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timvp
03-13-2019, 06:04 AM
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The Spurs were able to string together their sixth consecutive victory on Tuesday night in Dallas by a final score of 112-105. This is San Antonio's longest winning streak of the season and their 39-29 record is good enough for sole ownership of the sixth seed in the Western Conference.

The game against the Mavericks played out as expect. It was a reasonably close contest throughout as the two rivals battled in the trenches. The Spurs are now 3-0 against the Mavs but have won those three games by a combined 16 points.

With San Antonio's lead only three points with five minutes remaining, the Spurs got a strong finishing push -- particularly by DeMar DeRozan and Derrick White. Considering this team's struggles on the road, it was great to see the Spurs execute on both ends down the stretch to put another notch in the win column.

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LaMarcus Aldridge
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The good: Offensively, LaMarcus Aldridge did a lot right. He was physical in the low post and wasn't bashful about overpowering undersized defenders. He did masterful work of using power moves to eventually create room for his jumpers. Defensively, he was active to close out the game. The bad: For the first three and a half quarters, Aldridge's defense was severely underwhelming. He was often slow to help, didn't provide much resistance in the paint, wasn't closing out to shooters well and didn't hit the defensive boards hard enough. Offensively, Aldridge's awareness wasn't as sharp as usual, as the Mavs were able to surprise him with double-teams on multiple occasions.
Grade: B+
Summary: Aldridge did well even though he wasn't totally locked in.

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DeMar DeRozan
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DeMar DeRozan looked great physically. He was quick, bouncy and powerful with his moves. In retrospect, it's now clear that DeRozan wasn't healthy during his January doldrums. Watching him move now is night and day in comparison. Against the Mavs, DeRozan's help-defense was top notch and he was mostly a positive in one-on-one situations. Don't look now but DeRozan is starting to put together some quality defensive performances. Offensively, I have no complaints. DeRozan poured in 33 points on 19 shots, unselfishly created shots for others, relentlessly attacked the rim and rarely settled for anything that wasn't a very good look. I was also impressed with how he played down the stretch. Not only did DeRozan make key shots, he played within the offense, let Derrick White do a lot of the quarterbacking and played at a smart, steady pace. It's clear he's learned from some of his struggles on the Rodeo Road Trip and no longer is looking to rely on inefficient hero ball during money time.
Grade: A
Summary: DeRozan is playing some of his best basketball of the season.

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Derrick White
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Whoa. Derrick White was straight up beastly at times tonight. Scoring-wise, White was unstoppable in the first half, scoring 16 points on 7-for-9 shooting from the floor. He patiently got wherever he wanted and shot the ball with confidence. Throughout the game, White's passing was also excellent. He orchestrated pick-and-rolls exceedingly well and flashed his impressive court vision with pinpoint crosscourt passes. On defense, White was fantastic against Luka Doncic. Honestly, he embarrassed the Slovenian. White moved his feet very well, was physical and challenged shots. Yes, part of it was the rookie just having a bad game but White made life difficult for Doncic from the opening tip. The only knock against White tonight was his iffy help-defense. He was so locked into his individual matchup that his rotations suffered as a result.
Grade: A
Summary: White played like he was the star in the making.

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Bryn Forbes
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Offensively, Bryn Forbes was about average. This was his first game since the Rodeo Road Trip that he went without a three-pointer but he stayed aggressive, found some success within the three-point stripe and his passes were helpful at times. Where Forbes struggles was on defense -- shocking, I know. While it wasn't totally his fault that Jalen Brunson scored 34 points, Forbes certainly didn't help the matters. He was soft when guarding man-to-man and his decisions in rotation left a lot to be desired and resulted in a handful of open three-point looks for the Mavs.
Grade: C
Summary: Offense okay. Defense not okay.

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Jakob Poeltl
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Jakob Poeltl was in the opening lineup again and did well enough in his 29 minutes to keep his starting gig. On defense, I liked his determination going after rebounds and he upped the difficulty level of a notable number of shots and passes. However, Poeltl's mobility wasn't as fluid as usual and it showed up most strikingly on transition defense and when caught on smaller players. On offense, his basketball IQ continues to shine. Poeltl's not a seven-foot stiff; he understands the art of ball-movement and what he needs to do to fit in. Recently, he has a bad habit of halfheartedly rolling to the basket after setting a screen and hanging the ballhandler out to dry ... and, unfortunately, that continued versus Dallas.
Grade: B
Summary: Poeltl is showing he's ready for the expanded role.

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Davis Bertans
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Davis Bertans was a difference-maker. He was playing with the itchy trigger finger that he needs to be at his best. Bertans understood he was the best shooter on the court and let it fly when he had a free look at the rim. In addition to his trio of three-pointers, Bertans drew oohs and aahs with a thunderous slam on a strong drive down the lane. With the Latvian hunting for buckets, the spacing he created made the offense flow so much better. Defensively, Bertans was strong on the boards, held up well in the paint and extended his D to the three-point line with ease.
Grade: A
Summary: Bertans played exactly how he needs to play.

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Marco Belinelli
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Marco Belinelli played like he was trying to take the most difficult shots possible. He never looked comfortable yet didn't hesitate to try another superduper leaner. Admirable at some level, I guess. Defensively, Belinelli wasn't helping out much but he also wasn't a glaring burden. All in all, though, the Spurs need him to play smarter. Belinelli needs to fire away but he doesn't need to search out the shots with the highest possible degree of difficulty.
Grade: D+
Summary: Belinelli was too, uh, ambitious tonight.

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Patty Mills
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Patty Mills didn't do a whole lot right against the Mavs. Defensively, he was a liability. There was no one to hide him on and Dallas noticed. Offensively, he wasn't a whole lot better. I wouldn't say Mills lacked energy tonight but he also wasn't overflowing with enthusiasm as he is when he's at his best.
Grade: D+
Summary: Mills was ineffective.

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Pop
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With Rudy Gay missing his second straight game with an illness, Pop was down to eight players who know what they're doing. With that in mind, he did pretty well. Add in the fact that he's trying to limit White's minutes and it's definitely a juggling act right now. I thought he made the right call by giving extended minutes to Poeltl and Bertans -- and didn't look to Dante Cunningham for minutes. However, Pop putting Mills in the closing lineup was definitely a head-scratcher.
Grade: B+
Summary: Pop pushed enough right buttons.

Looking ahead: Good win. Impressive winning streak.

Next up, the Spurs get two days of rest before beginning a four-game homestand. First up is the Knicks on Friday. Needless to say, the Spurs have some revenge to serve in the AT&T Center. Serve it cold, boys.

sananspursfan21
03-13-2019, 06:14 AM
Great win. Dallas is one of those teams this year with not a lot of wins, but will give anyone fits. I hate how good they’ll be in the future. Especially if they attract another star or two.

Twisted_Dawg
03-13-2019, 06:31 AM
Thanks for the fine work Timvp. Well appreciated as always.

Eubanks, 3 minutes 3 rebounds and 1 assist?
Incomplete grade?

vavvi
03-13-2019, 06:33 AM
One of the few times this season I don't agree with the grades.

I thought we played really poorly. We barely won against a bad team with their best player going 1 of 7 from 3 and 1 of 9 from FT line and having 9 TOs.
I didn't like coaching at all. I would go with C- for Pop:
1. I watched a lot of Mavs games this season. Spurs was the only opponent who didn't attack Dirk time and time again (like we did with Pau). I was shocked we didn't do it. Paying some respect for the elders or what was that?!
2. We played way too many minutes our big line-up. I thought if Bertans played more and Poeltl/LA played less we would sealed the game much earlier.
3. Another random scrub getting career high being checked by Forbes and Patty. No adjustment from Pop even for a short stretch to shake off the guy's momentum.

r0drig0lac
03-13-2019, 07:06 AM
84/14/16/8 for the big three

Coach X
03-13-2019, 07:16 AM
Thanks timvp for the grades. I appreciate the quality time you put on them.

Certainly, Mills played bad and it's hard to understand why Pop let him in the floor in the final minutes. I guess Pop considers Patty is in the closing unit. Brunson's 34 points aren't only on Forbes and Mills' shoulders. I have to disagree with Poetl's grade. IMO, again he was too soft playing defense in the paint, slow and inefficient helping out. He also missed a few p&r and screen covers. I can't really blame him but either can't ignore that he was slow closing out on 3pt shooters. If one or two of these three had played just decent defense, then the Spurs had had a quiet night.

The game was on the Doncic-White match up. When Doncic had Derrick guarding him, Mavs offense got stuck. Carlisle played hide&seek with Luka's rotation trying to play him with White on the bench and it worked for short stretches, keeping the Mavs alive on the scoreboard. Doncic played with pain and it helped, we won't watch him missing so many FT again. Give credit to White's defense as well.

With Derrick being able of guarding the rival main creator in a single cover, DeRozan's defense simplifies a lot as he mainly has to stay on position getting ready for a short closeout/cut the forced pass. He's understanding this and becoming more and more efficient. Though Demar struggles when he's the man doubling, helping out, and he still has to improve in this area of the defense. It's great news for the team he's having these positive feelings playing defense as that will motivate him to keep improving.

I like what Popovich did in the clutch, allowing White to play p&r and lead the offense. Regarding the ball distribution in the final minutes, I don't think players take the decision of who's going to make the play as there is a coach doing that job (in pre-game meeting the team usually talks briefly about it but in last 6 minutes timeouts, the assistants and coaches order/suggest the playcalling). Players decide if they are taking the designated shot or not once the planned play has been executed. Spurs usually play DeRozan a lot because Popovich wants it and yesterday they played Derrick-Aldridge p&r for the same reason. It was good recognition by Pop, the Mavs didn't have an answer for that p&r all night long and Derrick had been looking good offensively all the game. Except for Bertans, shooters were off so there were no sets for them in the final minutes. Interesting Popovich didn't call too many timeouts in the final minutes, just talking to the players on the go, allowing them to play through the emotions. It was a positive growing experience for the team to play under pressure on the road.

Good win.

Play Boban
03-13-2019, 07:41 AM
I told you start Poeltl and no one listened until now tbh........

ZeusWillJudge
03-13-2019, 07:52 AM
I told you start Poeltl and no one listened until now tbh........


Pop finally heard you, huh?

Strategic
03-13-2019, 07:54 AM
Thanks for the grades. Derrick White just wow. His court awareness, proper foot work and heady decisions should certainly land him some league defensive awards. He also flashes superior offensive skills and I like his timid approach. I’d rather see this than him jacking several bad shots a game. Team is rounding nicely into shape. Who knows how the playoff cards shall fall.

TDomination
03-13-2019, 08:05 AM
There are 2 things I am excited about after this game:

1) Pop making White run the show late in the 4th. A couple times DDR did it but for the most part it was White. And the execution was great. White's bball IQ is pretty high. He seems to know where the ball needs to go in those situations.

2) That we are doing well without Rudy Gay. Earlier on in the year he was needed for us to win. And that scared most of us only because we know how injury prone he is. But if we are able to win with or without him thats great news. Obviously he adds another dimension to our team when healthy so hopefully he's good for the playoffs. But in games like this, i'm glad he's not as relied upon as before. And i believe a lot of has to do with D White.

r0drig0lac
03-13-2019, 08:05 AM
I would like to see Bertans substitute Forbes in the starting lineup

TDomination
03-13-2019, 08:06 AM
Davis Bertans
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Davis Bertans was a difference-maker. He was playing with the itchy trigger finger that he needs to be at his best. Bertans understood he was the best shooter on the court and let it fly when he had a free look at the rim. In addition to his trio of three-pointers, Bertans drew oohs and aahs with a thunderous slam on a strong drive down the lane. With the Latvian hunting for buckets, the spacing he created made the offense flow so much better. Defensively, Bertans was strong on the boards, held up well in the paint and extended his D to the three-point line with ease.
Grade: A
Summary: Bertans played exactly how he needs to play.



Go Bertans Go!


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ZeusWillJudge
03-13-2019, 08:15 AM
Thanks for the grades. You mentioned White's patience. That's what has been impressing me for some time now. He works his way to the right spot on the floor. Not just to put up shots, but the right place to make the right pass. He chages pace fluidly, to give defenders time to rotate so that his passing lane is there. Recently he's been throwing in more misdirection - pump fakes, pass fakes, etc. He's not perfect, but he has become a legitimate PG, and not just a SG who got stuck with that duty.

If he learns how to use the pump fake to get guys in the air and draw fouls, he's going to be a terror on both ends of the floor.

Play Boban
03-13-2019, 08:29 AM
Pop finally heard you, huh?

At least he's taking my advice, which is more than I could say for you tbh........

Brazil
03-13-2019, 08:43 AM
Thanks OP for the grades, it is really appreciated.

Very solid win tbh

LaMarcus Bryant
03-13-2019, 08:56 AM
Derrick White :wow:wow:wow

weeks
03-13-2019, 09:08 AM
zeuswilljudge = dpg??

Trill Clinton
03-13-2019, 09:16 AM
Good game and impressive win.

superbigtime
03-13-2019, 09:26 AM
unimpressive lucky win. No-name Jalen Brunson went off with no adjustments made, per par. Fortunate that Doncic had one of the shittiest games I have ever seen. The Mavs SUCK but next year look out. The T on Demar was stupid, and am glad he didn't lose his shit over it.

ZeusWillJudge
03-13-2019, 09:34 AM
unimpressive lucky win. No-name Jalen Brunson went off with no adjustments made, per par. Fortunate that Doncic had one of the shittiest games I have ever seen. The Mavs SUCK but next year look out. The T on Demar was stupid, and am glad he didn't lose his shit over it.


White did an incredible job on Doncic. But even if he does that every game next year, who is going to handle Porzingis? And that duo may be enough to get some FA's to come and chase a ring. If the Mavs play their cards right, they could be serious contenders next year and for years after that.

Collins21
03-13-2019, 09:45 AM
White did an incredible job on Doncic. But even if he does that every game next year, who is going to handle Porzingis? And that duo may be enough to get some FA's to come and chase a ring. If the Mavs play their cards right, they could be serious contenders next year and for years after that.


What is the obsession with people thinking Porzingis is a game changer? Dude is injury prone and overrated. I'd take prime Lamarcus over Porzingis any day. The only reason people here love the dude is because this site has a hard for Euro scrubs.

elbamba1
03-13-2019, 10:04 AM
I know Eubanks only played 3 minutes but I thought he played great during that time. He altered a layup and had a few boards. I certainly prefer him over Gasol who played with no life. Eubanks will likely never be better than a 5 -10 minute reserve, but I am happy to see him having a small impact on the game.

rjv
03-13-2019, 10:35 AM
have to agree on mills. even someone who wasn't looking to grade his defensive efforts would have noticed how horrible his effort was.

superbigtime
03-13-2019, 11:02 AM
What is the obsession with people thinking Porzingis is a game changer? Dude is injury prone and overrated. I'd take prime Lamarcus over Porzingis any day. The only reason people here love the dude is because this site has a hard for Euro scrubs.

because he is good for 35 points and 5 blocks on any given night.

MoSpur02
03-13-2019, 11:03 AM
Great overall game by Derozan. He's looked so much better lately. I guess he was hurt. I thought he was going to end up scoring like 40 points with that start he had. Still this game should have been won by at least 12-15 points. I'm not going to be picky at this point. I'll take this 6th win in a row.

Kobe'sAchilles
03-13-2019, 11:03 AM
White is learning how to think 2-3 steps ahead on offense and I love it. He's already at the level where he sees a teammate open on the wing but also sees the rotate man cheating a bit in the corner and will make the 2nd pass option to his teammate in the corner instead of the wing which completely catches the defender off guard and allows a wide open shot/drive.

Also once White learns how to initiate contact more on his pump fakes, he will be beyond deadly. Luckily for him, he can learn from perhaps the 2nd best player in the league at drawing contact in Demar. The Spurs desperately need a 3rd person who can consistently get to the line and get us free points.

White reminded me of a poor man's James Harden in the G-League and I'm so glad his game transferred over into the NBA. What I didn't know was how great a defender he is. I guess him averaging so many blocks in college was no fluke.

XDT76
03-13-2019, 11:33 AM
What is the obsession with people thinking Porzingis is a game changer? Dude is injury prone and overrated. I'd take prime Lamarcus over Porzingis any day. The only reason people here love the dude is because this site has a hard for Euro scrubs.

U see what a 40+ years old Dirk did today? Now picture him 12 years younger, faster and taller.

TheGreatYacht
03-13-2019, 11:41 AM
I would like to see Bertans substitute Forbes in the starting lineup
Bertans is not a starter folks just don't learn. We're undefeated since he got benched, after going like 3-10 with him starting...

TheGreatYacht
03-13-2019, 11:44 AM
What is the obsession with people thinking Porzingis is a game changer? Dude is injury prone and overrated. I'd take prime Lamarcus over Porzingis any day. The only reason people here love the dude is because this site has a hard for Euro scrubs.
Absolute facts :lol

"35 & 5 blocks on any single night" :lmao

I'd take the duo of Young and Collins over them any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

John B
03-13-2019, 11:47 AM
Go Bertans Go!


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Thanks for the grades Timvp. Happy for the grueling win. But this slam summed it up for me. Davis has really expanded his game.

wildbill2u
03-13-2019, 12:14 PM
The thing I have noticed about Bertans is that nobody gets him the ball when he rolls off a P&R. He often gets a step on his defender and if the guard would just put the ball up high he could be an asset going to the hoop. Been happening for years. Does he have terrible hands or something. If I was him, I'd be talking to someone about it.

monty4329
03-13-2019, 12:19 PM
This wasn't a good win at all. Doncic was on one leg, but White certainly defended superbly. And that was it, basically. Everything else was quite shitty, for both teams. Mavs can't stop anybody with the lineups they are forced to play, especially guards. In fact both White and DDR could go to the basket anytime they wanted. Unfortunately, this was true also for Brunson (BTW he is good, he played well the whole season).

It is the norm with the Spurs especially on away games, but I still find it unacceptable to go up double digits against bad teams only to let them get back into the game a lose it or risk losing it. Two Dallas shots were in-and-out the last 90 seconds.

The only good thing is that White got the ball at closing even if DDR was having a good shooting night (only the shooting, nothing else) thanks to the non-existent Mavs defense.

Hopefully the coming home game against the worse team in the league will allow trying some new funky defenses and maybe play more Eubanks -he needs some minutes if Pop wants him to help down the stretch.

I was hoping Clippers would win, to try going for 6th seed -Utah will run away, the only hope is Portland losing steam.

monty4329
03-13-2019, 12:21 PM
The thing I have noticed about Bertans is that nobody gets him the ball when he rolls off a P&R. He often gets a step on his defender and if the guard would just put the ball up high he could be an asset going to the hoop. Been happening for years. Does he have terrible hands or something. If I was him, I'd be talking to someone about it.

Because he doesn't jump. I've seen him few times get the ball inside and be plastered. He is not a threat on the roll, but he is a good screen setter so he makes the screen and rolls away towards the corners or to set another screen.

peacemaker885
03-13-2019, 01:10 PM
Good game. Mavs under Rick Carlisle will always be competitive.

pookenstein
03-13-2019, 02:07 PM
timvp, I think that was the first grades thread where you failed to call the Spurs the "good guys". Have you quit on the team? Did your uncle write the grades? Do you demand to be traded to Lakersground?

Spur|n|Austin
03-13-2019, 02:14 PM
Great game from the charity stripe last night, and all season really.

Play Boban
03-13-2019, 02:37 PM
White did an incredible job on Doncic. But even if he does that every game next year, who is going to handle Porzingis? And that duo may be enough to get some FA's to come and chase a ring. If the Mavs play their cards right, they could be serious contenders next year and for years after that.

Truth nuke. I'd rather have the Mavs roster than ours right now.

Just imagine if they signed Boban as backup center, too. :wow

phxspurfan
03-13-2019, 02:40 PM
Pop probably had Mills in there in crunch time to try and see if he can hit a clutch bucket or two. But he didn't, so the decision looked worse. To be fair, even though his defense has been really bad this year, he has had the tendency to hit clutch buckets for the team.

phxspurfan
03-13-2019, 02:41 PM
Truth nuke. I'd rather have the Mavs roster than ours right now.

Just imagine if they signed Boban as backup center, too. :wow

Mavs future is definitely bright with those two for sure. Cuban knew when he was doing getting Doncic, and getting the Unicorn in that trade was FO of the year material.

slick'81
03-13-2019, 03:35 PM
Pop probably had Mills in there in crunch time to try and see if he can hit a clutch bucket or two. But he didn't, so the decision looked worse. To be fair, even though his defense has been really bad this year, he has had the tendency to hit clutch buckets for the team.


Counting on mills will cost this team come playoff time

Ed Helicopter Jones
03-13-2019, 03:41 PM
Counting on mills will cost this team come playoff time

How much better would the Spurs be with Murray in there to close out games? We don't protect leads very well because we can't play defense. Murray and White will be a great guard tandem in those situations next season.

spurs10
03-14-2019, 03:15 AM
Thanks for the grades! A great win on the road for us! I liked seeing us close strong.
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