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Avant
03-19-2019, 05:26 PM
First off, I discovered it was all fake at around 12, saw a match from Fresno TV on a Wednesday, on Thursday we went to Modesto to visit some relatives, they got Sacramento BIG TIME WRESTLING. It was Sir Alan Garfield vs Danny 0' Rourke...again...and hold for hold, punch for punch just like on Wednesday from Fresno. I never did tell granny, it would have broke her heart she loved the rasslin'. Hell, what if she'd fell over dead hearing that? Her fav was Pepper Gomez.

Anyway....

As we all know it's a lot like a soap opera, the movies, just a show, nothing real about it other than what it taKes to pull it off.

There have been tons of footballers, weight lifters, power lifters, in the rasslin' biz.

Trying to say it doesn't take legit athletes to make it work in that biz is simply wrong. Old ladies can play golf, that is a sport. Who can't drive a car, NASCAR is a sport (yes yes I know) tiny little guys as jockies, skinny little guys as distance runners. Compare any of them to these two when it comes to athletes.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD3jHysQzjA

For every...it's actual a....there is...it is a sport.

spurraider21
03-19-2019, 07:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejQFkSFDpn8

Avant
03-19-2019, 07:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejQFkSFDpn8

Then there's....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq_DQxkyRss

DMC
03-19-2019, 08:51 PM
Pro wrestling is a misnomer. It requires some athletic ability, sometimes a lot, but there's no competition so no sport. It's a skit.

Avant
03-19-2019, 09:01 PM
Pro wrestling is a misnomer. It requires some athletic ability, sometimes a lot, but there's no competition so no sport. It's a skit.

But there is competition.

All these guys come in wanting to main event WRESTLEMANIA, make the big $$$$$$$$$. They are competing to be the best in the biz, be a Champion.

spurraider21
03-19-2019, 09:12 PM
and tom cruise is a secret agent because he stars in mission impossible movies

i mean he does his own stunts so clearly its the same! and there are thousands of actors vying for these great roles

Millennial_Messiah
03-19-2019, 09:31 PM
It's cinema. No competition, no sport. The end.

pgardn
03-19-2019, 09:46 PM
Avante was able to determine The logistical difficulties Santa Claus had at around age 47.
So he has always asked the big questions.
And has been puzzled, then bamboozled.

Avant
03-19-2019, 09:51 PM
and tom cruise is a secret agent because he stars in mission impossible movies

i mean he does his own stunts so clearly its the same! and there are thousands of actors vying for these great roles

It is?

Avant
03-19-2019, 09:53 PM
It's cinema. No competition, no sport. The end.

Great athlete putting their bodies on the line, that took months to train for, all trying to out do the other and get that big $$$$$$$$$, yep....sport.

Avant
03-19-2019, 09:55 PM
Avante was able to determine The logistical difficulties Santa Claus had at around age 47.
So he has always asked the big questions.
And has been puzzled, then bamboozled.

pgardn, never figuring out nobody gives a fuck about Santa Claus in a thread about pro wrestling.

midnightpulp
03-19-2019, 09:56 PM
They're uber-athletic, but sport involves real competition.

Avant
03-19-2019, 09:57 PM
https://11points.com/11-popular-sports-world/

Avant
03-19-2019, 10:15 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_in_the_United_States

Avant
03-20-2019, 02:24 AM
pro wrestling (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pro%20wrestling)

A rehearsed spinoff (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spinoff) of mat (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mat) wrestling (the competitive sport) but instead takes place inside of a ring and is arguably (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=arguably) more deadly/dangerous than any contact sport despite being labeled as "fake" by people who dislike it.

Avant
03-20-2019, 02:33 AM
Footballers who ended up in the rasslin' biz

JBL
Fritz Von Erich..........Legend
Danny Spivey
The Rock
Paul "Mr. Wonderful" Ornford
Tully Blachard..........................West Texas St
Goldberg
Butch Reed
Roman Reigns
Russ Francis....................sorta
Verne Gagne............................................. ...................Legend
Manny "Raggin' Bull" Fernandez.......West Texas State
Lex Luger
Dick the Brusier..................Legend
Goldberg
Bill Watts
Ron Simmons
Tito Santana..............West Texas State
Big Van Vadar
Blackjack Mullighan........West Texas State
Dusty Rhodes......West Texas State..................Legend
Stan "Lariat" Hansen....West Texas State
Brian Pillman
Ted Dibiase.....West Texas State
Terry Funk......West Texas State
Brusier Brodie....West Texas State
Wahoo McDaneil
Bronko Nagurki.............................Hall of Fame
Angelo Mosca
Bobby Duncum....West Texas State
Ernie Ladd
Junkyard Dog
Don Manoukian
Woody Strode
Leo "Lion" Nomellini......................................... .......Hall of Fame
Dory Funk Jr............West Texas State..........Legend

Most famous footballer out of West Texas State, this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1BOMtEcZO0

DMC
03-20-2019, 06:35 AM
pro wrestling (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pro%20wrestling)

A rehearsed spinoff (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spinoff) of mat (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mat) wrestling (the competitive sport) but instead takes place inside of a ring and is arguably (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=arguably) more deadly/dangerous than any contact sport despite being labeled as "fake" by people who dislike it.

Then stunt guys are also athletes and being a stuntman is a sport.

December Romo
03-20-2019, 08:04 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_in_the_United_States

Professional wrestling (often shortened to pro wrestlingor simply wrestling) is a form of performing art and entertainment which combines athletics with theatrical performance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling

December Romo
03-20-2019, 08:06 AM
So DMC is right...pro wrestling is closer to a bunch of stuntmen acting out a scene than it is any real competition.

clambake
03-20-2019, 09:44 AM
imagine believing its real for 12 years.

140
03-20-2019, 09:54 AM
imagine believing its real for 12 years.

Imagine realizing it's fake and still take it seriously for like the next 60 :lol

Blake
03-20-2019, 10:14 AM
pro wrestling (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pro%20wrestling)

A rehearsed spinoff (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spinoff) of mat (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mat) wrestling (the competitive sport) but instead takes place inside of a ring and is arguably (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=arguably) more deadly/dangerous than any contact sport despite being labeled as "fake" by people who dislike it.

I liked it when I was a kid but I still label it fake.

Chucho
03-20-2019, 10:43 AM
It's a performance of simulated combat like a Starwars or superhero movie. No one calls those real. This coming from the Pro Rasslin Expert.

Millennial_Messiah
03-20-2019, 01:26 PM
Great athlete putting their bodies on the line, that took months to train for, all trying to out do the other and get that big $$$$$$$$$, yep....sport.

So in that case, everyone who played Superman is actually a hyper-anthro magician who can save the world?

spurraider21
03-20-2019, 01:31 PM
But there is competition.

All these guys come in wanting to main event WRESTLEMANIA, make the big $$$$$$$$$. They are competing to be the best in the biz, be a Champion.
the "competition" doesn't occur during the actual wrestling "match" though. you're conflating two different things

DJR210
03-20-2019, 03:27 PM
:lol Avante is sharing the video I used to educate him that "flippy shit" and "flying around" was superior to his 1950's bullshit.. classic avante flip flop

Avant
03-20-2019, 05:02 PM
imagine believing its real for 12 years.

I didn't watch the rasslin' as a baby/toddler....sheesh~~~~ Thinking around 59 when I got into it with granny, she loved it. I was 10 in 59, so....two years... back when they did try yo hide the fakery.

Avant
03-20-2019, 05:03 PM
:lol Avante is sharing the video I used to educate him that "flippy shit" and "flying around" was superior to his 1950's bullshit.. classic avante flip flop

But it's not, it's totally inferior...BUT....more athletic.

Mitch
03-20-2019, 07:28 PM
I dunno, Avante. I respect pro wrestlers, that shit is hard and obviously breaks the body down. Problem is that the competition we witness is scripted and just because the wasslers compete to gain enough starpower to become a champ doesn't make it competitive like a sport.

Now that's not to say wrasslers don't deserve the respect athletes get because some of them are amazing athletes who can do more than just execute some fancy moves. They can act, hype up crowds, think on the feet when moves are botched, etc. At the end of the day, it's a performance art tbh.

Avant
03-20-2019, 08:01 PM
I dunno, Avante. I respect pro wrestlers, that shit is hard and obviously breaks the body down. Problem is that the competition we witness is scripted and just because the wasslers compete to gain enough starpower to become a champ doesn't make it competitive like a sport.

Now that's not to say wrasslers don't deserve the respect athletes get because some of them are amazing athletes who can do more than just execute some fancy moves. They can act, hype up crowds, think on the feet when moves are botched, etc. At the end of the day, it's a performance art tbh.

There aren't sports where the only one you are competing against is yourself? Which those guys are doing.


Non-Competitive Sports to Consider


Canoeing.
Kayaking.
Archery.
Aerobics.
Recreational Dance.
Hiking.
Backpacking.
Fishing.

Mitch
03-20-2019, 10:25 PM
There aren't sports where the only one you are competing against is yourself? Which those guys are doing.


Non-Competitive Sports to Consider


Canoeing.
Kayaking.
Archery.
Aerobics.
Recreational Dance.
Hiking.
Backpacking.
Fishing.



If Fishing is a sport, then maybe I'd let wrasslin pass as a sport :lol

Avant
03-20-2019, 10:28 PM
If Fishing is a sport, then maybe I'd let wrasslin pass as a sport :lol

Ha~

Chucho
03-20-2019, 11:32 PM
If Fishing is a sport, then maybe I'd let wrasslin pass as a sport :lol

Fishing is a sport. Fishing is HUGE. There are tournaments everywhere and it takes a shit load of skill. It's essentially golf, but less homos and takes more skill and equipment.

Avant
03-20-2019, 11:37 PM
Speaking of fishing.

You can never ever compete vs anyone and it is still a sport.

If just standing there with a pole in hand is a sport, how could pro wrestling not be a sport?

Chucho
03-21-2019, 12:12 AM
Speaking of fishing.

You can never ever compete vs anyone and it is still a sport.

If just standing there with a pole in hand is a sport, how could pro wrestling not be a sport?


A sport is something anyone that is physically able can partake in at any level. People dont recreationally start wrestling, it isnt something you can go into the sports section at Walmart and get gear for.

Avant
03-21-2019, 12:29 AM
A sport is something anyone that is physically able can partake in at any level. People dont recreationally start wrestling, it isnt something you can go into the sports section at Walmart and get gear for.

When ya want to read about anything and have to go to the sports section in a newspaper to do that, yep....sport.

When you read about it in SI/ESPN....yep sport.

When you check out lists where the most popular sports are listed and there it is, yep...sport.

When ya check out the most successful pay per view sporting events and there it is, yep....sport.

When you go to any library asking for books on it and are told.....go to the sports section, yep.....a sport.

When you go to any book store anywhere and ask....any books on it...and are told...check the sports section, yep....a sport.

When you come here to ST looking to talk about it and find it at General Sports, yep....a sport.

Mitch
03-21-2019, 06:26 PM
Fishing is a sport. Fishing is HUGE. There are tournaments everywhere and it takes a shit load of skill. It's essentially golf, but less homos and takes more skill and equipment.

It doesn't seem to fit into the definition of a sport, tbh. No knock on fishing, though.

At least in golf you have a mostly static course and everybody takes a shot at it to see who can do it with the fewest shots.

SpursforSix
03-21-2019, 08:27 PM
It doesn't seem to fit into the definition of a sport, tbh. No knock on fishing, though.

At least in golf you have a mostly static course and everybody takes a shot at it to see who can do it with the fewest shots.

What the fuck are you trying to say. Sometimes Mitch...you say some retarded sounding shit. Regardless of what you mean.

No offense though.

Mitch
03-21-2019, 09:04 PM
What the fuck are you trying to say. Sometimes Mitch...you say some retarded sounding shit. Regardless of what you mean.

No offense though.

sorry, s46, lemme dumb it down for you

fishing no sport but me respect fishing

golf different. each player hit ball to same hole, almost no change. winner hit ball fewest times

Millennial_Messiah
03-21-2019, 09:33 PM
It doesn't seem to fit into the definition of a sport, tbh. No knock on fishing, though.

At least in golf you have a mostly static course and everybody takes a shot at it to see who can do it with the fewest shots.

Fishing is too much luck to be a sport. It might as well be War, Gin, or Kings in the Corner... or, you know, "Go Fish".

leemajors
03-21-2019, 10:03 PM
you must suck at gin.