Clinton rules out 2020 run

[Will Hunting]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/04/politics/hillary-clinton-2020/index.html

:lmao the Trumptards who were having wet dreams about her running again

[Chris]

She's going to continue to speak up for #TheResistance.

[BD24]

Where’s that fucking retard hater at? Get in here and eat your shuit sandwhich

[DarrinS]

She saw a crowded field and bailed.

[spurraider21]

:cry she's gonna run again for sure! :cry

[DarrinS]

:cry she's gonna run again for sure! :cry

If it was three unknown white males + Bernie, she'd probably run again. :lol

[spurraider21]

If it was three unknown white males + Bernie, she'd probably run again. :lol
no she wouldn't. this was a "rumor" that never had legs and was only being discussed on conservative outlets

[boutons_deux]

Merkley, email:

"And I've been thinking hard about what I can give, how I can make the best contribution to the vital work in front of us.

I want you to be among the first to know: tomorrow morning, I will make a major announcement about my plans for 2020."

[Will Hunting]

If it was three unknown white males + Bernie, she'd probably run again. :lol
You have the chicken and the egg mixed up here. Her running and having a grip on the Democratic party is why her only competition in 2016 was "three unknown white males", the crowded field this time around is the result of the Clintons no longer having the influence they used to have.

[Chris]

no she wouldn't. this was a "rumor" that never had legs and was only being discussed on conservative outlets

I bet those conservative outlets don't want to go see the ol' ball coach after det one!

[DarrinS]

You have the chicken and the egg mixed up here. Her running and having a grip on the Democratic party is why her only competition in 2016 was "three unknown white males", the crowded field this time around is the result of the Clintons no longer having the influence they used to have.

I wasn't really arguing cause and effect. Things are clearly different than 2016. I wouldn't laugh or dare anyone to run, at this point. Anything is possible.

[Will Hunting]

She's going to continue to speak up for #TheResistance.
That's just her trying to convince herself she's still relevant :lol

:cry I'm not running but I'm not going anywhere :cry

[Chris]

That's just her trying to convince herself she's still relevant :lol

:cry I'm not running but I'm not going anywhere :cry

She's going to cash in on public speaking appearance and book tours as long as she can. If the Huber and Horowitz investigations lead to anything substantial she may well need every penny.

[Will Hunting]

She's going to cash in on public speaking appearance and book tours as long as she can. If the Huber and Horowitz investigations lead to anything substantial she may well need every penny.
I don’t think it’s only a money thing with her. I think the Clintons care just as much about being able to exert influence as they do just having money, which is why she’s fighting and clawing to control the Democratic Party as much as she can behind the scenes.

[Pavlov]

Huber and Horowitz:lol

[Chris]

:lol

"HQ Special"
"Insurance Policy"

Yikes.

[Pavlov]

"HQ Special"
"Insurance Policy"

Yikes.What would any of that have to do with Hillary personally?

Explain.

[Chris]

What would any of that have to do with Hillary personally?

Explain.

"HQ Special" = Hillary didn't get investigated. (Comey)

"Insurance Policy" = Russiagate in case Hillary loses.

Still confused?

[Pavlov]

"HQ Special" = Hillary didn't get investigated. (Comey)

"Insurance Policy" = Russiagate in case Hillary loses.

Still confused?So the insurance policy has absolutely nothing to do with her personally.

What did they not investigate with the "HQ special"?

[ElNono]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/04/politics/hillary-clinton-2020/index.html

:lmao the Trumptards who were having wet dreams about her running again

:lol

This is the best new the Democrats had in years, tbh

[Spurtacular]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/04/politics/hillary-clinton-2020/index.html

:lmao the Trumptards who were having wet dreams about her running again

You really think she wasn't considering a run? She obviously decided that a 2024 run into an open office was going to be better than getting raped by Trump again (if she didn't get bludgeoned in Dem primaries first).

And I'm not saying a 2024 run is inevitable; but it's obvious that she's leaving her options open.

[Spurtacular]

"Well, I'd like to be president," Clinton said.

A consistent sentiment whenever the topic is addressed.

[Spurtacular]

So the insurance policy has absolutely nothing to do with her personally.

What did they not investigate with the "HQ special"?

:lol Hillary's sperm shielder :lol

[Pavlov]

:lol Hillary's sperm shielder :lol
Name her crimes.

[LaSíSí]

Name her crimes.

:lol Crutch

[Pavlov]

:lol Crutchyou just retreated to an alt.

Name her crimes, derp.

[Will Hunting]

You really think she wasn't considering a run? She obviously decided that a 2024 run into an open office was going to be better than getting raped by Trump again (if she didn't get bludgeoned in Dem primaries first).

And I'm not saying a 2024 run is inevitable; but it's obvious that she's leaving her options open.
I never said she didn’t want to run. I said she was going to try as hard as she could to convince herself people wanted her to run but in the end there’d be too many voices in her ear telling her not to do it.

:lmao her running in 2024, she’d be 77 years old by election night. That’s an even bigger right wing pipe dream.

[Spurtacular]

you just retreated to an alt.

Name her crimes, derp.

Compulsive psychopav making the same tired demands. Par.

[Pavlov]

Compulsive psychopav making the same tired demands. Par.:lol you never name any crimes.

You only whine.

lol derp

[Spurtacular]

:lol you never name any crimes.

You only whine.

lol derp

On multiple occasions I've named crimes. But as you say, only sperm shielders such as you believe she's clean.

[Pavlov]

On multiple occasions I've named crimes. But as you say, only sperm shielders such as you believe she's clean.never saw them.

Name some now.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao her running in 2024, she’d be 77 years old by election night. That’s an even bigger right wing pipe dream.

Yet, she continually says, "I'd like to be president." Clearly, she's holding onto the dream.

[Spurtacular]

never saw them.

You have; but I could care less either way.


Name some now.

You know I don't care about your demands; but that doesn't stop you from demanding, psychopav.

[Will Hunting]

Yet, she continually says, "I'd like to be president." Clearly, she's holding onto the dream.
Pretty much everyone who ran for president and lost is someone who “would like to be president”. That statement means nothing.

[Spurtacular]

Pretty much everyone who ran for president and lost is someone who “would like to be president”. That statement means nothing.

McCain gave it up. Romney gave it up. They didn't pine for another chance like Hillary does.

[ElNono]

:lol I knew Spurtacular wouldn't take the news well... red pill, deep state, etc...

[Spurtacular]

:lol I knew Spurtacular wouldn't take the news well... red pill, deep state, etc...

How is this supposed to bother me? You should rise above your inner blake. :lmao

[ElNono]

How is this supposed to bother me? You should rise above your inner blake. :lmao

come on son, we all know how much you hate her and we all know this was probably the easiest target for Dennison... nothing wrong with being disappointed, tbh

[Chucho]

How is this supposed to bother me? You should rise above your inner blake. :lmao

He does bother you. You created an unfunny alt trying to "get" him. How many "W"s do you see yourself having, derp?

[Will Hunting]

McCain gave it up. Romney gave it up. They didn't pine for another chance like Hillary does.
You don't think Romney "would like to be president"?

[Spurtacular]

come on son, we all know how much you hate her and we all know this was probably the easiest target for Dennison... nothing wrong with being disappointed, tbh

I enjoy watching Hillary get pummeled. But I think you're overestimating Hillary relative to the other Dems as contenders. This is nothing I take as bad news. If anything it's mixed b/c it's not like I'm sad about the psychopath felon not taking the chance to wield the most power in the world.

[Spurtacular]

You don't think Romney "would like to be president"?

He said things like "maybe, I'm not a good candidate" and he moved on quickly and didn't keep floating the idea of being president every time the topic came up.

[Will Hunting]

He said things like "maybe, I'm not a good candidate" and he moved on quickly and didn't keep floating the idea of being president every time the topic came up.
Yeah I don't dispute the fact Hillary has a tough time admitting she's a shitty candidate than anyone else largely due to her giant ego, but that doesn't equate to her running again.

[Spurtacular]

He does bother you. You created an unfunny alt trying to "get" him. How many "W"s do you see yourself having, derp?

I ordered my answer with the crust cut off. Sorry.

[Spurtacular]

Yeah I don't dispute the fact Hillary has a tough time admitting she's a shitty candidate than anyone else largely due to her giant ego, but that doesn't equate to her running again.

I've said she may or may not run again. I've also said she will seriously consider running in the future. She could be the Henry Clay of our time in that respect. The polls were not in her favor, the field and opposition candidate were not in her favor this time either. She'll hope she has enough health and that sentiment against her has simmered and she'll quite possibly run in 2024, as that would likely be her last chance. Why does she care? Do you really think it's about her love of public service? That's her narrative.

[Will Hunting]

I've said she may or may not run again.
Just like how I “may or may not” fuck a Victoria’s Secret model in the next 24 hours.

[Spurtacular]

Just like how I “may or may not” fuck a Victoria’s Secret model in the next 24 hours.

You're kidding yourself if you don't think there's a substantial chance she'll run again. The only caveat I'd add is health could rob her of the decision.

[Pavlov]

You have; but I could care less either way.



You know I don't care about your demands; but that doesn't stop you from demanding, psychopav.You never named any and you never will.

:lol sad derp

[Pavlov]

I've said she may or may not run again.:lol Bold.

[Spurminator]

This is the least surprising news in months, for anyone who's not a fucking idiot.

[DMC]

:cry she's gonna run again for sure! :cry

Did you weigh in on it prior to her announcement or did you just hang back like you normally do and only pile on when it's a certain outcome?

[Will Hunting]

You're kidding yourself if you don't think there's a substantial chance she'll run again. The only caveat I'd add is health could rob her of the decision.
You keep using vague terms like "may or may not" (still don't know what the point of that statement is either, since the only two possible outcomes are her either running or not running, you can take literally any hypothetical event in the future no matter how unlikely and make a true statement that it "may or may not" happen) and "significant chance" because you're trying to create an out for yourself if she doesn't run again.

The fact people were still thinking there was a good chance of her running in 2020 right up until she made an official statement is retarded. She wouldn't have been counseling other candidates (Amy Klobuchar most notably) if she was even considering it, and the people who had a great chance in 2016 and didn't run because they were worried about political backlash for getting in Hillary's way (Warren, Biden, Klobuchar) wouldn't be running now.

The "waiting until 2024" theory also makes zero sense since that could only happen if Trump is re-elected in 2020 (no matter how big of a Trumper you are, there's no denying the fact that a president at 40% approval who's party just got clobbered in a midterm election has a chance of defeat). If she still seriously thinks she will be president and wants to run again, she wouldn't be pinning all of her hopes on Trump getting reelected.

[spurraider21]

Did you weigh in on it prior to her announcement or did you just hang back like you normally do and only pile on when it's a certain outcome?
Lol narratives.

I weighed in time and time again

[Spurtacular]

:lol Bold.

There's these things called variables. I wouldn't expect you to understand. You don't understand nuance either.

[Spurtacular]

You lying piece of shit retarded fuck. No you haven’t.

But here’s your chance. Ready.....go

Who's alt are you?

[Pavlov]

There's these things called variables. I wouldn't expect you to understand. You don't understand nuance either.I understand your stance covered both possibilities and was the complete opposite of bold.

[Spurtacular]

You keep using vague terms like "may or may not" (still don't know what the point of that statement is either, since the only two possible outcomes are her either running or not running, you can take literally any hypothetical event in the future no matter how unlikely and make a true statement that it "may or may not" happen) and "significant chance" because you're trying to create an out for yourself if she doesn't run again.

The fact people were still thinking there was a good chance of her running in 2020 right up until she made an official statement is retarded. She wouldn't have been counseling other candidates (Amy Klobuchar most notably) if she was even considering it, and the people who had a great chance in 2016 and didn't run because they were worried about political backlash for getting in Hillary's way (Warren, Biden, Klobuchar) wouldn't be running now.

The "waiting until 2024" theory also makes zero sense since that could only happen if Trump is re-elected in 2020 (no matter how big of a Trumper you are, there's no denying the fact that a president at 40% approval who's party just got clobbered in a midterm election has a chance of defeat). If she still seriously thinks she will be president and wants to run again, she wouldn't be pinning all of her hopes on Trump getting reelected.

The last time I said she there was a good chance was before the news release that she was counseling Klobuchar. You're making disingenuous arguments to try and start something up.

Forty percent approval? What are you talking about. Not that I put much stock into that stuff, but the headlines I've been seeing is record highs and over 50 percent. And yea, presidents who are good stewards of the economy tend to win re-election. Don't act like this is some sort of long shot. Your entire post is load of dung.

[Spurtacular]

:cry

[Pavlov]

:lmao "nuance"

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1103057225910755329

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1103057225910755329:lol rent free

[DMC]

Lol narratives.

I weighed in time and time again

Examples?

[Chris]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D059kt4U4AAO4xq.jpg:large

[Chucho]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D059kt4U4AAO4xq.jpg:large

:lol

[spurraider21]

Examples?
heres a couple. i also remember mocking comsiccowboy for tracking all the "news stories" of clinton hoping to run again, and mocked the stupid stories of clinton running for mayor of new york. you are free to look those up

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=267472&p=8960098&viewfull=1#post8960098
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266909&p=8934462&viewfull=1#post8934462

[Spurtacular]

heres a couple. i also remember mocking comsiccowboy for tracking all the "news stories" of clinton hoping to run again, and mocked the stupid stories of clinton running for mayor of new york. you are free to look those up

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=267472&p=8960098&viewfull=1#post8960098
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266909&p=8934462&viewfull=1#post8934462

Are the 2024 stories gonna be stupid too?

The 2020 stories were so stupid; it only took Hillary 'til March 5, 2019, pretty much at the deadline to rule out that she wasn't running this time around....


:lmao Lite

[Spurminator]

Are the 2024 stories gonna be stupid too?

The 2020 stories were so stupid; it only took Hillary 'til March 5, 2019, pretty much at the deadline to rule out that she wasn't running this time around....


:lmao Lite

The deadline? :lol

The first Republican candidate for the 2016 election announced his candidacy in late March, 2015.

Fucking Christ, with all of the free time you have from not having a social life, you'd think you could take a couple minutes to look up simple facts before spouting bullshit and embarrassing yourself again and again.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I never said she didn’t want to run. I said she was going to try as hard as she could to convince herself people wanted her to run but in the end there’d be too many voices in her ear telling her not to do it.

:lmao her running in 2024, she’d be 77 years old by election night. That’s an even bigger right wing pipe dream.
Although by that point people might be so fed up with Trump that she'd beat the GOP in a landslide. Since she's old she'd get the old vote and since she's more liberal than the GOP she'd get the millennial vote. The GOP would have a majority with white Gen Xers who liked Trump but that isn't enough to win the election.

[Will Hunting]

Although by that point people might be so fed up with Trump that she'd beat the GOP in a landslide. Since she's old she'd get the old vote and since she's more liberal than the GOP she'd get the millennial vote. The GOP would have a majority with white Gen Xers who liked Trump but that isn't enough to win the election.
2016 proved that millennials are fickle voters who will stay home if given the choice between a GOP candidate and a bland center-right Democrat like Hillary.

Voter turnout is the #1 factor in elections right now because of how polarized American politics currently are. Getting 5-10% more turnout than the other party swings elections way more than the "swing vote" does, and Hillary can't consistently turn out the Democratic vote to save her worthless life.

[Millennial_Messiah]

2016 proved that millennials are fickle voters who will stay home if given the choice between a GOP candidate and a bland center-right Democrat like Hillary.

Voter turnout is the #1 factor in elections right now because of how polarized American politics currently are. Getting 5-10% more turnout than the other party swings elections way more than the "swing vote" does, and Hillary can't consistently turn out the Democratic vote to save her worthless life.

Do you think Bernie would have beaten Trump h2h in 2016?

[Will Hunting]

Do you think Bernie would have beaten Trump h2h in 2016?
I think he def wins Wisconsin/PA/Michigan, but deja vu of a discussion you and I had recently, the race probably comes down to states like Virginia and Nevada where the Dems rely more heavily on a minority base. Would have been very close imo, hard to say how it turns out.

[Spurtacular]

The deadline? :lol

The first Republican candidate for the 2016 election announced his candidacy in late March, 2015.

Fucking Christ, with all of the free time you have from not having a social life, you'd think you could take a couple minutes to look up simple facts before spouting bullshit and embarrassing yourself again and again.

March? Hmm. What fucking month are we in? This is the window in which people announce their intentions. Hillary didn't get out in front of it, dip shit.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I think he def wins Wisconsin/PA/Michigan, but deja vu of a discussion you and I had recently, the race probably comes down to states like Virginia and Nevada where the Dems rely more heavily on a minority base. Would have been very close imo, hard to say how it turns out.

I think Nevada is a blue state tbh. I don't think you can argue purple anymore. Especially after the unexpected landslide in this past November's NV senate race that was supposed to be a 50/50 bloodbath where the GOP incumbent got shellacked in a landslide by a relatively unknown female.

I don't see Colorado going Trump over Bernie when Bernie is the one who identifies with the hippie culture and supports federal 420 legalization.

I also don't think Virginia could get the GOP up to 270 if they lose all those states plus the entire North border.

[ducks]

Trump would have debated Bernie and made him look like a fucking social fool

[Spurminator]

March? Hmm. What fucking month are we in? This is the window in which people announce their intentions. Hillary didn't get out in front of it, dip shit.

You're inventing a timeline because you're new to politics and it's something you're trying to talk about as a substitute for having friends. We are still very early in the timeline for announcing candidacy. Clinton is early in announcing she won't run. This is supported by history. You would know this if you did 5 minutes of research.

[Spurtacular]

You're inventing a timeline because you're new to politics and it's something you're trying to talk about as a substitute for having friends. We are still very early in the timeline for announcing candidacy. Clinton is early in announcing she won't run. This is supported by history. You would know this if you did 5 minutes of research.

There is a window. Hillary didn't deviate. Take your L. Also :lol at the tantrum, though.

[Spurtacular]

I think Nevada is a blue state tbh. I don't think you can argue purple anymore.

It's purple if not red. But the unions control the voting machines; so, it's blue in effect at this point.

[Will Hunting]

You're inventing a timeline because you're new to politics and it's something you're trying to talk about as a substitute for having friends. We are still very early in the timeline for announcing candidacy. Clinton is early in announcing she won't run. This is supported by history. You would know this if you did 5 minutes of research.
:lol even by Derp standards what he’s saying is retarded.

Biden didn’t announce he wasn’t running in 2016 until October 2015, the idea that Hillary waited as long as she possibly could makes no sense.

[Will Hunting]

I think Nevada is a blue state tbh. I don't think you can argue purple anymore. Especially after the unexpected landslide in this past November's NV senate race that was supposed to be a 50/50 bloodbath where the GOP incumbent got shellacked in a landslide by a relatively unknown female.

I don't see Colorado going Trump over Bernie when Bernie is the one who identifies with the hippie culture and supports federal 420 legalization.

I also don't think Virginia could get the GOP up to 270 if they lose all those states plus the entire North border.
If Trump lost the three rust belt states but keeps every other state he won and wins Virginia, he gets to 270. I think you’re right that he wins Colorado in a general but not sure about Nevada.

GOP only lost the senate race in Nevada because of a Rick Perry fuckup iirc. It’s a state that like Arizona appeared more blue than it actually is in 2018 because it has a disproportionately low amount of rural and ex-urban white voters (as oppose to a state like Ohio that’s packed full of 10k - 50k population towns that are 95% white and have a very low percentage of millennials). Find a Republican candidate like GWB who had appeal with suburban voters (not saying I like the guy) and Nevada goes back to being purple.

[Millennial_Messiah]

If Trump lost the three rust belt states but keeps every other state he won and wins Virginia, he gets to 270. I think you’re right that he wins Colorado in a general but not sure about Nevada.

GOP only lost the senate race in Nevada because of a Rick Perry fuckup iirc. It’s a state that like Arizona appeared more blue than it actually is in 2018 because it has a disproportionately low amount of rural and ex-urban white voters (as oppose to a state like Ohio that’s packed full of 10k - 50k population towns that are 95% white and have a very low percentage of millennials). Find a Republican candidate like GWB who had appeal with suburban voters (not saying I like the guy) and Nevada goes back to being purple.

Ohio is usually bundled in with the rust belt but I agree I don't see Ohio going back blue for any general election in the near future. They do keep Sherrod Brown around, though. But like you said, too many Gen X whites outside of the "C" cities. I drove between Cincinnati <----> Columbus twice back and forth on I-71 this past August, and couldn't believe how many bible-themed billboards (anti-abortion, anti-evolution, "the only science that is fact is that God created") there were once you get outside of the city loop.

Arizona is an interesting case. It's got the demographics to go blue like Colorado or Nevada but there is a LOT of money in the Scottsdale, outer Maricopa Co. type filthy-rich white core that somehow keeps the upper hand for the GOP.

[Will Hunting]

Arizona is an interesting case. It's got the demographics to go blue like Colorado or Nevada but there is a LOT of money in the Scottsdale, outer Maricopa Co. type filthy-rich white core that somehow keeps the upper hand for the GOP.
Its millennial and hispanic population is booming though, and it has little to no rural population. Outside of Phoenix, Tucson and Flagstaff (which I'd barely classify as a city) there's almost nothing. For all of the circle jerking about flipping Texas blue Arizona would become blue way before Texas ever does.

[hater]

She's going to continue to speak up for #TheResistance.

yup and each word will win votes for Orange with Hair

[hater]

I'm a fucking retard and eat shuit sandwhiches

whatever works for ya nig :lol

[hater]

If it was three unknown white males + Bernie, she'd probably run again. :lol

yup :lol

[hater]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1103057225910755329

:lmao

[BD24]

whatever works for ya nig :lol
Just own it pussy. You were wrong per par, now eat your shit sandwhich

[The Ref]

:lol even by Derp standards what he’s saying is retarded.

Biden didn’t announce he wasn’t running in 2016 until October 2015, the idea that Hillary waited as long as she possibly could makes no sense.

Yea, and everyone knew it was way too late at that point, anyways, dude.

[Spurtacular]

Yea, and everyone knew it was way too late at that point, anyways, dude.

Also, Biden had pretty much said he was out way before that; and this was a reconsideration announcement.

[hater]

I am a pussy. I was wrong per par, now I'll eat your shit

no thanks niga :lol

[BD24]

no thanks niga :lol
What a chickenshit tbh :lol

[Will Hunting]

Yea, and everyone knew it was way too late at that point, anyways, dude.


Also, Biden had pretty much said he was out way before that; and this was a reconsideration announcement.
:lmao creating a troll to support your own argument

[hater]

Biden must be second guessing himself as well tbqh

He is an old dinosaur and seeing pelotudosi and that other retard Scummer getting obliterated by their own millenial colleages in congress is probably not a pretty sight for his presidential aspirations

[Pavlov]

I guess, but you didn't call this one right.