Psicó O'Rozco

[Psychopav Chump]

I'm really warming up to this guy, honestly.


WASHINGTON, Iowa — Beto O’Rourke said Friday he is “not … proud” of fiction he wrote as teenager about murdering children, while acknowledging its surfacing could hurt his campaign. “Stuff I was part of as a teenager … not anything that I’m proud of today,” O’Rourke told reporters outside a meet-and-greet here. “And I mean, that’s the long and short of it.”
O’Rourke’s remarks followed a report in Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-politics-beto-orourke/) that O’Rourke, as a young member of the computer hacking group Cult of the Dead Cow, wrote an online article about how society could work without money and, in a more disturbing missive, about killing children.
“One day, as I was driving home from work, I noticed two children crossing the street. They were happy, happy to be free from their troubles. ... This happiness was mine by right. I had earned it in my dreams,” he wrote, according to Reuters. “As I neared the young ones, I put all my weight on my right foot, keeping the accelerator pedal on the floor until I heard the crashing of the two children on the hood, and then the sharp cry of pain from one of the two. I was so fascinated for a moment, that when after I had stopped my vehicle, I just sat in a daze, sweet visions filling my head.”



https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/15/orourke-not-proud-writing-1223903

[LaSíSí]

Well, he's on the left and he's Hispanic; so, he's pretty viable. World we live in and all.

[All Lives Matter]

Interesting that this was released within 24 hours of New Zealand shooting.

[Winehole23]

Interesting that this was released within 24 hours of New Zealand shooting.
It came out the day before, but sure, it can be an apt deflection too.

[Will Hunting]

I'm really warming up to this guy, honestly.



https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/15/orourke-not-proud-writing-1223903


Well, he's on the left and he's Hispanic; so, he's pretty viable. World we live in and all.


Interesting that this was released within 24 hours of New Zealand shooting.
:lmao Derp having another conversation with himself

[koriwhat]

Well, he's on the left and he's Hispanic; so, he's pretty viable. World we live in and all.

Gotcha!

[Spurtacular]

:lmao Derp having another conversation with himself

That's your takeaway? Not this guy's fantasy about killing children? :lmao

[Will Hunting]

That's your takeaway? Not this guy's fantasy about killing children? :lmao
Yeah if his “fantasy” was such a big deal you wouldn’t need to have a circle jerk with your alts in order to draw attention to it :lol

[Spurtacular]

Yeah if his “fantasy” was such a big deal you wouldn’t need to have a circle jerk with your alts in order to draw attention to it :lol

Whatever you got to tell yourself to justify putting a guy who fantasizes about mass murder into high office.

[koriwhat]

Seems like Teenage Beto would have fit in quite well on SpursTalk :lol

btw the upcoming “Teenage Beto” troll will definitely be Derp, I’m retired from the troll game tbh.

if you resemble a troll physically then you're never truly retired.

[ElNono]

Normally I would say that’s immediate political death, tbh... but clearly Trump changed the game on that...

Solid move by Beto to air this stuff now though, before opo research brings it up...

[Spurs Homer]

non issue

When the right elected a

traitor,rapist,tax fraud, money launderer, pussy grabber,pathological liar,piece of shit -

they lost the moral ground.

If all of those things failed to move the needle -

you gotta just overlook Beto's fuckery also.

[koriwhat]

non issue

When the right elected a

traitor,rapist,tax fraud, money launderer, pussy grabber,pathological liar,piece of shit -

they lost the moral ground.

If all of those things failed to move the needle -

you gotta just overlook Beto's fuckery also.

the town retard strikes again!

[Spurtacular]

It came out the day before, but sure, it can be an apt deflection too.

03/15/2019 06:11 PM EDT

[LaSíSí]

Normally I would say that’s immediate political death, tbh... but clearly Trump changed the game on that...

Solid move by Beto to air this stuff now though, before opo research brings it up...

Kennedy was banging Hollywood A girls long before Trump. Hell, you only have to go back to Clinton. Nothing changed in that respect, bruh.

[Chris]

Seems like Teenage Beto would have fit in quite well on SpursTalk :lol

btw the upcoming “Teenage Beto” troll will definitely be Derp, I’m retired from the troll game tbh.

I bet you identify with teenage "Beto" and his morbid fantasies.

[Spurtacular]

Why did you put Beto in quotes? Are you claiming the real Beto didn’t write that teenage edgelord crap?

You really asking that?

:lol Slob

[koriwhat]

I bet you identify with teenage "Beto" and his morbid fantasies.

spot on tbh

[Chris]

You really asking that?

:lol Slob

I'm stunned as well :lol

[koriwhat]

And here’s the guy who defends murdering kids when it’s Trump who orders the strike :tu

you got that all wrong. you're just the retard who has really poor reading comprehension skills or you're trying to push your false narrative which is exactly what you're trying to do now. either way no one gives a fuck about a retard obese pos like yourself you fat fucking whale.

[Chris]

If you’re so stunned, then explain why you put Beto in quotes.

His name isn't Beto.

[koriwhat]

His name isn't Beto.

it's Robert Beta O'Rourke.

[Spurtacular]

His name isn't Beto.

Barry wasn't Barrack. Hillary wasn't named for Sir Edmund Hillary. This doesn't stop branding efforts.

[Spurtacular]

Oh, okay, so for the sake of consistency, I’m sure every time you talk about former Lakers point guard Earvin Johnson you always call him “Magic” in quotes, I’m sure your post history will prove that.

His name is not Beto. It's a shameless ploy to move away from his Irish roots. The irony is the Irish have arguably dealt with more hardship than Mexicans. This idiot doesn't even appreciate his own heritage.

[Chris]

Oh, okay, so for the sake of consistency, I’m sure every time you talk about former Lakers point guard Earvin Johnson you always call him “Magic” in quotes, I’m sure your post history will prove that.

I commonly put nicknames in quotes, but no one says Earvin. That's a rare anomaly.

[koriwhat]

Oh, okay, so for the sake of consistency, I’m sure every time you talk about former Lakers point guard Earvin Johnson you always call him “Magic” in quotes, I’m sure your post history will prove that.

you nitpick the dumbest of things because that's what retards like yourself do when they have no real substance to add.

[Chris]

Everyone calles him Beto, just like everyone called Earvin Magic. Nice try.

Not the white house. :lol


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[koriwhat]

Go back to doing shitty asscrack tattoos & defending Trump when he murders children.

ah poor baby... i didn't mean to hurt your feelings you fat fuck. :cry

[Spurminator]

Imagine caring this much about a nickname. Beto has had you guys in a rage for over a year about this. A nickname.

[Chris]

Imagine caring this much about a nickname. Beto has had you guys in a rage for over a year about this. A nickname.

No one is raging you dumb faggot :lol

[Spurtacular]

Imagine caring this much about a nickname. Beto has had you guys in a rage for over a year about this. A nickname.

Why is a grown-ass man using a nickname while running for the highest office in the land?

[Chris]

Why is a grown-ass man using a nickname while running for the highest office in the land?

So he can win the hispanic vote. This is the Democrats we're talking about. They will do ANYTHING to get votes.

[Spurminator]

Why is a grown-ass man using a nickname while running for the highest office in the land?

Ask Ted Cruz. Ask Bill Clinton Ask Ike. Ask Teddy Roosevelt. People use nicknames. They have for decades.

Your selective concern for this particular instance is a result of your partisanship and, if we're honest, a very low aptitude when it comes to discussing actual political issues (despite your apparent interest in politics based on the amount of time you spend here.)

[Spurminator]

So he can win the hispanic vote. This is the Democrats we're talking about. They will do ANYTHING to get votes.

You think Hispanics are so dumb that they're going to see "Beto O'Rourke" on a ballot and assume he's Latino. That's on you.

[Spurtacular]

Ask Ted Cruz. Ask Bill Clinton Ask Ike. Ask Teddy Roosevelt. People use nicknames. They have for decades.

Your selective concern for this particular instance is a result of your partisanship and, if we're honest, a very low aptitude when it comes to discussing actual political issues (despite your apparent interest in politics based on the amount of time you spend here.)

You're naming alternative names, not nicknames. Geez, you're a fucking peon.

[koriwhat]

You think Hispanics are so dumb that they're going to see "Beto O'Rourke" on a ballot and assume he's Latino. That's on you.

i've met plenty who think exactly what you find to be ludicrous but whatever. a bunch of whites have been duped just the same tbh.

[Chris]

You think Hispanics are so dumb that they're going to see "Beto O'Rourke" on a ballot and assume he's Latino. That's on you.

He ran in El Paso.

He speaks in Spanish at his rallies.

His website comes in 2 languages.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1r1gzMWwAE4lko.jpg:large


Idiot :lol

[Chris]

:lmao Mommeh & Daddeh not paying for your data plan anymore?

Yes my real name is Samantha you got me :lol


https://twitter.com/thatgopg1rl/status/1106466606585167872

[ElNono]

Kennedy was banging Hollywood A girls long before Trump. Hell, you only have to go back to Clinton. Nothing changed in that respect, bruh.

We're talking before becoming president, not once they're on the oval office. Things like grab them by the pussy or birther shit would've ended whatever presidential run, especially among christian conservatives. Clearly we're breaking new ground here.

[Spurminator]

i've met plenty who think exactly what you find to be ludicrous but whatever.

Yeah, no you haven't.

[FrostKing]

We're talking before becoming president, not once they're on the oval office. Things like grab them by the pussy or birther shit would've ended whatever presidential run, especially among christian conservatives. Clearly we're breaking new ground here.
If Kennedy spewed anti-White rhetoric he would have lost too

[Spurminator]

He ran in El Paso.

He speaks in Spanish at his rallies.

His website comes in 2 languages.


Idiot :lol

What's your point? Now running in his hometown, being bilingual, and having a bilingual website are signs he's trying to fool people into thinking he's Latino? Seems like these are all pretty common for political candidates.

So not only do you think Hispanics are dumb enough to vote for him because they don't know he's white, you think they're also dumb enough to attend his rally, visit his website, and still think he's Latino?

I'm struggling to understand the sneaky strategy you're accusing Beto of having.

[Chris]

I'm struggling to understand

That's on you.

[Spurminator]

Yes my real name is Samantha you got me :lol


https://twitter.com/thatgopg1rl/status/1106466606585167872


:lol Simple Chris posts a tweet of his favorite source Charlie Kirk lying again.

:lol "They must have changed it!"

[Spurminator]

That's on you.

It's on anyone who bothers to read your stupid theories. You're not even trying to make sense. Just soldiering for your imaginary online friends as usual, like the pathetic parent-leeching loner you are.

[ElNono]

If Kennedy spewed anti-White rhetoric he would have lost too

Everybody knew who JFK was, and also who George Wallace was. I don't know if it's the American education you received, or what, but JFK had one of the biggest speeches on civil rights and race relations. Here:

https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/historic-speeches/televised-address-to-the-nation-on-civil-rights

Not to mention him deploying the National Guard, not once but twice, to desegregate the University of Alabama...

[Chris]

:lol Simple Chris posts a tweet of his favorite source Charlie Kirk lying again.

:lol "They must have changed it!"

They did change it. It was "Beto para todos"

You're a dumb faggot.

[Chris]

It's on anyone who bothers to read your stupid theories. You're not even trying to make sense. Just soldiering for your imaginary online friends as usual, like the pathetic parent-leeching loner you are.

I've led the horse (you) to water. I can't make the horse (you) drink.

Until then, you're a dumb faggot; here's your sign.

[Spurminator]

They did change it. It was "Beto para todos"

You're a dumb faggot.

Caring about this is about as pathetic as caring about a nickname, but you do you, incel.

[koriwhat]

Yeah, no you haven't.

dude i meet plenty of people daily from all walks of life. i even viewed personal photos of rosenstein, kavanaugh, and a couple others by a family friend recently who goes way back with them all; she goes so far back she worked with ken starr against you know who. you have no clue who i talk to, who i know, or who i truly am. yall are nothing but schmucks here on ST.

[Spurtacular]

:cry alternative names

Yes. Like how slob is another name for mono.

[Chris]

e-stalking

You're an expert.

lol browsing Naruto forums

[koriwhat]

... but you do you, incel.

there's that projection again...


You're an expert.

lol browsing Naruto forums

lmao what a fat loser ass slob mono truly is.

[Spurminator]

you dumb faggot :lol


You're a dumb faggot.


dumb faggot


here's your sign.

This is some seriously D-minus trolling, mama's boy. How are you not better at this given all of the time you spend on Twitter and here? What is it like to suck at the one thing you spend all of your time doing?

[Spurminator]

dude i meet plenty of people daily from all walks of life. i even viewed personal photos of rosenstein, kavanaugh, and a couple others by a family friend recently who goes way back with them all; she goes so far back she worked with ken starr against you know who. you have no clue who i talk to, who i know, or who i truly am. yall are nothing but schmucks here on ST.

I'm sure you've met a lot of different people. I'm also sure you haven't met a lot of Hispanics who are voting for Beto O'Rourke because they think he's Hispanic.

[LaSíSí]

We're talking before becoming president, not once they're on the oval office. Things like grab them by the pussy or birther shit would've ended whatever presidential run, especially among christian conservatives. Clearly we're breaking new ground here.

Yea, we live in an age in which people who want truth are called truthers. That's supposed to be a slam, somehow. Birthers was just the next progression in that sham. This type of low-level analysis is what stops you from going next level, tbh. Obama and Hillary were birthers before Trump. And that's not even getting to the mounds of evidence that you're surely aware of and willingly ignoring to make your sad argument about how people are just nuts for not ignoring glaring things.

[Spurminator]

there's that projection again...

Rest assured, I am 100% voluntary non-celibate.

[Spurminator]

Obama and Hillary were birthers before Trump.

:lol wut?

[koriwhat]

I'm sure you've met a lot of different people. I'm also sure you haven't met a lot of Hispanics who are voting for Beto O'Rourke because they think he's Hispanic.

you aren't sure of shit tbh because you just claim to know but your reality isn't reality at all. i meet tons of people from all over. you simply have no clue and that's fine but stop pretending as if you know everything because you don't.

[koriwhat]

Rest assured, I am 100% voluntary non-celibate.

i doubt it. lmao

[ElNono]

Yea, we live in an age in which people who want truth are called truthers. That's supposed to be a slam, somehow. Birthers was just the next progression in that sham. This type of low-level analysis is what stops you from going next level, tbh. Obama and Hillary were birthers before Trump. And that's not even getting to the mounds of evidence that you're surely aware of and willingly ignoring to make your sad argument about how people are just nuts for not ignoring glaring things.

You're a truther, derp? :lol

I agree that the amount of dumb, ignorant people that buy into fake news strictly for confirmation bias is alarmingly high. It is a real problem, tbh, not confined just to conservatives, but education is the key here.

[Chris]

Yea, we live in an age in which people who want truth are called truthers. That's supposed to be a slam, somehow. Birthers was just the next progression in that sham. This type of low-level analysis is what stops you from going next level, tbh. Obama and Hillary were birthers before Trump. And that's not even getting to the mounds of evidence that you're surely aware of and willingly ignoring to make your sad argument about how people are just nuts for not ignoring glaring things.

I hope you continue to post here. This is an outstanding take ^

[Spurminator]

:lmao alternative names

:lmao

Somehow during the onslaught of retardation from the trio of morons, I missed this one. Jesus Christ.

[Will Hunting]

:lol wut?
:lol that one was incoherent even by Derp Marwen’s standards.

[Will Hunting]

I hope you continue to post here. This is an outstanding take ^
He already posts here under the name Spurtacular.

[ElNono]

I hope you continue to post here. This is an outstanding take ^

this post wasn't unexpected at all :lmao

[Spurminator]

you aren't sure of shit tbh because you just claim to know but your reality isn't reality at all. i meet tons of people from all over. you simply have no clue and that's fine but stop pretending as if you know everything because you don't.


I don't doubt that you meet tons of people. I expect one in your business would meet a wide and diverse variety of people from within a 3-5 mile radius. I'm just saying you made up the part about meeting a lot of Hispanics who are voting for Beto O'Rourke because they think he's Hispanic.

[Will Hunting]

Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656), off topic, but do you think the Earth is flat?
God made it flat but the luciferians made it round!

[Chris]

He already posts here under the name Spurtacular.

I didn't look at the post history. Still a good take nonetheless.

[Spurminator]

Yes, I especially liked the part about Obama being a birther before Trump. Solid take, reminds one of a young Bill Mitchell or Laura Loomer.

[Chris]

Chris, off topic, but do you think the Earth is flat?

"Space may be the final frontier
But it's made in a Hollywood basement"

[koriwhat]

I don't doubt that you meet tons of people. I expect one in your business would meet a wide and diverse variety of people from within a 3-5 mile radius. I'm just saying you made up the part about meeting a lot of Hispanics who are voting for Beto O'Rourke because they think he's Hispanic.

you're right, i even meet white people, like yesterday, who think BETA is hispanic too. lmao! my client yesterday didn't know he was just white til i called him a fake mexican; her mother brought him up not me.


God made it flat but the luciferians made it round!

that's a fucking hilarious post... i'm not even lying. :tu

[koriwhat]

"Space may be the final frontier
But it's made in a Hollywood basement"

space is definitely real and i can attest to that being that i visited the void before. now where's cuckles at to call me a druggy?

[Will Hunting]

Yes, I especially liked the part about Obama being a birther before Trump. Solid take, reminds one of a young Bill Mitchell or Laura Loomer.
Id actually like an explanation from Derp behind Obama supposedly being a birther :lol

[Spurminator]

you're right, i even meet white people, like yesterday, who think BETA is hispanic too. lmao! my client yesterday didn't know he was just white til i called him a fake mexican; her mother brought him up not me.

Was he planning on voting for Beto because he thought he was Hispanic?

More importantly.... you subject your clients to political conversations with you while they're getting tattooed? That is the cruelest thing I've heard from anyone on this forum.

[koriwhat]

Was he planning on voting for Beto because he thought he was Hispanic?

More importantly.... you subject your clients to political conversations with you while they're getting tattooed? That is the cruelest thing I've heard from anyone on this forum.

another dumbass with no reading comprehension huh? i don't subject my clients to anything they don't voluntarily sign up for. i don't bring up politics at all but my clients do which is surprising to say the least. i enjoy hearing everyone's pov so i welcome the conversations had.

[Spurtacular]

Id actually like an explanation from Derp behind Obama supposedly being a birther :lol

Would it surprise you to learn that Obama and/or system is that dumb?

[Spurtacular]

Not surprising would be that you’re a moron who fucked up yet again :lmao

https://media.tenor.com/images/9d84b8273c275681fe495c8f58a1cbd5/tenor.png

[A. Ocasio-Cortez]

I don't need this privileged white male getting in the way of my 2024 WH run.

[FrostKing]

I don't need this privileged white male getting in the way of my 2024 WH run.
show ur tits

[Spurtacular]

Says the guy who called Obama a birther :lmao

https://media.tenor.com/images/9d84b8273c275681fe495c8f58a1cbd5/tenor.png

[LaSíSí]

You're a truther, derp? :lol


I don't know why that's supposed to be funny.

[LaSíSí]

:lol wut?

You should spend more time researching it, rather than being a dismissive lemming.

But you do you.

[Spurminator]

You should spend more time researching it, rather than being a dismissive lemming.

But you do you.

Where would one go to begin researching Barack Obama's birther accusations on Barack Obama? I'm anxious to begin my journey of knowledge.

[Winehole23]

Rum, Romanism and rebellion

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[Chris]

Looks like there was a rum prohibition on det one

https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1107373609960513543

[Winehole23]

Sharing cracked video games 25 years ago.

Lock him up!

[Chris]

Who wants to lock him up?

[benefactor]

Rum, Romanism and rebellion

1107314663023353864
Apparently the GOP is 13 yrs old, like their president

[Chris]

Only the Left can do satire with their late night shows and Saturday night skits. The Conservatives are supposed to be super serious and above such frivolities. "Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion" Please.

[benefactor]

Only the Left can do satire with their late night shows and Saturday night skits. The Conservatives are supposed to be super serious and above such frivolities. "Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion" Please.
Those are actors and actresses. This is an official representative of the party of the President of the United States. But I agree both sides have had their classless moments. At some point, we have to be better than this.

[Winehole23]

The GOP has become the Know Nothing Party; they know nothing but the fact they hate non-whites, foreigners and Islam.

Jews and Irish seem to enjoy a precarious status as fully white, depending in the circumstances.

[LaSíSí]

Normally I would say that’s immediate political death, tbh... but clearly Trump changed the game on that...

Solid move by Beto to air this stuff now though, before opo research brings it up...

'Cept this wasn't a strategic move by Psicó O'Rozco. It was actually political engineering by a Reuters "journalist". And while he probably is applying the strategy you speak of to get this out at the right time for his presidential campaign, he waited until after the Senate race to aid him.

Go ahead and tell us your amoral response to that.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/16/reuters-beto-orourke-hacking-texas-senate/

[LaSíSí]

Where would one go to begin researching Barack Obama's birther accusations on Barack Obama? I'm anxious to begin my journey of knowledge.

You've spent more than a decade crying about how this can't be so. We already know you're not genuine. But if you suddenly are, I wish you luck in finding it.

[koriwhat]

Only the Left can do satire with their late night shows and Saturday night skits. The Conservatives are supposed to be super serious and above such frivolities. "Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion" Please.

bongino, "new rules! there's no rules! the gloves are off!"

[Chris]

bongino, "new rules! there's no rules! the gloves are off!"

Bongino podcast is always fun :tu

[ElNono]

'Cept this wasn't a strategic move by Psicó O'Rozco. It was actually political engineering by a Reuters "journalist". And while he probably is applying the strategy you speak of to get this out at the right time for his presidential campaign, he waited until after the Senate race to aid him.

Go ahead and tell us your amoral response to that.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/16/reuters-beto-orourke-hacking-texas-senate/

I really couldn't care less what you find moral or amoral. There's a reason we don't legislate morality, it's specious at best.

About the journo, all I can say that the fact he found out and Teddy's campaign didn't is an indictment on Ted's campaign. Apparently Beto agreed to a personal interview if he withheld the info to after the campaign, that's why I said good move Beto.

[LaSíSí]

I really couldn't care less what you find moral or amoral. There's a reason we don't legislate morality, it's specious at best.

About the journo, all I can say that the fact he found out and Teddy's campaign didn't is an indictment on Ted's campaign. Apparently Beto agreed to a personal interview if he withheld the info to after the campaign, that's why I said good move Beto.

:lmao The lookaway
:lmao Called it.
:lmao Casting the aspersion on Lyin' Ted is +1.

[ElNono]

:lmao The lookaway
:lmao Called it.
:lmao Casting the aspersion on Lyin' Ted is +1.

I don't particularly like Beto any more I like Ted... not sure what the self-proclaimed victory is all about... if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy, by all means go ahead...

[Winehole23]

Looks like Biden and Bernie, tbh.

Beto and Kamala seem to have fizzled, Biden has a knack for saying things that remind people how horrible he is.

But, anything could happen with a brokered convention.

[Spurtacular]

Looks like Biden and Bernie, tbh.

Beto and Kamala seem to have fizzled, Biden has a knack for saying things that remind people how horrible he is.

But, anything could happen with a brokered convention.

You're taking old and white over young and minority? I wouldn't quickly take that bet when it comes to Democrats, tbh.

[LaSíSí]

I don't particularly like Beto any more I like Ted... not sure what the self-proclaimed victory is all about... if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy, by all means go ahead...

I think you're support level for Beto isn't necessarily of any consequence. It's your capitulation. You accept a gross lack of ethics in the journalism community but then will feign ignorance about such things down the line when it suits you. You're a partisan; it's fine. But you won't be going nother level any time soon.

[Winehole23]

You're taking old and white over young and minority? I wouldn't quickly take that bet when it comes to Democrats, tbh.polls don't look good for young and minority, but it's early. In political terms a year and a half is a long time.

[Spurtacular]

polls don't look good for young and minority, but it's early. In political terms a year and a half is a long time.

Harris and Beto are dull people, honestly. Sanders and Biden know how to give the media something. Polls can be managed like anything else.

[Will Hunting]

Looks like Biden and Bernie, tbh.

Beto and Kamala seem to have fizzled, Biden has a knack for saying things that remind people how horrible he is.

But, anything could happen with a brokered convention.
I think Biden will fizzle our pretty quickly once he starts campaigning, and Bernie still just seems too old.

Candidate is going to be someone who isn’t even being talked about right now as a front runner, imo.

[ElNono]

I think you're support level for Beto isn't necessarily of any consequence. It's your capitulation. You accept a gross lack of ethics in the journalism community but then will feign ignorance about such things down the line when it suits you. You're a partisan; it's fine. But you won't be going nother level any time soon.

What capitulation? I expressed no opinion on what the journo decided to do.

[ElNono]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91EDI7zrnHL._SX466_.jpg

[ElNono]

I'm also fairly consistent when it comes to morality (I don't care) and ethics (I do care)... look it up.

[ElNono]

Looks like Biden and Bernie, tbh.

Beto and Kamala seem to have fizzled, Biden has a knack for saying things that remind people how horrible he is.

But, anything could happen with a brokered convention.

Difficult to ascertain until there's some voting going on. That always changes perceptions.

[LaSíSí]

What capitulation? I expressed no opinion on what the journo decided to do.

So your capitulation took the form of apathy. Not really any better, tbh.

[Winehole23]

Lol, alts can't stay in character

[Chris]

Lol, alts can't stay in character

How many alts do you operate?

[ElNono]

So your capitulation took the form of apathy. Not really any better, tbh.

Why do I have to have an opinion on it? I don't live in Texas, I don't know/like Beto or Ted, don't particularly care for democrats or republicans, much less in local elections that have no bearing on me...

I'm not the journo, I didn't withhold any information, don't know his reasons... If I have to have an opinion on this, I would like to hear both sides of it before jumping to conclusions, that much is clear.

[ElNono]

Feel free to call that 'capitulation' and do an endzone dance if that floats your boat... I don't think anything I've said is unreasonable or 'partisan'...

[Winehole23]

How many alts do you operate?Zero.

Back when we had poker and other games once I ran out of fake money and registered an alt to get more -- that was the only time.

How many alts do you operate?

[LaSíSí]

Why do I have to have an opinion on it? I don't live in Texas, I don't know/like Beto or Ted, don't particularly care for democrats or republicans, much less in local elections that have no bearing on me...

I'm not the journo, I didn't withhold any information, don't know his reasons... If I have to have an opinion on this, I would like to hear both sides of it before jumping to conclusions, that much is clear.

Indifference is a solid tool of a partisan. You don't have to do anything. You don't even have to come to terms; you can live in denial.

[LaSíSí]

Feel free to call that 'capitulation' and do an endzone dance if that floats your boat... I don't think anything I've said is unreasonable or 'partisan'...

Sure it is. You have no need for journalistic integrity if it's gonna hurt your guys.

[LaSíSí]

jumping to conclusions

It's not jumping to conclusions. It's documented that the Reuters dude sat on it 'til after the election. Chump would be proud you trying to talk your way around this; but then again, he's a hardcore partisan.

[ElNono]

Indifference is a solid tool of a partisan. You don't have to do anything. You don't even have to come to terms; you can live in denial.

I showed the exact same skepticism/restrain about a claim Winehole made about Trump a couple weeks ago... the fact that I much rather be informed than jumping to conclusions should not be news when it comes to my posts...

[ElNono]

It's not jumping to conclusions. It's documented that the Reuters dude sat on it 'til after the election. Chump would be proud you trying to talk your way around this; but then again, he's a hardcore partisan.

Could you at least enlighten me as to why do you think it's terrible he sat on it? I didn't find the CDC story damning on the whole (and that's certainly my opinion), but also didn't make me think better about Beto either.

[LaSíSí]

Could you at least enlighten me as to why do you think it's terrible he sat on it?

Wow that that's not readily obvious to you. It's the media's job to report newsworthy items and not sit on them. It's unethical for them to withhold information; it basically goes directly against standards of journalism. Granted, this has become the norm and not the exception, so I can see your confusion if you somehow were never attuned to this concept.

[LaSíSí]

I didn't find the CDC story damning on the whole (and that's certainly my opinion), but also didn't make me think better about Beto either.

Sure; you didn't subjectively find the story damning. It's up to the consumer of the news to make their own value judgments. It's the media's job to report the facts.

[Winehole23]

Like when Trump's buddy David Pecker at the National Enquirer paid for McDougal's story so he could spike it?

[ElNono]

Wow that that's not readily obvious to you. It's the media's job to report newsworthy items and not sit on them. It's unethical for them to withhold information; it basically goes directly against standards of journalism. Granted, this has become the norm and not the exception, so I can see your confusion if you somehow were never attuned to this concept.

I would argue the exact opposite: the standards of journalism dictate they should approach all sides and verify the information before publishing. He reached out to Beto and Beto agreed to sit down with him after the election.

Again, I'm not the journo, but I don't see a fault in 'the standards of journalism' in that action.

[ElNono]

Sure; you didn't subjectively find the story damning. It's up to the consumer of the news to make their own value judgments. It's the media's job to report the facts.

I asked for your take on it, you already know mine. I can't (nor you) speak for the consumers at large, so that's a different story altogether.

[ElNono]

I would even argue that what's been failing in the media is reaching out to both sides and informing themselves before running with fake news or flat out hit jobs. That is indeed the journalism standard as we knew it in the past.

[LaSíSí]

I would argue the exact opposite: the standards of journalism dictate they should approach all sides and verify the information before publishing. He reached out to Beto and Beto agreed to sit down with him after the election.


That is maybe the stupidest thing you've ever asserted. :lmao

If it worked that way, politicians would always say 'I'll get back to you later, don't print anything.'

[ElNono]

That is maybe the stupidest thing you've ever asserted. :lmao

If it worked that way, politicians would always say 'I'll get back to you later, don't print anything.'

But Beto didn't say that. He agreed to sit down for an interview. So, in light of that, what's the problem again?

[LaSíSí]

I asked for your take on it, you already know mine. I can't (nor you) speak for the consumers at large, so that's a different story altogether.

Jibberish point. The value judgments are irrespective of the media's mission to disseminate information in a timely manner.

[ElNono]

Jibberish point. The value judgments are irrespective of the media's mission to disseminate information in a timely manner.

Except there's no such mission. Media has traditionally delayed publishing for a number of factors, and it's not a new development at all. You can go back to the 60's, 70's, and media still withheld certain stories due to many factors: national security, sensitivity of the information, etc.

The whole notion that the media has a duty to publish one sided news is actually relatively new.

[LaSíSí]

But Beto didn't say that. He agreed to sit down for an interview. So, in light of that, what's the problem again?

It's still stupid AF. Politicians know it's the reporter's job to disseminate information in a timely manner. His decision to offer a timely response should have no bearing on that.

[ElNono]

Here's SPJ's code of ethics... point me to the mission to speed up release despite any inaccuracies:

https://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp

[LaSíSí]

Except there's no such mission. Media has traditionally delayed publishing for a number of factors, and it's not a new development at all. You can go back to the 60's, 70's, and media still withheld certain stories due to many factors: national security, sensitivity of the information, etc.

The whole notion that the media has a duty to publish one sided news is actually relatively new.

I'm sure there's an uncountable number of instances in which journalists and their overseers have ignored the standard of ethics. Your capitulation still is what it is though.

[ElNono]

It's still stupid AF. Politicians know it's the reporter's job to disseminate information in a timely manner. His decision to offer a timely response should have no bearing on that.

Journos code of ethics:

Diligently seek subjects of news coverage to allow them to respond to criticism or allegations of wrongdoing.

The whole 'timely manner' is nowhere to be found in that code though.

What's your source for journo's code of ethics?

[LaSíSí]

Here's SPJ's code of ethics... point me to the mission to speed up release despite any inaccuracies:

https://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp


– Be vigilant and courageous about holding those with power accountable. Give voice to the voiceless. (http://blogs.spjnetwork.org/ethicscode/?p=135)

First one I saw that fits the bill (there may be more).

Beto was not held to account. Certainly, there was nothing vigilant or courageous about standing down and leaving the electorate in the dark and giving no voice to the voiceless.

[ElNono]

First one I saw that fits the bill (there may be more).

Beto was not held to account. Certainly, there was nothing vigilant or courageous about standing down and leaving the electorate in the dark and giving no voice to the voiceless.

There's zero there about time though, which was your claim.

I would add: Remember that neither speed nor format excuses inaccuracy.

At the end of the day, he did exactly what the code of ethics says to do: find all the sources, let them speak out their sides, and still publish the story.

[Spurminator]

You've spent more than a decade crying about how this can't be so. We already know you're not genuine. But if you suddenly are, I wish you luck in finding it.

I have not spent a decade crying about the claim that Barack Obama was an Obama birther because this is literally the first time I've ever heard anyone claim something so ridiculous.

[Spurtacular]

There's zero there about time though, which was your claim.

I would add: Remember that neither speed nor format excuses inaccuracy.

At the end of the day, he did exactly what the code of ethics says to do: find all the sources, let them speak out their sides, and still publish the story.

:lol That you think it's ethical to intentionally withhold pertinent info from the electorate.

[Spurtacular]

Kamala should've told Yahoo she'd get back to them in 2021. :lmao

https://news.yahoo.com/kamala-harris-herbalife-accused-of-exploiting-latinos-090000896.html

[Will Hunting]

Kamala should've told Yahoo she'd get back to them in 2021. :lmao

https://news.yahoo.com/kamala-harris-herbalife-accused-of-exploiting-latinos-090000896.html
Yeah she has way too many special interest / Wall Street skeletons in her closet for her newfound persona of black female Bernie Sanders to last.

[Winehole23]

:lol That you think it's ethical to intentionally withhold pertinent info from the electorate.Norm erosion.

Porn star payoffs and spiking stories legit now.

Thanks, Trump!

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1108081171424894976

[CosmicCowboy]

Beto is gonna get ass raped in the primary. The media isn't going to fawn over him like they did when he was running against Cruz. He is too white and male and relatively conservative.

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1108081171424894976:lol "steal"

Poor Mexican Americans good now.

[Chris]

Je47wdQ910U

Poor Beto getting bullied in the paint :lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1107746623138848768

:lol

[Winehole23]

Beto is gonna get ass raped in the primary. The media isn't going to fawn over him like they did when he was running against Cruz. He is too white and male and relatively conservative. So is Biden.

[Winehole23]

He'll put his foot in his mouth, but fact remains, right now, only Biden and Sanders reach clearly above single digits.

[Winehole23]

It's early yet.

[Chris]

It's early yet.

Thanks, I thought the elections were tomorrow.

[Winehole23]

Fact rwmains Beto is in single digits.

[Spurtacular]

Je47wdQ910U

Poor Beto getting bullied in the paint :lol

Wow, at some point he'll release his donors he says. And he wants marijuana and more medicare. I'm all atwitter.

[Chris]

Wow, at some point he'll release his donors he says. And he wants marijuana and more medicare. I'm all atwitter.

That was his get out of jail card and I'm sure he uses it often.

"Guys I'm going to legalize weed YAY BETO!"

[Spurtacular]

That was his get out of jail card and I'm sure he uses it often.

"Guys I'm going to legalize weed YAY BETO!"

Not even a get out of jail free card. The girl simply asked him to name one policy he wants. :lol

[midnightpulp]

That was his get out of jail card and I'm sure he uses it often.

"Guys I'm going to legalize weed YAY BETO!"

Big card. Criminalization of non-violent drug offenders, especially those related to weed, is a human rights violation in my mind. Less criminalization=less government. Don't you like that? Also cuts into cartel profits and offers a safer medicinal alternative to many of the poison pushed by Big Pharma (don't you dislike Big Pharma?).

That said, yes, he better be fully transparent with regard to campaign finance and other associations.

[Spurtacular]

Big card. Criminalization of non-violent drug offenders, especially those related to weed, is a human rights violation in my mind. Less criminalization=less government. Don't you like that? Also cuts into cartel profits and offers a safer medicinal alternative to many of the poison pushed by Big Pharma (don't you dislike Big Pharma?).

That said, yes, he better be fully transparent with regard to campaign finance and other associations.

So is prostitution by that logic, tbh.

[ElNono]

:lol That you think it's ethical to intentionally withhold pertinent info from the electorate.

What you're talking about has nothing to do with ethics. We went through the journalist code of ethics, and there was nothing of what you claimed.

If we're being frank, you're more concerned about the political hit than whatever was in that article, or it's accuracy, journalistic integrity, etc...

[ElNono]

Which is fine, BTW... to each his own...

[Spurtacular]

What you're talking about has nothing to do with ethics. We went through the journalist code of ethics, and there was nothing of what you claimed.

If we're being frank, you're more concerned about the political hit than whatever was in that article, or it's accuracy, journalistic integrity, etc...

It's immoral and unethical. But I get that you want to look for some sort of semantical excuse (even though I've already shown that it violates their ethics despite your nuh uh argument). Bottom line is it makes them dishonest and untrustworthy.

[ElNono]

It's immoral and unethical. But I get that you want to look for some sort of semantical excuse (even though I've already shown that it violates their ethics despite your nuh uh argument). Bottom line is it makes them dishonest and untrustworthy.

There's no excuse, what you don't particularly like is that other people's morals don't align with yours. But that's really easy to turn around, would you like to be forced to live by somebody else's moral standards? The rational answer is no.

When you get down to whats moral or not, we're back into the opinion realm. You're certainly entitled to yours, but arguing over who's right or wrong is an exercise in futility.

[Pavlov]

Derp wanted the full Steele dossier to be made public before the election.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1108445652583960576

:lol

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbTcHpPDCu8

[benefactor]

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1108445652583960576

:lol
Ted has no room. He basically stood in the corner while Trump urinated on him then shook his hand and said thank you afterwords

[Pavlov]

Ted has no room. He basically stood in the corner while Trump urinated on him then shook his hand and said thank you afterwordsUrinated on his ugly sisterwife.

[Spurtacular]

There's no excuse, what you don't particularly like is that other people's morals don't align with yours. But that's really easy to turn around, would you like to be forced to live by somebody else's moral standards? The rational answer is no.

When you get down to whats moral or not, we're back into the opinion realm. You're certainly entitled to yours, but arguing over who's right or wrong is an exercise in futility.

It defies widely accepted morals. You're still looking for a semantical win instead of coming to terms.

[ElNono]

It defies widely accepted morals. You're still looking for a semantical win instead of coming to terms.

"widely accepted morals" is a misnomer for what you think "widely accepted morals" ought to be. We already established it doesn't defies any journalistic ethic standards, so clearly whatever those sets of morals are, they're not "widely accepted".

There's nothing semantic about it, it's plain as a day. If what you're looking for is a win, then by all means. You win. It's hardly the point.

Clearly moral standards between the vast majority of people from San Francisco or New York to the vast majority of persons from Yuma, AZ are drastically different, thus this idea of "widely accepted" moral sets is very arguable. There's probably some overlap, but there's also likely very opposite views.

This is why arguing about morals is ridiculous, everybody has their set of convictions, lives by them, and that's perfectly fine, until they try to impose them on somebody else.

[Spurtacular]

"widely accepted morals" is a misnomer for what you think "widely accepted morals" ought to be. We already established it doesn't defies any journalistic ethic standards, so clearly whatever those sets of morals are, they're not "widely accepted".

There's nothing semantic about it, it's plain as a day. If what you're looking for is a win, then by all means. You win. It's hardly the point.

Clearly moral standards between the vast majority of people from San Francisco or New York to the vast majority of persons from Yuma, AZ are drastically different, thus this idea of "widely accepted" moral sets is very arguable. There's probably some overlap, but there's also likely very opposite views.

This is why arguing about morals is ridiculous, everybody has their set of convictions, lives by them, and that's perfectly fine, until they try to impose them on somebody else.

Withholding information from the public puts them in breach of the social contract. Come to terms.

[ElNono]

Withholding information from the public puts them in breach of the social contract. Come to terms.

:lol you keep making stuff up. What's this social contract? Link? Already posted the journalist ethics code, no such thing.

Again, you've your own opinion of what's right or wrong in this matter (usually following party lines, which it not exclusive to you), and you want to presume that's the 'norm'. It's not, get over it.

[Spurtacular]

:lol you keep making stuff up. What's this social contract? Link? Already posted the journalist ethics code, no such thing.

Again, you've your own opinion of what's right or wrong in this matter (usually following party lines, which it not exclusive to you), and you want to presume that's the 'norm'. It's not, get over it.

:cry Social contracts are only for lemmings :cry

[ElNono]

:cry Social contracts are only for lemmings :cry

What does this mean? Explain your social contract with trans people, for example... it's your opinion, respectable, but as good as any.

[Spurtacular]

What does this mean? Explain your social contract with trans people, for example... it's your opinion, respectable, but as good as any.

I have no idea what your pivot here is for.

[ElNono]

I have no idea what your pivot here is for.

You brought up social contracts, not me. If anything, you pivoted.

[Spurtacular]

You brought up social contracts, not me. If anything, you pivoted.

Are you contending there's no social contract in place? You white flagging it?

[ElNono]

Are you contending there's no social contract in place? You white flagging it?

After you pivoted to social contracts, I mentioned that what a social contract looks like is fairly opinionated, thus asking you what does your social contract with trans people look like. I'm pretty sure it's different from other people.

[Spurtacular]

After you pivoted to social contracts, I mentioned that what a social contract looks like is fairly opinionated, thus asking you what does your social contract with trans people look like. I'm pretty sure it's different from other people.

The social contract is a bedrock for liberals, tbh. Without it, you wouldn't be able to justify most of your shit. I can't say I'm surprised that it suddenly is not so solid when it goes against you.

[ElNono]

The social contract is a bedrock for liberals, tbh. Without it, you wouldn't be able to justify most of your shit. I can't say I'm surprised that it suddenly is not so solid when it goes against you.

I'll take your admission that the social contract generally splits across party lines, as I indicated previously, means we agree that it's a fairly personal and opinionated matter.

I'll stick with the code of ethics for journalists, that looks fairly straightforward and non-partisan.

[Spurtacular]

I'll take your admission that the social contract generally splits across party lines, as I indicated previously, means we agree that it's a fairly personal and opinionated matter.

I'll stick with the code of ethics for journalists, that looks fairly straightforward and non-partisan.

So, the line splits for liberals on telling the truth in the news. I'll take that admission. :tu

[Spurtacular]

I'll stick with the code of ethics for journalists, that looks fairly straightforward and non-partisan.

The code that you've already been shown has been violated :tu

Not speaking for the voiceless. Clearly a breach of ethics....

[ElNono]

The code that you've already been shown has been violated :tu

Not speaking for the voiceless. Clearly a breach of ethics....

We're going in circles, tbh... we already crossed that bridge and your claim that time was of the essence is clearly not there.

Speaking for the voiceless would mean something if there was any hint of heavy handed suppression of the news, which in this case clearly was not the case (the journalist decided when to release).

So we avoid going in circles again, yes, news articles have been delayed for a number of reasons in the past too, including reaching out to the affected party.

Anything else you want to review on this discussion?

[ElNono]

So, the line splits for liberals on telling the truth in the news. I'll take that admission. :tu

I don't think that's how it works, I do think opinion is certainly biased. When we get to 'morals and social contracts' we're certainly in opinion territory.

Somebody claiming water is not wet is well, certifiably not true, that's when we're dealing with facts.

[Spurtacular]

We're going in circles, tbh... we already crossed that bridge and your claim that time was of the essence is clearly not there.

Speaking for the voiceless would mean something if there was any hint of heavy handed suppression of the news, which in this case clearly was not the case (the journalist decided when to release).

So we avoid going in circles again, yes, news articles have been delayed for a number of reasons in the past too, including reaching out to the affected party.

Anything else you want to review on this discussion?

We did cross that bridge. You're effectively doubling down on "nuh uh!"

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

I don't think that's how it works, I do think opinion is certainly biased. When we get to 'morals and social contracts' we're certainly in opinion territory.

Somebody claiming water is not wet is well, certifiably not true, that's when we're dealing with facts.

So, the social contract is just a bull shit concept when it needs to be.

:lmao

[ElNono]

We did cross that bridge. You're effectively doubling down on "nuh uh!"

:lmao

You're lack of argument is duly noted.

[ElNono]

So, the social contract is just a bull shit concept when it needs to be.

:lmao

Not all opinions are bullshit, IMO. I respect yours even if I don't agree with it.

[Spurtacular]

You're lack of argument is duly noted.


Not all opinions are bullshit, IMO. I respect yours even if I don't agree with it.

Fill in the blank.

1. If the Reuters is not telling the real news, that would make them _____ news.

[ElNono]

Fill in the blank.

1. If the Reuters is not telling the real news, that would make them _____ news.

'not'

[ElNono]

Not that it makes any difference, but IIRC, he wasn't working for Reuters at the time.

[Spurtacular]

'not'

Correct.

Another acceptable answer would be 'fake'.

[Spurtacular]

Not that it makes any difference, but IIRC, he wasn't working for Reuters at the time.

Agreed. He's not a viable journalist either way.

[ElNono]

Correct.

Another acceptable answer would be 'fake'.

how could it be fake news if there's no news, that's illogical.

The news was actually released once they reached out to the parties and confirmed the veracity of it.

Nothing wrong or fake with that.

[Spurtacular]

how could it be fake news if there's no news, that's illogical.

The news was actually released once they reached out to the parties and confirmed the veracity of it.

Nothing wrong or fake with that.

:cry Lying by omission is not a thing now :cry

Come on now. You got a solid streak of obtuseness going now, tbh.

[ElNono]

:cry Lying by omission is not a thing now :cry

Come on now. You got a solid streak of obtuseness going now, tbh.

Except that you would have to prove their lied by omission. There's no such thing here, seeing they actually did publish the story, so where's the omission?

They just didn't publish it when you thought they should've, which is entirely your opinion. Unless you have some sort of evidence that this was done with any intent of malice, it's really a baseless conspiracy.

[Spurtacular]

Except that you would have to prove their lied by omission. There's no such thing here, seeing they actually did publish the story, so where's the omission?

They just didn't publish it when you thought they should've, which is entirely your opinion. Unless you have some sort of evidence that this was done with any intent of malice, it's really a baseless conspiracy.

I don't have to prove it. He admitted it. Try to keep up.

[ElNono]

I don't have to prove it. He admitted it. Try to keep up.

He admitted to delaying the story to get Beto's viewpoint. He didn't admit omitting anything.

Of course it's up to you to defend your own position that he lied by omission. What did he omit?

[Spurtacular]

He admitted to delaying the story to get Beto's viewpoint. He didn't admit omitting anything.

Of course it's up to you to defend your own position that he lied by omission. What did he omit?

He let the electorate be uninformed. There was an omission. Coming clean after the fact doesn't erase that. This isn't hard stuff, dude. You struggle.

[Psychopav Chump]

He let the electorate be uninformed.

So, it's suddenly the media's job to inform people?

[AaronY]

I don't know why that's supposed to be funny.
Of course you don't :lol

[LaSíSí]

I have not spent a decade crying about the claim that Barack Obama was an Obama birther because this is literally the first time I've ever heard anyone claim something so ridiculous.

You automatically assume it's ridiculous b/c you've made up your mind on this. You'll search it out if you want to find out.

[A. Ocasio-Cortez]

show ur tits

I'm going to sue you for toxic masculinity.

[Pavlov]

I'm going to sue you for toxic masculinity.derp

[Spurtacular]

derp

More book burping.

[Pavlov]

More book burping.
lol using your alts to bump your failed threads

[Spurtacular]

:cry failed threads :cry

:cry Ignorin' subject / derpin = success for muh team :cry

[Spurtacular]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/beto-orourke-says-his-familys-ancestors-owned-slaves/ar-AAEjZC1?ocid=spartanntp

:lmao O'Rozco

[ElNono]

Is he still running, tbh? Don't keep track of the D clown car...

[Spurtacular]

Is he still running, tbh? Don't keep track of the D clown car...

He's really good; he was only 3 points from beating Lyin' Ted, and he can ride a skateboard.

[Spurtacular]

:lol Saint Beta

1159212028067819520

[ElNono]

:lol Saint Beta

1159212028067819520

Smart move, tbh... he can bring him to his 25-people rallies to have somebody testify about hate crimes.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnVNnnuDW4I

[A. Ocasio-Cortez]

This guy was stealing my spotlight anyhow.