Looking for Football and Track experts to help me with a research project

[TarantinoRezDog]

on the relationship between the two sports. Who are the preeminent football and track experts here?

[Will Hunting]

Blake is your guy

[Simple Chris]

F-F-F-F-F-Football is the d-d-d-d-devil!

[Blake]

I think there are a lot of football experts around here with some knowing more than others about certain aspects.

But if you're looking for someone that can talk these things:

- historically black college running backs in the nfl
- speedsters of the nfl
- tight ends of the 1980s

Then you've come to the right place

[johnsmith]

I think there are a lot of football experts around here with some knowing more than others about certain aspects.

But if you're looking for someone that can talk these things:

- historically black college running backs in the nfl
- speedsters of the nfl
- tight ends of the 1980s

Then you've come to the right place

Lol!

[Will Hunting]

F-F-F-F-F-Football is the d-d-d-d-devil!
:lmao

[BD24]

SFS for track and Blake for Football tbh

[Avant]

Here are my credentials.

Subscriber to Track & Field News magazine since 1966.

Have seen every Olympics since 1964

Keep a notebook with over 70 schools that have at least two

sub10.30
sub21.00
sub47.00
sub 14.00
over 25 feet

athletes

I have my own track fantasy track meets.

Was the mod at the world famous SUB10 messageboard.

Can list every track athlete of note that ever competed. Go back to the days of Lon Myers in the late 1800's, all he did was hold the American record in the 50, 100, 200, 400, 800 and the mile.

I have no equal anywhere when it comes to the who, what, where, and when pertaining to track & field

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I start in 1920 when it comes to pro football and day one of college football. Can talk all the teams, all the players all the divisions. Can talk players nobody here has ever heard of like Big Ben Stevenson out of Tuskegee Institute. Saw my first televised games around 1959, my first football hero....Willie Galimore.

TONS of books on football.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Then there is that track/football connection. We have seen TONS of track athletes also play football.

Olympians who played pro football. Will ignore....Jimmy Hines, Tommie Smith, Frank Budd, Ray Norton, they were just failed experiments.

Stone Johnson Chiefs/Grambling.....died from injuries in a preseason game, what might have been
Ollie Matson Rams/USF
Bob Hayes Cowboys/FAMU
Henry Carr Giants/ASU........brought in the cover Hayes
Trenton Jackson Eagles/Illinois
Gerald Tinker Falcons/Kent St
Larry Burton Saints/Purdue
Bo Roberson Raiders/Cornell.....the first speedy Raider, was a long jumper
Ron Brown Rams/ASU
James Jett Raiders/WV
Michael Bates Seahawks/Arizona
Sam Graddy Broncos/Tenn
Johnny Jones Jets/Texas
Milt Campbell Browns/Indiana
Marquise Goodwin Bills

There is nobody in cyper space who can beat me in track/football trivia, I cannot be beat. OBVIOUSLY me vs this place would be a laughter, I'm on a whole higher level.

Now who would be dumb enought to challenge me in track/football trivia, let me guess......nobody.

[Avant]

Just showing off.

The Raiders All Time 100m.

"A"

lane

1.Alvis Whitted 10.07 NCSt
2.Willie Gault 10.10 Tenn
3.Jacoby Ford 10.01 Clemson
4.Ron Brown 10.06 ASU
5.Sam Graddy 10.09 Tenn
6.Cliff Branch 9.2 yards Colorado
7.James Jett 10.16 WV
8.James Trapp 10.14 Clemson

"B"

lane

1.Bo Roberson 9.5 Cornell
2.Bo Jackson 10.33 Auburn
3.Alexander Wright NFL FASTEST MAN Auburn
4.Michael Bennett 10.18 Wisconsin
5.Rocket Ismail ND
6.Tim Dwight 10.33 Iowa
7.Napolean Kaufman Cali State 100m Champ Washington
8.Eugene White 9.4

Who can give me that All Time USC 100m? Just give me the name that fits.

lane

1.School 100m record holder
2.Olympic 100m gold medalist
3.Ranked number one n the world
4.Jamaican Oly silver and bronze medalist
5.100 yard WR holder
6.Another 100 yard WR holder
7.Jamaican 200m Oly gold
8.Started out at CPSLO

Who were all those 1000 yard rushers for my Niners?

Who were all those 1000 yard rushers in the NFL out of USC?


As we can see, Avant on a whole higher level.

[Avant]

I think there are a lot of football experts around here with some knowing more than others about certain aspects.

But if you're looking for someone that can talk these things:

- historically black college running backs in the nfl
- speedsters of the nfl
- tight ends of the 1980s

Then you've come to the right place

Blake, this is really easy for a guy who knows HBCU track.

When Oly 100m champ Jimmy Hines ran at Texas Southern this is the 4x1 team he anchored.

Arnoldo Bristol....Bobby Evans...Clyde Duncan...Jimmy Hines

BUT....both Grambling and Southern U also had stud 4x1 teams, go ahead and list just who was on those teams.

And.....when Bullet Bob Hayes was at FAMU he ran on a 4x1 team with two other pro footballers to be and the guy who was the first to beat him in HS. Who was on this team?

When Bullet Bob was in the NFL, there were two fellow players that had beaten him at 200m in college, who?

[Avant]

Just having fun now.

Chiefs All Time 100m

lane

1.Joe Delaney 9.4 NWla
2.Eddie Kennison NFL FASTEST MAN
3.Stone Johnson Oly 200m Grambling
4.Sammie Parker 10.17 Oregon
5.Tyreek Hill 10.19 Okla St
6.Warren McVea 9.5 Houston
7.Jamaal Charles 10.18 Texas
8.Ken Thomas 10.0ht SJS

Texas Southern All Time 100m

lane

1.Homer Jones....Giants, first player to spike the ball
2.Charles Frazier....Oilers
3.Robert Taylor.....Oly silver
4.Jim Hines....Oly gold/WR 9.95/9.1/5.9 Dolphins
5.Willie Polk
6.Theolonius Bush
7.Ralph Alpaugh
8.Renaldo Dawson

There have been three college 4x1 teams where at least three of the sprinters would go on to play pro football. What three schools?

The only white sprinter to beat Bob Hayes?

[mrsmaalox]

Here are my credentials.

Subscriber to Track & Field News magazine since 1966.

Have seen every Olympics since 1964

Keep a notebook with over 70 schools that have at least two

sub10.30
sub21.00
sub47.00
sub 14.00
over 25 feet

athletes

I have my own track fantasy track meets.

Was the mod at the world famous SUB10 messageboard.

Can list every track athlete of note that ever competed. Go back to the days of Lon Myers in the late 1800's, all he did was hold the American record in the 50, 100, 200, 400, 800 and the mile.

I have no equal anywhere when it comes to the who, what, where, and when pertaining to track & field

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I start in 1920 when it comes to pro football and day one of college football. Can talk all the teams, all the players all the divisions. Can talk players nobody here has ever heard of like Big Ben Stevenson out of Tuskegee Institute. Saw my first televised games around 1959, my first football hero....Willie Galimore.

TONS of books on football.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Then there is that track/football connection. We have seen TONS of track athletes also play football.

Olympians who played pro football. Will ignore....Jimmy Hines, Tommie Smith, Frank Budd, Ray Norton, they were just failed experiments.

Stone Johnson Chiefs/Grambling.....died from injuries in a preseason game, what might have been
Ollie Matson Rams/USF
Bob Hayes Cowboys/FAMU
Henry Carr Giants/ASU........brought in the cover Hayes
Trenton Jackson Eagles/Illinois
Gerald Tinker Falcons/Kent St
Larry Burton Saints/Purdue
Bo Roberson Raiders/Cornell.....the first speedy Raider, was a long jumper
Ron Brown Rams/ASU
James Jett Raiders/WV
Michael Bates Seahawks/Arizona
Sam Graddy Broncos/Tenn
Johnny Jones Jets/Texas
Milt Campbell Browns/Indiana
Marquise Goodwin Bills

There is nobody in cyper space who can beat me in track/football trivia, I cannot be beat. OBVIOUSLY me vs this place would be a laughter, I'm on a whole higher level.

Now who would be dumb enought to challenge me in track/football trivia, let me guess......nobody.

“credentials” :lol

[140]

“credentials” :lol
:lmao

[Avant]

Meh, that’s nothing compared to SpursForSix and his track wisdom.

Where is that actually at? I've never seen it, and neither has anyone else.

Show me what you are talking about, ok?

[Avant]

“credentials” :lol

Maybe....experience....was a better word. Bottom line......can kick ass on anyone challenging me.....would win any track/football trivia contest vs anyone. Yep, really that good.

[Avant]

Just saw this on the NFL Network (seen it before)

NFL Top 10 Speedsters.

10.Chris Johnson
9. Michael Vick
8. Joey Galloway
7. Cliff Branch
6. Willie Gault
5. Bo Jackson
4. Randy Moss
3. Deion Sanders
2. Bob Hayes
1. Darrell Green

I get that was done years ago, before Trindon Holliday, Jacoby Ford, Tyreek Hill.

But.....that list is so wrong it's cartoonish. Where is Olympic 100m silver medalist Sam Graddy? Where is Olympic 10om 4th placer Ron Brown? Herschel Walker would smoke both Bo Jackson and Deion Sanders, they ran 10.33 and 10.26, Walker at...10.23? Randy Moss over World record holder at 9.1 yards...Willie McGee? No James Jett who ran on our Olympic 4x1?

There is noway in hell Darrel Green who couldn't even win the NCAA is faster than Olympic 100m gold medalist and WR holder Bob Hayes. Hayes ran his 10.06 PR on a bad dirt track in 1964, Green ran his 10.08 some 20ish years later on a far superior track.

Here is the real list (using the time they used)

10.James Trapp 10.14
9.James Jett 10.16
8.Curtis Dickey 10.11........only NFL RB to ever be world ranked at 100m (while at Tex A&M)
7.Willie Gault 10.10
6.Darrell Green 10.08
5.Willie McGee WR 9.1
4.Cliff Branch 9.2 yards
3.Ron Brown 10.06
2.Sam Graddy Olympic silver medal 10.09
1.Bob Hayes Olympic gold medal 10.06

All those guys were great college sprinters, something Chris Johnson, Deion Sanders, Joey Galloway, Randy Moss weren't.

Hayes 10.06 on dirt some 50ish years ago the best 100m ever ran by any NFLer, yep, superior to the 10.00 by Trindon Holliday. Jim Hines did run a 9.95 in 68 but that was altitude aided and he was a bust anyway.

The fastest 100m ever ran by anyone who played college/NFL football was a 9.91 by Tennessee's Leonard Scott. The Steelers gave him a shot, a bust.

The fastest HS kid has to be Baker HS RB Houston McTear. As just a junior he ran a 9.0 100 yards, which tied the WR, and his still the WR, that was in the 70's.

BUT....the fastest athlete to ever carry a football at any level has to be Christian Coleman the current WR holder in the 60 and the current fastest man in the world. He has also ran a 4.12 40. He stopped playing football after HS, he knew track was his sport. He also went to Tennessee (as did Justin Gatlin)

Christian Coleman breaking Mo Greenes 60m WR.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TJjZfKiMFM

As just a college kid he beat the great Usain Bolt.

[BD24]

Here are my credentials.

Subscriber to Track & Field News magazine since 1966.

Have seen every Olympics since 1964

Keep a notebook with over 70 schools that have at least two

sub10.30
sub21.00
sub47.00
sub 14.00
over 25 feet

athletes

I have my own track fantasy track meets.

Was the mod at the world famous SUB10 messageboard.

Can list every track athlete of note that ever competed. Go back to the days of Lon Myers in the late 1800's, all he did was hold the American record in the 50, 100, 200, 400, 800 and the mile.

I have no equal anywhere when it comes to the who, what, where, and when pertaining to track & field

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I start in 1920 when it comes to pro football and day one of college football. Can talk all the teams, all the players all the divisions. Can talk players nobody here has ever heard of like Big Ben Stevenson out of Tuskegee Institute. Saw my first televised games around 1959, my first football hero....Willie Galimore.

TONS of books on football.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Then there is that track/football connection. We have seen TONS of track athletes also play football.

Olympians who played pro football. Will ignore....Jimmy Hines, Tommie Smith, Frank Budd, Ray Norton, they were just failed experiments.

Stone Johnson Chiefs/Grambling.....died from injuries in a preseason game, what might have been
Ollie Matson Rams/USF
Bob Hayes Cowboys/FAMU
Henry Carr Giants/ASU........brought in the cover Hayes
Trenton Jackson Eagles/Illinois
Gerald Tinker Falcons/Kent St
Larry Burton Saints/Purdue
Bo Roberson Raiders/Cornell.....the first speedy Raider, was a long jumper
Ron Brown Rams/ASU
James Jett Raiders/WV
Michael Bates Seahawks/Arizona
Sam Graddy Broncos/Tenn
Johnny Jones Jets/Texas
Milt Campbell Browns/Indiana
Marquise Goodwin Bills

There is nobody in cyper space who can beat me in track/football trivia, I cannot be beat. OBVIOUSLY me vs this place would be a laughter, I'm on a whole higher level.

Now who would be dumb enought to challenge me in track/football trivia, let me guess......nobody.
Wait what? What da fuck does the bolded part mean? Please elaborate these fantasy track meets? Does that consist of you going down to to the local middle school and watching the girls track team?

[Avant]

Wait what? What da fuck does the bolded part mean? Please elaborate these fantasy track meets? Does that consist of you going down to to the local middle school and watching the girls track team?

Glad you asked.

I keep index cards on all the NCAA schools that meet my criteria of.

Two athletes

100...sub10.30
200...sub21.00
400...sub47.00
110HH...sub14.00
long jump...25 and over
4x1 relay
4x4 relay
Can add two athletes for relay duty

No more tha 12 man teams

A meet looks like this.

5 points first
3 second
1 third
only the winner get the 5 in the relays.

USC vs UCLA (the two best teams of my 70 whatever)

USC in odd, UCLA even lanes

4x1

lane

1.USC...Lennox Miller...Andre DeGrasse...Don Quarrie...James Sanford
2.UCLA...Mike Marsh...Ato Boldon...Henry Thomas...Warren Edmonson

110hh

lane

1.Mark Crear
2.Greg Foster
3.Ryan Wilson
4.Andre Phillips

100m

lane

1.James Snford
2.Ato Boldon
3.Lennox Miller
4.Warren Edmonson

400m

lane

1.Quincy Watts
2.Steve Lewis
3.Michael Norman
4.Danny Everett

long jump

Randy Williams
Mike Powell
Henry Hines
James McAlister

200m

lane

1.Don Quarrie
2.Mike Marsh
3.Andre DeGrasse
4.Millard Hampton

4x4 relay

lane

1.USC...Michael Norman...Bryshon Nellum...Lionel Larry...Quincy Watts
2.UCLA,,.Danny Everett...Henry Thomas...John Smith...Steve Lewis

That is a dual meet obviously, I will have quads.

Over 70 schools I have on index cards. But can do it all by memory, just like I just did.

Imagine this fantasy meet.

NCA&T
CPSLO
Azusa Pacific
Jackson State

Started doing this in 1966, back then I only had a few schools I could use, one of those was San Jose State, a true track power back in the day, yep....Tommie Smith and John Carlos,

[BD24]

Glad you asked.

I keep index cards on all the NCAA schools that meet my criteria of.

Two athletes

100...sub10.30
200...sub21.00
400...sub47.00
110HH...sub14.00
long jump...25 and over
4x1 relay
4x4 relay
Can add two athletes for relay duty

No more 12 man teams

A meet looks like this.

5 points first
3 second
1 third
only the winner get the 5 in the relays.

USC vs UCLA (the two best teams of my 70 whatever)

USC in odd, UCLA even lanes

4x1

lane

1.USC...Lennox Miller...Andre DeGrasse...Don Quarrie...James Sanford
2.UCLA...Mike Marsh...Ato Boldon...Henry Thomas...Warren Edmonson

110hh

lane

1.Mark Crear
2.Greg Foster
3.Ryan Wilson
4.Andre Phillips

100m

lane

1.James Snford
2.Ato Boldon
3.Lennox Miller
4.Warren Edmonson

400m

lane

1.Quincy Watts
2.Steve Lewis
3.Michael Norman
4.Danny Everett

long jump

Randy Williams
Mike Powell
Henry Hines
James McAlister

200m

lane

1.Don Quarrie
2.Mike Marsh
3.Andre DeGrasse
4.Millard Hampton

4x4 relay

lane

1.USC...Michael Norman...Bryshon Nellum...Lionel Larry...Quincy Watts
2.UCLA,,.Danny Everett...Henry Thomas...John Smith...Steve Lewis

That is a dual meet obviously, I will have quads.

Over 70 schools where I have on index cards. But can do it all by memory, just like I just did.
that might legitimately be the most pathetic thing I have ever heard of. Whatever makes you happy though Larry.

[Avant]

that might legitimately be the most pathetic thing I have ever heard of. Whatever makes you happy though Larry.

How about this one.

Take all the pro rasslers you can think of, in my case over 2000 (notable). I am talking from Ed "Strangler" Lewis up to Kenny Omega. Take index cards, get a ruler and make squares, now write in....Lou Thesz, Killer Kowalski, Alistar Black, A.J.Styles, Smasher Sloan, Moose Cholak, etc etc etc, over 2000. Now cut them out and toss those squares in a coffee can.

16 man tourney (picking names out of the can)

Ravishing Rick Rude vs Magnum T.A.
Ole Anderson vs Prince Maivia............grandpa of The Rock
Wild Red Berry vs Gory Guerrero....father of Mondo, Hector, Chavo, Eddie, grandfather of Chavo JR
Ciclon Negro vs Waldo Von Erich....fake relative of Fritz
Gorgeous George vs Bulldog Brower
Samson Burke vs Ray "Thunder" Stern
Don Leo Jonathan vs Bad News Brown
Abdullah the Butcher vs Hercules Ayala

The winners move on to round two

There are all kinds of games to be played there.

Like I have said I only have a few interests but the ones I do have I have 100%/totally/completely covered.

[Avant]

Combining track/football/blues/rasslin', as that combo I honestly doubt anyone could beat meet in trivia if using that combo.

I go back to the very beginning on all of them, have done all the work that can be done, have read everything that should have been read. I have never met anyone any place (internet) who can hang with me if talking trivia, if talking my pet interests.

[Avant]

Not bad, but I’ve seen better from SFS.

SFS wouldn't make a zit on my butt when it comes to any of that and everybody knows this. That's why this is so damn entertaining/funny. All the ways around.....ok ok Avant you are freakish when it comes to that shit, never seen anything like it........ha~~~~

[Avant]

A fantasy 4x1 team for all 32 NFL teams, who can do that out there?

Example

Niners...Renaldo Nehemiah...Marquis Goodwin....Deion Sanders....Ray Norton (WR9.3 Olympian)

Well?

How fucking funny is this?

Poster...so who can talk the speed of Herschel Walker?
Avant....while at Georgia he ran a 10.23 which is amazing for a 225 pound athlete. He would make the finals of the NCAA.
SFS...he was big and fast
Poster......damn SFS, how do you do that? Great stuff, thanks SFS.

[Chucho]

Sigh. Larry, no need to campaign. You lost the election.

[Chucho]

And the court case.

[Avant]

Sigh. Larry, no need to campaign. You lost the election.

How was that possible when it's so damn obvious I know far more about track/football than SFS, well?

[Avant]

And the court case.

Do you think Dwight Clark was a TE?


https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51SRVXNXmVL.jpg


So this is wrong? As are all his other cards, right?

[Chucho]

How was that possible when it's so damn obvious I know far more about track/football than SFS, well?

People voted on the expert. That's how it was possible. You lost.

[Avant]

People voted on the expert. That's how it was possible. You lost.

Do you think SFS knows more about track/football than I do?

[Chucho]

Do you think SFS knows more about track/football than I do?

If he doesnt, than why did he win the election in such a landslide?

[Avant]

If he doesnt, than why did he win the election in such a landslide?

It works like this on the internet.

Avant....I know more than anyone here when it comes to track/football/them blues/rasslin'.
posters in general....what a fucking cocky bitch, how arrogant.

Everyboby here is going to beat me, you know that. Nobody ever.....yep, you're right Avant, you do know all that stuff.

Hell guy, it's so bad Dwight Clark is a TE....hahahaha~~~~~~~

I do have my fun with it. SFS knows nothing about track, if he did he couldn't talk 20.00 for a kid.

[Blake]

Larry in full nuke meltdown mode

[Avant]

Larry in full nuke meltdown mode

Blake, do you ever get anything right? Just having my fun with know nothings like you.

Dude.....a WR/TE...hahahahahaha!!!!!!!! Give me the names of all those who were....WR/TE....let's see them, what, there aren't any?

Blake, there is a reason every game video out there has Clark at WR.....ok guy? There is a reason the Niner site doesn't even mention Clark when talking their best TE's.

[Blake]

Larry in full nuke meltdown mode

[Avant]

Blake, never ever gets anything right, he doesn't get showing off, because he can't.

[Will Hunting]

Do you think SFS knows more about track/football than I do?
Yes, without a doubt.

[Blake]

Blake, never ever gets anything right, he doesn't get showing off, because he can't.

I don't need to show off. I'm secure in my expert knowledge of the football items listed above.

[Avant]

I don't need to show off. I'm secure in my expert knowledge of the football items listed above.

You really think you can hang vs me talking Niners?

[Blake]

You really think you can hang vs me talking Niners?

No, I'd doze off way too fast

[Avant]

No, I'd doze off way too fast

You made a mistake calling Clark a TE. Now all this because you just can't.....yep, he was a WR, my bad. You will NEVER EVER admit to being wrong and it's fucking funny watching you.

Dude, why do you think all his cards list him....WR? Come on guy stop ignoring that, why is he NEVER listed....TE....well? Come on Blake, why is that?

[Avant]

Jahvid Best Cal/Lion footballer, with a ton of speed for a RB.

Here he is winning Cali State, something other NFLers....Curtis Conway, Napolean Kaufman, Justin Fargas, Khafani Muhammad did.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqYP3p5afRQ

Here's what that kind of speed will do at Cal



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCa6vZh5mys

In the NFL




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Of2Ox9ljM

[Avant]

Would you believe Best was not the fastest RB at Cal? This guy was.

Here he is winning Cali State.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzcLZ9oQ17Y

Here he is at Cal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiUXOrY9iIw

The Titans drafted him in 2017, let him go.

The Pats had him last season. Let him go.

He is with the Broncos in 2019, see what happens if anything.

[Avant]

Then there was Cals Brendan Bigelow who nobody here has ever heard of. He was also a great HS sprinter.

Check him out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVIkMDJIGOo

Cal has had a few RB.

Russell White
Chuck Muncie
Marshawn Lynch
Justin Forsett
C.J.Anderson

This would be their all time 100m

lane

1.Forest Beatty 9.4....one of the greatest all around white sprinters ever
2.Isacc Curtis 9.3....still the fastest player to ever play for the Bengals
3.Willie White 9.5....father of female star Kellie White
4.Eddie Hart WR 9.9 a 1972 Olympian, 4x1 Oly gold
5.Hal Davis....worlds greatest sprinter early 40's, but.....no Olympics because of the war.
6.Atlee Mahorn...stud Canadian sprinter
7.George Anderson a WR 9.4 back in the day
8.Leamon King WR 9.3/10.1 A 1956 Olympian. from Delano, a 30 min drive.


Cal All Time Offense

QB....Aaron Rodgers
RB....Marshawm Lynch
RB....Chuck Muncie
WR...Deseun Jackson
WR....Wesley Walker...actually faster than Jackson, and.....legally blind in one eye
TE...Tony Gonzalez

Five big guys

[Avant]

Why even fight it people, just embrace it, learn a few things.

Where ya going to learn about O.J.Simpson?

I only saw him in person one time, this was at a track meet in Fresno, he would run a leg on his SFCC 4x1 team. In the program...Orenthal James Simpson. I thought.....cool name. Not knowing he was the nations top JC RB.

That day he was over shadowed by Byron Stone the best SFCC sprinter.

While at USC he ran on a WR 4x1 team, which is unusual, usually it's National teams holding these records, not college teams.

The team.

Earl McCullouch a world class 13.2 hurdler, who had a good NFL career with the Lions
Fred Kuller who ran a JC record 9.3, a white cat.
O.J. ran third......made both the 60/100 NCAA finals
Lennox Miller....the great Jamaican who won a silver/bronze in the Olympic 100m

As we know Simpson's first few years in Buffalo had people....a bust? In year 4 he took off, and had one of the greatest NFL careers ever. He is without question in the top six ish all time.

[Avant]

Getting back to Jahvid Best, here he is in HS, yep....this is ridiculous.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4hEDJRbzHo

[Avant]

All that above is what I can do talking track/football and that really ain't nothing, now let's see what others can do, I'm guessing..............nothing.

Joe Public has no clue just how massive the track/football connection really is. Hell, both Todd Gurley and Ezekial Elliott were stud HS hurdlers. When WR Robert Woods was at Serra HS (Tom Brady, Lynn Swann) he was the nations number one 400m sprinter. Kareem Hunt a 6-8 high jumper. Saqoun Barkley was weird....he long jumped, sprinted and threw the shot...huh? Jordy Nelson a Kansas State 100m champ while in HS.

Be back in this thread in a week, watch it go totally dead because nobody has anything. Time for SFS to actually do something, this.....I'm an expert....but never does shit totally sucks.

Before I go, a little known fact about Marshal Faulk.

A 10.3 is cooking for a HS kid.


Faulk was born and raised in New Orleans, Louisiana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans,_Louisiana). He attended Carver High School (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_Carver_High_School_%28New_Orlean s%29) in the Ninth Ward of New Orleans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninth_Ward_of_New_Orleans),[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Faulk#cite_note-Longman-3) where he played for the Carver Rams high school football (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_school_football) team. Also a standout track (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Track_and_field) sprinter, Faulk was timed at 10.3 seconds in the 100 meters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_meters), 21.74 over 200 meters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/200_meters) and 49.4 in the 400 meters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/400_meters).[citation needed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]. Growing up, Faulk worked selling popcorn at New Orleans Saints (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_Saints) games in the Louisiana Superdome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Superdome) [4]


(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Faulk#cite_note-Pierson-4)

[Blake]

Zzzzzzz

[Avant]

Yep, without me this thread is dead.

So who is that track/football guru?

[Pavlov]

This is why you get banned, Avante.

[Avant]

This is why you get banned, Avante.

What rule am I breaking?

[Pavlov]

What rule am I breaking?Spamming. You're just a boring troll at this point.

You've already been banned for this.

Learn something.

[Avant]

Spamming. You're just a boring troll at this point.

You've already been banned for this.

Learn something.


So just see who I can pester like you do?

[Pavlov]

So just see who I can pester like you do?No. You start duplicate threads and bump others incessantly.

[Avant]

No. You start duplicate threads and bump others incessantly.

How many times have you been in one of you all night....you suck...no you suck....bumping for hours?

I rarely post duplicate threads why would I?

Pavlov, you never do anything at all here but get into with everyone you come in contact with, you ignore topics to attack posters. You NEVER post threads, just leech off us. Do you really think a loser like you will be listened to by anyone?

Shut up and worry about the next poster you will attack, ok?

Tell ya what, you start a thread and I won't post any thread for 60 days, deal?

[Pavlov]

How many times have you been in one of you all night....you suck...no you suck....bumping for hours?

I rarely post duplicate threads why would I?

Pavlov, you never do anything at all here but get into with everyone you come in contact with, you ignore topics to attack posters. You NEVER post threads, just leech off us. Do you really think a loser like you will be listened to by anyone?

Shit up and worry anout the next poster you wll attack, ok?Why would I worry? You're the one who's going to get banned again....

[Avant]

Why would I worry? You're the one who's going to get banned again....

Let me worry about that, ok?

[Pavlov]

Let me worry about that, ok?You should. I'm not worried.

[Avant]

You should. I'm not worried.

I doubt talking track/football will get anyone banned, if....YOU PEDO....FUCK YOU....YOU'RE AN IDIOT...from everybody else among themselves doesn't.

Just following people around never doing anything yourself should get you banned.

[Pavlov]

I doubt talking track/football will get anyone banned, if....YOU PEDO....FUCK YOU....YOU'RE AN IDIOT...from everybody else among themselves doesn't.

Just following people around never doing anything yourself should get you banned.You're going to get banned again.

[Avant]

You're going to get banned again.

Pavlov, why is it you just ignore everything said about you?

It goes like this....

Anyone....I totally disgree with that.
Pavlov...you really need to rethink your position.
Anyone...who are you?
Pavlov....you haven't given it enought thought.
Anyone...dude, who are you?
Pavlov....if you really thought it over you'd see it for what it realy is
Anyone....ah....dude....who are you?
Pavlov....see you aren't really....

Pavlov, why is it you always try and get it on the other guy?

Why is it you never post threads?

[Pavlov]

Pavlov, why is it you just ignore everything said about you?

It goes like this....

Anyone....I totally disgree with that.
Pavlov...you really need to rethink your position.
Anyone...who are you?
Pavlov....you haven't given it enought thought.
Anyone...dude, who are you?
Pavlov....if you really thought it over you'd see it for what it realy is
Anyone....ah....dude....who are you?
Pavlov....see you aren't really....

Pavlov, why is it you always try and get it on the other guy?

Why is it you never post threads?I'm not getting in on you. I'm telling you you're going to be banned again.

[Avant]

I'm not getting in on you. I'm telling you you're going to be banned again.

So I need to do what?

[Pavlov]

So I need to do what?Not what you're currently doing.

[Avant]

Not what you're currently doing.

So don't post threads just leech off others like you do.

Only talk movies, TV shows, and argue over everything, which is what everyone else does here.

Start calling strangers....PEDO,,,despite the fact you they aren't.

I can do that.

Are you ever going to do anything except bug others?

[Pavlov]

So don't post threads just leech off others like you do.

Only talk movies, TV shows, and argue over everything, which is what everyone else does here.

Start calling strangers....PEDO,,,despite the fact you they aren't.

I can do that.

Are you ever going to do anything except bug others?I've never gotten banned.

[Avant]

I've never gotten banned.

You don't talk race, which is what actually got me banned.

Dude....we can actually cuss people out here, call others queer, faggot, PEDO.....why?

Pavlov, see where I asked you a question? Dude, why is it you ALWAYS just ignore it? Dude, and you want to give advice?

See this....

Are you ever going to do anything except bug others?

....how about you answer the question, ok?

[SpursforSix]

You don't talk race, which is what actually got me banned.

Dude....we can actually cuss people out here, call others queer, faggot, PEDO.....why?

Pavlov, see where I asked you a question? Dude, why is it you ALWAYS just ignore it? Dude, and you want to give advice?

See this....

Are you ever going to do anything except bug others?

....how about you answer the question, ok?

Why’d your daughter get banned?

[Avant]

Why’d your daughter get banned?

Dude, what is your real name, what does your wife do, let's talk about the kids, ok? Where do you work?

Show us a picture of yourself.

What year did you run that amazing 20.00?

[SpursforSix]

Dude, what is your real name, what does your wife do, let's talk about the kids, ok? Where do you work?

Show us a picture of yourself.

What year did you run that amazing 20.00?

You’re the track “expert”. You tell me when I ran it. Consider this your quiz that you’re always begging for. Once you find that, you should be able to pin down all my other personal details. And here’s a hint...it might not have been exactly 20.00.

[Avant]

You’re the track “expert”. You tell me when I ran it. Consider this your quiz that you’re always begging for. Once you find that, you should be able to pin down all my other personal details. And here’s a hint...it might not have been exactly 20.00.

As you totally ignore everything else.

Dude, why this need to hide? When those pictures of me were taken I knew what she wanted them for. When she....play some harmonica....I knew where it was going.

I wasn't all that secretive, yep...Judy, Mason, Porterville, I'm almost 70, I showed all that stuff in my man cave. Noboby buys 6-2 275 of twisted railroad steel, that was a just a troll.

Look at you guy.

[Pavlov]

You don't talk race, which is what actually got me banned.

Dude....we can actually cuss people out here, call others queer, faggot, PEDO.....why?

Pavlov, see where I asked you a question? Dude, why is it you ALWAYS just ignore it? Dude, and you want to give advice?

See this....

Are you ever going to do anything except bug others?

....how about you answer the question, ok?Don't need to. You'll be banned soon enough.

[Avant]

Don't need to. You'll be banned soon enough.

Those flashing neons...

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/statusicon/forum_new-48.png The Club (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7) (4 Viewing)
Discuss anything that is on your mind. Let it all hang out :)


That is what I do.

[Pavlov]

Those flashing neons...

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/statusicon/forum_new-48.png The Club (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7) (4 Viewing)
Discuss anything that is on your mind. Let it all hang out :)


That is what I do.And it gets you banned....

[Avant]

And it gets you banned....

I didn't get banned at THE CLUB.

[benefactor]

I didn't get banned at THE CLUB.
What?:lol

You talked shit to Kori and she swept your old, lying ass off the deck like a dead leaf. How many times have you re-registered now?

[benefactor]

Waiting for your non response, since you are afraid of me now.

[Pavlov]

I didn't get banned at THE CLUB.:lol you got banned at SpursTalk.

That's not easy tbh.

[Avant]

:lol you got banned at SpursTalk.

That's not easy tbh.

And that took me talking about race and arguing with Kori. Something more serious than this this silly shit.

[Pavlov]

And that took me talking about race and arguing with Kori. Something more serious than this this silly shit.What about all the other times?

[Avant]

What about all the other times?

1. Talking race.
2. Arguing with Kori while showing her others doing the same thing.
3. Sneaking back in.....twice

That's it.

[Pavlov]

1. Talking race.
2. Arguing with Kori while showing her others doing the same thing.
3. Sneaking back in.....twice

That's it.And you sneaked back in again.

Any day now....

[Avant]

And you sneaked back in again.

Any day now....

The big deal to me is you/Blake/and all the other freaks. Everywhere else everyone can talk on my level about track.football.music.rasslin' stuff. So I just fit in, here I stand out. I get a kick out of that.

I get a shit load of attention, other places just one of the horde.

[Pavlov]

The big deal to me is you/Blake/and all the other freaks. Everywhere else everyone can talk on my level about track.football.music.rasslin' stuff. So I just fit in, here I stand out. I get a kick out of that.And no one cares about muh level....

[Avant]

And no one cares about muh level....

What are you looking at?

Only here would posters think Dwight Clark was a TE. Only here could anyone....I ran a 20.00....in middle school, with others...yes you did. Gotta love that level of...DUH~~~~~~~

[Pavlov]

What are you looking at?Not your level you fucking pedo.

[Avant]

Not your level you fucking pedo.

Pavlov, see what I mean? Everywhere else that..fucking pedo....gets you banned.

Only here can we act like assholes, punks, jerks, and NOBODY CARES~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Pavlov]

Pavlov, see what I mean? Everywhere else that..fucking pedo....gets you banned.

Only here can we act like assholes, punks, jerks, and NOBODY CARES~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Except you got banned multiple times.

You're a special kind of dumbass.

[Avant]

Except you got banned multiple times.

You're a special kind of dumbass.

All over one thing that was talking race. The other times came about because of that race talk.

Pavlov, see here you are once again seeing if you can bug another poster, dude, what is wrong with you? Why this NEED to pester...well? Dude, seeing how you act like this to everyone it means nothing.

[Pavlov]

All over one thing that was talking race. The other times came about because of that race talk.

Pavlov, see here you are once again seeing if you can bug another poster, dude, what is wrong with you? Why this NEED to pester...well? Dude, seeing how you act like this to everyone it means nothing.
No, you got banned because you're a dumbass.

[Avant]

No, you got banned because you're a dumbass.

Pavlov, this totally ignoring questions you are asked won't work with me, ok? Dude, why this NEED to constantly bug people, well?

[Pavlov]

Pavlov, this totally ignoring questions you are asked won't work with me, ok? Dude, why this NEED to constantly bug people, well?We've gone over this.

I bug you because you're a dumbass.

[Avant]

We've gone over this.

I bug you because you're a dumbass.

Pavlov, do I really have to point out all the other times you are bugging others?

Dude, you bug everybody you come in contact with so cool the bullshit, ok?

There are a few total dumbasses here, I ignore them, they are a waste of time. You actually wast time on those you see as dumbasses......really?

Dude, why not just ignore me yep......you need me, hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here he comes again he cums all over himself in these jousts.

[Pavlov]

Pavlov, do I really have to point out all the other times you are bugging others?

Dude, you bug everybody you come in contact with so cool the bullshit, ok?

There are a few total dumbasses here, I ignore them, they are a waste of time. You actually wast time on those you see as dumbasses......really?

Dude, why not just ignore me yep......you need me, hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here he comes again he cums all over himself in these jousts.But you are a dumbass.

You just came all over yourself.

You're going to do it again.

Watch.

[Avant]

But you are a dumbass.

Dude, a true dumbass thinks that silly shit actually works.

Pavlov, don't you ever tire of...

dumbass
not me, that's you
oh no dumbass
oh no no dumbass

You will go hours like that.

Pavlov. you need help.

[Pavlov]

Dude, a true dumbass thinks that silly shit actually works.

Pavlov, don't you ever tire of...

dumbass
not me, that's you
oh no dumbass
oh no no dumbass

You will go hours like that.

Pavlov. you need help.You are a dumbass.

Those are your pictures being posted.

[Chucho]

Larry, has ANYONE on Spurstalk EVER talked track with you more tha just one post? And I mean a legitimate chat?

[Avant]

Getting back to Track/Football

What schools have put a lot of speedsters in the NFL?

Arizona State

Henry Carr Oly 200m gold
Ron Brown Oly 4x1 gold
J.D.Hill 9.3
Travis Williams 9.3
Fair Hooker sub14.00 hurdler

Texas Souhern

Charles Frazier 9.4
Ken Burrough 9.4
Warren Wells 9.4?....have heard that but never read that.
Homer Jones 9.3 the daddy of the spike.

Texas

Johnny Jones Olympic 4x1 gold
Herkie Walls 10.3ish
Tony Jones 10.2ish
Jamaal Charles 10.18
Marquiez Goodwin 10.1ish

USC

O.J.Simpson 9.4
Earl McCullouch 13.2 hh
Lynn Swann 9.6ish
Robert Woods top 400m in HS
Travis Hannah 45.5ish 400m
Reggie Bush 10.4ish

Oregon

Amos Marsh 9.5
Jerry Tarr 13.3 hh
Sammie Parker 10.18
Pat Johnson 10.2ish
Mel Renfro 13.7/9.6

LSU

Billy Cannon 9.5
Eddie Kennison NFL FASTEST MAN
Trindon Holliday 10.00
Orlando McDaneil 13.6ish hh

Florida A&M

Eugene White 9.4
Clarence Childs 9.5
Bob Hayes 9.1
Willie Galimore 9.6

Tennessee

Sam Graddy 10.09 Oly silver 100m
Willie Gault 10.10
Richmond Flowers 13.3hh

[Pavlov]

I can always tell when I strike a nerve with det ol' pedo.

[Chucho]

Getting back to Track/Football

What schools have put a lot of speedsters in the NFL?

Arizona State

Henry Carr Oly 200m gold
Ron Brown Oly 4x1 gold
J.D.Hill 9.3
Travis Williams 9.3
Fair Hooker sub14.00 hurdler

Texas Souhern

Charles Frazier 9.4
Ken Burrough 9.4
Warren Wells 9.4?....have heard that but never read that.
Homer Jones 9.3 the daddy of the spike.

Texas

Johnny Jones Olympic 4x1 gold
Herkie Walls 10.3ish
Tony Jones 10.2ish
Jamaal Charles 10.18
Marquiez Goodwin 10.1ish

USC

O.J.Simpson 9.4
Earl McCullouch 13.2 hh
Lynn Swann 9.6ish
Robert Woods top 400m in HS
Travis Hannah 45.5ish 400m
Reggie Bush 10.4ish

Oregon

Amos Marsh 9.5
Jerry Tarr 13.3 hh
Sammie Parker 10.18
Pat Johnson 10.2ish
Mel Renfro 13.7/9.6

LSU

Billy Cannon 9.5
Eddie Kennison NFL FASTEST MAN
Trindon Holliday 10.00
Orlando McDaneil 13.6ish hh

Florida A&M

Eugene White 9.4
Clarence Childs 9.5
Bob Hayes 9.1
Willie Galimore 9.6

Why tho? Who is asking for this? Who responds to this to have a real discussion about any of this with you?
Is this just you needing some kind of structure to put all of this "knowledge" that has no real use or merit outside of you bragging about it to people that dont care at all??

[Avant]

I can always tell when I strike a nerve with det ol' pedo.

Pavlov, have you ever struck a nerve with anybody?

[Avant]

Why tho? Who is asking for this? Who responds to this to have a real discussion about any of this with you?
Is this just you needing some kind of structure to put all of this "knowledge" that has no real use or merit outside of you bragging about it to people that dont care at all??

Chucho, why not stay on topic. ok?

Looking for Football and Track experts to help me with a research project (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278266&page=4&p=9740880)

[Pavlov]

Pavlov, have you ever struck a nerve with anybody?

Yeah, every time I make you start listbotting.

[Avant]

This is a thread talking track and football, so talk track and football.

[Avant]

Yeah, every time I make you start listbotting.

Pavlov, I hate to break it to ya like this, but you make....0....impact, ok guy?

How many times have I asked you to ignore me, what....a dozen? Who wants somebody important to ignore them? You are nothing more than a speedbump, ye just get in the way.

[Chucho]

Chucho, why not stay on topic. ok?

Looking for Football and Track experts to help me with a research project (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278266&page=4&p=9740880)







You want soooo desperately to be accepted as an expert. No one EVER talks to you about track...why?

[Avant]

You want soooo desperately to be accepted as an expert. No one EVER talks to you about track...why?

Chucho, admit you know SFS never ran a 20.00 and that was you just trolling and I will never talk track on this forum ever again, UNLESS....asked a question....deal?

[Chucho]

Chucho, admit you know SFS never ran a 20.00 and that was you just trolling and I will never talk track on this forum ever again, UNLESS....asked a question....deal?

He did. He gave me his word. His word is solid. Solid like a pair of Bose Headphones.

[Avant]

He did. He gave me his word. His word is solid. Solid like a pair of Bose Headphones.

Chucho, that right there is why I do what I want. You refuse to come clean, so I will refuse to listen to you.

Dude, it is physically impossible for a kid that age to run a 20.00, the body simply isn;t mature enought ...yet.

The HS record back then was a 20.13 by Roy Martin, that was in HS not middle school.

As long as you refuse to ....ok ok just goofing off......don't worry about what I do, ok?

Chucho, last chance, let's see....ok ok ok just messing around....and I will never ever talk track in THE CLUB ever again, deal?(unless asked a question)

[Chucho]

Chucho, that right there is why I do what I want. You refuse to come clean, so I will refuse to listen to you.

Dude, it is physically impossible for a kid that age to run a 20.00, the body simply isn;t mature enought ...yet.

The HS record back then was a 20.13 by Roy Martin, that was in HS not middle school.

As long as you refuse to ....ok ok just goofing off......don't worry about what I do, ok?

Chucho, last chance, let's see....ok ok ok just messing around....and I will never ever talk track in THE CLUB ever again, deal?(unless asked a question)

I dont give two shits what you do. I never told you to stop. I simply asked "why". Why do you always post walls of garbage info that is almost always irrelevant? That seems to be such a hard question for you to answer.

[Pavlov]

Oh look, Avante is saying the same shit again.

[Avant]

I dont give two shits what you do. I never told you to stop. I simply asked "why". Why do you always post walls of garbage info that is almost always irrelevant? That seems to be such a hard question for you to answer.

Why do you continue to ignore what I said about that sick ass pedo crap? Why call me a....known Pedo....when you know that isn't true, well? Why do you call Spur a faggot more or less, well? And, you know no kid can run a 20.00, so why do you keep playing that silly shit, well?

[Pavlov]

Why do you continue to ignore what I said about that sick ass pedo crap? Why call me a....known Pedo....when you know that isn't true, well? Why do you call Spur a faggot more or less, well? And, you know no kid can run a 20.00, so why do you keep playing that silly shit, well?Why do you care so hard?

[Avant]

Oh look, Avante is saying the same shit again.

Oh look, Pavlov once again totally ignoring the thread topic to attack a poster.

[Pavlov]

Oh look, Pavlov once again totally ignoring the thread topic to attack a poster.This isn't a sports forum.

[Avant]

Why do you care so hard?

why do you care so hard about what Spur says?

[Pavlov]

why do you care so hard about what Spur says?:lmao can't answer just like derp.

derpvante

[Avant]

This isn't a sports forum.

Tell that to the guy who started this thread.


Looking for Football and Track experts to help me with a research project (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278266&page=4)

[Avant]

:lmao can't answer just like derp.

derpvante

Frustrating when your questions get ignored isn't it? Dude, you do that all the time.

[Pavlov]

Tell that to the guy who started this thread.


Looking for Football and Track experts to help me with a research project (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278266&page=4)
That was meant to troll you.

You fell for it, dumbass.

[Pavlov]

Frustrating when your questions get ignored isn't it? Dude, you do that all the time.Not frustrating at all tbh.

[Chucho]

Why do you continue to ignore what I said about that sick ass pedo crap? Why call me a....known Pedo....when you know that isn't true, well? Why do you call Spur a faggot more or less, well? And, you know no kid can run a 20.00, so why do you keep playing that silly shit, well?

I call you a pedo because everyone else does. Are you telling me I should believe you over everyone else? If it's not true why would everyone call you that? That's just mean and the people here are good people, I see no reason such a malicious lie would be spread for shits and giggles. I trust people here.

Derp habitually posts soliciting attention from 3 specific men. He has hundreds of posts dedicated to his obsession of transvestites. This is more than enough evidence and couple that with his sociopathic behavior and it's a safe bet.

And, finally, I know SFS ran a 20 100m. He has no reason to lie about it. Again, I trust people here. Why would he say it if it wasnt true? Huh?

[Chucho]

LOL Avant doesnt even know who the best 5 jap wrestlers are. I had to give him a free education on that. What a dummy.

[Avant]

I call you a pedo because everyone else does. Are you telling me I should believe you over everyone else? If it's not true why would everyone call you that? That's just mean and the people here are good people, I see no reason such a malicious lie would be spread for shits and giggles. I trust people here.

Derp habitually posts soliciting attention from 3 specific men. He has hundreds of posts dedicated to his obsession of transvestites. This is more than enough evidence and couple that with his sociopathic behavior and it's a safe bet.

And, finally, I know SFS ran a 20 100m. He has no reason to lie about it. Again, I trust people here. Why would he say it if it wasnt true? Huh?

Chucho, did you read what started all that pedo talk? And where does...known...come from? I talked about just how sick that shit is and what should happen to those sick fucks. That is a pedo?

You never read my Olongapo thread, sure ya did. So why ignore what I said?

So you totally ignore what I said about that sick shit and I'm suppose to believe you have Spur pegged right when you have me totally pegged wrong?

Chucho, you see all those lists, al that track talk that is far above anything anybody else here can do. Don't you think if I can do all that I just might know sprinting? Dude, the BOYS under 18 200m record here in the USA is a 20.3, ok? And that was ran by a guy who went on to star at Oklahoma, ran a sub 10.10.

Dude, in order to run a 20.00 the kid would have to be able to run a 100m in at least 10.1 something, ok? Do you not get any of that? SFS never ran anything close to a 20.00 and I think you know this, why you keep playing dumb...???

[Avant]

LOL Avant doesnt even know who the best 5 jap wrestlers are. I had to give him a free education on that. What a dummy.

Dude, until you stop with this ....a known pedo....fuck the rasslin' talk.

[Pavlov]

Chucho, did you read what started all that pedo talk? And where does...known...come from? I talked about just how sick that shit is and what should happen to those sick fucks. That is a pedo?

You never read my Olongapo thread, sure ya did. So why ignore what I said?

So you totally ignore what I said about that sick shit and I'm suppose to believe you have Spur pegged right when you have me totally pegged wrong?

Chucho, you see all those lists, al that track talk that is farabove anything anybody else here can do. Don't you think if I can do all that I just might know sprinting? Dude, the BOYS under 18 200m record here in the USA is a 20.3, ok? And that was ran by a guy who went on to star at Oklahoma, ran a sub 10.10.

Dude, in order to run a 20.00 the kid wouldhave to be able to run a 100min at least 10.1 something, ok? Do you not get any of that? SFS neverran anything closeto a 20.00 and I think you know this, why you keep playing dumb...???Oh look, Avante's saying the same thing again.

Still caring as hard as humanly possible.

[Avant]

Oh look, Avante's saying the same thing again.

Still caring as hard as humanly possible.

What do you care about Pavlov, anything?

[Avant]

What project?