Mueller Delivers Report on Russia Investigation to Attorney General

[Chris]

Cenk already on it :tu


https://twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1109225248002441216

[rmt]

The biggest threat to Trump 2020 is his asinine Twitter posts. He is a fucking embarrassment to himself and is just too fucking stupid to realize it.

He needs to stop with the stupid tweets especially the ones about McCain and stick to economy, ISIS, GND/socialism/how much it would cost - all day long.

[pgardn]

The biggest threat to Trump 2020 is his asinine Twitter posts. He is a fucking embarrassment to himself and is just too fucking stupid to realize it.

This and the fact that he lies about almost anything.

[ducks]

This and the fact that he lies about almost anything.keeps more promises then Reagan and the ones after him combined



https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/54729272_2186482951400570_4873349620966621184_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=72f1e53dd1067b001fa939904379e169&oe=5D126BBA

[DeadbeatDadCuck]

keeps more promises then Reagan and the ones after him combined



https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/54729272_2186482951400570_4873349620966621184_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=72f1e53dd1067b001fa939904379e169&oe=5D126BBA

Right wing propaganda.

[Chris]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2ZUTegXgAA76uj.jpg:large

[Pavlov]

Troll post.

[Chris]

"Memes are scary. I'm scared."
-Pavlov

[Pavlov]

"Memes are scary. I'm scared."
-PavlovI never said anything about being scared.

I said it was a troll post.

You're trolling.

[CitizenDwayne]

The biggest threat to Trump 2020 is his asinine Twitter posts. He is a fucking embarrassment to himself and is just too fucking stupid to realize it.
This makes me happy to read. I salute you sir. Convert your comrades

[Trainwreck2100]

This makes me happy to read. I salute you sir. Convert your comrades

Oh please, if he felt his vote counted he would swallow his pride and vote Trump, like he did for Cruz

[boutons_deux]

Right wing propaganda.

right wing LIES

[Winehole23]

Oh please, if he felt his vote counted he would swallow his pride and vote Trump, like he did for Cruz
There is zero doubt CC will for for anyone else but Trump. His blind hatred for Dems defeats all his scruples.

[pgardn]

keeps more promises then Reagan and the ones after him combined



https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/54729272_2186482951400570_4873349620966621184_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=72f1e53dd1067b001fa939904379e169&oe=5D126BBA

We were promised a bigger and better health care plan.
Where is it ?

Trump said they had a plan and red team had nothing.
Lies aside, promises are also broken.

How many bestest people for the job have been fired?

[Th'Pusher]

He needs to stop with the stupid tweets especially the ones about McCain and stick to economy, ISIS, GND/socialism/how much it would cost - all day long.

You have no credibility when it comes to chiding the government for spending. You whined about the debt and deficit under Obama but have watched idly as both have skyrocketed under your master.

[TSA]

It's official: Russiagate is this generation's WMD
The Iraq

“The biggest thing this affair has uncovered so far is Donald Trump paying off a porn star. That’s a hell of a long way from what this business was supposedly about at the beginning, and shame on any reporter who tries to pretend this isn’t so.

The story hyped from the start was espionage: a secret relationship between the Trump campaign and Russian spooks who’d helped him win the election.

The betrayal narrative was not reported at first as metaphor. It was not “Trump likes the Russians so much, he might as well be a spy for them.” It was literal spying, treason, and election-fixing – crimes so severe, former NSA employee John Schindler told reporters, Trump “will die in jail.”

In the early months of this scandal, the New York Times said Trump’s campaign had “repeated contacts” with Russian intelligence; the Wall Street Journal told us our spy agencies were withholding intelligence from the new President out of fear he was compromised; news leaked out our spy chiefs had even told other countries like Israel not to share their intel with us, because the Russians might have “leverages of pressure” on Trump.

CNN told us Trump officials had been in “constant contact” with “Russians known to U.S. intelligence,” and the former director of the CIA, who’d helped kick-start the investigation that led to Mueller’s probe, said the President was guilty of “high crimes and misdemeanors,” committing acts “nothing short of treasonous.”

Hillary Clinton insisted Russians “could not have known how to weaponize” political ads unless they’d been “guided” by Americans. Asked if she meant Trump, she said, “It’s pretty hard not to.” Harry Reid similarly said he had “no doubt” that the Trump campaign was “in on the deal” to help Russians with the leak.

None of this has been walked back. To be clear, if Trump were being blackmailed by Russian agencies like the FSB or the GRU, if he had any kind of relationship with Russian intelligence, that would soar over the “overwhelming and bipartisan” standard, and Nancy Pelosi would be damning torpedoes for impeachment right now.

There was never real gray area here. Either Trump is a compromised foreign agent, or he isn’t. If he isn’t, news outlets once again swallowed a massive disinformation campaign, only this error is many orders of magnitude more stupid than any in the recent past, WMD included. Honest reporters like ABC’s Terry Moran understand: Mueller coming back empty-handed on collusion means a “reckoning for the media.”

Of course, there won’t be such a reckoning. (There never is). But there should be. We broke every written and unwritten rule in pursuit of this story, starting with the prohibition on reporting things we can’t confirm.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russiagate-is-wmd-times-a-million

[Winehole23]

Did a million people die as a result of the Mueller report?

[CitizenDwayne]

It's official: Russiagate is this generation's WMD
The Iraq

“The biggest thing this affair has uncovered so far is Donald Trump paying off a porn star. That’s a hell of a long way from what this business was supposedly about at the beginning, and shame on any reporter who tries to pretend this isn’t so.

The story hyped from the start was espionage: a secret relationship between the Trump campaign and Russian spooks who’d helped him win the election.

The betrayal narrative was not reported at first as metaphor. It was not “Trump likes the Russians so much, he might as well be a spy for them.” It was literal spying, treason, and election-fixing – crimes so severe, former NSA employee John Schindler told reporters, Trump “will die in jail.”

In the early months of this scandal, the New York Times said Trump’s campaign had “repeated contacts” with Russian intelligence; the Wall Street Journal told us our spy agencies were withholding intelligence from the new President out of fear he was compromised; news leaked out our spy chiefs had even told other countries like Israel not to share their intel with us, because the Russians might have “leverages of pressure” on Trump.

CNN told us Trump officials had been in “constant contact” with “Russians known to U.S. intelligence,” and the former director of the CIA, who’d helped kick-start the investigation that led to Mueller’s probe, said the President was guilty of “high crimes and misdemeanors,” committing acts “nothing short of treasonous.”

Hillary Clinton insisted Russians “could not have known how to weaponize” political ads unless they’d been “guided” by Americans. Asked if she meant Trump, she said, “It’s pretty hard not to.” Harry Reid similarly said he had “no doubt” that the Trump campaign was “in on the deal” to help Russians with the leak.

None of this has been walked back. To be clear, if Trump were being blackmailed by Russian agencies like the FSB or the GRU, if he had any kind of relationship with Russian intelligence, that would soar over the “overwhelming and bipartisan” standard, and Nancy Pelosi would be damning torpedoes for impeachment right now.

There was never real gray area here. Either Trump is a compromised foreign agent, or he isn’t. If he isn’t, news outlets once again swallowed a massive disinformation campaign, only this error is many orders of magnitude more stupid than any in the recent past, WMD included. Honest reporters like ABC’s Terry Moran understand: Mueller coming back empty-handed on collusion means a “reckoning for the media.”

Of course, there won’t be such a reckoning. (There never is). But there should be. We broke every written and unwritten rule in pursuit of this story, starting with the prohibition on reporting things we can’t confirm.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russiagate-is-wmd-times-a-million
Lol no

[Winehole23]

No doubt, a giant black eye for a lot of news orgs, but the comparison is way off base.

[Winehole23]

Benghazi seems a better fit.

[boutons_deux]

Lol no

... as if Repugs EVER admitted that they LIED to the world about Saddam's WMD, and nor admitted that invading Iraq was for oil.

(Repug obsession with VZ is about oil, not VZ society)

Again, my brilliant guess is that Mueller found collusion and all sorts of other crimes, put it all in the report, for the Congressional branch, (not for Special COUNSEL) to prosecute the Exec branch President.

Mueller rolled up only the non-President criminals.

[DarrinS]

It's official: Russiagate is this generation's WMD
The Iraq

“The biggest thing this affair has uncovered so far is Donald Trump paying off a porn star. That’s a hell of a long way from what this business was supposedly about at the beginning, and shame on any reporter who tries to pretend this isn’t so.

The story hyped from the start was espionage: a secret relationship between the Trump campaign and Russian spooks who’d helped him win the election.

The betrayal narrative was not reported at first as metaphor. It was not “Trump likes the Russians so much, he might as well be a spy for them.” It was literal spying, treason, and election-fixing – crimes so severe, former NSA employee John Schindler told reporters, Trump “will die in jail.”

In the early months of this scandal, the New York Times said Trump’s campaign had “repeated contacts” with Russian intelligence; the Wall Street Journal told us our spy agencies were withholding intelligence from the new President out of fear he was compromised; news leaked out our spy chiefs had even told other countries like Israel not to share their intel with us, because the Russians might have “leverages of pressure” on Trump.

CNN told us Trump officials had been in “constant contact” with “Russians known to U.S. intelligence,” and the former director of the CIA, who’d helped kick-start the investigation that led to Mueller’s probe, said the President was guilty of “high crimes and misdemeanors,” committing acts “nothing short of treasonous.”

Hillary Clinton insisted Russians “could not have known how to weaponize” political ads unless they’d been “guided” by Americans. Asked if she meant Trump, she said, “It’s pretty hard not to.” Harry Reid similarly said he had “no doubt” that the Trump campaign was “in on the deal” to help Russians with the leak.

None of this has been walked back. To be clear, if Trump were being blackmailed by Russian agencies like the FSB or the GRU, if he had any kind of relationship with Russian intelligence, that would soar over the “overwhelming and bipartisan” standard, and Nancy Pelosi would be damning torpedoes for impeachment right now.

There was never real gray area here. Either Trump is a compromised foreign agent, or he isn’t. If he isn’t, news outlets once again swallowed a massive disinformation campaign, only this error is many orders of magnitude more stupid than any in the recent past, WMD included. Honest reporters like ABC’s Terry Moran understand: Mueller coming back empty-handed on collusion means a “reckoning for the media.”

Of course, there won’t be such a reckoning. (There never is). But there should be. We broke every written and unwritten rule in pursuit of this story, starting with the prohibition on reporting things we can’t confirm.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russiagate-is-wmd-times-a-million


Long read, but worth it.

[Reck]

Benghazi seems a better fit.

Except key Trump people were indicted/cooperated/sent to prison for their deeds.

If anything, Trump exposed himself and his people and paid for it. Maybe not Trump himself but the rest sure did.

[boutons_deux]

We were promised a bigger and better health care plan.
Where is it ?


promised a wall? nothing

promised lower drug prices? nothing

opioid crisis? nothing

iow, REAL progress? nothing

while screwing 10Ms of his cult mob (farmers, wage earners, etc)

promised NEVER to touch Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, the proposes a budget cutting $Ts from all 3

[boutons_deux]

No doubt, a giant black eye for a lot of news orgs, but the comparison is way off base.

Mueller's report is still secret, so news orgs can't be condemned, yet

Dems commit to going to SCOTUS if the report isn't fully released.

[rmt]

You have no credibility when it comes to chiding the government for spending. You whined about the debt and deficit under Obama but have watched idly as both have skyrocketed under your master.

What - you mean Obama's stupid Cash for Clunkers or his wasteful shovel-ready jobs? Surely you don't think that anything Trump does is going to cost what/more than the GND will cost?

[Pavlov]

What - you mean Obama's stupid Cash for Clunkers or his wasteful shovel-ready jobs? Surely you don't think that anything Trump does is going to cost what/more than the GND will cost?

:lol he's certainly running the government like one of his businesses....

1109159163135971331

[Mikeanaro]

1109665691236356097

[Th'Pusher]

What - you mean Obama's stupid Cash for Clunkers or his wasteful shovel-ready jobs? Surely you don't think that anything Trump does is going to cost what/more than the GND will cost?

So you don’t take issue with trump’s trillion dollar deficit?

[Pavlov]

How is it a slam dunk if no one knows what's in the report?

[Pavlov]

:lol

1109779990328020998

[Mitch]

:lol 1600 page circle jerk and boom

[ducks]

WATCH: MSNBC Hosts Suspect Mueller Has Been Compromised, Report Shows 'Seeds Of A Cover Up


https://www.dailywire.com/news/45038/watch-msnbc-hosts-suspect-mueller-has-been-emily-zanotti?%3Futm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand

[Winehole23]

Mueller's report is still secret, so news orgs can't be condemned, yet

Dems commit to going to SCOTUS if the report isn't fully released.The Russians didn't hack the ballot box.

Because of breathless conspiratard reporting about sixty percent of Democrats think they did.

[pgardn]

promised a wall? nothing

promised lower drug prices? nothing

opioid crisis? nothing

iow, REAL progress? nothing

while screwing 10Ms of his cult mob (farmers, wage earners, etc)

promised NEVER to touch Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, the proposes a budget cutting $Ts from all 3

I picked the first of many.
And probably the one that could have the largest longterm health and wealth impact.

[hater]

I’m not saying there was criminal conduct, that’s something Mueller knows. Clearly he tough it was specious enough to lie about it. However, being this was a Russian collusion investigation, he obviously was a guy that had direct dealings with Russian government officials, that’s what I’m pointing out.

I doubt flyn lied on purpose. Most likely he forgot he had talked to d ambassador

[Pavlov]

I doubt flyn lied on purpose. Most likely he forgot he had talked to d ambassador:lol Flynn said he lied. Flynn didn't say he forgot.

[Winehole23]

Wonder why he pled guilty to the lie if it was an accident.

[Pavlov]

Oh, I forgot. Ima put my house up for sale now.

[pgardn]

I doubt flyn lied on purpose. Most likely he forgot he had talked to d ambassador

You are an idiot...

[Spurs Homer]

Cover up

russia wins

[boutons_deux]

"he forgot he had talked to d ambassador"

didn't he call Russia 5 times in one day? talking about Trash lifting sanctions? he forgot? :lol y'all's stupidity, ignorance, cult devotion is without limits

[Reck]

Send red roses to Djohn.

[CitizenDwayne]

Shit.

[hater]

It's official now :lmao

[baseline bum]

https://mobile.twitter.com/repjerrynadler/status/1109902268743196674

Kind of figured this would be the case when neither Uday nor Cuckner was indicted.

[clambake]

boo

hiss

[FrostKing]

L

[Mikeanaro]

https://mobile.twitter.com/repjerrynadler/status/1109902268743196674
We dont have anything, but still he is guilty because we say so, boo hoo.

[Spurs Homer]

Mueller did not make the

”decision”

if trump obstructed

he left it open and barr decided to not hold trump accountable

sure, nothing wrong with allowing trumps henchman making the final decision

you can have this type of democracy

dont be upset when a dem president is also above the law

[Reck]

:lol are you really this retarded? Mueller is saying “Trump obstructed justice but it can’t be adequately proven in a court of law”, which is still a win for Trump, just not a complete exoneration.

It does not say "he obstructed justice but..." Stop being disingenuous.

lol this sucks but you have to swallow the results. It's over for all intent and purposes.

Unless there is a huge turn around and Mueller himself speaks and says this is not what my report says then just forget about it.

Just be thankful we're a year and a half until we can actually vote him out...unless the bernietards decide to go full retard again when he doesn't win the nomination again.

[baseline bum]

Just be thankful we're a year and a half until we can actually vote him out...unless the bernietards decide to go full retard again when he doesn't win the nomination again.

Considering where Clinton has left the party they were right

[Reck]

Considering where Clinton has left the party they were right

Didn't she save the party from total collapse? :lol DNC being broke and being bought out by her.

I reckon if she didn't infuse millions into it, we'd have no party---which coincidently would have probably been a better deal.

[Mikeanaro]

:lol are you really this retarded? Mueller is saying “Trump obstructed justice but it can’t be adequately proven in a court of law”, which is still a win for Trump, just not a complete exoneration.
No, Mueller is saying ¨we have nothing on him, after 2 years and lots of money wasted, we need to say the buh bye liberal commies¨
Let it go, find a place where you and DJohn can hug and cry to alleviate the pain.

[hater]

:lmao snowflakes

Still in denial

:lmao :lmao

[Mikeanaro]

:lmao you caring so much about American politics from your goat shanty in some 3rd world shithole :lmao
Is not that I care, its you that dont have a clue about whats happening in your own country.

[hater]

Why would Mueller compile obstruction evidence just to say there’s no obstruction? He clearly saw obstruction but not a clear path to nail Trump with it.

You are in the state called denial, snowflake

Make your way towards your nearest safe space because the state of Grievance is approaching :lmao

[hater]

:lmao and you believed Gorilla TV :lmao

I love that channel tbqh

[Mikeanaro]

:lmao I’m not reading about it on a Dell running Windows 95 while tending to goats either :lmao
Lol, so Im eating dry turds from goats while posting stuff here using my Commodore 64 with a 14.4 modem and you are lecturing us from your luxury mansion?
8k resolution, tri sli setup rig 560 hz monitor?

[Will Hunting]

Didn't she save the party from total collapse? :lol DNC being broke and being bought out by her.

I reckon if she didn't infuse millions into it, we'd have no party---which coincidently would have probably been a better deal.
It’s hilarious that you claim to not be a Hillary fan.

[DMC]

https://i.imgur.com/wL5IFtd.jpg

:lol

[ElNono]

If you care about democracy, you should be pretty happy with both on how the investigation was conducted and the final result, tbh...

I'm sure Democrats in Congress will try to make political moves over this thing regardless, but considering Mueller's fine work on this, they should really think twice about it.

[boutons_deux]

If you care about democracy, you should be pretty happy with both on how the investigation was conducted and the final result, tbh...

I'm sure Democrats in Congress will try to make political moves over this thing regardless, but considering Mueller's fine work on this, they should really think twice about it.

Mueller concluded NOTHING about obstruction, one way or the other.

[ElNono]

Mueller concluded NOTHING about obstruction, one way or the other.

lol raging mad

[Reck]

It’s hilarious that you claim to not be a Hillary fan.

I'm beyond tired of saying I am not. I live in reality, however.

Maybe I should start saying Benghazi was her fault and point out several inaccuracies to get my point accross...

[DMC]

I'm beyond tired of saying I am not. I live in reality, however.

Maybe I should start saying Benghazi was her fault and point out several inaccuracies to get my point accross...


Hillary is the real MVP.

Proving she's substantially smarter than Trump and his lackies. Spends nearly 11 hours under oath in congress and gets interviewed by the FBI and gets by unscathed. :lol

Trumpies cant even go day without blatantly lying.

[boutons_deux]

lol raging mad

nope

G F Y

[Spurs Homer]

If you care about democracy, you should be pretty happy with both on how the investigation was conducted and the final result, tbh...

I'm sure Democrats in Congress will try to make political moves over this thing regardless, but considering Mueller's fine work on this, they should really think twice about it.

id rather wait to read muellers report directly

sessions fired - trump was happy once he found barr

barr not trustworthy

huge cover up

[Spirit Cooked Reck]

I'm beyond tired of saying I am not. I live in reality, however.

Maybe I should start saying Benghazi was her fault and point out several inaccuracies to get my point accross...

Hillary is an angel. Eleanor just told me.

[boutons_deux]

Factbox: Guilty pleas, indictments abound in Trump-Russia probe

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russia’s role in the 2016 U.S. election has ensnared dozens of people, including several advisers to President Donald Trump and a series of Russian nationals and companies.

PAUL MANAFORT

Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman, guilty of five counts of tax fraud, was sentenced to a combined 7-1/2 years in prison in two cases brought by Mueller in which he was convicted by a jury in Virginia in August 2018 and pleaded guilty a month later in Washington.
In Virginia, he was found guilty of five counts of tax fraud, two counts of bank fraud and one count of failing to disclose foreign bank accounts.

Manafort, who prosecutors said tried to conceal from the U.S. government millions of dollars he was paid as a political consultant for pro-Russian Ukrainian politicians, pleaded guilty to two counts of conspiracy in a separate case in Washington and agreed to cooperate with Mueller. The Washington case had focused on accusations of money laundering and failing to report foreign bank accounts, among other charges.

A judge on Feb. 13 ruled that Manafort had breached his agreement to cooperate with Mueller by lying to prosecutors about three matters pertinent to the Russia probe including his interactions with a business partner, Konstantin Kilimnik, who they have said has ties to Russian intelligence.

MICHAEL COHEN

Cohen, Trump’s former personal lawyer, pleaded guilty in August 2018 to crimes including orchestrating “hush money” payments before the 2016 election to women who have said they had sexual encounters with Trump, violating campaign laws. That case was handled by federal prosecutors in New York, not Mueller’s office.

As part of a separate agreement with Mueller’s team, Cohen pleaded guilty in November 2018 to lying to Congress about negotiations concerning a proposed Trump Tower in Moscow, a project that never materialized.

Cohen is due to report to prison on May 6 to begin serving a three-year prison sentence.

Cohen in February 2019 testified at a public hearing before a House of Representatives committee. He accused Trump of approving the “hush money” payments and knowing in advance about the 2016 release by the WikiLeaks website of emails that prosecutors have said were stolen by Russia to harm Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s presidential bid. He said Trump implicitly directed him to lie about the Moscow real estate project.

He promised to keep cooperating with prosecutors and made multiple closed-door appearances before congressional panels.

MICHAEL FLYNN

Flynn, Trump’s national security adviser for less than a month in early 2017, pleaded guilty in December 2017 to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russia during Trump’s presidential transition and agreed to cooperate with Mueller.

Trump fired him as national security adviser after it emerged that Flynn had misled Vice President Mike Pence and the FBI about his dealings with the then-Russian ambassador to the United States, Sergey Kislyak. His sentencing is pending.

ROGER STONE

The longtime Trump ally and presidential campaign adviser was charged in January 2019 with seven criminal counts including obstruction of an official proceeding, witness tampering and making false statements, pleading not guilty.

His trial date has been set for Nov. 5.

Prosecutors said Stone shared with members of the Trump campaign team advance knowledge of the plan by WikiLeaks to release the stolen Democratic emails. Prosecutors also accused him of trying to interfere with a witness, a radio host who matched the profile of Randy Credico.

RICK GATES

The former deputy chairman of Trump’s campaign, Gates pleaded guilty in February 2018 to conspiracy against the United States and lying to investigators. He agreed to cooperate with Mueller and testified as a prosecution witness against Manafort, his former business partner. His sentencing is pending.

KONSTANTIN KILIMNIK

A Manafort aide in Ukraine and a political operative described by prosecutors as linked to Russian intelligence, Kilimnik was charged in June 2018 with tampering with witnesses about their past lobbying for Ukraine’s former pro-Russian government.

Prosecutors said in January 2019 that Manafort shared political polling data with Kilimnik in 2016, providing an indication that Trump’s campaign may have tried to coordinate with Russians.

TWELVE RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS

Twelve Russian intelligence officers were indicted by a federal grand jury in July 2018, accused of hacking the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party organizations as part of a Russian scheme to release emails damaging to Clinton during the 2016 race. They covertly monitored employee computers and planted malicious code, as well as stealing emails and other documents, according to the indictment.

THIRTEEN RUSSIAN NATIONALS, THREE COMPANIES

Thirteen Russians and three Russian companies were indicted in Mueller’s investigation in February 2018, accused of taking part in an elaborate campaign to sow discord in the United States ahead of the 2016 election and harm Clinton’s candidacy in order to boost Trump. The companies included: the Internet Research Agency, a St. Petersburg-based propaganda arm known for trolling on social media; Concord Management and Consulting; and Concord Catering.

GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS

The former Trump campaign adviser was sentenced in September 2018 to 14 days in prison after pleading guilty in October 2017 to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian officials, including a professor who told him the Russians had “dirt” on Clinton.

ALEX VAN DER ZWAAN

A lawyer who once worked closely with Manafort and Gates, Van Der Zwaan pleaded guilty in February 2018 to lying to Mueller’s investigators about contacts with a Trump campaign official. Van Der Zwaan, the Dutch son-in-law of one of Russia’s richest men, was sentenced in April 2018 to 30 days in prison and fined $20,000.

RICHARD PINEDO

Pinedo was not involved with the Trump campaign, but in February 2018 pleaded guilty to identity fraud in a case related to the Mueller investigation for helping Russian conspirators launder money, purchase Facebook ads and pay for supplies.

He was sentenced in October 2018 to six months in jail and six months of home detention.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-cases-factbox/factbox-guilty-pleas-indictments-abound-in-trump-russia-probe-idUSKCN1R50TE?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

[Reck]

DMC (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665) What exactly is wrong with that assumption?

Saying someone is substantially smarter than Trump should be a given. But to reassert what I said about hillary being smarter than Trump. She is. lol fatboi

[Spurtacular]

I'm beyond tired of saying I am not. I live in reality, however.

Maybe I should start saying Benghazi was her fault and point out several inaccuracies to get my point accross...

The facts will suffice.

[Will Hunting]

I'm beyond tired of saying I am not. I live in reality, however.
Right, you’re not a Hillary fan, you just live in the completely unbiased reality that Hillary is the Democratic Party’s savior.

[Spurtacular]

DMC (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665) What exactly is wrong with that assumption?

Saying someone is substantially smarter than Trump should be a given. But to reassert what I said about hillary being smarter than Trump. She is. lol fatboi

:lmao "Unscathed" by an FBI that has already been shown to be in league with her. :lmao

[Reck]

Right, you’re not a Hillary fan, you just live in the completely unbiased reality that Hillary is the Democratic Party’s savior.

I said that she gave millions to bail out the DNC from bankruptcy which is true. It was reported on by the news.

BUT HEY--BIASED.

[Will Hunting]

I said that she gave millions to bail out the DNC from bankruptcy which is true. It was reported on by the news.

BUT HEY--BIASED.
She gave millions after the DNC bankrupted itself funneling money into her primary campaign. You’re biased for reporting the part where she gave money and omitting the part where she caused the DNCs need for money.

[boutons_deux]

Imagine if Comey had done this Trash report the way he didn't find any Hillary crimes.

Comey would go on TV and trash Trash for 2 hours, but not indict him

[Reck]

She gave millions after the DNC bankrupted itself funneling money into her primary campaign. You’re biased for reporting the part where she gave money and omitting the part where she caused the DNCs need for money.

That's not how I interpreted it.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

The DNC had money problems long before 2015 per their own admission.

[Spurtacular]

I said that she gave millions to bail out the DNC from bankruptcy which is true. It was reported on by the news.

BUT HEY--BIASED.

Hillary's so generous.

[Will Hunting]

That's not how I interpreted it.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

The DNC had money problems long before 2015 per their own admission.
:lmao Donna spear chucking n!ggerbitch Brazile
:lmao citing one of the biggest Clinton lapdogs in the Democratic Party

[Spurtacular]

That's not how I interpreted it.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

The DNC had money problems long before 2015 per their own admission.

So, you linked an article that has the DNC chair openly admitting that Hillary and the DNC rigged the 2016 nomination process to make whatever small point you're trying to make while ultimately shitting on your overarching point that Hillary was not corrupt.

:lmao You need to get back to rehab.

[boutons_deux]

Repugs and Repug DoJ LYING profusely

[Spurtacular]

:lmao Donna spear chucking n!ggerbitch Brazile
:lmao citing one of the biggest Clinton lapdogs in the Democratic Party

Like I just said, in the article Donna say Hillary rigged the nomination process. Yea, she was a lapdog up until the sh** hit the fan on Nov. 8. She couldn't get further away from Hillary after that.

[Will Hunting]

Like I just said, in the article Donna say Hillary rigged the nomination process. Yea, she was a lapdog up until the sh** hit the fan on Nov. 8. She couldn't get further away from Hillary after that.
She’s one of my least favorite people in politics. I haven’t paid any attention to her post election so I’ll take your word for it but her biased coverage of the primary in 2016 was shameful.

[Trainwreck2100]

Hey the good news is our president might not be a russian agent. The bad news than is he's sucked off Putin while not being a double agent.

[Trainwreck2100]

Mueller punting on obstruction was a pussy move though, he clearly thought he was guilty, but didn't want to be the guy who accuses POTUS of a felony, officially

[boutons_deux]

Barr did the whitewash he was hired politically to deliver

Here’s how Barr avoided charging Trump — which wasn’t Mueller’s decision

National security reporter (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/24/us/politics/mueller-report-summary.html) Marcy Wheeler explained how Barr dodged charging Trump.

“1) Treated the underlying crime as the 2 RU interference operations, not other potential crimes (like quid pro quo there’s tons of evidence for)” she tweeted.

2) Having defined the underlying crime as JUST the hack-and-leak and trolling, and not quid pro quo, but also having Mueller submit a legit case for obstruction, they said, "if not hack-and-leak, then not obstruction."

“They only considered whether Trump was covering up his involvement in the hack-and-leak operation. It doesn’t consider whether Trump was covering up a quid pro quo, which is what there is abundant evidence of,”

“They didn’t consider whether Trump obstructed the crime that he appears to have obstructed.

They considered whether he obstructed a different crime.

And having considered whether Trump obstructed the crime he didn’t commit,

rather than considering whether he obstructed the crime he did commit,

they decided not to charge him with a crime.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/heres-how-barr-avoided-charging-trump-which-mueller-did-not-decide-national-security-reporter/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/heres-how-barr-avoided-charging-trump-which-mueller-did-not-decide-national-security-reporter/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

HOW WILLIAM BARR DID OLD MAN BACK-FLIPS TO AVOID ARRESTING DONALD TRUMP (https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/03/24/how-william-barr-did-old-man-back-flips-to-avoid-arresting-donald-trump/)

https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/03/24/how-william-barr-did-old-man-back-flips-to-avoid-arresting-donald-trump/ (https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/03/24/how-william-barr-did-old-man-back-flips-to-avoid-arresting-donald-trump/)

[TeyshaBlue]

Suddenly the biggest Rolling Stone libtard writer of all time is a good read because he agrees with Team Trump once :lmao

Hardly "once". Tiabbi has a history of going after either team....'s one of the many reasons I continue follow him.

[Will Hunting]

Hardly "once". Tiabbi has a history of going after either team....'s one of the many reasons I continue follow him.
Yup, if anything I've seen him go after team blue / the team blue media coverage the last few years. He was extremely critical of the Clintons way before it was the cool thing to do.

[Spurtacular]

She’s one of my least favorite people in politics. I haven’t paid any attention to her post election so I’ll take your word for it but her biased coverage of the primary in 2016 was shameful.

That's pretty much all of the media. FNC put out the hit on Ron Paul in 2012. CNN did their hit on Bernie in 2016. I don't think Brazille is special in that regard; maybe, she's not as smooth; but considering her limitations I don't hold that against her.

[Spurs Homer]

Mueller punting on obstruction was a pussy move though, he clearly thought he was guilty, but didn't want to be the guy who accuses POTUS of a felony, officially

mueller can admit he did that or he can deny it under oath- or say that barr made the decision for him

also

barr claims that he needed “an underlying crime” by trump to be able to say trump was guilty of obstruction

this is NOT what the law states

this is an obscene miscarriage of justice

rosenstein had a chance to be a patriot but sold out the doj and the usa

barr is bold as fuck to try this and the facts will be unearthed

[Spurtacular]

Hey the good news is our president might not be a russian agent. The bad news than is he's sucked off Putin while not being a double agent.

:cry Why couldn't we have got Hillary who sucked of Putin long before that :cry

[Will Hunting]

That's pretty much all of the media. FNC put out the hit on Ron Paul in 2012. CNN did their hit on Bernie in 2016. I don't think Brazille is special in that regard; maybe, she's not as smooth; but considering her limitations I don't hold that against her.
She's special in the sense she's always been an establishment lapdog, dating back well before the 2016 primary. Whenever the media/establishment want to take a populist candidate down before he builds too much primary momentum (Howard Dean (who's since become an establishment shill himself), Bernie, etc.) she's right there front and center to help out.

[Spurtacular]

Mueller punting on obstruction was a pussy move though, he clearly thought he was guilty, but didn't want to be the guy who accuses POTUS of a felony, officially

:cry Muh failed witch hunt :cry

:rollin

[Trainwreck2100]

:cry Why couldn't we have got Hillary who sucked of Putin long before that :cry

when in doubt hillary

[Trainwreck2100]

:cry Muh failed witch hunt :cry

:rollin

by comprimised muellar and the 12 angry democrats amirite?

[Spurtacular]

when in doubt hillary

No doubt; but you can't expect things to go well for you when your leader is the most corrupt person on the planet.

[Spurtacular]

by comprimised muellar and the 12 angry democrats amirite?

How is Mueller compromised?

[Spurtacular]

She's special in the sense she's always been an establishment lapdog, dating back well before the 2016 primary. Whenever the media/establishment want to take a populist candidate down before he builds too much primary momentum (Howard Dean (who's since become an establishment shill himself), Bernie, etc.) she's right there front and center to help out.

The establishment is one big pile of lapdogs. I just don't think Brazille is special in that regard.

[Will Hunting]

The part of this thread that actually is Hillary related is the fact that this should be the final dagger in the coffin of any argument that she was cheated in 2016. It's now more clear than it already was (and it was already clear) that she lost fair and square.

[Trainwreck2100]

How is Mueller compromised?

i should have said conflicted

[Trainwreck2100]

The part of this thread that actually is Hillary related is the fact that this should be the final dagger in the coffin of any argument that she was cheated in 2016. It's now more clear than it already was (and it was already clear) that she lost fair and square.

hey but now we're gonna get that hillary special council we were promised right?

[boutons_deux]

The part of this thread that actually is Hillary related is the fact that this should be the final dagger in the coffin of any argument that she was cheated in 2016. It's now more clear than it already was (and it was already clear) that she lost fair and square.

bullshit, Comey trashed her twice, violated FBI protocol, and incl 10 days before the election which Silver said cost her the 3 states that won the EC for Trash. She won PV by 2.8M votes.

[benefactor]

djohn gon cry in the car tbh

[Spurtacular]

i should have said conflicted

He's an utter professional, and his character is unimpugnable. Remember?

[Spurtacular]

Cuck factor quoting himself. Par.

[Trainwreck2100]

He's an utter professional, and his character is unimpugnable. Remember?

i was simply quoting the fuhrer.

[Spurtacular]

bullshit, Comey trashed her twice, violated FBI protocol, and incl 10 days before the election which Silver said cost her the 3 states that won the EC for Trash. She won PV by 2.8M votes.

There's an FBI protocol to hide simple truth from the electorate?

:lmao Fag boy

[Spurtacular]

i was simply quoting the fuhrer.

Two years to come up with a donut. Sad.

[Trainwreck2100]

Two years to come up with a donut. Sad.

Are you saying russia didn't interfere in the election?

[Reck]

:lmao Donna spear chucking n!ggerbitch Brazile
:lmao citing one of the biggest Clinton lapdogs in the Democratic Party

Typical response when faced with a fact.

BTW, that lapdog is now working for Fox News. :lol you

[boutons_deux]

What Barr’s Letter Says About Coming Fight With Lawmakers Over Mueller’s Report

Barr indicated that he wasn’t necessarily prepared to turn the whole report over to Congress. :lol

This could frustrate lawmakers on Capitol Hill, who have indicated that

they want to see not just the report itself,

but the underlying evidence.

Barr specifically brought up the presence of grand jury materials in Mueller’s report, which was submitted to the attorney general on Friday.

Under the law, such material can’t be made public. ( Congress is "public" )

He added that information in the report could “impact other ongoing matters”

that Mueller farmed out to U.S. Attorney’s Offices around the country.

he acknowledged, the “public interest in this matter” while vowing to release as much information as is allowed legally and under DOJ policy.

no clear timeframe for when a redacted version of the report might be released.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/what-barrs-letter-says-about-coming-fight-with-lawmakers-over-muellers-report?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

[Winehole23]

OJ Simpson couldn't be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

That's an exoneration, right?

[boutons_deux]

Trump Calls For An Investigation Into Democrats After Mueller Findings

Trump immediately twisted the Mueller finding into a false claim that Democrats broke the law and must be investigated.

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/03/24/trump-investigate-democrats.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/03/24/trump-investigate-democrats.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

[Spurtacular]

Are you saying russia didn't interfere in the election?

In a material way? Not that I've seen.

[Will Hunting]

Typical response when faced with a fact.

BTW, that lapdog is now working for Fox News. :lol you
Yeah if my goal was to convince viewers that Dems are awful people, spear chucking Donna would be my first choice as who they see every day.

[DarrinS]

OJ Simpson couldn't be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

That's an exoneration, right?


Lulz

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1109955888327155713

Mockingbird Media

[Spurtacular]

OJ Simpson couldn't be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

That's an exoneration, right?

The system is upright. Just ask Pavlov. They got it right on Hillary, obviously.

[Chris]

ChumpDumper you can retire your Pavlov troll account. The investigation is over :tu

[boutons_deux]

Barr's Summary of Russian Cyber Interference in the 2016 Election Is Comically Light on Details (https://gizmodo.com/barrs-summary-of-russian-cyber-interference-in-the-2016-1833529980)

Barr’s summary, which mostly concerns the immediate implications for Trump and states there are no further planned indictments, is... four pages.

this one basically says, “No collusion!”

There’s no explanation of how Mueller’s team determined that no “U.S. person or Trump campaign official or associate” was knowingly involved in the IRA efforts—

which more or less entailed dissemination of disinformation and propaganda on U.S. social media.

(Admittedly there was never any evidence of this, beyond speculation and some shared messaging tactics (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/12/shared-russia-trump-focus-depressing-black-votes/578302/).)

The “knowingly” part may be a reference to Richard Pinedo, a man charged with identity fraud for selling dummy bank accounts (https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/10/politics/pinedo-mueller-sentencing/index.html) to Russians that later bought Facebook ads.

likely to be more contentious is how Mueller determined Trump or his associates had no direct connection to the hack of Democratic email systems,

given

the alarming degree of contact campaign associates had with Russian actors,

the candidate’s efforts to secure a Trump Tower Moscow deal (https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2018/politics/trump-tower-moscow-timeline/index.html), and

how Trump himself challenged Russia to hack Clinton (https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/87979445-132.html).

there’s smoke, but Barr is insisting that Mueller’s investigation revealed no underlying fire.

That may well be true, but it would be nice to know how they verified nothing is burning.

the special counsel’s mission was to investigate “links and/or coordination” with the Russians (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408-Rosenstein-letter-appointing-Mueller-special.html).)

https://gizmodo.com/barrs-summary-of-russian-cyber-interference-in-the-2016-1833529980?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gizmodo%2Ffull+%28Gizmodo%29 (https://gizmodo.com/barrs-summary-of-russian-cyber-interference-in-the-2016-1833529980?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gizmodo%2Ffull+%28Gizmodo%29)

[boutons_deux]

‘In plain sight’: Counter-intelligence expert lambastes Barr claim that there was ‘no collusion’

Malcolm Nance said that he witnessed “collusion and conspiracy in plain sight,”

but special counsel Robert Mueller’s bar was so high, that unless it was observed by an agent, it’s impossible to prove.

“The part I’m mainly focused on is the question of conspiracy,” Nance told MSNBC’s Ari Melber on Sunday. “Whether there was an actual operation where, as Robert Mueller put it:

‘if there was explicit or tacit coordination’ in some way, shape or form…

We have had people who have done things before where there were, you know, there were not signs of an explicit agreement with them.

One, for example, is former CIA officer Aldrich Ames.

He started to do his treason in 1988, but

it wasn’t until he was caught making a chalk signal on the mailbox they saw an actual explicit act and then the FBI arrested him.”

Mueller’s standard was a legal one that wasn’t about winks and nudges, it had to be extremely clear.

“Well, you know, I saw all of the collusion and conspiracy in plain sight,” Nance said.

“The question is Robert Mueller’s standard for that — which is a legal standard for that —

which, to him, was if there is no a wink and a nod

that I can see or technically a signed SFB contract then I can’t bring them up on the charges.

But we have seen the things occur and in any other standard the person would have been arrested,

would have been polygraphed and

brought to trial.

I found that a high standard.

Maybe it’s a legal standard we need to take a look at, but

I want to hear him tell me

why the ‘Russia if you’re listening’ speech —

did he accept it as a joke?”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/plain-sight-counter-intelligence-expert-lambastes-barr-claim-no-collusion/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[DMC]

DMC (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665) What exactly is wrong with that assumption?

Saying someone is substantially smarter than Trump should be a given. But to reassert what I said about hillary being smarter than Trump. She is. lol fatboi

"MVP"

You were carrying her torch and everyone here knows it.

[DMC]

Boots in full repository mode now, completely off the nuthouse reservation.

[DarrinS]

‘In plain sight’: Counter-intelligence expert lambastes Barr claim that there was ‘no collusion’

Malcolm Nance said that he witnessed “collusion and conspiracy in plain sight,”

but special counsel Robert Mueller’s bar was so high, that unless it was observed by an agent, it’s impossible to prove.

“The part I’m mainly focused on is the question of conspiracy,” Nance told MSNBC’s Ari Melber on Sunday. “Whether there was an actual operation where, as Robert Mueller put it:

‘if there was explicit or tacit coordination’ in some way, shape or form…

We have had people who have done things before where there were, you know, there were not signs of an explicit agreement with them.

One, for example, is former CIA officer Aldrich Ames.

He started to do his treason in 1988, but

it wasn’t until he was caught making a chalk signal on the mailbox they saw an actual explicit act and then the FBI arrested him.”

Mueller’s standard was a legal one that wasn’t about winks and nudges, it had to be extremely clear.

“Well, you know, I saw all of the collusion and conspiracy in plain sight,” Nance said.

“The question is Robert Mueller’s standard for that — which is a legal standard for that —

which, to him, was if there is no a wink and a nod

that I can see or technically a signed SFB contract then I can’t bring them up on the charges.

But we have seen the things occur and in any other standard the person would have been arrested,

would have been polygraphed and

brought to trial.

I found that a high standard.

Maybe it’s a legal standard we need to take a look at, but

I want to hear him tell me

why the ‘Russia if you’re listening’ speech —

did he accept it as a joke?”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/plain-sight-counter-intelligence-expert-lambastes-barr-claim-no-collusion/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29





Malcolm Nance

[boutons_deux]

The Trash Shit Show is far from over

You assholes grab a Kleenex and clean yourselves up

The Many Problems With the Barr Letter

By unilaterally concluding that Mr. Trump did not obstruct justice, the attorney general has made it imperative that the public see the Mueller report.

By Neal K. Katyal

Mr. Katyal is a law professor at Georgetown. He drafted the special counsel regulations under which Robert Mueller was appointed.


Barr, in his letter, acknowledges that the Mueller report “does not exonerate” Mr. Trump on the issue of obstruction, even if it does not recommend an indictment.

But the critical part of the letter is that it now creates a whole new mess.

After laying out the scope of the investigation and noting that Mr. Mueller’s report does not offer any legal recommendations,

Mr. Barr declares that it therefore

“leaves it to the attorney general

to decide whether the conduct described in the report constitutes a crime.”

He then concludes the president did not obstruct justice when he fired the F.B.I. director, James Comey.

Such a conclusion would be momentous in any event.

But to do so within 48 hours of receiving the report (which pointedly did not reach that conclusion) should be deeply concerning to every American.

The special counsel regulations were written to provide the public with confidence that justice was done.

It is impossible for the public to reach that determination without knowing two things.

First, what did the Mueller report conclude, and

what was the evidence on obstruction of justice?

And second, how could Mr. Barr have reached his conclusion so quickly?

Mr. Barr’s letter raises far more questions than it answers, both on the facts and the law.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/24/opinion/barr-mueller-report.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

[boutons_deux]

Trump Just Got Busted For Lying About Mueller’s Findings


Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) called out Trump and his lawyers for lying about Mueller’s findings and claiming that Trump was totally exonerated.

Nadler said,

“Well, as you point out the president —

the president and his people are saying it’s a total exoneration.

That contradicts what the special counsel found.

It’s a lie

about what the special counsel found,

but we should not be surprised that they lie anymore.”

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/03/24/trump-lying-mueller-findings.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[DeadbeatDadCuck]

right wing LIES

Recognize!

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1109984734212513793

:corn:

[angrydude]

The media has lost absolutely ALL, credibility when it comes to Trump. All of it. 100%. lol. Trump just got reelected. Dumbass left.

[DarrinS]

RIP Brennan, Clapper, et. al.

[angrydude]

OJ Simpson couldn't be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

That's an exoneration, right?

Bob Mueller also didn't prove that Winehole23 is not, in fact, the Lochness Monster. I guess it's Congressional hearing time.

It's impossible to prove a negative.

lol. Dumbass.

[boutons_deux]

The media has lost absolutely ALL, credibility when it comes to Trump. All of it. 100%. lol. Trump just got reelected. Dumbass left.

The media is not credible, but Trash is? :lol

Why have Trash and mafiya "forgotten", obstructed, lied about Russia for two years?

[Chris]

RIP Brennan, Clapper, et. al.

yep


https://twitter.com/SarahPalinUSA/status/1109987115641782275

[DarrinS]

RIP, ghost of late night tv, i.e. Colbert, Kimmel, Seth, Bee, etc.

[boutons_deux]

Trash should fire Mueller

Mueller, Justice Department reportedly discussed issuing subpoena for Trump (https://theweek.com/speedreads/831119/mueller-justice-department-reportedly-discussed-issuing-subpoena-trump)

https://theweek.com/speedreads/831119/mueller-justice-department-reportedly-discussed-issuing-subpoena-trump (https://theweek.com/speedreads/831119/mueller-justice-department-reportedly-discussed-issuing-subpoena-trump)

[Monostradamus]

RIP, ghost of late night tv, i.e. Colbert, Kimmel, Seth, Bee, etc.
:lmao you think this is going to hurt them in any way?

[Winehole23]

LulzIf Mueller's report exonerated POTUS it should be no problem to release it clean and unredacted, right?

No need to rely on Barr's four page summary, let the whole world see it.

[Winehole23]

Bob Mueller also didn't prove that Winehole23 is not, in fact, the Lochness Monster. I guess it's Congressional hearing time.

It's impossible to prove a negative.

lol. Dumbass.Release the report. What possible danger could an innocent man face?

[AaronY]

:lmao you think this is going to hurt them in any way?
That great big rightwing audience they had is going to disappear

[ducks]

Democrat commentator Donna Brazile said Sunday that U.S. voters should "celebrate" that special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation determined "the Russians had no help from Americans” during the 2016 election

[Mikeanaro]

Tick Tock Tick Tock.
Mueller is playing chess, getting all the information to impeach komrade Trumpsky.

https://pics.me.me/you-scared-bro-you-sound-scared-34175952.png
Tick Tock, follow the money...

[Winehole23]

For the record, I never thought there would be any indictments and I was doubtful -- as djohn and Spurs Homer can attest -- that conspiracy would be legally provable.

That does not mean there is or will be any lack of derogatory information in the report. Doesn't mean there necessarily is derogatory info either, but posters crowing EXONERATION may eventually be eating crow, just as INDICTMENT prognosticators are today.

[DarrinS]

For the record, I never thought there would be any indictments and I was doubtful -- as djohn and Spurs Homer can attest -- that conspiracy would be legally provable.

That does not mean there is or will be any lack of derogatory information in the report. Doesn't mean there necessarily is derogatory info either, but posters crowing EXONERATION may eventually be eating crow, just as INDICTMENT prognosticators are today.


The investigation wasn't about "derogatory info".

[Mikeanaro]

http://caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/23/2018/02/18/206867_600.jpg

[Mikeanaro]

http://www.andydavey.com/images/galleries/29/blowup/749.jpeg

[Winehole23]

The investigation wasn't about "derogatory info".no, but may or may not be contained in the report, assuming we get to see it.

it's not realistic to treat Barr's summary as equivalent to the report itself.

[Winehole23]

Are you afraid of the report, Darrin?

Is there some good reason we shouldn't see it?

[DarrinS]

RIP, George Conway, last seen purchasing 3 gallons of Ben and Jerry's 'Pecan Resist '.

[DarrinS]

Are you afraid of the report, Darrin?

Is there some good reason we shouldn't see it?

Make everything public. Congress was unanimous about this.

[ElNono]

Make everything public. Congress was unanimous about this.

Barr isn't.

[DarrinS]

Barr isn't.

Are there any laws preventing him?

[ElNono]

Are there any laws preventing him?

He's allowed to try to prevent it's public release. Certainly he can make a case about in court, and I suspect he will.

[DarrinS]

He's allowed to try to prevent it's public release. Certainly he can make a case about in court, and I suspect he will.

1109967307252658176

[ElNono]

1109967307252658176

Right, and that's what he's going to hang his hat on. What's likely going to happen is Congress is going to subpoena it, then there's going to be an ensuing court battle over it.

They could also subpoena Mueller to reveal pieces in order to mount political pressure over it.

In other words, it's gonna be a protracted court battle over this, and it's unknown whether it's worth it or not. One thing is sure: Barr's word is not good enough, at least, for Democrats.

[Mikeanaro]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/89/81/c3/8981c339f9e595c7c3464f506f20efb8.jpg

[DarrinS]

Right, and that's what he's going to hang his hat on. What's likely going to happen is Congress is going to subpoena it, then there's going to be an ensuing court battle over it.

They could also subpoena Mueller to reveal pieces in order to mount political pressure over it.

In other words, it's gonna be a protracted court battle over this, and it's unknown whether it's worth it or not. One thing is sure: Barr's word is not good enough, at least, for Democrats.


Yeah, definitely subpoena Mueller. Good plan.

Honestly, I hope dems double their efforts against drumpf.

[ElNono]

It's just not really realistic to try to hide it either, tbh.... especially if it has some damning info. As I said previously, it's only a matter of time until it becomes public. Either through a leak or the next Dem administration.

It's just better if they start releasing at least redacted copies, and get the spin machine in full swing.

[DarrinS]

It's just not really realistic to try to hide it either, tbh.... especially if it has some damning info. As I said previously, it's only a matter of time until it becomes public. Either through a leak or the next Dem administration.

It's just better if they start releasing at least redacted copies, and get the spin machine in full swing.


I want it all to be public.

[boutons_deux]

giving the full report to Congress is not "public", is it?

political hack Barr was hired to protect Trash, as his personal lawyer

Dems said they will go to SCOTUS

[ElNono]

Yeah, definitely subpoena Mueller. Good plan.

Honestly, I hope dems double their efforts against drumpf.

Legally, it's actually quite interesting on how it could develop. While the DOJ is the branch that would pursue any criminal cases, it's part of the Executive branch, and a conflict of interest would be unavoidable. On the other hand, the Constitution grants the House the power to investigate to impeach, so it's likely they'll make the case that they should have authority to decide at least on that aspect, even if there's no criminal accusation. Remember Mueller was the independent investigator, but the DOJ claims no independence.

And, frankly, the Dems should double their efforts against Trump, tbh... that's something that get their base excited, so I don't foresee that changing.

[Mikeanaro]

This is getting better and better, Da Vinci Code type, Dems will go to Russian Тысячелетие России, take 12 steps to the north, 75 to the southeast, 150 nortwest, and then fart 3 times, scratch their heads until the sun aligns with the cross, and then everything will be clear to activate the switch to open the vault inside the monument.
GO GET THEM! Final Boss is Putin ala double dragon, beware of the machine gun!

[DarrinS]

Legally, it's actually quite interesting on how it could develop. While the DOJ is the branch that would pursue any criminal cases, it's part of the Executive branch, and a conflict of interest would be unavoidable. On the other hand, the Constitution grants the House the power to investigate to impeach, so it's likely they'll make the case that they should have authority to decide at least on that aspect, even if there's no criminal accusation. Remember Mueller was the independent investigator, but the DOJ claims no independence.

And, frankly, the Dems should double their efforts against Trump, tbh... that's something that get their base excited, so I don't foresee that changing.


All the dems have to do for 2020 is not be crazy. Not looking good as far.

[ElNono]

All the dems have to do for 2020 is not be crazy. Not looking good as far.

long time to go, tbh... they still need a candidate

[DMC]

The New Green Deal will solve all of this and not use a drop of oil.

[DarrinS]

long time to go, tbh... they still need a candidate

Clown car almost packed

[DarrinS]

It's too bad Oprah has no interest. She's wealthier than drumpf and would have broad appeal.

Plus, we'd all get new cars. :tu

[DMC]

It's too bad Oprah has no interest. She's wealthier than drumpf and would have broad appeal.

Plus, we'd all get new cars. :tu

Which AOC would promptly render obsolete with hoverboard travel.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RobertJohnDavi/status/1110019361958297600

[boutons_deux]

William Barr Can’t Exonerate Donald Trump

Despite what the attorney general’s letter to Congress states, his argument clearing the president of obstruction goes against established law and is profoundly dangerous.

Barr’s reasoning should not be accepted, because it sits squarely at odds with settled law and amounts to an attempt to pre-empt Congress’ constitutionally assigned role to determine if the president has committed high crimes and misdemeanors.

Barr also indicated that Mueller found evidence that the president may have obstructed the investigation but did not reach a conclusion on that issue.

. Barr’s argument thus suggests that if a subject of a criminal investigation avoids indictment for the underlying offense—whether it be insider trading, burglary, or election interference—he should not be charged with criminal liability for efforts to obstruct the investigation of the potential offense, either.
That is simply not the law. Proof of an underlying crime is not an element of an obstruction charge, and individuals are regularly charged with obstruction without facing criminal liability for an underlying offense.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/william-barr-doesnt-get-to-exonerate-donald-trump.html (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/william-barr-doesnt-get-to-exonerate-donald-trump.html)

Pelosi's decision not to impeach Trash but only beat him in 2020 is equal to letting Trash escape without full transparency and punishment.

If the state and Federal investigators find that Trash is a criminal, will Pelosi still refuse to impeach?

[boutons_deux]

Russia now knows they can get away with conning Americans: former counter-intelligence officer

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/putin.jpg

National security analyst and counter-intelligence officer Steve Hall said that Attorney General Bill Barr’s summary of the Mueller report should unite all Americans:

Russia thinks it can get away with anything

Russia attacked us in 2016 and

they did it again in 2018, and

they’re probably going to do it again in 2020 and into the future,”

“This hybrid world that they’ve developed,

part of which is trying to do influence operations and

all of the things that you were just reading.”

“And I think one thing the Russian intelligence services are thinking is,

‘Hum, now we have a much better idea as to where the channel markers are. Where the lanes in the road are,'”

“And they’re actually, I think, the Russians are probably a bit surprised at how broad they can go and next time they go against us in a hybrid-warfare type of fashion,

at the very least in 2020, they’ll know that they can probably push a little it further than they thought that they could.

They can get a little closer to that edge,

because what they’ve learned is due to our system of justice due to our open society, and how things work here,

they actually have a lot more room to work with and

still people aren’t going to be thrown into jail or,

at least the most important people aren’t going to be accused of things.

And I think that’s a very important lesson learned.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/russia-now-knows-can-get-away-conning-americans-former-counter-intelligence-officer/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/russia-now-knows-can-get-away-conning-americans-former-counter-intelligence-officer/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

America is SELF-fucked and unfuckable. And Pootin will "have his way" with the 2020 elections.

[Mikeanaro]

https://twitter.com/RobertJohnDavi/status/1110019361958297600
Davi is right, also his part in Raw Deal was excellent.

[Mikeanaro]

William Barr Can’t Exonerate Donald Trump

Despite what the attorney general’s letter to Congress states, his argument clearing the president of obstruction goes against established law and is profoundly dangerous.

Barr’s reasoning should not be accepted, because it sits squarely at odds with settled law and amounts to an attempt to pre-empt Congress’ constitutionally assigned role to determine if the president has committed high crimes and misdemeanors.

Barr also indicated that Mueller found evidence that the president may have obstructed the investigation but did not reach a conclusion on that issue.

. Barr’s argument thus suggests that if a subject of a criminal investigation avoids indictment for the underlying offense—whether it be insider trading, burglary, or election interference—he should not be charged with criminal liability for efforts to obstruct the investigation of the potential offense, either.
That is simply not the law. Proof of an underlying crime is not an element of an obstruction charge, and individuals are regularly charged with obstruction without facing criminal liability for an underlying offense.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/william-barr-doesnt-get-to-exonerate-donald-trump.html (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/william-barr-doesnt-get-to-exonerate-donald-trump.html)

Pelosi's decision not to impeach Trash but only beat him in 2020 is equal to letting Trash escape without full transparency and punishment.

If the state and Federal investigators find that Trash is a criminal, will Pelosi still refuse to impeach?
Can you stop with that fake shit for a second?
Your 350k copy pasta articles had nothing to do with reality.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1110024275799375872

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1109994126991228928

:lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1110037868234358785

[Winehole23]

Clown car almost packedLook what came out of the 2016 GOP clown car.

Could be another doozy.

[koriwhat]

Look what came out of the 2016 GOP clown car.

Could be another doozy.

The left are nothing but clowns!

[Will Hunting]

The investigation wasn't about "derogatory info".
Right, Hillary's email investigation wasn't either, but it didn't exactly help her image when the findings were that she wouldn't face any indictments but still acted recklessly in using a private email server.

[boutons_deux]

Right, Hillary's email investigation wasn't either, but it didn't exactly help her image when the findings were that she wouldn't face any indictments but still acted recklessly in using a private email server.

dubya's WH used private email server, deleted several M emails violating Federal Records Act and nobody cared.

Hillary's "recklessness" was

1) Comey violating FBI protocol (no indictment, so no comment, but self-promoting Comey trashed Hillary on live national TV)

and

2) Repugs fabricating outrage to go with 25 years of witch hunting the Clintons

[boutons_deux]

Charles P. Pierce: 'William Barr Did What He Was Hired To Do' and 'Thereby Hangs Upcoming Brawl' (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/24/1844808/-Charles-P-Pierce-William-Barr-Did-What-He-Was-Hired-To-Do)

Pierce states that Barr “summarizes the Mueller report in the light most favorable to the administration,” which is not surprising,

in light of the (https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2018/12/20/read-bill-barrs-19-page-memo-ripping-mueller-probe/?slreturn=20190224170041)19 page memo Barr wrote earlier in the year. (https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2018/12/20/read-bill-barrs-19-page-memo-ripping-mueller-probe/?slreturn=20190224170041)

Here’s a snip (https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2018/12/20/read-bill-barrs-19-page-memo-ripping-mueller-probe/?slreturn=20190224170041), which gives you the flavor of the entire thing.

Mueller should not be permitted to demand that the President submit to interrogation about alleged obstruction….

under this theory, simply by exercising his Constitutional discretion in a facially-lawful way

— for example, by removing or appointing an official;

using his prosecutorial discretion to give direction on a case;

or using his pardoning power ~

a President can be accused of committing a crime based solely on his subjective state of mind.

this memorandum is a perfect set up for the conclusion Barr reached Sunday in his letter to the Judiciary Committees. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/read-attorney-general-barr-s-principal-conclusions-of-the-mueller-report/?noteId=9048a12b-2332-4645-a1be-d645db216eb5&questionId=218b8095-c5e3-4eab-9135-4170f5b3e87f&utm_term=.220971193b13&wpisrc=nl_evening&wpmm=1)

...Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense….

In making this determination, we noted that the Special Counsel recognized that "the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference," and that,

while not determinative, the absence of such evidence bears upon the President's intent with respect to obstruction.


That’s the set up, and the commentary is vintage Charlie Pierce. (https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a26921794/mueller-report-summary-willam-barr-donald-trump/)

And thereby hangs the upcoming brawl.

Mueller says essentially that he is drawing no conclusions on obstruction of justice.

Meanwhile, Barr—and Rod Rosenstein—are saying that, because

Mueller drew no conclusions, he did in fact draw a conclusion. :lol

The law, as it has been said, is an ass.

There will be insufferable cock-a-doodle-doo'ing from the usual suspects for the next two years, and we all better get used to it.

I suspect that both Barr and Mueller will get hauled before various congressional committees.

In fact, the basic overriding result of Barr's summary is that the whole matter now has been dumped into the laps of a divided and hyper-partisan Congress

in such a way as to guarantee that the Congress will be more divided and more hyper-partisan than ever before.

The Democratic House will hold hearings and the Republican Senate will yell about Hillary Clinton.

The Internet will be indiscriminately insane for the foreseeable future.


For those of us who are Iran-Contra obsessives—and you know who you are out there—this summary carries a similar aroma.

A lot of important people are going to pass the buck around to each other, over and over again, until the country forgets what all the fuss was in the first place.

This should be no surprise, again, because, back in 1992,

when he was George H.W. Bush's AG,

Barr advised that president (https://www.npr.org/2019/01/14/684553791/william-barr-supported-pardons-in-an-earlier-d-c-witch-hunt-iran-contra) to pardon

all of the people convicted in Iran-Contra—people

who, unsurprisingly, all could have testified that

Bush's non-involvement was a self-serving lie.

Maybe he'll give this president* the same advice.

Who knows?



https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/24/1844808/-Charles-P-Pierce-William-Barr-Did-What-He-Was-Hired-To-Do? (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/24/1844808/-Charles-P-Pierce-William-Barr-Did-What-He-Was-Hired-To-Do?)



Like Kavanaugh, Roberto Gonzalez, Barr is political hack hired, under the guise of legality, to cover up Iran-Contra and Trash.

America is fucked and unfuckable,

where any man (corporate-"person")with enough money and power, is above the law,

thanks mostly to the degenerate Repugs and their right wing hate/propaganda industrial complex.

[boutons_deux]

Kock Bros fellator/Freedom Kockus McCarthy is demanding Schiff resign

[TSA]

Kock Bros fellator/Freedom Kockus McCarthy is demanding Schiff resign

He should resign. He spread more bullshit conspiracy theories on TV than any other congressman, and he knew what he was spreading was false. Fuck him.

[boutons_deux]

He should resign. He spread more bullshit conspiracy theories on TV than any other congressman, and he knew what he was spreading was false. Fuck him.

so now Pizza / Q / Seth Rich TSA is against conspiracy bullshit? :lol

If Schiff can get past Trump-enabler / feckless Pelosi, we will have some really fun Congressional hearings.

Trash must go before Grand Jury, just like Clinton did.

[TSA]

so now Pizza / Q / Seth Rich TSA is against conspiracy bullshit? :lol

If Schiff can get past Trump-enabler / feckless Pelosi, we will have some really fun Congressional hearings.

Trash must go before Grand Jury, just like Clinton did.

I'm not a member of congress with access to news interviews shown to 10's of millions of people every day.

[Pavlov]

He should resign. He spread more bullshit conspiracy theories on TV than any other congressman, and he knew what he was spreading was false. Fuck him.Are you familiar with Louie "ISIS camps in Mexico" Gohmert?

Do you think he should resign?

[TSA]

Are you familiar with Louie "ISIS camps in Mexico" Gohmert?

Do you think he should resign?

Do you ever stop deflecting? You’re inching closer and closer to just being a shill like boutons that everyone just skips over.

And why are you still posting from this alt?

[Pavlov]

Do you ever stop deflecting? You’re inching closer and closer to just being a shill like boutons that everyone just skips over.I'm telling you he's not the worst when it comes to conspiracies.

You can just say you're ignorant about Gohmert. I wouldn't be surprised.


And why are you still posting from this alt?Have you read the report?

Let me see it.

[TSA]

I'm telling you he's not the worst when it comes to conspiracies.

You can just say you're ignorant about Gohmert. I wouldn't be surprised.

Have you read the report?

Let me see it.

The Russian collusion investigation is over. No one was charged for colluding with Russia. Why are you still posting from this alt?

[Pavlov]

The Russian collusion investigation is over. No one was charged for colluding with Russia. Why are you still posting from this alt?Have you read the report?

Yes or no.

[TSA]

Have you read the report?

Yes or no.

No.

You said you would stop posting from this alt when the Russian investigation ended. It’s over, yet here you are.

Why are you still posting from this alt?

[Pavlov]

No.There's your answer.

I'll accept a redacted report, thanks.

Let me know when you read it.

[TSA]

There's your answer.

I'll accept a redacted report, thanks.

Let me know when you read it.

The Russian collusion investigation is over. You said you’d kill this alt when that happened. You lied, again.

You’re pathetic.

[spurraider21]

why is it important what account he posts from if you know who he is?

[Pavlov]

The Russian collusion investigation is over. You said you’d kill this alt when that happened. You lied, again.

You’re pathetic.I never said I'd kill this alt. I said I'd go back to my main.

:lol why do you need to lie about every single thing you bring up, TSA?

Explain.

[TSA]

I never said I'd kill this alt. I said I'd go back to my main.

:lol why do you need to lie about every single thing you bring up, TSA?

Explain.

kill, stop using, its all the same to me.

The Russian collusion investigation is over. You said you’d go back to your main when that happened. You haven’t. You lied.

[Pavlov]

kill, stop using, its all the same to me.It's not the same.

You lied.

Why do you have to lie about every single thing you post, TSA?

Where's that report?

[Spurs Homer]

The Russian collusion investigation is over. You said you’d kill this alt when that happened. You lied, again.

You’re pathetic.

trump installed a henchman to do what sessions could not/would not do

barr neutered mueller

mueller stopped investigating

mueller did not - or was not allowed to make a conclusion of trumps obstruction that the world saw with their own eyes

since mueller was not allowed to make a determination

barr made the decision

just like trump wanted

now the report will be buried - barr will cite bs reasons why

trump had no issues de-classifying classified info to pursue bogus- strock/page/hrc documents but now they will cite
”rule of law”

cover up

but russia wins for now

congrats

[TSA]

why is it important what account he posts from if you know who he is?

It’s not important, other than being another Pavlov lie.

[spurraider21]

It’s not important, other than being another Pavlov lie.
of no consequence, assuming the premise is true. and iirc he said once the report is released to the public. not that it matters. because this is a really dumb thing to get hung up on

[TSA]

It's not the same.

You lied.

Why do you have to lie about every single thing you post, TSA?

Where's that report?


It’s the same to me and that’s all that matters.

The Russian collusion investigation is over. You said you’d go back to your main when that happened. You haven’t. You lied.

[Pavlov]

It’s not important, other than being another Pavlov lie.If it triggers you this badly I'll keep using it.:lol

[Pavlov]

It’s the same to me and that’s all that matters.:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

that’s all that matters.:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

:lol there were like 30 mentions from derp waiting for me.

[Spurs Homer]

:lol there were like 30 mentions from derp waiting for me.

lol

[RandomGuy]

Seems to be a lot of spiking the ball from Barr's four page memo.

Barr, picked for his very specific opinion on such things.

Meh. Ima wait for the actual report to come out.

[TSA]

If it triggers you this badly I'll keep using it.:lol

:lol that didn't last long

[Pavlov]

:lol that didn't last longDid it?

[TSA]

Seems to be a lot of spiking the ball from Barr's four page memo.

Barr, picked for his very specific opinion on such things.

Meh. Ima wait for the actual report to come out.

While you're waiting on the report to come out do you want to go through your history in this thread and see which of your wacko conspiracy theories panned out?

[ChumpDumper]

While you're waiting on the report to come out do you want to go through your history in this thread and see which of your wacko conspiracy theories panned out?It's still hilarious that you are trying to call out people for having wacko conspiracy theories.

[RandomGuy]

While you're waiting on the report to come out do you want to go through your history in this thread and see which of your wacko conspiracy theories panned out?

Well, most of the stuff like poll data sharing with the Russians, so they knew where to target their disinformation campaigns panned out pretty well if memory serves. That though, is not quite criminal, unless one counts treason, but that is a lot tougher row to hoe.

Why don't you get off your lazy ass and do it for me? I"m kind of busy.

[TSA]

It's still hilarious that you are trying to call out people for having wacko conspiracy theories.

The Russian collusion conspiracy theory was the largest ever pushed in the history of our country. It's still hilarious you are trying to compare it to other conspiracy theories.

[Winehole23]

Look what came out of the 2016 GOP clown car.

Could be another doozy.Clowns v. Orcs, bring it on!

[Pavlov]

The Russian collusion conspiracy theory was the largest ever pushed in the history of our country. It's still hilarious you are trying to compare it to other conspiracy theories.
It's hilarious that you're pretending you didn't push more wacko conspiracy theories harder than anyone here.

[Winehole23]

Hardly "once". Tiabbi has a history of going after either team....'s one of the many reasons I continue follow him.I recently reposted his articles on Pentagon accounting shenanigans, waste, fraud and abuse.

Also his recap of the 2008-9 (and let’s face it, ongoing for ten years and counting) financial bailout.

No takers on either side, not counting boutons.

[Winehole23]

Still radioactive, apparently.

Waste and fraud don’t count when it’s a defense bureaucracy.

Socialism doesn’t count when it’s gold-plated and targets banks non-bank market makers and billionaires.

[boutons_deux]

So, Why Did Mueller Tell Everyone About Paul Manafort’s Buddy Who Had Active Ties to Russian Intelligence?

Why in the dang heck did the special counsel’s office just go out of its way

to accuse former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort of

discussing Russia policy in 2016 with someone who had ongoing ties to Russian intelligence …

if it was also about to conclude that no one in the campaign “conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities”?

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/mueller-manafort-kilimnik-no-collusion-how.html (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/mueller-manafort-kilimnik-no-collusion-how.html)

[hater]

1110337889936789505

[Spurs Homer]

So, Why Did Mueller Tell Everyone About Paul Manafort’s Buddy Who Had Active Ties to Russian Intelligence?

Why in the dang heck did the special counsel’s office just go out of its way

to accuse former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort of

discussing Russia policy in 2016 with someone who had ongoing ties to Russian intelligence …

if it was also about to conclude that no one in the campaign “conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities”?

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/mueller-manafort-kilimnik-no-collusion-how.html (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/mueller-manafort-kilimnik-no-collusion-how.html)




Because Barr is a piece of shit - who I would never trust.

I don't believe a word of this cover up -

I will wait until Muellers full report is released or leaked -

why?

because we all saw the collusion/conspiracy with our own eyes - in full public view -

so -

this is nothing but Barr assuring Trump he would cover up this report and give trump a full two year head start into the next stolen election -

by the time the world sees the full mueller report -

trump will have already stolen the presidency - again.

[pgardn]

1110337889936789505










Hater using the Chris route.

"Better not type, I will implicate myself as an idiot."

[Winehole23]

Still radioactive, apparently.

Waste and fraud don’t count when it’s a defense bureaucracy.

Socialism doesn’t count even when it’s gold-plated and targets banks non-bank market makers and billionaires.No takers?

C'mon, you can even blame it on Obama. The financial bailout part, even though GWB and Paulson got the ball rolling.

[CosmicCowboy]

Because Barr is a piece of shit - who I would never trust.

I don't believe a word of this cover up -

I will wait until Muellers full report is released or leaked -

why?

because we all saw the collusion/conspiracy with our own eyes - in full public view -

so -

this is nothing but Barr assuring Trump he would cover up this report and give trump a full two year head start into the next stolen election -

by the time the world sees the full mueller report -

trump will have already stolen the presidency - again.

:lol. Even more delusional than boutons.

[CitizenDwayne]

Since trump didn’t openly conspire with Russia, that definitely means he’s a good president who deserves reelection.

[midnightpulp]

Democrats need to stop being preoccupied with Trump and start focusing on a coherent platform to run on in 2020. We in live in a catchphrase, 140 characters, gif driven society now, which is why conservative appeal-to-emotion populist tactics seem to be more effective in driving their base to the polls. Tell Billy Bob in Kansas that the Luh-tinos are coming for his jerb and women, that the Demonrats wanna kill babies and take away his guns, and you'll get him to the polls faster than you can blink. The Democrat strategy works for coastal voters, but they need a Midwest strategy if they don't want to get sucker punched by a silent majority again. Cold fact is that the majority of people in the Midwest don't care about global warming, transgender bathroom laws, and the illegal immigration situation beyond the visceral concern of keeping Paco out of his neighborhood. Beto celebrating the fact he would tear down every border wall isn't going to win him support in Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc. Most Democrats share his sentiment.

The Democrats have the coasts locked up no matter. The anti-Trump sentiment is so strong with the core DNC base, that Democrats moving a bit toward the center on some issues won't effect their chances. They don't need to convince CA, NY, MA. They need to retake the Rust Belt. Their platform should center on: Jobs, healthcare, and assuaging fears that their guns won't be taken away and Paco will not be invading their communities. Once you start taking about global warming or "privilege," they'll tune out.

[Spurs Homer]

:lol. Even more delusional than boutons.

Yes, because I don't believe this latest cover up from the con man and fox news to try and evade legal prosecution -

because I would rather see the Mueller report - NOT - the Barr report.

The guy that lied over 9000 times - hires a henchman - and you believe THIS con too -

yet - I'm

the delusional one lol.

Why is Barr hiding the report now?

Why did Mitch McConnell block a vote to release the full Mueller report - if trump is "exonerated?"

Why are you taking Barr's word that Trump did not collude or obstruct?

[CosmicCowboy]

Yes, because I don't believe this latest cover up from the con man and fox news to try and evade legal prosecution -

because I would rather see the Mueller report - NOT - the Barr report.

The guy that lied over 9000 times - hires a henchman - and you believe THIS con too -

yet - I'm

the delusional one lol.

Why is Barr hiding the report now?

Why did Mitch McConnell block a vote to release the full Mueller report - if trump is "exonerated?"

Why are you taking Barr's word that Trump did not collude or obstruct?

:lol

Now Mueller, Mueller's 24 lawyers, 40 FBI agents and Barr are all liars covering up for Trump...:lmao

fucking delusional...:lmao

[Monostradamus]

:lol there were like 30 mentions from derp waiting for me.
:lmao

[CosmicCowboy]

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s report on his investigation’s findings has not been made public — all we have so far is a four-page letter by Attorney General Bill Barr summarizing those findings.

Most of that letter is in Barr’s own words. And some Democrats are skeptical about whether Barr is characterizing the special counsel’s conclusions accurately, or leaving out important information.

But there are a few places where the attorney general quotes from the Mueller report itself — that is, where he quotes Mueller’s own words. For one, Barr reveals its title: “Report on the Investigation into Russian Interference in the 2016 Presidential Election.” He also has the following quotes from the body of the report.

1) “[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

Barr presents this as the big “no collusion” quote. And indeed, Mueller is saying in his own words that his probe “did not establish” any conspiracy or coordination between Donald Trump’s campaign members and the Russian government to interfere with the election.

What surrounds that quote — and even how the quoted sentence begins — isn’t clear. Is Mueller saying that there was absolutely nothing to any Trump-Russia collusion allegations? Or is it more along the lines of, there was some concerning evidence but not enough to “establish” a conspiracy?

2) “Coordination” [is defined as an] “agreement — tacit or express — between the Trump Campaign and the Russian government on election interference.”

This is just Barr quoting, in a footnote, Mueller’s definition of “coordination”. It clarifies that Mueller wasn’t just looking for an “express” agreement between Trump’s team and the Russians, but also a potential “tacit” one.

[DarrinS]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/taibbi-russia-investigation-conclusions-813171/

[hater]

Delusional media won't give it up. It's up to politicians in Washington to start opening their eyes and see that there's an election coming next year

[Spurs Homer]

:lol

Now Mueller, Mueller's 24 lawyers, 40 FBI agents and Barr are all liars covering up for Trump...:lmao

fucking delusional...:lmao

Nope - not what I said or what I have been saying;

I would trust Muellers report - when I see Muellers report.

Mueller could have said something way different than what Barr spun.

I said Barr - and Trump - are in a cover up.

Barr could have choked the life out of Muellers investigation and pressured Mueller to wrap up early.

Many things are fishy.

Release the full Mueller report.
Have Mueller testify under oath. (also Rosenstein) -

I don't give a shit about Barr testifying because he will just lie or evade answering. He already said that even if he was advised to recuse - he would not.

You sound like FOX news - distorting the words I wrote.

Mueller supposedly decided not to make a conclusion. (on Obstruction)
(WHY? - Did Barr tell him to leave it open? Did Mueller leave it open - so that Congress could make the call?
Did Barr give Mueller a strict set of rules to keep Mueller from making a conclusion? Did Barr misrepresent Muellers report?)

[boutons_deux]

RUSSIA: HOW DARE YOU DRAG TRUMP INTO OUR CRIMES

Sure, the Kremlin attempted to throw the U.S. election. But it never got Trump involved!

Mueller found

Russia aggressively attempted to meddle in the election,

both through a disinformation campaign “to sow social discord” and

“computer hacking operations designed to gather and disseminate information to influence the election.”

In the end, the Kremlin apparently failed to get anyone from the campaign to go along with its efforts,

“despite multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.”

For the outraged Russian politicians claiming the Kremlin has been vindicated by the investigation, though, that’s a distinction not worth mentioning (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/25/mueller-report-russia-responds-to-the-mueller-investigation-summary.html)!

all three of these men seem to be focusing on the fact that Mueller found no evidence of collusion between the campaign and Russia,

rather than his findings that

Russia attempted—many times!—to get the campaign to collude.

Anyway, the Kremlin wants an apology, and it wants one now.

And what better way for Uncle Sam to show he cares than by turning the other cheek when it comes to 2020 election meddling that may or may n

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/russia-how-dare-you-drag-trump-into-our-election-meddling-crimes-mueller-report?mbid=nl_th_5c9974561c3519239055da5d&utm_source=nl&utm_medium=email&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=vyf_hive_news_20190326%20(1)&bxid=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&spMailingID=15352451&spUserID=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&spJobID=1601947168&spReportId=MTYwMTk0NzE2OAS2 (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/russia-how-dare-you-drag-trump-into-our-election-meddling-crimes-mueller-report?mbid=nl_th_5c9974561c3519239055da5d&utm_source=nl&utm_medium=email&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=vyf_hive_news_20190326%20(1)&bxid=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&spMailingID=15352451&spUserID=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&spJobID=1601947168&spReportId=MTYwMTk0NzE2OAS2)

[boutons_deux]

“A CRIME IN PUBLIC VIEW”: HOW WILLIAM BARR PARDONED DONALD TRUMP

Trump had plenty of reasons to obstruct Mueller’s investigation, whether or not there was an underlying crime. The most obvious one has been staring us in the face all along.

Attorney General William Barr’s summary of special counsel Robert Mueller’s conclusions, in the fancy language of lawyers,

impeaches itself.

That means that

its own words and reasoning call some of Barr’s conclusions into doubt,

particularly Barr’s eagerness to say that Donald Trump can’t be proven to have obstructed justice.

the attorney general’s eagerness to clear Trump of possible obstruction of justice,

after having the report in hand for less than 48 hours,

is unbecoming of his office and Mueller’s two-year investigation.

Furthermore, some of the reasoning in his letter is clearly deeply flawed.

To argue that no underlying crime means no obstruction is therefore nonsense.

That is fallacious reasoning and it

impugns Barr’s integrity and his reputation as a lawyer.

Worse, it represents

a troubling effort to paper over the acknowledged evidence that Mr. Trump committed a crime in public view.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/how-william-barr-pardoned-donald-trump?mbid=nl_th_5c9974561c3519239055da5d&CNDID=43758549&utm_source=nl&utm_medium=email&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=vyf_hive_news_20190326%20(1)&bxid=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&spMailingID=15352451&spUserID=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&spJobID=1601947168&spReportId=MTYwMTk0NzE2OAS2

Barr's "reputation" among Repugs was that he covered up Reagan's Iran-Contra crimes, so he was top of the list to cover up Trash's crimes

For 2 years, why did Trash and his mafiya "forget", lie, obstruct their Russian connections?

[Spurs Homer]

^ https://www.salon.com/2019/03/26/cover-up-attorney-general-bill-barr-strikes-again_partner/

[CosmicCowboy]

Nope - not what I said or what I have been saying;

I would trust Muellers report - when I see Muellers report.

Mueller could have said something way different than what Barr spun.

I said Barr - and Trump - are in a cover up.

Barr could have choked the life out of Muellers investigation and pressured Mueller to wrap up early.

Many things are fishy.

Release the full Mueller report.
Have Mueller testify under oath. (also Rosenstein) -

I don't give a shit about Barr testifying because he will just lie or evade answering. He already said that even if he was advised to recuse - he would not.

You sound like FOX news - distorting the words I wrote.

Mueller supposedly decided not to make a conclusion. (on Obstruction)
(WHY? - Did Barr tell him to leave it open? Did Mueller leave it open - so that Congress could make the call?
Did Barr give Mueller a strict set of rules to keep Mueller from making a conclusion? Did Barr misrepresent Muellers report?)

:lmao

Hilarious TDS.

[boutons_deux]

William Barr Reads “Moby-Dick,” Finds No Evidence of Whales

WASHINGTON —Attorney General William Barr has just read the classic American novel “Moby-Dick (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0142437247/?tag=thneyo0f-20),” by Herman Melville, and found that the book contains “no evidence whatsoever of whales,” Barr stated on Tuesday.

The Attorney General issued his statement on the absence of whales in the Melville classic in a two-paragraph book report released to the news media.

“Those who read ‘Moby-Dick’ looking for whales will be sorely disappointed,” Barr wrote.

“There are no whales here.”

To illustrate his point, Barr quoted the book’s first sentence: “Call me Ishmael.”

“As you can clearly see, that sentence does not have a whale in it,” Barr wrote.

The Attorney General indicated that

he hoped his report would put an end to “reckless speculation” about the existence of whales in “Moby-Dick.”

“It’s time to move on,” he wrote.

Barr disclosed that, after waiting years to read “Moby-Dick,”

he was able to finish reading it in approximately fifteen minutes.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/william-barr-reads-moby-dick-finds-no-evidence-of-whales (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/william-barr-reads-moby-dick-finds-no-evidence-of-whales)

[TSA]

Bannon: With Mueller probe over, Trump ‘is going to go full animal’

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bannon-with-mueller-probe-over-trump-is-going-to-go-full-animal-194747346.html

[ChumpDumper]

Bannon: With Mueller probe over, Trump ‘is going to go full animal’

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bannon-with-mueller-probe-over-trump-is-going-to-go-full-animal-194747346.html:lol He also say Hillary will be the 2020 Democratic nominee.

[boutons_deux]

Bannon's right, Trash and the Repugs will now relentlessly destroy even more of America and govt than they have these past two years.

And the destruction will not be reversible.

The End Is Nigh

[CitizenDwayne]

Bannon's right, Trash and the Repugs will now relentlessly destroy even more of America and govt than they have these past two years.

And the destruction will not be reversible.

The End Is Nigh
Could you please just fuck off already? People like you are a major reason this gasbag got elected in the first place. You just blowing everything out of proportion and making apocalyptic predictions helps no one.

[boutons_deux]

Could you please just fuck off already? People like you are a major reason this gasbag got elected in the first place. You just blowing everything out of proportion and making apocalyptic predictions helps no one.

OK, pollyanna CD, let's see how more fucked up America is, by Trash and the Repugs, 18 months from now.

and it sure looks like the oligarchy's SCOTUS5 whores are going to allow partisan gerrymandering

[CitizenDwayne]

OK, pollyanna CD, let's see how more fucked up America is, by Trash and the Repugs, 18 months from now.
Yes I agree, he’ll continue being atrocious, probably with more confidence than ever before. That’s why you get out and vote. You don’t need to spend your damn day copy/pasting links no one ever clicks

[Spurs Homer]

Could you please just fuck off already? People like you are a major reason this gasbag got elected in the first place. You just blowing everything out of proportion and making apocalyptic predictions helps no one.

As opposed to what?

The idiots that see crimes and lies and fuckery with their own eyes and then DEFEND it?

Is that the answer?

Stop calling out the criminals fuckery?

[CitizenDwayne]

As opposed to what?

The idiots that see crimes and lies and fuckery with their own eyes and then DEFEND it?

Is that the answer?

Stop calling out the criminals fuckery?
I didn’t say that. Of course he should be called out, he’s an embarrassment. Boutons shares 15 links a day that no one asked for and spouts dramatic hyperbole like “the end is nigh”. This is not a fucking Shakespearean tragedy; go vote in ‘20.

Boutons contributes no meaningful analysis, no original ideas. Throughout his 70,000 posts, there has been nothing of merit. He is no better than ducks.

[Spurs Homer]

I didn’t say that. Of course he should be called out, he’s an embarrassment. Boutons shares 15 links a day that no one asked for and spouts dramatic hyperbole like “the end is nigh”. This is not a fucking Shakespearean tragedy; go vote in ‘20.

Boutons contributes no meaningful analysis, no original ideas. Throughout his 70,000 posts, there has been nothing of merit. He is no better than ducks.


You can ignore his posts. I have read them - and sorry to burst your narrative - but his posts have pretty accurate info -

or you can point out the inaccuracies - I bet you will not find many.

As far as his hyperbole - well - I get your point - but it doesn't bother me - as most posters here use hyperbole on a worse level 24/7.

[spurraider21]

I didn’t say that. Of course he should be called out, he’s an embarrassment. Boutons shares 15 links a day that no one asked for and spouts dramatic hyperbole like “the end is nigh”. This is not a fucking Shakespearean tragedy; go vote in ‘20.

Boutons contributes no meaningful analysis, no original ideas. Throughout his 70,000 posts, there has been nothing of merit. He is no better than ducks.
ducks sometimes tries to speak his opinion. its usually logically unsound and grammatically incomprehensible, but he'll try.

booboo is just a one man echo chamber. i've had him on ignore for the longest time, and it makes the political forum so much easier to navigate, rather than having to constantly scroll through articles that nobody wants to read. i mean he's basically chris but with walls of texts instead of tweets. chris will sometimes give his own takes too, but its usually with respect to conspiracy theories about secret societies and satan, etc

[boutons_deux]

That’s why you get out and vote.

:lol voting is charade, pure bullshit. Elected politicians will always do what BigDonor paid for.

Establishment Dems are already shutting down, prohibiting, black listing progressive candidates, to prevent any more AOCs

[CosmicCowboy]

OK, pollyanna CD, let's see how more fucked up America is, by Trash and the Repugs, 18 months from now.

and it sure looks like the oligarchy's SCOTUS5 whores are going to allow partisan gerrymandering

Uhhh dumbass....by definition gerrymandering is always partisan. You love the shit out of it when blue team does it.

[boutons_deux]

Uhhh dumbass....by definition gerrymandering is always partisan. You love the shit out of it when blue team does it.

hey dumbass

RACIAL gerrymandering was illegal until the SCOTUS5 gutted VRA, Kennedy, from his ivory tower of ignorance, saying effectively, there was no more racism in USA, so racial gerrymandering could proceed. the VRA racist states RACED :lol within hours to screw black people out of voting.

Partisan gerrymandering is degrading ALL (not just black) peoples' votes because they support the other party.