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timvp
03-11-2019, 04:39 AM
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The Spurs extended their winning streak to five games with an exciting win over the Bucks. This was without a doubt one of the very best victories of the season for San Antonio.

Milwaukee entered the game with an NBA best record of 50-16 and showed their mettle early on. Playing on the second night of a back-to-back, the Bucks opened up a 23-9 lead seven minutes into the affair. A few minutes later, former Spur Pau Gasol hit a three-pointer to put the Bucks up 32-17 with two minutes left in the first quarter.

At that point, the Spurs staged one of their many runs in front of their home fans, as an 11-0 outburst following Gasol's three-pointer got the good guys right back in the game. San Antonio fell behind by a dozen points again with three minutes remaining in the first half. This time, the Spurs went on an extended 26-7 run that spanned halftime and gave them a 71-64 lead with eight minutes remaining in the third period.

The Bucks battled back and took a two-point lead, 81-79, with two minutes left in the third. That's when the Spurs delivered the knockout: a 21-5 run over the next six and a half minutes. With a 100-86 lead with seven and a half minutes remaining in the game, San Antonio kept Milwaukee at bay and waltzed to the 121-114 victory.

Sure, the Bucks were probably tired. Yes, the Spurs had extra days of rest before this showdown. But, hey, it was still a great win for a Spurs squad trying to climb the Western Conference standings. At 38-29, the suddenly red-hot Spurs look to be a good bet to extend their playoff streak and are currently tied for the sixth seed. Well done, team.

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LaMarcus Aldridge
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LaMarcus Aldridge played really, really hard. I was impressed. Defensively, he was excellent. He was a beast on the boards, guarded the rim well, kept his hands active in passing lanes and played better than expected defense against Giannis Antetokounmpo. He wasn't perfect on defense but his effort was top notch. Offensively, he was very much involved and did good work. His efficiency was hurt a bit due to a lack of free throws but I thought he was supremely physical, took smart shots and limited his mistakes.
Grade: A
Summary: The Spurs couldn't have asked for much more out of their All-Star bigman.

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DeMar DeRozan
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It wasn't the prettiest game for DeMar DeRozan but it was a well-rounded, encouraging showing. Defensively, this had to be one of his very best performances of the campaign. He was attentive to his individual assignments, moved his feet much better than usual and was mentally locked in. DeRozan's team-defense was also much better than normal, too. Offensively, he provided San Antonio with a consistent attacking force. He was constantly making plays off the dribble that either resulted in a good look for himself or opened opportunities for teammates. DeRozan hit half of his shots from the field for the eighth straight game, shot nine of the team's 15 free throw attempts and turned it over only once in 36 minutes against the NBA's best defensive team. Again, this wasn't his most aesthetically-pleasing game of the season but DeRozan came to play on both ends and played a smart, winning brand of basketball.
Grade: A-
Summary: DeRozan was the engine that made the Spurs go tonight.

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Derrick White
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The good: Derrick White's defense was quite good. He was active on the ball, offered strong help and hustled endlessly on that end. Offensively, he had a strong stretch in the fourth that helped ice the game. His play in the pick-and-roll continues to be a bright spot for the team. The bad: White missed makeable shots early and that negatively impacted his confidence. He started second-guessing his shots, which then caused him to force ill-advised passes. All in all, White's decision-making was out of rhythm for a majority of the game. Even on defense, he made a few unwise decisions in help situations.
Grade: C+
Summary: White wasn't bad but he had trouble staying out of his own way at times.

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Bryn Forbes
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Offensively, Bryn Forbes did his job. He was letting the rock fly whenever he had daylight, drove the ball when the lanes opened, stayed within the sets and played his complementary, floor-spacing role to a tee. Defensively, Forbes gave back some of his value. He got caught out of position too often and got beat off the dribble too often. His transition defense was also notably shaky.
Grade: B
Summary: Forbes was strong on offense, not so much on defense.

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Jakob Poeltl
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Back from a one-game absence due to injury (hamstring), Jakob Poeltl was back in the starting lineup and proved his value. On defense, Poeltl exhibited his mobility and versatility by defending all the way out to the three-point line, which is obviously an important attribute in today's NBA. When he was able to fall back into the paint, his rim protection was strong. I also liked his tenacity on the defensive backboard. Offensively, he wasn't a liability at all. He was setting sturdy screen, finished everything at the rim and kept the Bucks busy by doggedly chasing offensive rebounds. Poeltl also illustrated flashes of being a plus passer with a high basketball IQ. My only critique of his offensive game were his half-hearted rolls to the basket in which he sometimes didn't even attempt to get open.
Grade: A-
Summary: Poeltl is trying to win that full-time starting gig.

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Marco Belinelli
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This is how the Spurs need Marco Belinelli to play. When he comes out firing and causing chaos on offense by expertly moving without the ball, he's a valuable game-changer. Belinelli wasn't especially efficient but the energy boost he gave the team was palpable and very much needed. Defensively, he wasn't too good ... but he might have been slightly above average on the Belinelli scale.
Grade: B+
Summary: Belinelli was loaded for bear and the Spurs were better for it.

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Davis Bertans
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Defensively, Davis Bertans held up rather well. His feet were quick, he challenged shots and wasn't afraid to get his hands dirty in the paint. He had a few miscues rotations-wise but it wasn't for a lack of effort. Offensively, I liked all of Bertans shots and he was sufficiently aggressive. Obviously, his shot-making could have been better. Bertans also provided additional value by using his dribble to punish the Bucks when they went too hard at him in rotation.
Grade: B-
Summary: Bertans did a lot right despite his underwhelming numbers on the statsheet.

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Patty Mills
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Patty Mills came to play. His vivacity helped turn the momentum in the first quarter and he also authored key plays in the fourth that kept Milwaukee from getting back into it. On defense, he was doing all he could to disrupt the proceedings. Mills got overpowered a few times but usually fought hard enough to keep the Bucks from exploiting mismatches. Offensively, Mills pushed the pace well, played better in pick-and-rolls than usual and made solid decisions with the ball. When the Australian plays with this level of vigor, determination and discipline, he's truly one of the better backup point guards in the league.
Grade: A-
Summary: Mills played a key role in the win.

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Pop
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Pop was vicious. He knew there was blood in the water whenever Gasol stepped on the court for the Bucks and he relentlessly attacked him by putting him pick-and-rolls virtually every time down the court. Gasol has lost all his mobility and Pop wasn't bashful about exploiting that fact. I also was very pleased that Poeltl was put back in the starting lineup even though the Spurs were facing a small, speedy team. The only flaw in the rotation was Pop going back to bad habits by putting in Dante Cunningham for a four-minute stretch in a misguided attempt to slow the Greek Freak.
Grade: A-
Summary: Pop didn't hesitate to use insider knowledge to sink the Bucks.

Looking ahead: Very good win. The momentum is now surging in the right direction again.

On Tuesday, the Spurs travel to Dallas to take on the Mavericks. The Mavs have lost five straight but they've had close losses as of late and always seem to play the Spurs close at home. This won't be a gimme road win but it's one San Antonio needs to get to stay on track.

tbdog
03-11-2019, 05:29 AM
You can't blame Pop going with Cunningham. He had to do something. We didn't have gay and Cunningham wasn't a total disaster. When he realised it wasn't going to work, he pulled the plug and gave someone some extra rest. Also, this was one of the best Spurs game this season. Minus those first 6 or so minutes in the first, it felt like we were the better team. Our shot wasn't falling early and we kept at it.

John B
03-11-2019, 05:31 AM
Thanks for the grades Timvp. Easily one of the biggest games and Spurs came out to play. I was worried early down by 15pts. Easily the Bucks were more athletic. But the Spurs kept digging. and finally shots started sinking. We celebrate Whites’ recent development as near mvp turnaround effect. But I feel that Poeltl’s rim protection and relentless offensive rebounding were equally important. Suddenly those blew by from Mills, Forbes were no longer automatic layups with Poeltl covering the rim. His tenacity is infectious. I would’ve like Demar to pass that alley-off to Poeltl next time when trapped instead of forcing it. Great win!

r0drig0lac
03-11-2019, 05:32 AM
Demar has played high-level defense in the last games and extremely smart offensively, if this is the new Derozan, I like that.

vavvi
03-11-2019, 06:15 AM
Pau Gasol – A+ tbh

every time he entered the game, Spurs went on a run. -20 in 15 min. Bud gave us a favor playing him that much

sananspursfan21
03-11-2019, 06:18 AM
Great win. Great job defensively on Giannis. He’s pretty indefensible but making him give up the ball and playing keep away is a pretty good start

vavvi
03-11-2019, 06:19 AM
LA won this one for us. His D on the Freak was solid.

also liked Pop going to Belli-Mills to end the game. I feel like he’s starting to look at Forbes more realistically

Namundy
03-11-2019, 06:22 AM
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monty4329
03-11-2019, 06:39 AM
Beli superclutch, scored massive shots.

Bucks were sleepwalking on the second half, you could see they had no legs.

Credit to Pop to finally rein in DDR.

Let's see now how we fare next away game.

Spurs Homer
03-11-2019, 08:56 AM
I might be wrong - but it felt like -

Pau enters game - Spurs go on a run

Forbes enters game - Bucks go on a run

Was good to see all the Spurs going to Pau after the game and showing respect and Pau was gracious.

MoSpur02
03-11-2019, 09:02 AM
Great overall team win. Bucks were on the second of a back to back, but still a good win. I was impressed with Derozan's persistence on offense because it actually worked out. He was frustrated with a non-call that he had reason to be, but this time kept his cool. Aldridge was a beast throughout the game. Belinelli and Mills did their thing off the bench, which the team desperately needed. Poeltl's game last night was solid all the way around.

My MVP was coach Bud though. When I saw Gasol getting off the bench I joked with the next to me that Gasol was the key to a Spurs victory because the Spurs were going to go on a run and they did. Gasol sucks and each time he was inserted into the game the Spurs made somewhat of a run. Shout-out to Coach Bud.

Play Boban
03-11-2019, 10:10 AM
I saw Start Poeltl all season and I'm right.......

vavvi
03-11-2019, 10:42 AM
I might be wrong - but it felt like -

Pau enters game - Spurs go on a run

Forbes enters game - Bucks go on a run

Was good to see all the Spurs going to Pau after the game and showing respect and Pau was gracious.

You’re not wrong. That’s exactly how it was

8FOR!3
03-11-2019, 11:25 AM
We got rocked early and I'm surprised we were able to climb our way back with so much ease against a team as good as Milwaukee. I do think losing Pau automatically makes us a better team (I hate to say that bc obviously his former teammates like and respect him) but he just doesn't have the ability to move on the court like he needs to.

R. DeMurre
03-11-2019, 11:41 AM
In Poeltl's last four games, he has averaged 26 mpg and the Spurs are 4-0 in those games. Letting Pau go was very good for Poeltl.

Kobe'sAchilles
03-11-2019, 11:58 AM
I might be wrong - but it felt like -

Pau enters game - Spurs go on a run

Forbes enters game - Bucks go on a run

Was good to see all the Spurs going to Pau after the game and showing respect and Pau was gracious.

Advanced stats say that Pau is still a really good defender especially as a rim protector. He might be a little bit slower in the pic n roll but he is far from a net negative. You have to remember that last year he was our best defender and we were the #1 defensive team, so any run the Spurs went on while he was out there was purely a coincidence.

Also advanced stats show that Forbes is only slightly a negative on defense. He's basically even when it comes to defense and his offense more than makes up for the few deficiencies he does have. His pairing with Demar is also a huge net positive for the Spurs so you have to take that into consideration for him. So any run the bucks might have gone on while he was in the game was also purely coincidental.

I know now everyone wants to shit on Pau and Forbes but advanced stats don't lie guys. They are both positive players who bring a lot to their respective teams.

GusT15
03-11-2019, 12:24 PM
Advanced stats say that Pau is still a really good defender especially as a rim protector. He might be a little bit slower in the pic n roll but he is far from a net negative. You have to remember that last year he was our best defender and we were the #1 defensive team, so any run the Spurs went on while he was out there was purely a coincidence.

Also advanced stats show that Forbes is only slightly a negative on defense. He's basically even when it comes to defense and his offense more than makes up for the few deficiencies he does have. His pairing with Demar is also a huge net positive for the Spurs so you have to take that into consideration for him. So any run the bucks might have gone on while he was in the game was also purely coincidental.

I know now everyone wants to shit on Pau and Forbes but advanced stats don't lie guys. They are both positive players who bring a lot to their respective teams.

Did you get into an argument with Chinook lately and now you are trying to shit all over his basketball takes?

Cause that really sounds like Chinook and if you are trying to do that put the blue font up man this shit is confusing! :lol

ceperez
03-11-2019, 12:39 PM
Advanced stats say that Pau is still a really good defender especially as a rim protector. He might be a little bit slower in the pic n roll but he is far from a net negative. You have to remember that last year he was our best defender and we were the #1 defensive team, so any run the Spurs went on while he was out there was purely a coincidence.

Also advanced stats show that Forbes is only slightly a negative on defense. He's basically even when it comes to defense and his offense more than makes up for the few deficiencies he does have. His pairing with Demar is also a huge net positive for the Spurs so you have to take that into consideration for him. So any run the bucks might have gone on while he was in the game was also purely coincidental.

I know now everyone wants to shit on Pau and Forbes but advanced stats don't lie guys. They are both positive players who bring a lot to their respective teams.

In today's NBA, a players liability on defense gets attacked. So when Pau was on the court, the Spurs took advantage.

Kobe'sAchilles
03-11-2019, 12:41 PM
Did you get into an argument with Chinook lately and now you are trying to shit all over his basketball takes?

Cause that really sounds like Chinook and if you are trying to do that put the blue font up man this shit is confusing! :lol

There may be some slight sarcasm in my posts directed towards Chinook :lol

GusT15
03-11-2019, 12:46 PM
There may be some slight sarcasm in my posts directed towards Chinook :lol

:lmao:lmao

What makes it even funnier is other posters replying to all that with a straight face :lol

r0drig0lac
03-11-2019, 12:47 PM
Advanced stats say that Pau is still a really good defender especially as a rim protector. He might be a little bit slower in the pic n roll but he is far from a net negative. You have to remember that last year he was our best defender and we were the #1 defensive team, so any run the Spurs went on while he was out there was purely a coincidence.

Also advanced stats show that Forbes is only slightly a negative on defense. He's basically even when it comes to defense and his offense more than makes up for the few deficiencies he does have. His pairing with Demar is also a huge net positive for the Spurs so you have to take that into consideration for him. So any run the bucks might have gone on while he was in the game was also purely coincidental.

I know now everyone wants to shit on Pau and Forbes but advanced stats don't lie guys. They are both positive players who bring a lot to their respective teams.

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FkLA
03-11-2019, 12:55 PM
Man, if DeMar stopped stopped worrying about upholding his scorer/closer image, and just focused on playmaking+take what the defense gives him he'd be such a better player. His playmaking was huge with White having an off game.

Mugen
03-11-2019, 12:56 PM
Bud with the A+++++ since he actually played Pau 15minutes, pretty much the only reason the Spurs were able to crawl out of the early hole and get the W.

I'd argue that Bud has done more for the Spurs franchise since 2014, what a fucking great soldier that has bailed out PATFO so many times now.

Ed Helicopter Jones
03-11-2019, 04:16 PM
Whenever you can beat the team with the best record, regardless of who played last night or other circumstances, it's a good win.

The last 5 games have been pretty gratifying after that horrible rodeo trip.

wildbill2u
03-11-2019, 04:23 PM
Advanced stats show LMA and DDr with minus numbers. Apparently these stats show that Mills with +23, bErtans with +19 and Marco with +9 were the stars of this win. Go figure.

Coach X
03-11-2019, 07:26 PM
What a season! This is a f*****g rollercoaster. I thought we were done after Brooklyn's game, the team looked emotionally done. Somehow they recovered the good play and here they are playing the best defense of their season. I have no idea about what to expect for the upcoming games.

Yesterday Spurs executed beautifully the defensive plan. Quick transition D with at least two players in the paint in the way between Giannis and the rim. Aldridge putting his body between every Giannis penetration and the basket in order to force him to take a contested shot or make a contested outlet pass. Poetl being able to control Lopez but also help out in the paint. Small players perfectly positioned attacking drivers dribbling, crowding the paint and quickly going out to close out on shooters. Finally, not doubling on Bledsoe and Middleton 1on1 so Bucks couldn't get into his offensive rhythm.

This Spurs team doesn't have the personnel to play great defense but they were focused and disciplined yesterday. Milwaukee's 3rd game in 4 nights vs the 3 days of rest the Spurs enjoyed has to be considered a key of the game.

Also noticeable the best defensive game from Demar DeRozan as a Spur. Not very tested in 1on1 but good in transition D, very active in short helps vs dribbling and locked in p&r defense. He deflected, stole and contested more often than ever. A few more games like this before the season ends would be encouraging. Sadly, I won't be surprised by a bad defensive game from DeRozan in Dallas as Rome wasn't built in a day. Step by step.

tonski17
03-11-2019, 08:24 PM
Thanks timvp! the spurs found out that it is better to guard Gianis with a big guy because he is going hard to the rim almost all the time. LA guarding him made him exert effort to bang with LA and was also bothered by the shot blocking presence of LA. Credit to the whole team for playing good team defense. This shows that the Spurs could compete with the best teams in the league

spurs10
03-11-2019, 08:28 PM
Muchisimas gracias for the grades! A great win by any measure! I felt good about going into the game with our recent four game run. However with Rudy out and the Bucks great season there were no guarantees. The team paced themselves and keep coming at them...especially Gasol. Gotta do what ya gotta do. They should bring some mojo into the Dallas game!!
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GusT15
03-11-2019, 08:34 PM
Thanks timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8)! the spurs found out that it is better to guard Gianis with a big guy because he is going hard to the rim almost all the time. LA guarding him made him exert effort to bang with LA and was also bothered by the shot blocking presence of LA. Credit to the whole team for playing good team defense. This shows that the Spurs could compete with the best teams in the league

A lot of teams have tried to defend Giannis with a big guy! Utah with Gobert,the Nets with Allen,Kings with Stein etc.He was dunking all over them.

It only works if the big guy is build like a tank and tries his best to stay mobile and in the right defensive positioning.Huge props to LMA,when he is focused he is a joy of a big man to watch.

RC_Drunkford
03-11-2019, 08:38 PM
There may be some slight sarcasm in my posts directed towards Chinook :lol

Chinook is an idiot who acts smart cause all he relies on is numbers. So to defeat his ass in a discussion you would have to dig up a bunch of video material, which nobody has the time to do. It's much easier to go to bballref and copy numbers. That's what he does

UnWantedTheory
03-12-2019, 01:29 AM
Chinook is an idiot who acts smart cause all he relies on is numbers. So to defeat his ass in a discussion you would have to dig up a bunch of video material, which nobody has the time to do. It's much easier to go to bballref and copy numbers. That's what he does
Chinook is far from an idiot in my opinion bruh. He is clearly above average intelligence and a pretty informative poster most of the time. With that said, he does become stubbornly locked into numbers and his takes at times, but then again, we are all guilty of that in one way or another.

UnWantedTheory
03-12-2019, 01:31 AM
A lot of teams have tried to defend Giannis with a big guy! Utah with Gobert,the Nets with Allen,Kings with Stein etc.He was dunking all over them.

It only works if the big guy is build like a tank and tries his best to stay mobile and in the right defensive positioning.Huge props to LMA,when he is focused he is a joy of a big man to watch.
Agreed. When he is on, the dude elevates this team a great deal and it is definitely more entertaining to watch. It seems he isn't a whiny vag anymore which is also good.