 PM
Yeah im not brainwashed like that. And you’re calling them clients now?
Do they lie on their stomachs and let you work on them too? Or is that a special you give your boyfriend, and pretend there is tattooing happpening at the same time?
:lmao:lmao
"thug life"
You have no idea how evidence or testimony works - at all.
Like I said to you before -
in thousands of cases in the USA every day in court rooms everywhere-
testimony is heard. Criminals, liars,rapists,cops,teachers,nuns,scumbags, etc...
The totality of the circumstances and the totality of evidence is weighed carefully by judges and juries - and although this was not a court legal hearing - the same rules apply.
Have you never heard of the mafia guys who testified before Congress? It happened in our history.
It led to RICO laws - which will lead directly to Trump being prosecuted at the SDNY.
Did that Congress throw 100% of Valachi's testimony?
No.
It led to bills to prosecute mafia criminals.
Of course - when your only object is to promote the FOX news agenda and defend the criminal in chief - this is exactly what you would say.
The second alleged self proclaimed native american here that protects the white supremacist traitor president.
Every testimony is weighed carefully - and there could be truth mixed in with non-truths -
Your cult leader claims that Cohen told the truth about "collusion" - do you agree with your hero - or did you just discount every word out of trumps mouth after "cohen's testimony?"
You still have no idea what constitutes evidence. Testimony isn't evidence, especially from a convicted perjurer to the same group he already lied to before. Testimony is just hearsay. There's a difference between an eye witness who can place someone at a scene, or offer an alibi for someone, and someone who just makes allegations about someone else. Accusations under oath are only good for raising suspicions. They aren't proof of anything. You keep acting like they are, and then you insert your wishcasting prognostication and call the case closed.
You're an ass clown.
Spurs Homer
03-05-2019, 05:47 PM
You still have no idea what constitutes evidence. Testimony isn't evidence, especially from a convicted perjurer to the same group he already lied to before. Testimony is just hearsay. There's a difference between an eye witness who can place someone at a scene, or offer an alibi for someone, and someone who just makes allegations about someone else. Accusations under oath are only good for raising suspicions. They aren't proof of anything. You keep acting like they are, and then you insert your wishcasting prognostication and call the case closed.
You're an ass clown.
I think you are misinformed but think that you KNOW more about these things.
I don't claim to be a law expert - so I won't waste my time or yours.
Testimony can certainly be combined with other evidence and can , in fact, be used as evidence.
Testimony can be a piece of evidence in a criminal case.
Someone can lie and perjure themselves also - but a jury or judge can decide that a witness testimony is acceptable evidence.
Happens every day.
RandomGuy
03-05-2019, 06:44 PM
Wishcasting is as useless in a discussion as assuming a convicted perjurer's testimony is the same as proof.
There might be something here, but the way you folks go about discussing it would never lead anyone to believe you.
Cummings said as much answering a question, and I have little doubt that the Trump kids would be advised to plead the 5th for just about any question posed to them.
Most members of the Trump cult will not be dissuaded, sure. If that is what you mean by "anyone".
As for the people in the middle, whatever "us folks" say has a mirror image for the apologists on the right screaming about witch hunts.
I think you are misinformed but think that you KNOW more about these things.
I don't claim to be a law expert - so I won't waste my time or yours.
Testimony can certainly be combined with other evidence and can , in fact, be used as evidence.
Testimony can be a piece of evidence in a criminal case.
Someone can lie and perjure themselves also - but a jury or judge can decide that a witness testimony is acceptable evidence.
Happens every day.
Well no fucking shit, welcome to reality. I've been telling you that for how long now? And still you keep insisting that allegation is evidence. It's not.
Cummings said as much answering a question, and I have little doubt that the Trump kids would be advised to plead the 5th for just about any question posed to them.
Most members of the Trump cult will not be dissuaded, sure. If that is what you mean by "anyone".
As for the people in the middle, whatever "us folks" say has a mirror image for the apologists on the right screaming about witch hunts.
Useless.
koriwhat
03-05-2019, 07:58 PM
Yeah im not brainwashed like that. And you’re calling them clients now?
Do they lie on their stomachs and let you work on them too? Or is that a special you give your boyfriend, and pretend there is tattooing happpening at the same time?
Of course they're clients of mine and a few are close friends. Still none are like you which has me scratching my head...
Of course they're clients of mine and a few are close friends. Still none are like you which has me scratching my head...
You wouldn't have enough ink to tattoo that fat bastard.
koriwhat
03-05-2019, 08:43 PM
You wouldn't have enough ink to tattoo that fat bastard.
Lol
Spurs Homer
03-05-2019, 09:19 PM
Well no fucking shit, welcome to reality. I've been telling you that for how long now? And still you keep insisting that allegation is evidence. It's not.
What?
When did I say that mere allegation is evidence?
RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 07:32 AM
Sometimes I think they used lead based ink on Koriwhat's tats.
:lol
RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 07:40 AM
Useless.
Trump's kids will be hauled in front of House hearings. They will be pleading the 5th at some point.
This testimony will sink into the collective consciousness, and be turned into a "rot at the top" narrative, with the Trump administration as the rot.
What worries me though, is that this group of criminals isn't smart enough to discourage violence. The maga bomber terrorist, and the other gun nut terrorist they just arrested are not the first, nor will they be the last.
You can't worship guns and hate as a subculture and avoid that. Conservative identity has become so intertwined with guns and hints of violence that it is a wonder that there aren't more. Once Trumps legal woes increase, that will only get worse.
CosmicCowboy
03-06-2019, 08:13 AM
Trump's kids will be hauled in front of House hearings. They will be pleading the 5th at some point.
This testimony will sink into the collective consciousness, and be turned into a "rot at the top" narrative, with the Trump administration as the rot.
What worries me though, is that this group of criminals isn't smart enough to discourage violence. The maga bomber terrorist, and the other gun nut terrorist they just arrested are not the first, nor will they be the last.
You can't worship guns and hate as a subculture and avoid that. Conservative identity has become so intertwined with guns and hints of violence that it is a wonder that there aren't more. Once Trumps legal woes increase, that will only get worse.
Steve Scalise says hi.
Trump's kids will be hauled in front of House hearings. They will be pleading the 5th at some point.
This testimony will sink into the collective consciousness, and be turned into a "rot at the top" narrative, with the Trump administration as the rot.
What worries me though, is that this group of criminals isn't smart enough to discourage violence. The maga bomber terrorist, and the other gun nut terrorist they just arrested are not the first, nor will they be the last.
You can't worship guns and hate as a subculture and avoid that. Conservative identity has become so intertwined with guns and hints of violence that it is a wonder that there aren't more. Once Trumps legal woes increase, that will only get worse.
You're a regular Oracle of Assumption
djohn2oo8
03-06-2019, 08:59 AM
You're a regular Oracle of Assumption
And you have a basic misunderstanding of what under oath means
KenMcCoy
03-06-2019, 09:48 AM
You can't worship guns and hate as a subculture and avoid that. Conservative identity has become so intertwined with guns and hints of violence that it is a wonder that there aren't more.
Why is it a wonder that there isn't more violence? Most conservatives don't worship guns and hate as much as the small % of knuckleheads out there on social media or other groups. Throwing all conservatives into the same bucket as the fringe far right wing nut jobs shows is a very racist point of view. Who is showing the hatred now?
Winehole23
03-06-2019, 09:56 AM
White folks are the last respectable targets of racism, which has been eradicated vis a vis all other groups.
Anti-racism is an anti-white ideology per se.
Ergo, Ken McCoy is the real victim of racism.
KenMcCoy
03-06-2019, 10:06 AM
My point exactly...saying all conservatives are part of some fringe white-power groups is racist.
I'm half Caucasian and half Laotian so I look much more Asian than white. No one who sees me would say I was white. My wife's family is Hispanic and they are very conservative.
clambake
03-06-2019, 10:09 AM
the suffering
KenMcCoy
03-06-2019, 10:10 AM
the suffering
The struggle is real...
RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 10:31 AM
You're a regular Oracle of Assumption
I judge those things to be nearly certain. Yes.
You willing to say that it is certain that Trumps children will NOT be hauled in front of House hearings?
As for the rest of it, the narrative that Trump is a criminal has taken hold, among people outside the Fox News bubble, and future hearings will not exonerate him.
Nearly two-thirds of voters think Trump committed crimes before taking office, poll finds
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/03/06/trump-quinnipiac-university-poll/3076827002/
djohn2oo8
03-06-2019, 10:32 AM
1103305085256388608
:lmao Cohen with suitcases full of receipts
RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 10:35 AM
Most conservatives don't worship guns
You obviously didn't pay much attention to CPAC.
Tell me then, how much stock does your average conservative voter put into NRA ratings?
Name ONE high-profile elected Republican that openly advocates gun control?
Name ONE high-profile elected Republican with a negative NRA rating?
IF Conservatives do not worship guns, we would expect to see a variety of opinions on things like gun control, and conservatives willing to vote for such things.
And you have a basic misunderstanding of what under oath means
I know exactly what an oath means. It commits the person taking the oath to a penalty of perjury if they lie. It does not however create evidence other than testimony. Testimony still has to have something to back it up otherwise it's just hearsay under oath.
I don't expect you will discuss it much though you're not very sharp. You're just a scoreboarder here and with the NBA. I guess you will consult Kyle Griffith to see what he thinks though.
Spurs Homer
03-06-2019, 10:52 AM
I know exactly what an oath means. It commits the person taking the oath to a penalty of perjury if they lie. It does not however create evidence other than testimony. Testimony still has to have something to back it up otherwise it's just hearsay under oath.
You mean like the documents of trumps financial statements and the checks signed by Trump in the Oval office?
That kind of evidence to ENHANCE Cohen's sworn testimony?
Ok - I agree.
I judge those things to be nearly certain. Yes.
You willing to say that it is certain that Trumps children will NOT be hauled in front of House hearings?
As for the rest of it, the narrative that Trump is a criminal has taken hold, among people outside the Fox News bubble, and future hearings will not exonerate him.
Nearly two-thirds of voters think Trump committed crimes before taking office, poll finds
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/03/06/trump-quinnipiac-university-poll/3076827002/
Just because I think you're full of shit with your stupid predictions doesn't mean I take the opposite prediction. I know that would make it nice and tidy for you but that's not how it works. I just don't see any reason to predict micro outcomes like you do. Just look at the facts and where those point. There's no reason to predict the future.
I can see if someone asked you what you think is going to happen but I don't recall asking you that. You are wishcasting. You spent a good amount of time doing that. You seem to be emotionally invested in it.
KenMcCoy
03-06-2019, 10:53 AM
IF Conservatives do not worship guns, we would expect to see a variety of opinions on things like gun control, and conservatives willing to vote for such things.
You can be a staunch supporter of our Bill of Rights and not "worship guns."
Why would YOU support taking away someone's rights? Which of the other Amendments would you take away?
You can be a staunch supporter of our Bill of Rights and not "worship guns."
Why would YOU support taking away someone's rights? Which of the other Amendments would you take away?
Random.Guy relies heavily on hyperbole to make an attempt at a point. He cannot talk plain speak, he has to spin everything.
You mean like the documents of trumps financial statements and the checks signed by Trump in the Oval office?
That kind of evidence to ENHANCE Cohen's sworn testimony?
Ok - I agree.
There's nothing in the testimony that proves that check was for what Cohen suggested it was for. If the documentation was proof then Cohen's testimony was redundant. All you would need would be the documentation, testimony would not be required.
So the problem here is that there's some circular reasoning going on. Also the proof that was asserted to have existed was considered proof before anyone ever saw it and in reality it's just a check that could be for anything. It's quite likely it is for exactly what he said but there's no evidence of that other than his testimony.
Spurs Homer
03-06-2019, 10:56 AM
You can be a staunch supporter of our Bill of Rights and not "worship guns."
Why would YOU support taking away someone's rights? Which of the other Amendments would you take away?
To save lives?
and
maybe you don't have to take rights away - maybe start hearings to improve the laws - ban assault weapons, make owning a gun a lot more difficult?
Or I could ask you -
why do you want children to continue getting slaughtered?
To save lives?
and
maybe you don't have to take rights away - maybe start hearings to improve the laws - ban assault weapons, make owning a gun a lot more difficult?
Or I could ask you -
why do you want children to continue getting slaughtered?
Maybe before you start talking about guns and assault weapons and things you should understand the technicalities of what you're talkin about. A lot of times when liberal people start trying to infer new gun laws they don't know what is already on the books. Educate yourself a bit, then come back with some relevant terms and understanding of existing gun laws.
If you do that and you still have the exact same opinion about what needs to happen I'm sure you will have an audience.
KenMcCoy
03-06-2019, 11:03 AM
Or I could ask you -
why do you want children to continue getting slaughtered?
Will banning assault weapons or making gun ownership more difficult ENSURE that no children are killed in an act of violence or negligence? How many children were killed in mass shootings in 2019? How many were killed in abuse?
If you can show that anything you suggested would significantly reduce the likelihood of children dying I think more people would support it.
Spurs Homer
03-06-2019, 11:04 AM
There's nothing in the testimony that proves that check was for what Cohen suggested it was for. If the documentation was proof then Cohen's testimony was redundant. All you would need would be the documentation, testimony would not be required.
Again. You are not exactly accurate.
You spew arrogance and insults constantly - and if you were accurate - then maybe it would come off as just an impatient curmudgeon.
The fact that you are so inaccurate -- well -that speaks for itself.
Nothing in the check proves...?
Let's just take that part -
Wrong. Cohen's sworn testimony adds to the fact that there are checks and how the crime occurred. Weisselberg's testimony (either in the future - or in the past with the SDNY) adds to the fact - or perjures weisselberg - if he lies -
The tape recording where Trump is discussing the porn star pymts and trump offers CASH - add to the evidence.
Any other evidence the SDNY is in possession of adds to that evidence until you put it all together to convict someone - WHICH THEY ALREADY DID. COHEN has been convicted of this and a judge had to approve the charge and the evidence.
So
Cohen's testimony was absolutely tons more than just hearsay.
Do you have any idea how little he understands. Christ the guy made up an identity on a website, and cares about impressing people he doesn’t know. For fucks sake he is a a worthless dirty slob who lives on zarzamora with his mom.
I own my home and I live in Austin. How's that diabetes treatment going for you? Is that why you torque off all the time?
Again. You are not exactly accurate.
You spew arrogance and insults constantly - and if you were accurate - then maybe it would come off as just an impatient curmudgeon.
The fact that you are so inaccurate -- well -that speaks for itself.
Nothing in the check proves...?
Let's just take that part -
Wrong. Cohen's sworn testimony adds to the fact that there are checks and how the crime occurred. Weisselberg's testimony (either in the future - or in the past with the SDNY) adds to the fact - or perjures weisselberg - if he lies -
The tape recording where Trump is discussing the porn star pymts and trump offers CASH - add to the evidence.
Any other evidence the SDNY is in possession of adds to that evidence until you put it all together to convict someone - WHICH THEY ALREADY DID. COHEN has been convicted of this and a judge had to approve the charge and the evidence.
So
Cohen's testimony was absolutely tons more than just hearsay.
So now future events are proving things. I'm not sure exactly how that works but I'm sure you going to drop some string theory on me.
Your capacity for critical thinking is one of the lowest on the Forum. I don't expect you to latch onto this wisdom I'm trying to impart to you however it's a good thing you never have sat on the bench other than that one outside of the McDonald's where that fucking plastic clowns sits.
Spurs Homer
03-06-2019, 11:06 AM
Maybe before you start talking about guns and assault weapons and things you should understand the technicalities of what you're talkin about. A lot of times when liberal people start trying to infer new gun laws they don't know what is already on the books. Educate yourself a bit, then come back with some relevant terms and understanding of existing gun laws.
If you do that and you still have the exact same opinion about what needs to happen I'm sure you will have an audience.
Ok thanks - oh great master of wisdom!
RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 11:07 AM
Throwing all conservatives into the same bucket as the fringe far right wing nut jobs shows is a very racist point of view.
Racism tends to imply race.
Are you saying one of the requirements for being "conservative" is race?
Ok thanks - oh great master of wisdom!
Consider that pro bono
RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 11:10 AM
Just because I think you're full of shit with your stupid predictions doesn't mean I take the opposite prediction. I know that would make it nice and tidy for you but that's not how it works. I just don't see any reason to predict micro outcomes like you do. Just look at the facts and where those point. There's no reason to predict the future.
I can see if someone asked you what you think is going to happen but I don't recall asking you that. You are wishcasting. You spent a good amount of time doing that. You seem to be emotionally invested in it.
(shrugs)
Not really. We all make judgments about truth, and future events.
Whether or not you would admit to it, you have an estimation as to how likely it is that the Trump children will be called in front of House subcommittees.
Racism tends to imply race.
Are you saying one of the requirements for being "conservative" is race?
Well you already said earlier that the majority of white supremacist supremacists are conservative and part of the Trump group.
Spurs Homer
03-06-2019, 11:11 AM
Will banning assault weapons or making gun ownership more difficult ENSURE that no children are killed in an act of violence or negligence? How many children were killed in mass shootings in 2019? How many were killed in abuse?
If you can show that anything you suggested would significantly reduce the likelihood of children dying I think more people would support it.
This is why I suggested hearings/talks.
There is a good probability that gun deaths and massacres/school shootings would decrease.
Before seats belts were mandated - people railed against it and cursed and bandied theories about dem communists -
after -
auto deaths decreased significantly and cars became safer.
In Japan - they regulate gun ownership severely - they don't BAN them - just make it really hard to own one and only people who really really care about owning a gun do - and they follow the rules and look up their gun deaths.
Spurs Homer
03-06-2019, 11:13 AM
So now future events are proving things. I'm not sure exactly how that works but I'm sure you going to drop some string theory on me.
Your capacity for critical thinking is one of the lowest on the Forum. I don't expect you to latch onto this wisdom I'm trying to impart to you however it's a good thing you never have sat on the bench other than that one outside of the McDonald's where that fucking plastic clowns sits.
Great - more insults.
Why are you so unhappy and constantly attack those who have different opinions than yours?
(shrugs)
Not really. We all make judgments about truth, and future events.
Whether or not you would admit to it, you have an estimation as to how likely it is that the Trump children will be called in front of House subcommittees.
I don't feel the need to speculate on the odds of some random prediction you've made. It will unfold before our eyes and we will see what happens and we can talk about it after the fact. Wishcasting isn't my thing unless it's James Harden and I can pretty much tell you for a fact he's going to fold in the playoffs.
Great - more insults.
Why are you so unhappy and constantly attack those who have different opinions than yours?
Well I think you're between a rock and a hard place right now and you're trying to paint yourself as a victim. It comes with the territory get used to it. You should know this already I don't know how many times you've registered new accounts here.
This is why I suggested hearings/talks.
There is a good probability that gun deaths and massacres/school shootings would decrease.
Before seats belts were mandated - people railed against it and cursed and bandied theories about dem communists -
after -
auto deaths decreased significantly and cars became safer.
In Japan - they regulate gun ownership severely - they don't BAN them - just make it really hard to own one and only people who really really care about owning a gun do - and they follow the rules and look up their gun deaths.
Well in Japan the hand can be used like a knife but with a tomato that won't work.
Spurs Homer
03-06-2019, 11:18 AM
Well I think you're between a rock and a hard place right now and you're trying to paint yourself as a victim. It comes with the territory get used to it. You should know this already I don't know how many times you've registered new accounts here.
Great - more inaccuracy.
KenMcCoy
03-06-2019, 12:01 PM
This is why I suggested hearings/talks.
There is a good probability that gun deaths and massacres/school shootings would decrease.
Before seats belts were mandated - people railed against it and cursed and bandied theories about dem communists -
after -
auto deaths decreased significantly and cars became safer.
In Japan - they regulate gun ownership severely - they don't BAN them - just make it really hard to own one and only people who really really care about owning a gun do - and they follow the rules and look up their gun deaths.
So it's pretty clear that you're only concerned with solving GUN related child deaths...and not child deaths in general. If that is the only thing you want to fix, then yes, banning guns is the only way to accomplish it.
In the last twenty years (since Columbine in 1999) - there have been 85 children killed in a school shooting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#United_States). That is 0.00003% of the US population. You're really going out on a major crusade to fix an epidemic of massive proportions.
In 2016 alone there were 1,750 child deaths related to abuse in the US. Extrapolated over twenty years that is 35,000 innocent children that died. (https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubPDFs/fatality.pdf)
Why are you setting your sights so low?
RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 12:01 PM
This is why I suggested hearings/talks.
There is a good probability that gun deaths and massacres/school shootings would decrease.
Before seats belts were mandated - people railed against it and cursed and bandied theories about dem communists -
after -
auto deaths decreased significantly and cars became safer.
In Japan - they regulate gun ownership severely - they don't BAN them - just make it really hard to own one and only people who really really care about owning a gun do - and they follow the rules and look up their gun deaths.
Exactly.
These things aren't complicated despite the desperate flagellation of gun nuts to obfuscate reality.
RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 12:06 PM
Whether or not you would admit to it, you have an estimation as to how likely it is that the Trump children will be called in front of House subcommittees.
I don't feel the need to speculate on the odds of some random prediction you've made. It will unfold before our eyes and we will see what happens and we can talk about it after the fact. Wishcasting isn't my thing unless it's James Harden and I can pretty much tell you for a fact he's going to fold in the playoffs.
Randomguy makes random predictions.
I wasn't asking you to speculate, merely clarify your thinking. You have declined, and my point still stands.
Admit it or not, you have your own estimation, conscious or otherwise as to the likelihood of Trumps children being called into House hearings, as well as the likelihood of them pleading the 5th amendment.
You keep your counsel, that is your prerogative.
RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 12:11 PM
So it's pretty clear that you're only concerned with solving GUN related child deaths...and not child deaths in general. If that is the only thing you want to fix, then yes, banning guns is the only way to accomplish it.
In the last twenty years (since Columbine in 1999) - there have been 85 children killed in a school shooting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#United_States). That is 0.00003% of the US population. You're really going out on a major crusade to fix an epidemic of massive proportions.
In 2016 alone there were 1,750 child deaths related to abuse in the US. Extrapolated over twenty years that is 35,000 innocent children that died. (https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubPDFs/fatality.pdf)
Why are you setting your sights so low?
No one is saying we can't do both.
This isn't an either/or kind of thing.
Lastly, your math is off. Re-read your link:
As of October 2018, the ten deadliest school shootings in the United States since the 1999 Columbine High School massacre in Colorado
Just since Sandy Hook the figure is MUCH higher.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/02/15/us/school-shootings-sandy-hook-parkland.html
When a gunman killed 20 first graders and six adults with an assault rifle at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012, it rattled Newtown, Conn., and reverberated across the world. Since then, there have been at least 239 school shootings nationwide. In those episodes, 438 people were shot, 138 of whom were killed.
KenMcCoy
03-06-2019, 12:14 PM
Lastly, your math is off. Re-read your link:
Just since Sandy Hook the figure is MUCH higher.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/02/15/us/school-shootings-sandy-hook-parkland.html
I took out the university shootings. Spurs Homer was specifically concerned with children dying.
KenMcCoy
03-06-2019, 12:16 PM
No one is saying we can't do both.
This isn't an either/or kind of thing.
Which rights that are specifically laid out in the Constitution would you propose taking away from US citizens to keep children from dying at the hands of abusers?
Spurs Homer
03-06-2019, 12:26 PM
Which rights that are specifically laid out in the Constitution would you propose taking away from US citizens to keep children from dying at the hands of abusers?
Which rights in the Constitution that Trump is trampling on -
are you upset about?
https://www.aclu.org/blog/trump-violating-constitution
KenMcCoy
03-06-2019, 12:30 PM
Which rights in the Constitution that Trump is trampling on -
are you upset about?
https://www.aclu.org/blog/trump-violating-constitution
I'm talking about the Bill of Rights, those first 10 amendments that MAKE America.
Spurs Homer
03-06-2019, 12:32 PM
I'm talking about the Bill of Rights, those first 10 amendments that MAKE America.
Answer the question.
Which of those things that trump is trampling on
like freedom of the press
emoluments/enriching himself - not separating his business interests
really really enrage you?
KenMcCoy
03-06-2019, 12:35 PM
Ummm...I asked you a question first. Answer one of those...
RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 12:38 PM
Which rights that are specifically laid out in the Constitution would you propose taking away from US citizens to keep children from dying at the hands of abusers?
None. Pretty easy.
We no more have to completely obviate constitutional rights to prevent child deaths from abuse than we have to completely obviate gun rights to prevent children from being killed with guns.
Do you think we have to completely remove gun rights to reduce gun deaths?
RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 12:40 PM
I'm talking about the Bill of Rights, those first 10 amendments that MAKE America.
Sort of. Which one of those ten got rid of slavery?
Spurs Homer
03-06-2019, 12:57 PM
Ummm...I asked you a question first. Answer one of those...
if you are using the constitution as a shield
let’s establish how much you really really abide by the constitution
otherwise
you are a cherry picker
KenMcCoy
03-06-2019, 01:02 PM
None. Pretty easy.
We no more have to completely obviate constitutional rights to prevent child deaths from abuse than we have to completely obviate gun rights to prevent children from being killed with guns.
Do you think we have to completely remove gun rights to reduce gun deaths?
I think it is a very slippery slope. For example, if we pass gun legislation that requires a Federal "mental illness" certification the administration in power will be able to set those guidelines. If a Conservative is in power, they could say "anyone who supports killing unborn children is obviously mentally ill and doesn't qualify for a gun."
Should crazy people have access to things that are potentially dangerous (i.e. - guns, bombs, cars, knives, baseball bats)? Of course not. But I don't think the Federal Gov't should be able to say who is crazy or not.
Testimony is so explosive there’s a gun debate going on :lol
Such a fucking liar
How about you fatty, what middle of the road apartment complex do you call home? How many family members shack up in that apartment? How's the carpet?
Testimony is so explosive there’s a gun debate going on :lol
Up next, movies!
koriwhat
03-06-2019, 05:18 PM
So you are in a weird cult where you guys hit it from the back while spraying ink into their skin.
Explains so much.
these are your fantasies and not mine. your fantasies say a lot about you tbh.
koriwhat
03-06-2019, 05:19 PM
Such a fucking liar
you call him a liar as you spew bs about myself. you're weak like the other male feminists on this site.
RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 06:15 PM
I think it is a very slippery slope. For example, if we pass gun legislation that requires a Federal "mental illness" certification the administration in power will be able to set those guidelines. If a Conservative is in power, they could say "anyone who supports killing unborn children is obviously mentally ill and doesn't qualify for a gun."
Should crazy people have access to things that are potentially dangerous (i.e. - guns, bombs, cars, knives, baseball bats)? Of course not. But I don't think the Federal Gov't should be able to say who is crazy or not.
Slippery Slope
Slippery Slope is a specific type of logical fallacy. A logical fallacy is a flawed argument. There are many different types of logical fallacy. Slippery slope is one example of a fallacy. It is an argument that suggests taking a minor action will lead to major and sometimes ludicrous consequences.
So, no, we do not have to completely remove gun rights to reduce gun deaths.
http://www.softschools.com/examples/grammar/slippery_slope_examples/391/
Personally I am 100% in favor of repealing the 2nd. It's time has passed.
So, no, we do not have to completely remove gun rights to reduce gun deaths.
http://www.softschools.com/examples/grammar/slippery_slope_examples/391/
Personally I am 100% in favor of repealing the 2nd. It's time has passed.
No one cares what you want.
KenMcCoy
03-06-2019, 10:36 PM
So, no, we do not have to completely remove gun rights to reduce gun deaths.
http://www.softschools.com/examples/grammar/slippery_slope_examples/391/
Personally I am 100% in favor of repealing the 2nd. It's time has passed.
So you ARE for taking away people's constitutional rights. Thanks. :tu
RandomGuy
03-07-2019, 03:28 AM
So you ARE for taking away people's constitutional rights. Thanks. :tu
Happy to oblige.
That said, such a thing is not feasible. Too many brainwashed gun nuts in the country, no matter how badly they are twisting the amendment to mean what it does not, or how stupid of a mistake it was in the first place.
I am happy to compromise. Keep your right to own guns, but with some fair restrictions.
If you are convicted of domestic violence, no guns, ever.
If you are crazy, no guns.
If you want a gun, you have to get a background check, and wait.
Guns should be made less mass-shooting friendly. I am all for getting rid of semi-automatic rifles entirely, but will be happy with smaller magazines.
No bump stocks.
Fairly common sense stuff.
Chucho
03-07-2019, 03:35 AM
Great - more insults.
Why are you so unhappy and constantly attack those who have different opinions than yours?
That's rich coming from Mr. "EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS A RACIST CULT MEMBER" .
Chucho
03-07-2019, 03:40 AM
these are your fantasies and not mine. your fantasies say a lot about you tbh.
He wants you to tattoo him in a most homoerotic manner.
Everyone has taken a piece of that worthless prick's ass today.
Chucho
03-07-2019, 03:43 AM
How about you fatty, what middle of the road apartment complex do you call home? How many family members shack up in that apartment? How's the carpet?
Probably something tantamount to Avant's shack of shit, complete with mildew and cat urine smells.
KenMcCoy
03-07-2019, 09:09 AM
Happy to oblige.
That said, such a thing is not feasible. Too many brainwashed gun nuts in the country, no matter how badly they are twisting the amendment to mean what it does not, or how stupid of a mistake it was in the first place.
I am happy to compromise. Keep your right to own guns, but with some fair restrictions.
If you are convicted of domestic violence, no guns, ever.
If you are crazy, no guns.
If you want a gun, you have to get a background check, and wait.
Guns should be made less mass-shooting friendly. I am all for getting rid of semi-automatic rifles entirely, but will be happy with smaller magazines.
No bump stocks.
Fairly common sense stuff.
I can get on board with most of that, a few questions about execution:
If you are convicted of domestic violence, no guns, ever. - This is already a question that must be answered when buying a gun and filling out the required federal background check paperwork. How would you improve on that process?
If you are crazy, no guns. - What Federal department determines "Crazy?" Is the head of that department appointed by the President? Any potential pitfalls by having a politically appointed person in charge?
If you want a gun, you have to get a background check, and wait. - Is there a legally mandated maximum time for the wait? If not, is there potential for the Federal department approving background checks to effectively halt all gun sales by dragging out the wait times? Also, are people that have submitted additional paperwork and been through the background check process free to skip the wait on subsequent purchases (similar to a TSA- Pre check).
Guns should be made less mass-shooting friendly. I am all for getting rid of semi-automatic rifles entirely, but will be happy with smaller magazines. - Would you support banning 30 round magazines and limiting it to 10 rounds?
No bump stocks. - Bump stocks are pretty dumb. No additional questions on this one.
Spurs Homer
03-07-2019, 10:39 AM
That's rich coming from Mr. "EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS A RACIST CULT MEMBER" .
Let's be accurate:
(1) I don't care if you agree with me or not.
(2) We have a proven criminal and a proven white supremacist who has ordered babies thrown in cages because of the color of their skin -
IF you still support this criminal racist - there is no other way to put it - you are supporting a criminal and a racist -
so if the shoe fits...
Chucho
03-07-2019, 11:57 AM
Let's be accurate:
(1) I don't care if you agree with me or not.
(2) We have a proven criminal and a proven white supremacist who has ordered babies thrown in cages because of the color of their skin -
IF you still support this criminal racist - there is no other way to put it - you are supporting a criminal and a racist -
so if the shoe fits...
Let's be accurate...
You say I defend the POTUS. I don't. You keep saying I do. You're a liar. Not that I care or not, but you say these lies because I disagree with you're bat-shittery fanaticism blue-loving cult mentality. You see only black and white becuase you're narrow minded.
Racists strongly believe the way they perceive a specific race to act is the only way they should act. Since I disagree with your bat-shittery fanaticism, you have no problem trying to tell me how to act, just like a racist does.
You make racist statements, there's no other way to put it. You're a racist.
You try and group people together into one herd. You're narrow minded.
Change your shoes, racist nigga.
RandomGuy
03-07-2019, 12:03 PM
If you are convicted of domestic violence, no guns, ever. - This is already a question that must be answered when buying a gun and filling out the required federal background check paperwork. How would you improve on that process?
Enforcement for it is next to non-existent. We need to emphasize it. This potentially offers the most bang for the buck in terms of gun deaths because research studies have shown that domestic violence convictions are strong risk indicators for someone turning into a mass-shooter.
RandomGuy
03-07-2019, 12:05 PM
I
If you are crazy, no guns. - What Federal department determines "Crazy?" Is the head of that department appointed by the President? Any potential pitfalls by having a politically appointed person in charge?
Mostly the same it is now. "crazy" being determined at the state level, by competent mental health professionals.
RandomGuy
03-07-2019, 12:07 PM
Guns should be made less mass-shooting friendly. I am all for getting rid of semi-automatic rifles entirely, but will be happy with smaller magazines. - Would you support banning 30 round magazines and limiting it to 10 rounds?
Sure. Personally I would prefer all rifles be bolt-action, but limiting magazines seems like a no brainer. If you are a hunter and need a ten round magazine... get the fuck back to the range before you hurt someone.
Spurs Homer
03-07-2019, 12:28 PM
Let's be accurate...
You say I defend the POTUS. I don't. You keep saying I do. You're a liar. Not that I care or not, but you say these lies because I disagree with you're bat-shittery fanaticism blue-loving cult mentality. You see only black and white becuase you're narrow minded.
Racists strongly believe the way they perceive a specific race to act is the only way they should act. Since I disagree with your bat-shittery fanaticism, you have no problem trying to tell me how to act, just like a racist does.
You make racist statements, there's no other way to put it. You're a racist.
You try and group people together into one herd. You're narrow minded.
Change your shoes, racist nigga.
you are making shit up-
YOU
claimed to be native american
yet you consistently attack me when i call out trumps crimes and racism
after you attack me when i never even mentioned you
i then point out how you - a self described native american are defending a white supremacist
if you are not defending the white supremacist- then why respond to my post when my post was about trumps racism and criminality?
what would you call that?
you cant stand to have your defense of the criminal called out - there’s your problem
LkrFan
03-07-2019, 12:37 PM
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djohn2oo8
03-07-2019, 01:08 PM
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SpursforSix
03-07-2019, 01:24 PM
lying fuck. You do nothing but support trump. You are ok with babies locked in cages.
For all of your other shittiness, the fact that you get off on these kids being raped, and dying in cages makes you truly disgusting
Edginess 9/10
Use of cursing 6/10
Badassmeter Rating : 1000000000000000
Spurs Homer
03-07-2019, 01:47 PM
The fact that the piece of shit can’t just be honest is pretty typical of today’s party of trump assholes.
add to that
his clutching his pearls and calling me racist-
while simultaneouly defending the criminal traitor white supremacist!
Chucho
03-07-2019, 03:02 PM
The fact that the piece of shit can’t just be honest is pretty typical of today’s party of trump assholes.
I attack you. Not you're ideas, you. So keep on narrative building and Dr. Phil'n.
Chucho
03-07-2019, 03:04 PM
The fact that the piece of shit can’t just be honest is pretty typical of today’s party of trump assholes.
Meh. More stories from KW-Rage lite. Probably a whole lotta wholes in your trailer's sheet rock.
Youre projecting again piece of shit trumper.
Good news for you fake, you spell like a piece of shit trumper. You’ve found your level
:lol talking shit on spelling with missing punctuation marks and poor grammar.
SpursforSix
03-07-2019, 04:20 PM
Youre projecting again piece of shit trumper.
Good news for you fake, you spell like a piece of shit trumper. You’ve found your level
Edginess: 14/10
Use of curse words: 9/10
Badassness: 1000000000
Chucho
03-07-2019, 04:41 PM
Youre projecting again piece of shit trumper.
Good news for you fake, you spell like a piece of shit trumper. You’ve found your level
LOL. Auto correct gave you a spelling nazi jab. Good for you. Your grammar is terrible. Is it a side effect from all of the ball licking?
Chucho
03-07-2019, 04:43 PM
And LOL at Bonnerific pretending he lives somewhere with matching drapes and the walls aren't wood panneling.
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