Lakers: Laker organization crying foul :( [Archive]

callo1

03-06-2019, 12:46 PM

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/252866/Lakers-Executives-Believe-Rival-Teams-Are-Subversively-Damaging-Their-Reputation

Tragic and the Laker organization need hugs. So sad. Being upset because you struck out on trying to steal two superstar players, and now the locker room is a toxic wasteland.

:baby:violin:whine:cry:pimpslap:fishing

djohn2oo8

03-06-2019, 12:53 PM

:lmao

R. DeMurre

03-06-2019, 12:56 PM

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/252866/Lakers-Executives-Believe-Rival-Teams-Are-Subversively-Damaging-Their-Reputation

"....the Lakers complaining because the rest of the league out-lakered them."

R. DeMurre

03-06-2019, 01:00 PM

Jeanie Buss is doing more harm than good by trying to do damage control proclaiming "fake news." It just makes the Lakers look more disingenuous.

baseline bum

03-06-2019, 01:10 PM

Clipper Nation

03-06-2019, 01:57 PM

:lol The Lakers have gone from "you... surrender your franchise player" to :cry "it's not fair, the rest of the league is being mean to us by not giving us their franchise players!" :cry

The Kobe Effect

DAF86

03-06-2019, 02:03 PM

B...b... but all that leverage.

phxspurfan

03-06-2019, 02:16 PM

Lakers executives are doing a great job damaging their own reputations. They need to look in the mirror, as that is one piss-poor organization trying to live on past glory and in being located in the most attractive market in the league. Gotta say it was amazing seeing Russell go from complete bust to allstar once he went to a better organization. Makes me wonder if the Lakers are holding back Ball and Ingram the same way.

I think Ingram and Kuzma have the physical tools to be good in Today's NBA. They have the size of 3s/4s, speed and length to drive and board/defend. They really need a good environment with a healthy locker room and shooting coaches to polish out their weaknesses but have good potential for another team to develop.

Raven

03-06-2019, 02:17 PM

That's just bonkers :lmao.. We weren't gonna sell our whole team for one player!!! As if you could even do that for one player.

Jim Buss

03-06-2019, 02:18 PM

:lmao fuck that cunt

Raven

03-06-2019, 02:19 PM

I think Ingram and Kuzma have the physical tools to be good in Today's NBA. They have the size of 3s/4s, speed and length to drive and board/defend. They really need a good environment with a healthy locker room and shooting coaches to polish out their weaknesses but have good potential for another team to develop.

Ingram doesn't have the speed and Kuzma doesn't have the speed or size to defend their position. They are also beginners at the concepts also. Ingram has the length and that's great, but that's as far as it goes.

Killakobe81

03-06-2019, 02:25 PM

didnt read full article but probably some truth to it ...
But so what?! them's the brakes. no excuses.

However, when new CBA comes up with revenue sharing if I am NY/LA?
I pay the small market teams back for this type of ish

but for now sounds like bitching, moaning and excuse making ...

Raven

03-06-2019, 02:39 PM

Leetonidas

03-06-2019, 02:42 PM

:lol back in the hunt

Killakobe81

03-06-2019, 03:00 PM

on what grounds? It's hard to argue the rest of the teams would get more money if the lakers got nuked.

Im just speaking that when teh topic of revenue sharing comes up if i am contributing the most which Knicks, Lakers and a handful of teams surely are ...
I would not be supportive of the rules in place, which are designed to offset the advantages (bigger market more ad revenue) that helps those team contribute more.

again Lakers/knicks have to do better or it's all moot ...

Raven

03-06-2019, 03:24 PM

Im just speaking that when teh topic of revenue sharing comes up if i am contributing the most which Knicks, Lakers and a handful of teams surely are ...
I would not be supportive of the rules in place, which are designed to offset the advantages (bigger market more ad revenue) that helps those team contribute more.

again Lakers/knicks have to do better or it's all moot ...

it's a very common point of vew, but it doesn't stand to reason imo. The rest of the owners can only profit from the lakers getting nuked, while the league may in theory lose but they would get to offset the losses with the added competitiveness of the league. For example, Lakers pulling a #lakerBegging this year, have triggered at least 6-7 teams to tank. Ironicly enough, the tanking clippers are still enough to beat them :lol

spursistan

03-06-2019, 03:30 PM

Lakers executives are doing a great job damaging their own reputations. They need to look in the mirror, as that is one piss-poor organization trying to live on past glory and in being located in the most attractive market in the league. Gotta say it was amazing seeing Russell go from complete bust to allstar once he went to a better organization. Makes me wonder if the Lakers are holding back Ball and Ingram the same way.

What the hell more they need to do it? They just missed the playoffs for a 6th straight season the last of which with Lebron fuckin' James on the roster. Not even the biggest troll on ST would dare predict it this would happen back in 2010 :lol..

Raven

03-06-2019, 03:41 PM

What the hell more they need to do it? They just missed the playoffs for a 6th straight season the last of which with Lebron fuckin' James on the roster. Not even the biggest troll on ST would dare predict it this would happen back in 2010 :lol..

I predicted them staying out of the playoffs for ten straight years.. granted, i didn't expect lebron of all people to take the fall to save the lakers..

Killakobe81

03-06-2019, 04:14 PM

it's a very common point of vew, but it doesn't stand to reason imo. The rest of the owners can only profit from the lakers getting nuked, while the league may in theory lose but they would get to offset the losses with the added competitiveness of the league. For example, Lakers pulling a #lakerBegging this year, have triggered at least 6-7 teams to tank. Ironicly enough, the tanking clippers are still enough to beat them :lol

in the end its better for us.
Hurts the brand and it may even impact FA ...
But Lebron looks more done than I thought.
Lakers really need to think twice before blowing up the whole franchise for one shot at a title during the Bron years.
Very food chance we dont win ish druing Lebron's tenure.

Good news is with a "accidental tank" lakers coudl fall to 7 with a decent shot at moving up to top 4.

baseline bum

03-06-2019, 04:42 PM

in the end its better for us.
Hurts the brand and it may even impact FA ...
But Lebron looks more done than I thought.
Lakers really need to think twice before blowing up the whole franchise for one shot at a title during the Bron years.
Very food chance we dont win ish druing Lebron's tenure.

Good news is with a "accidental tank" lakers coudl fall to 7 with a decent shot at moving up to top 4.

Bron putting up numbers but damn his defense is shit and nobody wants to cover up for him any more after hearing they were getting shipped off to New Orleans. I'm still laughing at Kuzma shoving him out there to guard Gallinari's shot.

baseline bum

03-06-2019, 04:45 PM

What the hell more they need to do it? They just missed the playoffs for a 6th straight season the last of which with Lebron fuckin' James on the roster. Not even the biggest troll on ST would dare predict it this would happen back in 2010 :lol..

They need to go out there and hire some fucking assistant coaches to work on player development. The Lakers remind me of Steve Lavin's UCLA teams that had tons of raw talent but the players never got any better.

Dex

03-06-2019, 05:18 PM

:cry :cry :cry

First, what standing? They haven't been in the playoffs in five years going on six. They have traded away multiple good prospects and have little value to show for their multiple trips to the lottery. Their savior #1 pick comes with more baggage than Louis Vuitton.

Rival executives didn't make Magic put together one of the most boneheaded rosters imaginable.

Maybe they should quit with the collusion bullshit if they want other teams to respect them.

Killakobe81

03-06-2019, 07:24 PM

They need to go out there and hire some fucking assistant coaches to work on player development. The Lakers remind me of Steve Lavin's UCLA teams that had tons of raw talent but the players never got any better.

Great analogy...

lefty

03-06-2019, 07:34 PM

Fuck Magic and Jeannie

Nepotism backfired

Mr. Body

03-06-2019, 07:46 PM

Nakedly and openly tampering with players on other teams -- one Kawhi Leonard, for example -- and because the league failed to do much about it, other teams are sticking it to them? Get fucked.

ambchang

03-06-2019, 09:40 PM

hater

03-06-2019, 09:52 PM

fuck these putos

Kobe'sAchilles

03-06-2019, 10:58 PM

Tbh they are the worst franchise when it comes to player development. Could just be the city of LA itself is a hard one for young guys to be focused. But D-Bust and Randle were high draft picks that LA wasted and never really developed.

Lonzo is a waste of a pick too. He has talent but his shot is so broken and he refuses to change it. I mean imagine a guy shooting 41% from the free throw line actually having the balls to say to management that his shot is fine and since it's worked for him his whole life it will continue to work for him now in the NBA.

They have no power within the building. And that includes Magic. Nobody saw him play. He doesn't hold the same weight as he once did. I mean Imagine a player telling Pop: hey I know you say my jumper needs to be fixed but I disagree and I'm going to double down by not working on it at all during the offseason. Pop would cuss him out, bench him, cuss out his dad, and then make Lonzo beg to play again.

What LA needs is a Magic to realize he has talent already. Develop it and add real pieces to the team and not shitty players on one year contracts.

I say say all of this just to say :lol at The Lakers whining like bitchs bc they can't steal the best player from franchises anymore. Bbbut we did it with Wilt and Kareem and Shaq. Why can't we have AD? :cry

timtonymanu

03-06-2019, 11:08 PM

They literally thrive on stealing other team's franchise players lol. Now that they actually have to develop from within, they're crying. Suck it up and actually have a plan. Not this super team bullshit year in and year out.

Mugen

03-06-2019, 11:37 PM

How about Rich Paul, LeBron and Magic trying to orchestrate AD getting traded to the Lakers :lol

Old hag Jeanie crying because even dumbass Dell Demps told AD and Klutch to go fuck themselves because they know that trade is still available in the summer...Buss kids are a fucking joke.

Mugen

03-06-2019, 11:53 PM

"Fake news" .....between Jeanie, her retard brother Jimmy, and the rest of the Short Buss family...it's fucking sad/hilarious to see what happens when kids never have to work a day in their life only to grow up with no discernable skills or sense...:lol

Say what you want about Dr. Buss but at least the man worked his way up to owning a professional sports team and banging Vietnamese escorts well into his seventies.....

HarlemHeat37

03-07-2019, 12:32 AM

I don't know how people are just noticing that Jeannie Buss is a cancerous personality..I've been saying this for years:lol she doesn't belong anywhere near an NBA franchise..

DAF86

03-07-2019, 01:51 AM

If They want to blame anyone, blame themselves.

Rich Paul and Lebron tried to strong arm a small market team and it backfired big time. The teams are basically saying no to superstars bending them over backwards and get out of guanranteed deals.

If you want financial security, you sign for a long term deal and honour it. If you have reservations about management and want to have maximum flexibility then sign a shorter term deal. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Teams are not obligated to do whatever a power agent force them to do. Teams doesn’t have to give into the leverage the lakers have everytime. And no, not trading the best player in franchise history for a bunch of scrubs isn’t bad faith. It’s common sense.

The pelicans didn’t leak Davis wanted to be traded. Davis and rich Paul did

If I were the Pelicans I would be like: "look dude, we're not trading you, unless feel like we're getting something we really like. We will try to build the best team possible around you. We hope that's enough to contend, but if not, just stay quiet and wait for free agency to leave wherever you want".

callo1

03-07-2019, 08:39 AM

If They want to blame anyone, blame themselves.

Rich Paul and Lebron tried to strong arm a small market team and it backfired big time. The teams are basically saying no to superstars bending them over backwards and get out of guanranteed deals.

If you want financial security, you sign for a long term deal and honour it. If you have reservations about management and want to have maximum flexibility then sign a shorter term deal. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Teams are not obligated to do whatever a power agent force them to do. Teams doesn’t have to give into the leverage the lakers have everytime. And no, not trading the best player in franchise history for a bunch of scrubs isn’t bad faith. It’s common sense.

The pelicans didn’t leak Davis wanted to be traded. Davis and rich Paul did

Right on. Truth on every point. Well stated.

You know what I find funny is that the media tried to pin the blame on Pop weeks back. I don't doubt that Demps contacted pop. The conversation was probably centered on not folding on a deal of poor value and getting the best value for the franchise.

Essentially the Lakers don't want to be challenged on what they have been doing for years unchecked. Small market teams are now standing their ground and not caving to the Laker pressure, or the pro Laker media pressure, and that is simply unacceptable to Magic and Jeanie, so they have the audacity to cry foul...funny stuff really.

Mr. Body

03-07-2019, 11:49 AM

I believe we do know that Pop and Demps talked. I do think Pop advised not caving.

MultiTroll

03-07-2019, 03:42 PM

Did Buss Sr really do anything differently?

Or has recent NBA simply put a stop to the Laker trade bullshit.
The *great* Dr. Buss:
Kream Alcindor for Dave Meyers. Ya nothing fishy there.
MVPau for Kwame Brown. Most obvious riggin of all time?

Take away those two and I'd say the Lakers are light about 5 titles.

Modern Family Buss:
Chrissy Paul for a bag of chips. -Vetoed.
Kawhi Leonard for scrubs and Pop being given a pair of Magics shorts -denied.
AD for Laker Scrubs -Rest of NBA no longer going along with the con.

Old Buss and corrupt NBA would have jammed these scam deals thru.

R. DeMurre

03-07-2019, 04:19 PM

Waiting for the draft and free agency to happen is the best move for New Orleans-- it gives them the greatest amount of options. At this point, it just makes sense. One perfect example: in the unlikely event that Kawhi agrees to re-sign with Toronto, they're more likely to offer Siakam in a trade for AD. If also gives them the option of sign-and-trades with free agents.

Spurtacular

03-07-2019, 09:26 PM

:lmao Lakers making up narratives for damage control. :lmao

DMC

03-07-2019, 09:37 PM

Man Kobe did a number on that franchise.

DMC

03-07-2019, 09:38 PM

Right on. Truth on every point. Well stated.

You know what I find funny is that the media tried to pin the blame on Pop weeks back. I don't doubt that Demps contacted pop. The conversation was probably centered on not folding on a deal of poor value and getting the best value for the franchise.

Essentially the Lakers don't want to be challenged on what they have been doing for years unchecked. Small market teams are now standing their ground and not caving to the Laker pressure, or the pro Laker media pressure, and that is simply unacceptable to Magic and Jeanie, so they have the audacity to cry foul...funny stuff really.
Which is fucking stupid because of NBA profit sharing, it behooves the other small markets to act as organ donors do the Lakers so they can all eat at the table.

Chucho

03-07-2019, 10:32 PM

Sucks that Kobe ran all the Laker fans off this board except for KK81, Rogelio and that dude who pretends to be a Clips fan but is a Lakers fan... to a shittier franchise and fanbase, it couldn't happen.

basquetbol

03-07-2019, 11:22 PM

"Fake news" .....between Jeanie, her retard brother Jimmy, and the rest of the Short Buss family...it's fucking sad/hilarious to see what happens when kids never have to work a day in their life only to grow up with no discernable skills or sense...:lol

lol, years ago I saw at the lakersground forum that Jeanie will do a good job running the Lakers because she has experience running sports events, apparently, she spearheaded celebrity/pro athlete tennis matches for charity.

AlexJones

03-08-2019, 04:03 AM

Lakers will be relevant before the Spurs

Beartrucci

03-08-2019, 05:15 AM

Lakers will be relevant before the Spurs

Where's PG, Kawhi, AD, and the playoffs? No one wants to play with aging bitter horrible teammate LBJ. I'd honestly like to be wrong because it'd make the league more interesting to have Lake Show competing. Just starting to think players are over LBJ's shit

Trainwreck2100

03-08-2019, 08:07 AM

in the end its better for us.
Hurts the brand and it may even impact FA ...
But Lebron looks more done than I thought.
Lakers really need to think twice before blowing up the whole franchise for one shot at a title during the Bron years.
Very food chance we dont win ish druing Lebron's tenure.

Good news is with a "accidental tank" lakers coudl fall to 7 with a decent shot at moving up to top 4.
:lol Lebron gonna make your team trade whatever pick they get this season

Capt Bringdown

03-08-2019, 08:27 AM

How many years will the rapist's stench haunt this organization?

Killakobe81

03-08-2019, 01:28 PM

How many years will the rapist's stench haunt this organization?

nicca you cant put this on anyone else at the moment ...
Magic is in charge up top and Lebron on the court, nice try.

"lethanos" was supposed to lead and Magic was supposed to put the pieces in place both have failed this year and that has nothing to do with Achilles.
no one (with a brain) was expecting a title but playoffs should have been doable.
Epic fail for both despite the injuries ...

baseline bum

03-08-2019, 04:18 PM

nicca you cant put this on anyone else at the moment ...
Magic is in charge up top and Lebron on the court, nice try.

"lethanos" was supposed to lead and Magic was supposed to put the pieces in place both have failed this year and that has nothing to do with Achilles.
no one (with a brain) was expecting a title but playoffs should have been doable.
Epic fail for both despite the injuries ...

Failure from the young scrubs like Lolnzo, Kuzma, Ingram too. Can't really blame Rondo and Lance for being cancers since Magic signed them knowing who they were. And failure from the entire coaching staff for their garbage player development.