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Spurtacular
03-16-2019, 08:01 PM
Not seeing this guy in any mock drafts, but I'm gonna call it now that this guy is a future NBA all-star. Definite diamond in the rough for the Spurs to grab. I don't know if he'll declare or not though. He still has two years of college eligibility.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxmRLwEvi7Q

John B
03-17-2019, 02:23 AM
6-7. He seems light though. How’s his defense? Because I think the Spurs need a defensive SF like Kawhi without the uncle. We might actually get that around 17-19 pick

Spurtacular
03-17-2019, 03:49 AM
6-7. He seems light though. How’s his defense? Because I think the Spurs need a defensive SF like Kawhi without the uncle. We might actually get that around 17-19 pick

He won't be a Kawhi on defense (from the little I've seen); but who will be? At his peak, Kawhi was at Nate McMillan, Bruce Bowen, Scottie Pippen level. And with the changes in the NBA, that is less important, anyways.

Offensively, he has a lot of poise and looks like he is already a polished finisher. And what I like is that he can very much play within the framework of the team. He draws a lot of attention because of his (developing) range / ability to penetrate, and he doesn't mind playing to what the defense gives him and getting those hockey assists (that don't show up on the stat sheet). Also, he has that weird lefty release that may remind people of Manu in that respect.

He definitely would have to add muscle and quickness and may not be exactly NBA ready right off. But his tools / ceiling seem to be higher than Lonnie Walker who is more of a raw athleticism pick, imo.

Spurtacular
03-17-2019, 03:57 AM
PG D. Murray
SG J. Harris
SF. R. Gay / L. Walker
PF L. Aldridge / R. Gay
C. J. Poetl / L. Aldridge

Would be fun to see a big line-up like that, tbh.

ceperez
03-17-2019, 05:09 AM
Awkward looking shot. But, Spurs have habit of picking up some under the radar players. Could be in 2nd round.

D-Robinson 50 fan
03-17-2019, 09:05 AM
I think people are sleeping on Lonnie big time. The guy is a great athlete with an NBA body and good looking shooting stroke. If he is open to being coached and working hard, the guy has the best chance out of all our young players to actually become a star

pad300
03-17-2019, 09:33 AM
Not seeing this guy in any mock drafts, but I'm gonna call it now that this guy is a future NBA all-star. Definite diamond in the rough for the Spurs to grab. I don't know if he'll declare or not though. He still has two years of college eligibility.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxmRLwEvi7Q

Bullshit. Everybody looks good on highlight videos; they only show the makes. I only saw 1 block and a couple of steals, which suggest his athleticism isn't awesome (ie NBA level). One assist on a highlight video for a guard does not suggest passing chops either. Given he's a senior despite only playing 2 years, he's had much more time to physically develop than most of the kids he's playing against... That's no all-star in the making.

exstatic
03-17-2019, 11:28 AM
Not seeing this guy in any mock drafts, but I'm gonna call it now that this guy is a future NBA all-star. Definite diamond in the rough for the Spurs to grab. I don't know if he'll declare or not though. He still has two years of college eligibility.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxmRLwEvi7Q

Look at the NBA All stars from this year. Now, count how many went more than one and done. Now, subtract the ones from mid moajors, who tend to get lost in the shuffle. You number is very small. If he were going to be an All Star, he’d already be in the NBA.

Joseph Kony
03-17-2019, 11:35 AM
arent you that retard that thinks Jimmer Freddette is a legit nba talent? :lmao yeah ill take your talent evaluation with a grain of salt tbh

RD2191
03-17-2019, 12:33 PM
arent you that retard that thinks Jimmer Freddette is a legit nba talent? :lmao yeah ill take your talent evaluation with a grain of salt tbh

:lol

J_Paco
03-17-2019, 04:19 PM
arent you that retard that thinks Jimmer Freddette is a legit nba talent? :lmao yeah ill take your talent evaluation with a grain of salt tbh

Not to pile on but....

:lmao:lmao:lmao

benefactor
03-17-2019, 04:24 PM
arent you that retard that thinks Jimmer Freddette is a legit nba talent? :lmao yeah ill take your talent evaluation with a grain of salt tbh
Beat me to it:lol

dbestpro
03-17-2019, 04:35 PM
Pass.

Spurtacular
03-17-2019, 04:59 PM
Figured he was a sophomore cos only two years (the one page didn't say). So, he's a late bloomer, which is why he is under the radar. He's currently not on any mock drafts. If Buffalo makes a deep run in the tourney he will be, though. The later he goes the better of a value he is. He has all the tools. The only question mark is athleticism at the next level.

Spurtacular
03-17-2019, 05:23 PM
Bullshit. Everybody looks good on highlight videos

People should obviously stop posting highlight videos. Great insight, Mr. P.

Spurtacular
03-17-2019, 05:24 PM
Look at the NBA All stars from this year. Now, count how many went more than one and done. Now, subtract the ones from mid moajors, who tend to get lost in the shuffle. You number is very small. If he were going to be an All Star, he’d already be in the NBA.

If I didn't know the math, I wouldn't have called it a bold take.

ceperez
03-17-2019, 05:56 PM
.270 for 3 ... unlikely.... Spurs tend to pick up players who have progressively become better.

JPB
03-17-2019, 05:59 PM
arent you that retard that thinks Jimmer Freddette is a legit nba talent? :lmao yeah ill take your talent evaluation with a grain of salt tbh

I've heard he dropped 65 last night in the Singapore D-League zchinzung conference Finals

Spurtacular
03-17-2019, 06:15 PM
.270 for 3 ... unlikely.... Spurs tend to pick up players who have progressively become better.

You need to look again.

Spurtacular
03-17-2019, 06:16 PM
I've heard he dropped 65 last night in the Singapore D-League zchinzung conference Finals

Haters gonna hate.

https://247sports.com/college/byu/Article/Jimmer-Fredette-greatest-college-players-of-all-time-Slam-magazine-130188248/
https://poststar.com/sports/fredette-helps-shanghai-into-playoffs-leads-league-in-scoring/article_827206a6-ae27-53f7-a61a-62d42e692c4f.html

TheGreatYacht
03-17-2019, 09:30 PM
He'll have a bright future in China.

Spurtacular
03-18-2019, 12:17 AM
He'll have a bright future in China.

He'll get a really good shot in the NBA long before that. 6'7" wings with a solid panoply of offensive tools are in pretty high demand right now.

ceperez
03-18-2019, 05:38 AM
The negative appears that he has trouble being eligible academically. I don't know exactly what his problem is, but this could translate negatively in the NBA court. The offensive and defensive schemes are so complex now that there's a lot of mental preparation in the NBA game. The NBA game has a level of coordination and synchronization that is beyond many players ability to absorb. The Spurs are one of those teams that's extremely demanding mentally.

exstatic
03-18-2019, 06:21 AM
He'll get a really good shot in the NBA long before that. 6'7" wings with a solid panoply of offensive tools are in pretty high demand right now.

In spite of the fact that he’s played two years of college ball, and he’s not on anyone’s mock draft now?

D-Robinson 50 fan
03-18-2019, 06:53 AM
I was looking at this guy’s numbers on basketball reference and his freshman year he shot a lot better than he has this season with more usage which isn’t all that great of an indicator. It was stated he isn’t all that great on defense or a great athlete and his 3 point shot isn’t all that great coupled with him not really being a play maker. What does this guy bring to the table that made him a sleeper in the thread starters eyes?

of course he can get better and maybe in the right situation become a pro player (long shot with the NBA) and have a long career. But just looking at his numbers and honestly not seeing him play before gives me cause to pause. I will definitely check out Buffalo tournament game now though to see how he plays. If he does well in it he might pop up on some real talent evaluators radar

ceperez
03-18-2019, 07:49 AM
I was looking at this guy’s numbers on basketball reference and his freshman year he shot a lot better than he has this season with more usage which isn’t all that great of an indicator. It was stated he isn’t all that great on defense or a great athlete and his 3 point shot isn’t all that great coupled with him not really being a play maker. What does this guy bring to the table that made him a sleeper in the thread starters eyes?

of course he can get better and maybe in the right situation become a pro player (long shot with the NBA) and have a long career. But just looking at his numbers and honestly not seeing him play before gives me cause to pause. I will definitely check out Buffalo tournament game now though to see how he plays. If he does well in it he might pop up on some real talent evaluators radar

There's a lot of talent out there and hopefully PATFO can find the diamonds in the rough.

Seniors (like Thybulle) are interesting because most teams overlook them likely due to lack of elite athleticism. There's a reason why these players were not good enough to be considered as freshmen or sophomores. But the Spurs picking usually in the 20s need to find players where nobody else is looking. Unfortunately, the Spurs have not hit jackpot with 2nd round picks lately.

D-Robinson 50 fan
03-18-2019, 10:33 AM
There's a lot of talent out there and hopefully PATFO can find the diamonds in the rough.

Seniors (like Thybulle) are interesting because most teams overlook them likely due to lack of elite athleticism. There's a reason why these players were not good enough to be considered as freshmen or sophomores. But the Spurs picking usually in the 20s need to find players where nobody else is looking. Unfortunately, the Spurs have not hit jackpot with 2nd round picks lately.

I agree that the team needs to find quality players by any means and there are a lot of good upper class men who get over looked during the draft. That still doesn’t answer my question why this particular player is being called a sleeper by the thread starter. The guys shooting, assist, a combined defensive numbers aren’t that great. Not to mention the thread starter said he isn’t a great athlete or defender. So why is he considered a sleeper to the thread starter? Does he have a crazy wing span or something?

exstatic
03-18-2019, 10:46 AM
I agree that the team needs to find quality players by any means and there are a lot of good upper class men who get over looked during the draft. That still doesn’t answer my question why this particular player is being called a sleeper by the thread starter. The guys shooting, assist, a combined defensive numbers aren’t that great. Not to mention the thread starter said he isn’t a great athlete or defender. So why is he considered a sleeper to the thread starter? Does he have a crazy wing span or something?

OP still thinks Jimmer Fredette is an NBA quality player. Does that answer your question?

D-Robinson 50 fan
03-18-2019, 10:54 AM
OP still thinks Jimmer Fredette is an NBA quality player. Does that answer your question?

:lmao I seen folks roasting him about that. I’m just trying to understand what he sees in the guy

Spurtacular
03-18-2019, 02:32 PM
In spite of the fact that he’s played two years of college ball, and he’s not on anyone’s mock draft now?

Imo, he will be drafted. But if not he will be a training camp invite.

Seventyniner
03-18-2019, 02:56 PM
:lmao I seen folks roasting him about that. I’m just trying to understand what he sees in the guy

He's not white, and as far as I can tell he's not Mormon. So I don't get it either.

Leetonidas
03-18-2019, 03:16 PM
I've heard he dropped 65 last night in the Singapore D-League zchinzung conference Finals
:lmao

exstatic
03-18-2019, 03:25 PM
Imo, he will be drafted. But if not he will be a training camp invite.

And shortly after that, a star, right?

Spurtacular
03-18-2019, 04:39 PM
And shortly after that, a star, right?

He'll need time to develop like most young players.

Spurtacular
03-18-2019, 05:10 PM
I think he'll need to adapt to the physicality of the NBA. Finishing/defending in the lane against players who are bigger than him.

ceperez
03-18-2019, 06:14 PM
The only thing I notice that's different is that he's a lefty.

Hilliard was also a lefty, listed at 6'6".... he didn't make the team. Although I thought he was a decent player.

exstatic
03-18-2019, 09:07 PM
My bold take is that he’s undrafted, and never plays an NBA minute.

Spurtacular
03-18-2019, 09:18 PM
My bold take is that he’s undrafted, and never plays an NBA minute.

:lol The bitterness consumes you. :lol

Spurtacular
09-08-2020, 02:32 PM
I guess I was wrong on this one. At the time I was thinking maybe I should sit a couple days on it.
But I had to be bold. :lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Harris_(basketball)

J_Paco
09-09-2020, 12:49 AM
I guess I was wrong on this one. At the time I was thinking maybe I should sit a couple days on it.
But I had to be bold. :lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Harris_(basketball)

Nah, you're just a dumbass with little insight or understanding of what makes a player "great" or of NBA quality.

No need to bump & backtrack your stupid prediction.

Spurtacular
09-09-2020, 09:24 AM
Nah, you're just a dumbass with little insight or understanding of what makes a player "great" or of NBA quality.

No need to bump & backtrack your stupid prediction.

Big talk from someone I don't care about.

exstatic
09-09-2020, 09:27 AM
My bold take is that he’s undrafted, and never plays an NBA minute.

Thanks for the lob. :lol

jjktkk
09-09-2020, 09:38 AM
Not seeing this guy in any mock drafts, but I'm gonna call it now that this guy is a future NBA all-star.

:lol

Dejounte
09-09-2020, 09:43 AM
The question is: which prospect are we currently doing what Spurtacular did with Jeremy Harris to?

Spurtacular
09-09-2020, 09:54 AM
The question is: which prospect are we currently doing what Spurtacular (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615) did with Jeremy Harris to?

JH wasn't a bad call on paper. He has the skill set. The building blocks are there.
He wasn't drafted and never got a real chance.
I'm not saying I was totally wrong. I'm pointing out that it didn't happen though.