I'm Sure The Writer Is Wetting Himself

[TheWriter]

There's only one participant in this thread who fits that profile, Linus.

Whatever you say Dingman.

[Marcus Bryant]

I get called out on what?

Exactly... next.


Ah yes, another part of Linus' MO...ignore points made and talk a lot of shit.

[Marcus Bryant]

And then the keystone...profess that he alone loves San Antonio and no one else does.

[TheWriter]

What's the "next" about?

Obviously you are responded to getting called out in this thread, whether you are rightfully getting called out or not is another story.

I haven't been called out on jack.

I may have made a statement about using ED, but I did not state HHG did use it. However I said it forgetting that only a government (in this case local) has the right to use it.

That's it. I've been called out on nothing else. And I've proved everything I've said.

[3rdCoast]

I love San Antonio

[Marcus Bryant]

I haven't been called out on jack.

I may have made a statement about using ED, but I did not state HHG did use it. However I said it forgetting that only a government (in this case local) has the right to use it.

That's it. I've been called out on nothing else. And I've proved everything I've said.


Then there is the ever popular backtracking on what he claimed earlier in the thread move.

[TheWriter]

Marcus, don't you have another super cool project to work on?

I still quite honestly can't understand why you seem to always become obsessed over the happenings of a city you don't live in.

Is it just that damn boring where you live?

[TheWriter]

Then there is the ever popular backtracking on what he claimed earlier in the thread move.

What have I backtracked on... :lol :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

I don't live in SA?

[TheWriter]

I don't live in SA?

Nope. And you're not black either.

[Marcus Bryant]

Nope. And you're not black either.

I don't?

You have no idea as to where I live. Keep on digging yourself a hole.

[TheWriter]

I don't?

You have no idea as to where I live. Keep on digging yourself a hole.


:lol :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

And when caught making an unfounded point, post an emoticon(s).

[TheWriter]

And when caught making an unfounded point, post an emoticon(s).

:lol :lol :lol

You don't live in San Antonio, we all know you have stated you were born here, but we all know you don't live here.

And you're not black.

[Marcus Bryant]

And instead of owning up to a lie he was caught in, continue to make the same claim, as if someone will really believe him.

PS...I have never claimed to be African-American.

[TheWriter]

And instead of owning up to a lie he was caught in, continue to make the same claim, as if someone will really believe him.

PS...I have never claimed to be African-American.

And you don't live in San Antonio.

And yes you did... back in the Garza days, you know, when youse was SpursFan.

[j-6]

Shouldn't you care more about the 1.7 million people in San Antonio rather than the few out-of-towners that don't share your vision of making the Alamo City the arts, music, and sporting mecca of your dreams?

Oh yeah, the whole purpose of this post was to see if TK would throw down some population statistic smack ending with a "try again". Thanks for playing along, everyone.:D

[Marcus Bryant]

And you don't live in San Antonio.

You don't know. So don't pretend as if you do.




And yes you did... back in the Garza days, you know, when youse was SpursFan.

Actually that handle predates Garza. And nope, never did. Apparently some have a problem understanding that the name of a handle and/or avatar used does not represent a claim as to one's ethnicity.

Try again, kiddo.

[TheWriter]

Shouldn't you care more about the 1.7 million people in San Antonio rather than the few out-of-towners that don't share your vision of making the Alamo City the arts, music, and sporting mecca of your dreams?

1.9, but whatever makes you sleep better at night.

And well, I don't care what out of towners living in boreville think of what I say or envision.

[Marcus Bryant]

I guess now I am claiming to be a NFL helmet.

[TheWriter]

You don't know. So don't pretend as if you do.

I don't know? I've only been posting at the same board as you for more than 5 years.





Actually that handle predates Garza. And nope, never did. Apparently some have a problem understanding that the name of a handle and/or avatar used does not represent a claim as to one's ethnicity.

Try again, kiddo.

Yeah, I believe Mark Bryant didn't sign with the Spurs until 2001.

[TheWriter]

I guess now I am claiming to be a NFL helmet.

You had Mark Bryant as your avatar even before he became a Spur? :lol :lol

[TheWriter]

I remember Sequ telling me he was a teenager whenever we had are back and forths.

[Marcus Bryant]

I don't know? I've only been posting at the same board as you for more than 5 years.

ST.com hasn't been around that long.




Yeah, I believe Mark Bryant didn't sign with the Spurs until 2001.

So what?

[Marcus Bryant]

You had Mark Bryant as your avatar even before he became a Spur? :lol :lol

So what?

[TheWriter]

ST.com hasn't been around that long.

It's called SpursReport.com, do you not remember that place?




So what?

Exactly.

[TheWriter]

So what?

You were claiming to be black pre-Mark Bryant avatar and the now Marcus Bryant name.

[Marcus Bryant]

It's called SpursReport.com, do you not remember that place?

So what?

[TheWriter]

So what?

Oh wow. You must have short term memory loss.

[Marcus Bryant]

You were claiming to be black pre-Mark Bryant avatar and the now Marcus Bryant name.


Nope, never did. I only used a handle and you or whoever else assumed that because I had his pic as the avatar for a handle that I was indeed African-American.

[Marcus Bryant]

Oh wow. You must have short term memory loss.

...or perhaps you haven't a clue as to what you are claiming. That wouldn't be the first time.

[TheWriter]

Nope, never did. I only used a handle and you or whoever else assumed that because I had his pic as the avatar for a handle that I was indeed African-American.

Why would I assume you were black when you had Mark Bryant as a avatar?

:lol

Could it be the fact that you said you were black.

[TheWriter]

...or perhaps you haven't a clue as to what you are claiming. That wouldn't be the first time.

I've been posting at the same sites as you for some 5 years plus.

I have a clue.

[Marcus Bryant]

Why would I assume you were black when you had Mark Bryant as a avatar.

:lol


Well, that's the only possible explanation.




Could it be the fact that you said you were black.

Nope.

[Marcus Bryant]

I've been posting at the same sites as you for some 5 years plus.

I have a clue.

If so, you'd know I never made such a claim.

[scott]

What is this thread about?

[TheWriter]

Nope.

Yep.

Denial is all you have. Go with it.

[Marcus Bryant]

Funny, denial is your signature line.

[TheWriter]

What is this thread about?

I don't know. MB is just pure entertainment.

[Marcus Bryant]

What is this thread about?


Buddy Holly's nocturnal emissions, or more generally, his stupidity.

[j-6]

Ok, we get it. Marcus either did or didn't say he was black. Buddy either did or did not ask permission to post Slomo's pictures in an Nsync message forum.

Nobody fucking cares.

Can we move on now?

[TheWriter]

MB, workin' on that project. Getting ready for 7th grade. Needs to head on to bed now. Mustn't be late.

[TheWriter]

Ok, we get it. Marcus either did or didn't say he was black. Buddy either did or did not ask permission to post Slomo's pictures in an Nsync message forum.

Nobody fucking cares.

Can we move on now?

On to what?

Truth or dare? Twister? Pin the tail?

[Notorious H.O.P.]

At the risk of introducing a possibly relevant idea into this thread, I thought I read somewhere that the county might sell the land that Willow Springs sits on to provide land for this type (general) of project. That might be just the right amount of land to build a racetrack and a multi-use stadium for both football and baseball. That would leave enough room for parking and/or use of the existing parking across the street at the SBC would allow for more development on the Willow Springs site. Also, as long as new barns were constructed on the original land donated, would that still cover the county under the terms of the original donation? Just as an idea to circumvent this type of issue, since some of the barns will be rebuilt, couldn't (asking here) they be rebuilt on less prime land (far corner in a less desirable area) and free up the space next to the SBC?

Of course, Willow Springs flooded during the big flood a few years ago to the point where I recall debris in the trees about 10-15 feet above the ground. Also, I'd agree that the racetrack comes first and then some pitch is made for the stadium and only if a team is secured for it. A multi-use stadium is the way to go so it could accommodate both teams if secured, either/or if only one team is secured, and to minimize risk if no team is secured.

That also being said, I personally think (no links at this time but thanks for not asking) that SA can not support three major league sports. The Spurs have a hard enough time squeezing money out of the people and corporations of the city. They constantly work all angles and search endlessly for new revenue streams to make it all work. This is a championship team and it still requires this type of effort. Most teams that relocate are not elite level teams and unless the Texans or Cowboys decide to move to SA, there would be some initial interest but unless the team started winning quickly, interest would diminish rapidly. Given the limited income of the residents of SA, choices have to be made. Do you watch your beloved world championship San Antonio Spurs whom you've had a love/hate relationship with for most of your life, or do you watch the relocated franchise that is struggling to stay out of the cellar in their rankings. As a corporate sponser with limited budgets for such things, do you associate with a clear winner or a possible perennial loser?

[j-6]

Nice recovery, Beerman.

Building a racetrack for IRL or Nascar is a ridiculously dumb notion. All of the new tracks around the country were wholly built and subsidized by companies like SMI rather than publically. Also, "major-league" racetracks like TMS, Fontana, or Phoenix are built far away from the city, not right next to another arena in the middle of town.

If someone like SMI or Indy wants to spend $200M on a racetrack that will have events about as often as the 'Dome, that's their business. But if a speedway comes to a vote for city monies, it will be shot down in flames.

[TheWriter]

But if a speedway comes to a vote for city monies, it will be shot down in flames.

And Captain Obvious still doesn't get it. :lol

[j-6]

I also think that the time is past for cities to build facilities and pray for a team to relocate. Though it worked out awfully well for Baltimore and St Louis in the 90's, right now most cities don't have the money to play Ray Kinsella with, and taxpayers don't want to foot the bill for new digs unless they are backed into a corner with a relocation threat or something.

The Texans, Browns, and Panthers built homes after their franchises were awarded. Of course, the Jacksonville Jaguars renovated the Gator Bowl for what it would have cost to build a new facility.

[MannyIsGod]

I see many of you who were picked on, bullied, and harassed in school now take advantage of the clandestine nature of the internet to asked like pricks.

Good job.
Uh, don't confuse me with your life story. I'm sure no one here who knows me thinks I am not this much of an asshole offline as well. :lol

[MannyIsGod]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/stories/MYSA101105.01B.Arena.d745f9d.html

No where in that article does it say that HollyHills has purchased that land. Furthermore, it does talk about the current land owners and their views on any development proposals.

However, of note is the fact that the developer is a convicted felon. Mail Fraud being the crime. Good to know the people that are looking into this are class acts.

Its pretty safe to say that the article makes it very clear HollyHills has not purchased any land near the vicinity, and surely not the land outlined by Buddy Holly.

[TheWriter]

Thank you for using an article from the 11th of this month.

I'll go with the CEO's interview the other night.

But keep going Manny. I'm sure you'll strike oil some time within the next 200 years.

[TheWriter]

However, of note is the fact that the developer is a convicted felon. Mail Fraud being the crime. Good to know the people that are looking into this are class acts.

Say it isn't so! A human being making a mistake in life. Oh god, forget it. This thing should not happen! Mail freakin fraud!? Even though he's served his time, he should be thrown back and locked up for good. :spin


Its pretty safe to say that the article makes it very clear HollyHills has not purchased any land near the vicinity

No, but the interview with the CEO on KSAT did.

Almost struck some Texas T!

[TheWriter]

From the article that Manny linked and the article I posted a couple of weeks ago.


HollyHills Development began master planning and developing our company's vision for the East Side of San Antonio 10 months ago," HollyHills spokesman T.J. Connolly said.

In the interview with KSAT the CEO said the company had done millions of dollars in studies over the last year of the area and the results of those studies is the reason they have moved forward with this complex.

[MannyIsGod]

Thank you for using an article from the 11th of this month.

I'll go with the CEO's interview the other night.

But keep going Manny. I'm sure you'll strike oil some time within the next 200 years.
Why wasn't it written about if the purchase was made? Do you realize how big of a purchase that is?

Tell you what. Go to the county website and find the property deeds in that area. It's all public domain information, its there. I already know what you'll find. The owners aren't Holly Hill.

[MannyIsGod]

Say it isn't so! A human being making a mistake in life. Oh god, forget it. This thing should not happen! Mail freakin fraud!? Even though he's served his time, he should be thrown back and locked up for good. :spin



No, but the interview with the CEO on KSAT did.

Almost struck some Texas T!
I never said lock him up. I think a measure of awareness is nessecary when dealing with a convicted felon - of fraud no less - in this type of situation.

The one good side effect of your life long virginity will be the fact that you will never procreate. Thank god for small favors.

[MannyIsGod]

From the article that Manny linked and the article I posted a couple of weeks ago.



In the interview with KSAT the CEO said the company had done millions of dollars in studies over the last year of the area and the results of those studies is the reason they have moved forward with this complex.
Who here disputed that?

[CosmicCowboy]

At the risk of introducing a possibly relevant idea into this thread, I thought I read somewhere that the county might sell the land that Willow Springs sits on to provide land for this type (general) of project. That might be just the right amount of land to build a racetrack and a multi-use stadium for both football and baseball. That would leave enough room for parking and/or use of the existing parking across the street at the SBC would allow for more development on the Willow Springs site. Also, as long as new barns were constructed on the original land donated, would that still cover the county under the terms of the original donation? Just as an idea to circumvent this type of issue, since some of the barns will be rebuilt, couldn't (asking here) they be rebuilt on less prime land (far corner in a less desirable area) and free up the space next to the SBC?

Of course, Willow Springs flooded during the big flood a few years ago to the point where I recall debris in the trees about 10-15 feet above the ground. Also, I'd agree that the racetrack comes first and then some pitch is made for the stadium and only if a team is secured for it. A multi-use stadium is the way to go so it could accommodate both teams if secured, either/or if only one team is secured, and to minimize risk if no team is secured.

That also being said, I personally think (no links at this time but thanks for not asking) that SA can not support three major league sports. The Spurs have a hard enough time squeezing money out of the people and corporations of the city. They constantly work all angles and search endlessly for new revenue streams to make it all work. This is a championship team and it still requires this type of effort. Most teams that relocate are not elite level teams and unless the Texans or Cowboys decide to move to SA, there would be some initial interest but unless the team started winning quickly, interest would diminish rapidly. Given the limited income of the residents of SA, choices have to be made. Do you watch your beloved world championship San Antonio Spurs whom you've had a love/hate relationship with for most of your life, or do you watch the relocated franchise that is struggling to stay out of the cellar in their rankings. As a corporate sponser with limited budgets for such things, do you associate with a clear winner or a possible perennial loser?


your idea to include Willow Springs (as has also been advocated by others) makes too much sense for San Antonio.

The political reality is that the SBC/Freeman complex is owned by Bexar County and Willow Springs is owned by the City of San Antonio. The San Antonio City Council is way too fucked up to ever get anything done on a City/County partnership.

By the way...Bullock,Smith is now a part of the planning group. I told you that Spurs/Rodeo wanted them and since they were the ones that paid the bills it would happen.

[MannyIsGod]

The group Holly Hills Investors is considering purchasing a large amount of land near the SBC Center that would house the complex, the spokesman said.

http://www.ksat.com/sports/5190593/detail.html

[CosmicCowboy]

Manny...that just can't be right! Writer says it's a done deal and Hollu Hills already bought the property!

[scott]

I figured the foundation for the Olympic pavillion would have been laid this weekend...

[HB22inSA]

Only 3 pages left until it gets to 15.

[TheWriter]

http://www.ksat.com/sports/5190593/detail.html

Haha... manny, grasping.

So CEO over who's words?

Manny's?

[CosmicCowboy]

:lmao

you just can't admit you are wrong can you?

[TheWriter]

:lmao

you just can't admit you are wrong can you?

I would, if I were. :lmao

[Marcus Bryant]

If HollyHills has bought the property, why doesn't the group show up as the owner of said property? This isn't rocket science.

[SWC Bonfire]

Post a picture of the HollyHills legal representative signing the contract.

[TheWriter]

If HollyHills has bought the property, why doesn't the group show up as the owner of said property? This isn't rocket science.

Why doesn't my fathers vacant property show up? He's had it for some 10 years now.

Again. CEO > ST.com Tool Sheep Herd

[TheWriter]

Post a picture of the HollyHills legal representative signing the contract.

Hold up, do you want it off the TV or ripped from Slomo? :lmao

[Marcus Bryant]

Maybe your father has disposed of it. Provide an address and we'll see if your claim is accurate.

[TheWriter]

Maybe your father has disposed of it. Provide an address and we'll see if you claim is accurate.

Disposed of it? :lol

It's an empty lot, I don't have the lot number with me.

[MannyIsGod]

Where the fuck is the CEO saying that!???!?!? Show me something in print! Why didn't the EN quote him! Why hasn't the relocation of a sizeable neighborhood (for which the negotiatinos went really fucking quickly and quietly) been mentioned? Why hasn't the impact to Exxon and UP been discussed in the paper or on the news?

What the fuck, are you that fucking retarded? Just when I am sure that you can't get any fucking dumber, you do!

[Marcus Bryant]

Disposed of it? :lol

It's an empty lot, I don't have the lot number with me.


Doesn't matter. If he owns it, there will be a public record.

[Marcus Bryant]

Where the fuck is the CEO saying that!???!?!? Show me something in print! Why didn't the EN quote him! Why hasn't the relocation of a sizeable neighborhood (for which the negotiatinos went really fucking quickly and quietly) been mentioned? Why hasn't the impact to Exxon and UP been discussed in the paper or on the news?

What the fuck, are you that fucking retarded? Just when I am sure that you can't get any fucking dumber, you do!


Add to that the notion of ownership without a public record.

[TheWriter]

Why didn't the EN quote him!

Probably because it was a interview with KSAT.


Why hasn't the relocation of a sizeable neighborhood (for which the negotiatinos went really fucking quickly and quietly) been mentioned?

You tell me. Again: CEO > You.

Actually, foot scum > you.


What the fuck, are you that fucking retarded? Just when I am sure that you can't get any fucking dumber, you do!

All those nice words for me?

[TheWriter]

Doesn't matter. If he owns it, there will be a public record.


Actually just checked it, its does appear.

I used the Bexar County appraisal website.

[Marcus Bryant]

Well, there you go.

[CosmicCowboy]

And why are all those businesses still open and running if they sold the property? Hey dumbass...call Alamo Iron Works (934 SBC Center Parkway 224-4003) and ask them if they sold out to Holly Hills...

[TheWriter]

And why are all those businesses still open and running if they sold the property? Hey dumbass...call Alamo Iron Works (934 SBC Center Parkway 224-4003) and ask them if they sold out to Holly Hills...

:lol :lol :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

:lol :lol :lol

That's not a response.

[SWC Bonfire]

And why are all those businesses still open and running if they sold the property? Hey dumbass...call Alamo Iron Works (934 SBC Center Parkway 224-4003) and ask them if they sold out to Holly Hills...

Haven't you heard? They plan to have the city of SA finance their other environmental cleanup - now it will be IRL infill to go along with dome dirt.

[MannyIsGod]

It was on KSAT huh? Kind of like Charles Oakley? That article I posted was from KSAT. Why didn't they put his quote on there?

But yeah, you probably heard the CEO say he bought it during Oprah as a promo for the news. Anyone have Oprah recorded?

[TheWriter]

That's not a response.

Yes it is. I laughed.

I had to show some way that I laughed at his post.

It was either a LOL or a gif.

[TheWriter]

It was on KSAT huh? Kind of like Charles Oakley? That article I posted was from KSAT. Why didn't they put his quote on there?

Because the interview was a couple of days after that article was posted.


But yeah, you probably heard the CEO say he bought it during Oprah as a promo for the news. Anyone have Oprah recorded?

Yeah, I did. How'd you know? Oh wait, rehashed material from 2001.


:lol :lol :lol

[MannyIsGod]

It is your MO. I see, KSAT must only update their website once a week.

[Marcus Bryant]

The odd thing is that this thread started with a reference to KSAT's reporting and Buddy boy posted the article which stated that HollyHills was only considering the purchase...

[TheWriter]

It is your MO. I see, KSAT must only update their website once a week.

It's my MO? Yeah, 4 years ago. Apparently you can't get over it. I thought it was only women who remembered shit from years ago only to hold it against you out of nowhere. Are you not tell us something Manny

Hey Manny, crazy idea, why not email KSAT and ask for a transcript or authorization that the interview took place.

I'm sure that'll make you happy.

[TheWriter]

The odd thing is that this thread started with a reference to KSAT's reporting and Buddy boy posted the article which stated that HollyHills was only considering the purchase...

Because the local news was reported they purchased the land.

The CEO than reconfirmed said statement (of purchasing the land) in a KSAT interview.

[Marcus Bryant]

All he said was that they were interested in doing so, which, of course, is what the KSAT report states.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol

You're never going to change. How hillarious is it that in a thread mocking what he does, the guy comes in and does it?

[TheWriter]

:lol

You're never going to change. How hillarious is it that in a thread mocking what he does, the guy comes in and does it?

Manny, so hip and cool... on the internet. :lol :lol

Keep trying.

[Marcus Bryant]

:lol

You're never going to change. How hillarious is it that in a thread mocking what he does, the guy comes in and does it?


..not to mention the fact that while there is some significance to the difference between having made the purchase versus seriously evaluating such a purchase, it doesn't matter that much to the general discussion of such a plan.

[TheWriter]

..not to mention the fact that while there is some significance to the difference between having made the purchase versus seriously evaluating such a purchase, it doesn't matter that much to the general discussion of such a plan.

CEO > Over poser who doesn't even live in the city he is obsessing about. :lol

[MannyIsGod]

Manny, so hip and cool... on the internet. :lol :lol

Keep trying.
:lol

Yeah, you pegged me as the boy who lies about pictures..on the internet.

The boy who hides behinds dozens of names...on the internet.

[MannyIsGod]

Ok, well I'm done with this thread. I think everyone realizes who the tool is.

[Marcus Bryant]

Maybe Marky Mark should watch this:

KENS 5 o'clock news edition:

http://www2.mysanantonio.com/multimedia/video/VideoPlayer/playvideo.cfm?action=view&skintop=display/dsp_top.cfm&skinbottom=display/dsp_bottom.cfm&type=nod&ids=33581&play=1&format=WMV

Tell me what she says towards the end. :spin


Another video:

KENS 10 o'clock news edition:

http://www2.mysanantonio.com/multimedia/video/VideoPlayer/playvideo.cfm?action=view&skintop=display/dsp_top.cfm&skinbottom=display/dsp_bottom.cfm&type=nod&ids=33593&play=1&format=WMV


The kiddo provided this earlier in the thread as proof of his claims, but I saw nothing in either video that confirms that HollyHills has actually purchased the property. The second video consists of a couple of interviews with residents in the neighborhood about the sports complex plan and neither had indicated that they knew much about it. The second gentleman flat out made it clear that he did not intend to sell and that any track and/or complex would have to be built around his home.

In the first video, it was reported that HollyHills was supposed to make an official announcement about the plan for the sports complex in 10 days. The HollyHills CEO made general statements about San Antonio being an attractive market, but that was it.

So nothing to substantiate Buddy's claim that HollyHills has already acquired the property.

[j-6]

Holly Hills felon CEO > everyone except Phil Hardberger, Tom Benson and Jesus Christ > KSAT > digital pictures of KSAT coverage from parents TV > SAints > internets > Riverwalk > Nascar track > Nascar track on an old muni golf course > professional badminton stadium > professional badminton > Frost buying rights to Alamodome naming > Express-News > :lol 's > black people > Marcus Bryant > sheep > tools > foot scum > Manny

[Shelly]

:lmao
:lmao
:lmao

[Brodels]

Whoever suggested that someone should call the businesses is right. It there are still people living in the neighborhood and businesses are still open in that plot of land, it's clear that Buddy is incorrect.

[Marcus Bryant]

Whoever suggested that someone should call the businesses is right. It there are still people living in the neighborhood and businesses are still open in that plot of land, it's clear that Buddy is incorrect.


Well, the KENS report that he provided a link to had an interview with a gentleman living in the neighborhood that HollyHills has supposedly purchased and he indicated that he had not sold his property.

[scott]

What do you people hate more, Freedom or the City of San Antonio?

[CosmicCowboy]

What do you people hate more, Freedom or the City of San Antonio?

what the hell does that have to do with anything?

It's just hard to sit here and watch Buddy spout page after page of his nonsense while maintaining his liplock on the CEO of HolluHills nutsack...Buddy has no fucking clue about the subject or how the city/county/world operates and his posts prove it.

[TheWriter]

:lmao at all these tools still grinding my nut sack.

Gotta love it.

Seriously, don't quit your day jobs.

[Marcus Bryant]

You're right, because if we did, then we'd be you.

I see you have no response to the lack of support those video clips have for your claim.

[TheWriter]

You're right, because if we did, then we'd be you.

I see you have no response to the lack of support those video clips have for your claim.

:lol :lol

Finished your project Marcus.

Again, you have yet to answer why you are so obsessed with the happenings of a city you don't live in.

http://www.mcgeeandme.com/images/jealousy.gif

[Marcus Bryant]

Where's your source, man? None of the material you've linked to or quoted in here supports your claim.

[TheWriter]

Where's your source, man? None of the material you've linked to or quoted in here supports your claim.

http://www.staugustine.net/a%20theater%20of%20envy.jpg

[Marcus Bryant]

That's not an acceptable source. Again, where is your source?

[TheWriter]

That's not an acceptable source. Again, where is your source?

http://home.earthlink.net/~brookish/bittert.jpg

[gameFACE]

I can't believe I actually sat and read this whole thread. Well....I had to skip over a few parts.


Because the local news was reported they purchased the land.

The CEO than reconfirmed said statement (of purchasing the land) in a KSAT interview.
Which interview did this CEO say this in? It's not in the ones you posted. Has it crossed your mind that the local news might have reported incorrectly? I have a hard time believing that a developer fairly new to SA has bought the Alamo Iron Works site. AIW is a long established company who moved when the Alamodome was constructed. I doubt they would do that again.

I've followed many new project announcements for years since i was a young pup. The trends usually tend to be that only a portion of the original master plan is built, possibly none of it or it is only the start of an idea that will substantially change in scope through several years. It's quite possible that some of this could be built but I haven't seen anything that substantiates this development other than a news report that no on saw.

[Marcus Bryant]

I can't believe I actually sat and read this whole thread. Well....I had to skip over a few parts.


Which interview did this CEO say this in? It's not in the ones you posted. Has it crossed your mind that the local news might have reported incorrectly?

No, because that would make sense and would require him to admit that his source is something other than 'trust me, I really love San Antonio'...

[TheWriter]

I can't believe I actually sat and read this whole thread. Well....I had to skip over a few parts.


Which interview did this CEO say this in? It's not in the ones you posted. Has it crossed your mind that the local news might have reported incorrectly? I have a hard time believing that a developer fairly new to SA has bought the Alamo Iron Works site. AIW is a long established company who moved when the Alamodome was constructed. I doubt they would do that again.

I've followed many new project announcements for years since i was a young pup. The trends usually tend to be that only a portion of the original master plan is built, possibly none of it or it is only the start of an idea that will substantially change in scope through several years. It's quite possible that some of this could be built but I haven't seen anything that substantiates this development other than a news report that no on saw.

CEO > Gameface.

[Marcus Bryant]

361 posts and still no source for his claim.

[TheWriter]

361 posts and still no source for his claim.

Marky, don't you have a job or atleast a welfare check to use up.

Crack just doesn't go buying itself.

[Marcus Bryant]

Again, what is the source for your claim that HollyHills has closed on that property?

[CosmicCowboy]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/thezoed/a_head_up_ass.jpg

Marcus, I am sure he saw it somewhere...

[Marcus Bryant]

So has Linus finally given up on the Great Pumpkin Development Co.?

[TheWriter]

HAHA...

http://www4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~msrex/images/how/envious.gif

[CosmicCowboy]

HAHA...

http://www4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~msrex/images/how/envious.gif

:lmao

I needed a good laugh today!

[MannyIsGod]

:lol

I wonder what the hell we're supposed to be envious of?

[ChumpDumper]

Dude, it's alright. You jumped the gun on hundreds of real estate transactions.

Quit making it worse.

[scott]

Did I miss the announcment?

[scott]

no?

[Marcus Bryant]

Oh yeah, where is the Great Pumpkin?

[Mark in Austin]

So has Linus finally given up on the Great Pumpkin Development Co.?

:lmao Now that's effing funny.

[Shelly]

hmmm..

[Gatita]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/thezoed/a_head_up_ass.jpg

Marcus, I am sure he saw it somewhere...

:lmao

[scott]

Seriously...

[Marcus Bryant]

This just in...HollyHills intends to bring an actual nightlife to San Antonio de Bexar.

[Shelly]

Any updates? It's been 10 days, no?

[scott]

Writer, where are you?

[TheWriter]

Writer, where are you?

Right here.

[Shelly]

So, Writer. Where's the announcement?

[TheWriter]

So, Writer. Where's the announcement?

In time. Don't worry.

I may have jumped the gun on the land acquisition thing, but everything is moving along very smoothly.

[gameFACE]

......................... yeah, where is that.... "C-E-O".......?

[TheWriter]

......................... yeah, where is that.... "C-E-O".......?

Probably in his downtown office.

[Marcus Bryant]

In time. Don't worry.

I may have jumped the gun on the land acquisition thing, but everything is moving along very smoothly.

source?

[TheWriter]

source?

It isn't linkable so don't worry about it.

[Marcus Bryant]

What's the source, then?

[CosmicCowboy]

The details of the achitectural consortium have been worked out. Bullock Smith will be added to the team. Commissioners will vote to approve next Wednesday. HollyHills doesn't have a fucking thing to do with it.

[TheWriter]

What's the source, then?

A person.

[TheWriter]

The details of the achitectural consortium have been worked out. Bullock Smith will be added to the team. Commissioners will vote to approve next Wednesday. HollyHills doesn't have a fucking thing to do with it.

That's because its two seperate things.

[Marcus Bryant]

A person.


Same person who told you that the developer had already acquired all of the properties?

[TheWriter]

Same person who told you that the developer had already acquired all of the properties?

No. That was the CEO in an interview.

Although I probably misinterpreted what he said and in a hasty manner proclaimed something that wasn't true.

Although I now know a lot more about what is going on then before. But I'm just keeping it cool until everything gets worked out.

[CosmicCowboy]

Let me get this straight...

HollyHills is going to buy that property and then tie this new sports complex into the SBC Complex...

While the county is commissioning close term and long range planning for the SBC Complex that does not include HollyHills plan or that property.

hmmmm...I think your source is wrong AGAIN.

[TheWriter]

Let me get this straight...

HollyHills is going to buy that property and then tie this new sports complex into the SBC Complex...

While the county is commissioning close term and long range planning for the SBC Complex that does not include HollyHills plan or that property.

hmmmm...I think your source is wrong AGAIN.

The Holly Hills plan uses land adjacent to SBC Center/Bexar county land and does nt include the SBC Center in its plans.

What you are talking is a Bexar County project that will use their own land that includes the Freeman, the parking lots, and the barns as well as the SBC Center.

Lets just say this, the first phase of the Holly Hills group plan has pretty much been made official.

Now they're slowly working on phase II.

[CosmicCowboy]

The Holly Hills plan uses land adjacent to SBC Center/Bexar county land and does nt include the SBC Center in its plans.

What you are talking is a Bexar County project that will use their own land that includes the Freeman, the parking lots, and the barns as well as the SBC Center.

Lets just say this, the first phase of the Holly Hills group plan has pretty much been made official.

Now they're slowly working on phase II.

Since you insinuate you have the inside scoop on Hollyhills, what IS phase 1?

[Das Texan]

maybe i should should talk to MY source and truly figure out whats going on here.

[Marcus Bryant]

So they've bought the property? That's at least 200 separate transactions.

[TheWriter]

Since you insinuate you have the inside scoop on Hollyhills, what IS phase 1?

The Grand Prix race with the IRL.

It was announced last week that it would be held in 2007.

That was phase I, to get the gand prix race.

Phase II is complex which is currently going very smoothly.

[CosmicCowboy]

The IRL race is a street track and centered on the Alamodome/downtown area. And it is FAR from being a done deal.

[Mark in Austin]

Phase 1 is talking about a big project publicly prior to putting the properties under contract, thus driving up acquisition costs.

Phase two is getting an earful from metro alliance and COPS about living wages.

Phase three is listening to posturing bullshit from the city council.

anybody want to take a shot at phase four?

[TheWriter]

The IRL race is a street track and centered on the Alamodome/downtown area. And it is FAR from being a done deal.

No, its pretty much a done deal. With an official announcement within the next 5-6 months.

[Das Texan]

why do you contradict yourself buddy

first you say that its going to be held in 2007. now its pretty much a done deal.

being set in stone which you insuinate in a couple posts above is not the same as pretty much being done as its not exactly official at that point.

damn you are confusing in your world.

[TheWriter]

why do you contradict yourself buddy

first you say that its going to be held in 2007. now its pretty much a done deal.

Yes, it's pretty much a done deal for a 2007 start date.

Where is the contradiction?

[Marcus Bryant]

Phase 1 is talking about a big project publicly prior to putting the properties under contract, thus driving up acquisition costs.


Exactly. Not to mention the stray owners who don't want to sell the house they've lived in for the past 50 years or whatever raising a fuss and getting extensive media coverage.



Phase two is getting an earful from metro alliance and COPS about living wages.

No doubt.



Phase three is listening to posturing bullshit from the city council.

anybody want to take a shot at phase four?

Threatening to end the project in order to hold those other parties in check or just terminating the project altogether.

[CosmicCowboy]

Phase 1 is talking about a big project publicly prior to putting the properties under contract, thus driving up acquisition costs.

Phase two is getting an earful from metro alliance and COPS about living wages.

Phase three is listening to posturing bullshit from the city council.

anybody want to take a shot at phase four?

:lmao

Shot down in flames?

[CosmicCowboy]

Yes, it's pretty much a done deal for a 2007 start date.

Where is the contradiction?

Wrong

It has the same "minor" problem that killed the last IRL race here.

No Sponsor

No Sponsor, No Race

[TheWriter]

I'm going to sit back, ignore this thread and keep quiet about the negotiations that Holly Hills is currently in the middle of until everything is confirmed.

Feel free to call me out every second of the day but don't expect me to reply.

Good day all.

[Marcus Bryant]

The Grand Prix race with the IRL.

It was announced last week that it would be held in 2007.

That was phase I, to get the gand prix race.

Phase II is complex which is currently going very smoothly.

Phase II would consist of HollyHills getting the county to go along with the plan and to use eminent domain to run a number of working class homeowners out of their homes as well as a number of business to relocate and/or cease to operate. Phase II would also consist of getting a ballot measure passed to allow it to pay for whatever stadia are to be built with some permutation of a revenue bond.

That does not happen "smoothly". That does not happen over the course of 5 months.

[TheWriter]

Phase II would consist of HollyHills getting the county to go along with the plan and to use eminent domain to run a number of working class homeowners out of their homes as well as a number of business to relocate and/or cease to operate. Phase II would also consist of getting a ballot measure passed to allow it to pay for whatever stadia are to be built with some permutation of a revenue bond.

That does not happen "smoothly". That does not happen over the course of 5 months.

The county? It's city land.

[Marcus Bryant]

I'm going to sit back, ignore this thread and keep quiet about the negotiations that Holly Hills is currently in the middle of until everything is confirmed.

Feel free to call me out every second of the day but don't expect me to reply.

Good day all.


Funny. He's gone from reading the SA Business Journal to being smack dab in the middle of the action.

How convenient.

[Marcus Bryant]

The county? It's city land.


A significant number of those properties have private ownership. HollyHills was supposedly working with the county on the plan for the complex. It's going to need some local entity to use in order to force those property owners to sell.

[CosmicCowboy]

Funny. He's gone from reading the SA Business Journal to being smack dab in the middle of the action.

How convenient.

The San Antonio Business Journal is a notoriously inaccurate piece of shit newspaper. They do NO critical journalism and are basically an infomercial for promoters like these Holly Hills scam artists. I made it a policy about 8 years ago that any existing customer of mine that was "featured" in the SA business journal immediately got put on COD.

[ChumpDumper]

Phase One: Collect underpants.

[MannyIsGod]

Phase One: Collect underpants.
http://www.singasaints.com/look/niemi_tweek_2.jpg

:lol

[scott]

Heard on the radio this morning that HollyHills has a major announcment coming on Monday. What could it be?

[TheWriter]

Heard on the radio this morning that HollyHills has a major announcment coming on Monday. What could it be?

That TheWriter/BuddyHolly/SpursWin/FastandFuriousSpurs/WriterNum934/BadlyDrawnBoy is a moron.

[/Manny&Marcus]

[scott]

You seem to have the inside scoop - what's the announcment about?

[scott]

I guess you've signed a confidentiallity agreement or something...

[scott]

I missed the announcment - did anyone catch it?

[Marcus Bryant]

Linus, where's the announcement?

[TheWriter]

Linus, where's the announcement?

:lol :lol

I've been too busy with the 3 highrise condo projects announced this week to read this thread... :lol

Still hasn't gotten old. :spin

[Marcus Bryant]

:yawn

[TheWriter]

:yawn

You should get to bed than. Can't be late for 7th grade math class tomorrow.

[Marcus Bryant]

Keep on dreaming.

[TheWriter]

Keep on dreaming.

About what exactlyhttp://www.fullspectrumremodeling.com/images/question-mark.gif

[Mark in Austin]

:lol :lol

I've been too busy with the 3 highrise condo projects announced this week to read this thread...



:lol You make it sound like they're your projects or something... but you're not designing them. You're not the broker or the developer. You're not with the media...

...so aside from reading a few press releases and reposting them, what about the three projects has dominated your time? Daydreaming?

[scott]

Where The Fuck Is Our Pro Bocce Ball Stadium???

[TheWriter]

Where The Fuck Is Our Pro Bocce Ball Stadium???


:lol :lol :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

No word on Tuesday. I guess Linus is too busy rounding up institutional investors for HollyHills' latest development to get the info over to the Excuse-for-News.

[TheWriter]

No word on Tuesday. I guess Linus is too busy rounding up institutional investors for HollyHills' latest development to get the info over to the Excuse-for-News.


:lol :lol :lol :lol x's a million!

[Marcus Bryant]

No word on Wednesday.

[Extra Stout]

:lol :lol

I've been too busy with the 3 highrise condo projects announced this week to read this thread... :lol

Still hasn't gotten old. :spin
:wtf

You're a 19-year-old high-functioning autistic living in your parent's basement.

How exactly do you define "busy?" Googling for plat charters?

[TheWriter]

You're a 19-year-old high-functioning autistic living in your parent's basement.

I am? :wtf

Weird, I thought I was 21 living in my own place. Damn SimCity.

[Marcus Bryant]

Same concept.

[Extra Stout]

OK. Fine.

You're a 21-year-old high-functioning autistic living in your own place.

Please explain to use how you are "busy."

[Das Texan]

so whats the announcement?

[San Antonio]

See!!! :rolleyes He does this kind of crap all the time! :wtf

:flipoff

[TheWriter]

Please explain to use how you are "busy."

It's called a joke that obviously flew over your head.

I was making fun of myself via other board members immature comments in the past about me jerking off to freeway magazines andpictures of the city.

But you just joined the sheep, you wouldn't know.

[Puppy Dog]

writer, i just clicked on this thread and refuse to read it...but let me ask...did you really wet yourself or was that just a clever hook?

thanks in advance. :tu

[TheWriter]

writer, i just clicked on this thread and refuse to read it...but let me ask...did you really wet yourself or was that just a clever hook?

thanks in advance. :tu

No hook. I sure did. Like a Korean hooker during war time. :spin

[scott]

Maybe the announcement is coming this week?

[TheWriter]

E. Side land courtship hits bump

Web Posted: 11/20/2005 12:00 AM CST

Elizabeth Allen
Express-News Staff Writer

As developer Dan Bailey crafts his plan for a massive sports complex on the East Side, he finds himself in an uneasy courtship with someone key to redeveloping the area — landowner Bill Tidwell.

Last week, it almost blew up for Bailey when Tidwell, tired of hearing his name bandied about town as part of the deal when no promises had been made, had associate Cecilia Garcia send Bailey a harshly worded letter telling him to set the record straight. Garcia copied the Nov. 17 letter to various community leaders.

"It has come to Mr. Tidwell's attention that you or your associates may be representing to others that he has agreed to participate in the project and include his properties within your site plan," wrote Garcia, owner of real estate firm The Priority Group and member of the city's planning board. "We are concerned that others may be relying on your representations that he is a part of this project.

"Mr. Tidwell will support legitimate efforts to improve the area and maximize the use of existing public resources," the letter continued before urging Bailey to cancel plans for a news conference Tuesday at Tidwell's Red Berry Mansion.

Bailey and wife Marlene Bailey own HollyHills Group, a California-based company that already has announced big plans for an industrial park on the South Side and a golf community on the far West Side.

Tuesday they plan to announce their redevelopment ideas for the area that surrounds the Bexar County-owned SBC Center and Freeman Coliseum, as well as the adjacent city-owned Willow Springs Golf Course. Making that work depends on weaving together a web of supporters, each seeming to be looking to the next for confidence.

And at this point it looks like the plan will still — or once again — include Tidwell.

Tidwell owns Cardell Cabinetry, a sprawling cabinet factory along Interstate 35 in the East Side Council District 10. And over the past two years he also bought two important East Side properties. One is the Red Berry Mansion, on 84 acres along Salado Creek and adjacent to the city's Willow Springs Golf Course. And across Houston Street from Willow Springs — and the arenas — he owns a 165,000-square-foot warehouse.

Tidwell's timing is good. Bexar County officials last week awarded a $327,000 contract for a master plan of the SBC Center-Freeman Coliseum complex. That design could reach out to include the golf course and surrounding properties like Tidwell's, and County Judge Nelson Wolff has said any large-scale redevelopment of the area would need to include them.

Wolff was one of those who received a copy of Garcia's letter to Bailey. Others included Mayor Phil Hardberger and District 10 Councilwoman Sheila McNeil.

Garcia's letter wrapped up by saying Tidwell is willing to talk.

They've already been talking for some time, as Bailey reminded Tidwell in a reply sent that night.

"When we first met on the trip to Rockport, we shared with you our Vision of the Eastside," Bailey wrote to Tidwell. "I told you at that time that the project would work without Red Barry (sic) Mansion but you were adamant about leaving it in and you were so thrilled after seeing what we had envisioned for the Eastside."

By Friday morning, Bailey had patched it up with Tidwell, who softened his stance and said they'll meet again today.

"I told him he could go ahead and have his press conference," Tidwell said.

Part of the reason he had asked Garcia to write the letter was because of the rumors that were coming back to them both, he said. The other part was business hardball. Tidwell had grown tired of waiting for Bailey to get him real numbers on a proposed partnership.

"I took a little inventory of my time and where I want to go with my life," he said, adding that he's decided an outright sale to Bailey would be better than partnering with him in an ambitious 10-year project.

Bailey spokesman T.J. Connolly said he expects the conference will be held at the Red Berry Mansion, but will firm up the details after the two men meet.

McNeil said Friday that Bailey never specifically told her Tidwell had signed on to either partner with Bailey or sell him his properties.

"But the impression was that they were going to team up to do this," she said.

Tidwell admitted he's been intrigued with the Bailey plan for some time, but said recently that he would proceed with caution after learning that Bailey had served time for fraud in the 1980s.

Tidwell's been seeking reassurance that city and county officials support Bailey — particularly Wolff, whom he admires. And he said Bailey told him Wolff was on board.

"On board with what, though?" Wolff said when asked about his support. "It's just a sketch. It doesn't say who owns it, or who's going to pay for what. I just said that 'It's great that you've got a vision for the East Side.'"

Wolff has remained coy in part because he thinks Tidwell is key. And he falls back on the county's first duty: intelligent redesign of the arenas property.

"We're going to concentrate on the grounds," he said.

The planners take the same position. Led by Kell Muñoz Architects and San Francisco-based EDAW, they will start with the site itself, said Kell Muñoz CEO Henry Muñoz. Then they'll work their way to the surrounding properties and see how it all fits together.

Muñoz said he hasn't conversed with the Baileys for "going on six months," but a sketch his firm showed county commissioners was remarkably similar in its elements to the ideas Bailey has shopped around. Those include a football stadium, NASCAR track and a baseball stadium.

McNeil said she's waiting on what the planners dream up, and what else is out there, before she takes a position on HollyHills.

"I'm not at liberty to say who they are, but there are a couple of other people who have come to me with ideas about the area," she said.

Tidwell himself has hinted, without elaboration, that others have ideas for the East Side. And whatever those ideas are, he said, to work, they're going to have to be big.

[email protected]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA112005.01B.Courtship.2639ce8f.html

[TheWriter]

Maybe the announcement is coming this week?

Seems so. Tuesday will be the announcement.

Hopefully get some renderings.

[3rdCoast]

Seems so. Tuesday will be the announcement.

Hopefully get some renderings.

Writer, when you get the renderings, POST THEM ASAP!


Seriously.

I want some fucking renderings!!!!!!!!!!!

Will you be posting them at the SA Development Forum also?

[TheWriter]

Writer, when you get the renderings, POST THEM ASAP!


Seriously.

I want some fucking renderings!!!!!!!!!!!

Will you be posting them at the SA Development Forum also?

Mine?

Not yet. I'm getting that together. I bought a domain name and just need to get the Vbulletin going.

[3rdCoast]

Mine?

Not yet. I'm getting that together. I bought a domain name and just need to get the Vbulletin going.

Awesome. I yearn for the day the board opens. It will be a great way to keep the locals informed on developments and stuff of that nature.

[TheWriter]

Awesome. I yearn for the day the board opens. It will be a great way to keep the locals informed on developments and stuff of that nature.

Yeah, I'm really going to try and make this a really cool and professional site.

I've seen tons of sites for other cities and I'm shocked at how professional many of them look.

Some our simply message boards and some are actual websites with layouts and galleries and etc.

[3rdCoast]

Yeah, I'm really going to try and make this a really cool and professional site.

I've seen tons of sites for other cities and I'm shocked at how professional many of them look.

Some our simply message boards and some are actual websites with layouts and galleries and etc.


Outstanding. San Antonio needs something like that.

There are a lot of things changing the face of the city and a lot of people want to keep up to date with the happenings.

This web site, will allow all of us to do just that.

Great work, Writer.