Seed changer: Nurkic with broken leg by the looks of it. [Archive]

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03-26-2019, 12:45 AM

Not to add insult to injury but not only did the injury look really bad but it’s right before the playoffs too, id be surprised if he even plays at all next year

Yep. And then the next year seems to be a slow ramp up physically and mentally if Hayward is any indication. OTOH, PG seems to have made a quicker and more complete mental recovery than has Hayward.

Sucks for Nurkic though.. He's definitely having his breakout year. He's the only one I've seen manhandle LA at any point this year. And he did it on several straight possessions. I feel bad for him and the Blazers because it more than likely just put the next two years in doubt as to how to move forward on roster construction.

Though his injury recovery could be less of a problem because he isn't a big jumper. Or conversely, it could be even worse because he's probably every bit of 280 which might make a recovery all that much harder.

Sucks.

And is it just me or are these "land wrong" things happening more frequently or are they just more publicized than 30years ago?? Strange phenomena.

slick'81

03-26-2019, 12:51 AM

Dude was beasting this season .Portland really is cursed

Arcadian

03-26-2019, 12:54 AM

What the fuck? The entire history of the Blazers franchise is a tragic tale of misfortune and woe.

SpurPadre

03-26-2019, 01:21 AM

Sucks that it happened to a decent human being while a piece of shit in Toronto is living it up with bullshit "Load Management" and only out for himself trying to kill franchises.

phxspurfan

03-26-2019, 01:28 AM

He's one of the best centers in the league,

Calmate, pancho

phxspurfan

03-26-2019, 01:29 AM

Portland really is cursed

LMA did just fine with that curse. So did Rasheed Wallace, Damon Stoudamire, Big Daddy Sabonis, ZBo, Drexler, Terry Porter, fuckin' Cliff Robinson...

GusT15

03-26-2019, 01:43 AM

Damn Lamarcus is the only talented big in their franchise history to make it out of Portland alive :lol

Give it time.LMA wants to go back there,doesn't he? :lol

Spurtacular

03-26-2019, 01:51 AM

Yea, smart teams gonna be gunning for the sweep the Blazers sweepstakes, tbh.

tbdog

03-26-2019, 02:08 AM

Did you see the ref walking pass Nurkic and accidentally kicked his broken leg. These refs are blind as fuck this season.

Rusty

03-26-2019, 02:31 AM

thats a career ending injury :depressed

GusT15

03-26-2019, 02:32 AM

Yep. And then the next year seems to be a slow ramp up physically and mentally if Hayward is any indication. OTOH, PG seems to have made a quicker and more complete mental recovery than has Hayward.

And is it just me or are these "land wrong" things happening more frequently or are they just more publicized than 30years ago?? Strange phenomena.

It's a broken bone and not a tendon,meaning bones heal just fine and stronger and when you get your conditioning back you're good to go.
The mental recovery is the hurdle you must overcome,PG did a better job at it than what Hayward has done so far.

It's not just "landing wrong",compared to 30 years ago,i mean.Athletes are way heavier muscle wise than what they were 30 years ago cause they have technology at their side to maximize their muscle growth.
Nurk is a 290 pounds athlete.He might seem lean compared to some players in the 90's but he's one heavy dude.Landing off balance on one leg is a disaster waiting to happen,with all that weight coming down to a bone from an awkward angle.

GusT15

03-26-2019, 02:36 AM

thats a career ending injury :depressed

No it's not.Patella snaps,double acl's and achilles tears are career enders in some occasions (most occasions).Multiple stress microfractures as well.

A bone heals.A clean bone break is gruesome and hard to look at,but it heals.

kw780101

03-26-2019, 02:56 AM

I hope an injury like this would happen to Kawhi.
Even better if it happens during the playoffs.

kw780101

03-26-2019, 03:00 AM

That fucking sucks. You never wish that on anyone. He's one of the best centers in the league, so I hope he comes back strong.

Not true, I wish that on Kawhi and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

monty4329

03-26-2019, 03:05 AM

GusT15

03-26-2019, 03:29 AM

Poor guy, and on a game they should have lost already if not for DDR-esque closings by D'angelo.
A big body like that, it will be very hard to come back, let alone as good as he was this year. Plus he is a good guy by all accounts. Should have happened to some of the a-holes around the league.

I feel sorry for Nurk as well by let's not pretend he's not an asshole most of the time.He's only likable for his own team and fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW12QrPt3gQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y1x6sgVqA0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvMy7aTye00

monty4329

03-26-2019, 03:39 AM

I feel sorry for Nurk as well by let's not pretend he's not an asshole most of the time.He's only likable for his own team and fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW12QrPt3gQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y1x6sgVqA0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvMy7aTye00

In Denver they all speak fondly of him. Anyway if he is not liked by Westbrook or Simmons, all the better, I like him even more :clap

GusT15

03-26-2019, 03:46 AM

In Denver they all speak fondly of him. Anyway if he is not liked by Westbrook or Simmons, all the better, I like him even more :clap

Of course they speak fondly of him in Denver,he's a likable dude as a teammate and a player to root for.And they only traded him cause there weren't enough minutes for both him and Jokic there.

Just saying,when you get in scuffles,grin sarcastically,trash talk,shove and trip people,you are an asshole-even if the dudes you get tangled up with are assholes as well.

r0drig0lac

03-26-2019, 05:16 AM

Just a play before Lillard was also banged up. That injury was brutal. Bad luck for Portland ever.

fixed

ZeusWillJudge

03-26-2019, 05:52 AM

I feel sorry for Nurk as well by let's not pretend he's not an asshole most of the time.He's only likable for his own team and fans.

Just saying,when you get in scuffles,grin sarcastically,trash talk,shove and trip people,you are an asshole-even if the dudes you get tangled up with are assholes as well.

Go find a video clip where Nurkic does anything besides get mad about someone cheap-shotting him. And what is it about gay men that makes them get so upset about sarcastic grins?

GusT15

03-26-2019, 06:00 AM

Go find a video clip where Nurkic does anything besides get mad about someone cheap-shotting him. And what is it about gay men that makes them get so upset about sarcastic grins?

No idea CumJuiceWillSwallow.

Why don't you,as a well known homosexual advocate enlighten us on the subject?

cjw

03-26-2019, 06:05 AM

Hard to see Portland falling out of the 4 seed. So the other four teams will all be gunning for that 5 seed.

Imagine if you got that PLUS Denver somehow held off GS for the 1 seed. Juiciest 5 seed ever.

ZeusWillJudge

03-26-2019, 06:08 AM

No idea CumJuiceWillSwallow.

Why don't you,as a well known homosexual advocate enlighten us on the subject?

Why are you so angry? Did you think I was grinning sarcastically when I typed that?

GusT15

03-26-2019, 06:10 AM

Why are you so angry? Did you think I was grinning sarcastically when I typed that?

Did you feel anger on my side?

I'm sorry princess,sometimes i am too violent with bitches like yourself.

Kobe'sAchilles

03-26-2019, 06:15 AM

They should get CJ back next game. But I wonder if Portland is going to close out strong or not. Nurkic was a huge part of that team and I don't know if they can close out the season without him. Home court is now a real possibility. Gotta beat TP first though...

Dverde

03-26-2019, 06:34 AM

Portland is now destined to play Golden State in the first round.

monty4329

03-26-2019, 07:13 AM

Portland is now destined to play Golden State in the first round.

Hard for GS to fall to 5th or 6th...

Rusty

03-26-2019, 07:51 AM

I think Trailblazers will blow it up this summer after the inevitable first round exit.

Fireball

03-26-2019, 08:08 AM

too bad ... he really gave LMA fits the last time we played Portland

Frank Dux

03-26-2019, 08:30 AM

thats a career ending injury :depressed

I can name three guys in the league who have snapped a leg in half and are still playing. Anderson Silva got his leg snapped in half and is still fighting in the UFC.

It's a season ender +1 but he'll be back.

Mugen

03-26-2019, 09:11 AM

Damn Lamarcus is the only talented big in their franchise history to make it out of Portland alive :lol

And the dummy wants to go back :lol

baseline bum

03-26-2019, 09:34 AM

And the dummy wants to go back :lol

Even better since the Spurs have him under contract for a couple more years for the tail of his prime but won't have to give him a Gasol loyalty contract when he's washed up.

Roscoe P. Coltrane

03-26-2019, 09:58 AM

Is it just me or does it seem players play less minutes and have more major injuries today than in the 80s - through the early 2000s?

Arcadian

03-26-2019, 09:58 AM

I feel sorry for Nurk as well by let's not pretend he's not an asshole most of the time.He's only likable for his own team and fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW12QrPt3gQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y1x6sgVqA0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvMy7aTye00

None of that was incriminating toward Nurkic. Westbrick is a piece of shit who is constantly searching for a fight to start. In the other two, Nurkic was just defending himself.

ZeusWillJudge

03-26-2019, 10:00 AM

None of that was incriminating toward Nurkic. Westbrick is a piece of shit who is constantly searching for a fight to start. In the other two, Nurkic was just defending himself.

GusT15

03-26-2019, 10:06 AM

None of that was incriminating toward Nurkic. Westbrick is a piece of shit who is constantly searching for a fight to start. In the other two, Nurkic was just defending himself.

He trips Westbrick before the moron's shove to Nurk,he trash talks Simmons when he's bricking a free throw and he pushes away Temple.

Here's what's out of context on my behalf,i have ZERO problem with Nurk doing all those things and then some either while defending himself or playing mind games.Zero problem.

My debate was with Monty cause he called Nurk a good guy all around.That's what i disputed.Not what he's doing and why he's doing it.Simply the fact that he's more of an asshole,an enforcer,a dude that gets underneath opponent's skin,than a good guy.That was my argument and i give zero fucks about Westbrook,Simmons or Temple or whoever Nurk has gotten in a scuffle with.

monty4329

03-26-2019, 10:06 AM

Is it just me or does it seem players play less minutes and have more major injuries today than in the 80s - through the early 2000s?

Besides the fact that players are bigger and faster and jump higher, have you tried the fancy shoes most of them wear nowadays? they are feathers with little or no support for foot and ankle. Cool for going to school, but not much more.
It is more dangerous than playing in Taylor's. I am sure many injuries are somehow shoe related.

Keepin' it real

03-26-2019, 10:21 AM

A tragic injury for sure, but at least it wasn't tendinopathy.

lmbebo

03-26-2019, 10:23 AM

Besides the fact that players are bigger and faster and jump higher, have you tried the fancy shoes most of them wear nowadays? they are feathers with little or no support for foot and ankle. Cool for going to school, but not much more.
It is more dangerous than playing in Taylor's. I am sure many injuries are somehow shoe related.

Article to a similar assertion with Lonzo and the BBB brand shoes....Lakers think his ankle issues are from him wearing BBB branded shoes

lmbebo

03-26-2019, 10:25 AM

A tragic injury for sure, but at least it wasn't tendinopathy.

You mean an injury so obscure that it took 10 doctors to evaluate him before one could find the problem and treat his problems...

GusT15

03-26-2019, 10:30 AM

You mean an injury so obscure that it took 10 doctors to evaluate him before one could find the problem and treat his problems...

At least that one doctor that got the diagnosis right also gave him the proper prescription/treatment

"Two of these after lunch,ice packs on quads after mild exercise,request trade from Spurs during summer,follow your Uncle's instructions all year long"

duncan2150

03-26-2019, 10:30 AM

I don’t think portland will Fall, they are playing solid basketball and with kanter they can stay good.

People who talk about nurkic behaviour are just Dumb.

GusT15

03-26-2019, 10:36 AM

What is this,a funeral and we can't express an opinion out of respect for the deseased?

A millionaire athlete broke his leg.It sucks.He was unlucky.He's 24 years old.Bones heal.He'll get over it.He'll be back.

And people dictating what other people can or cannot talk about in a basketball forum are dumb.

lmbebo

03-26-2019, 10:38 AM

At least that one doctor that got the diagnosis right also gave him the proper prescription/treatment

"Two of these after lunch,ice packs on quads after mild exercise,request trade from Spurs during summer,follow your Uncle's instructions all year long"

Guess the doctor without the MD gave the diagnosis to the MD under the table with stack of green paper

BG_Spurs_Fan

03-26-2019, 10:43 AM

Guess the doctor without the MD gave the diagnosis to the MD under the table with stack of green paper

Did the snake even get an actual diagnosis from his NY ‘doctors’?

spurraider21

03-26-2019, 10:48 AM

damn, RIP nurkic tbh. those injuries are soul crushing.. and the other players' reactions always tell the whole story. wish him a good recovery. sucks tbh

but :lol tlongII (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=158) on the other hand, tbh fwiw imo

GusT15

03-26-2019, 10:48 AM

Did the snake even get an actual diagnosis from his NY ‘doctors’?

Yessir but they didn't officially released it to the public,reporters said it was leaked unofficially.

Ossification of the quad muscle cause of mistreatment of quad contusion.

Basically Nephew's side leaked that he took a knee in the quad,he wasn't allowed to heal properly,he took another knee,double contusion,the muscle hardened and became inflamed.

spurraider21

03-26-2019, 10:50 AM

A tragic injury for sure, but at least it wasn't tendinopathy.
:lmao

lmbebo

03-26-2019, 10:55 AM

Yessir but they didn't officially released it to the public,reporters said it was leaked unofficially.

Ossification of the quad muscle cause of mistreatment of quad contusion.

Basically Nephew's side leaked that he took a knee in the quad,he wasn't allowed to heal properly,he took another knee,double contusion,the muscle hardened and became inflamed.

myositis ossificans. And its not an immediate diagnosis. Its a delayed reaction to blunt trauma (think car accident). No doctor would have made that diagnosis at time of injury and even then its a difficult one to make until its ossified, i.e. it takes time.

BS if they blamed spurs staff on that ...

GusT15

03-26-2019, 11:03 AM

myositis ossificans. And its not an immediate diagnosis. Its a delayed reaction to blunt trauma (think car accident). No doctor would have made that diagnosis at time of injury and even then its a difficult one to make until its ossified, i.e. it takes time.

BS if they blamed spurs staff on that ...

Yeah that's the one.They said he had/developed it since 2017 not last season.

And,yeah,they did blame it on Spurs staff,they pushed the narrative that chronic quad tendinopathy was the wrong diagnosis,they didn't discover the myositis ossificans and they were treating him for the wrong injury.And basically that was the reason Nephew became distant from the Spurs organization.

Also,we got sidetracked with #2 with no reason at all.

Hang in there Nurk,get well soon.

lmbebo

03-26-2019, 11:09 AM

Yeah that's the one.They said he had/developed it since 2017 not last season.

And,yeah,they did blame it on Spurs staff,they pushed the narrative that chronic quad tendinopathy was the wrong diagnosis,they didn't discover the myositis ossificans and they were treating him for the wrong injury.And basically that was the reason Nephew became distant from the Spurs organization.

Also,we got sidetracked with #2 with no reason at all.

Hang in there Nurk,get well soon.

I'm still rolling my eyes at them ....

Its a delayed complication. And he's also split off from Spurs medical staff for awhile before this all shook out. And if it was the spurs medical staff, thats not a reason to sit out, etc. The allowed him to get his own treatment.

Its all BS.

D-Robinson 50 fan

03-26-2019, 11:20 AM

Sad stuff . I wish him a speedy recovery

phxspurfan

03-26-2019, 11:44 AM

As bad as it looked, if it's clean he should hopefully make it back. Those crazy knee ones are much worse IMO since they affect the players ability to turn and jump, and they aren't like bone which heals up better (provided it's not totally shattered)...

Arcadian

03-26-2019, 11:47 AM

He trips Westbrick before the moron's shove to Nurk,he trash talks Simmons when he's bricking a free throw and he pushes away Temple.

Here's what's out of context on my behalf,i have ZERO problem with Nurk doing all those things and then some either while defending himself or playing mind games.Zero problem.

My debate was with Monty cause he called Nurk a good guy all around.That's what i disputed.Not what he's doing and why he's doing it.Simply the fact that he's more of an asshole,an enforcer,a dude that gets underneath opponent's skin,than a good guy.That was my argument and i give zero fucks about Westbrook,Simmons or Temple or whoever Nurk has gotten in a scuffle with.

You know what they say. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Sometimes punks like Westbrick deserve to be fucked with a little.

GusT15

03-26-2019, 11:54 AM

You know what they say. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Sometimes punks like Westbrick deserve to be fucked with a little.

Even more so,if you aggravate Westbrick there is a high % chance he is gonna go hero ball,stop passing the ball to George and shoot his team out of the game.

But,and there's always a but,you really should do that in a subtle way.Nurk unfortunately got ejected on that game with 2 T's (one on that play,one in a scuffle with PG) and Blazers lost the game cause of his ejection.

Arcadian

03-26-2019, 12:05 PM

Even more so,if you aggravate Westbrick there is a high % chance he is gonna go hero ball,stop passing the ball to George and shoot his team out of the game.

But,and there's always a but,you really should do that in a subtle way.Nurk unfortunately got ejected on that game with 2 T's (one on that play,one in a scuffle with PG) and Blazers lost the game cause of his ejection.

How could he possibly be any more subtle? It required slow-motion video review to even notice that Nurkic might have possibly moved his foot slightly to the side, and even then, I'm still not convinced it was intentional. Brilliant if so.

GusT15

03-26-2019, 12:14 PM

How could he possibly be any more subtle? It required slow-motion video review to even notice that Nurkic might have possibly moved his foot slightly to the side, and even then, I'm still not convinced it was intentional. Brilliant if so.

You're right,the trip was subtle and quite possibly if he doesn't get shoved down the court they don't review it and he doesn't get a T.He got ejected for the PG altercation,i had to go back and check the vid again.:toast

lmbebo

03-26-2019, 12:54 PM

At least he signed his new contract last summer and wasn't a Free Agent this summer.

NameLess Scrub

03-26-2019, 03:34 PM

Yep. And then the next year seems to be a slow ramp up physically and mentally if Hayward is any indication. OTOH, PG seems to have made a quicker and more complete mental recovery than has Hayward.

Sucks for Nurkic though.. He's definitely having his breakout year. He's the only one I've seen manhandle LA at any point this year. And he did it on several straight possessions. I feel bad for him and the Blazers because it more than likely just put the next two years in doubt as to how to move forward on roster construction.

Though his injury recovery could be less of a problem because he isn't a big jumper. Or conversely, it could be even worse because he's probably every bit of 280 which might make a recovery all that much harder.

Sucks.

And is it just me or are these "land wrong" things happening more frequently or are they just more publicized than 30years ago?? Strange phenomena.

Hayward's injury involved the ankle as well. For me it's not the same.

I expect and hope Nurkic recovers fast and well, since the injury is not a joint one.

And I do find these injuries weird. I wonder if his bones were already stressed. He wasn't hitting a wall awkwardly like PG was.

NameLess Scrub

03-26-2019, 03:39 PM

Besides the fact that players are bigger and faster and jump higher, have you tried the fancy shoes most of them wear nowadays? they are feathers with little or no support for foot and ankle. Cool for going to school, but not much more.
It is more dangerous than playing in Taylor's. I am sure many injuries are somehow shoe related.

I find this weird as well. I currently wear a pair of LeBron xv shoes and the padding under the foot is probably the best I've ever wore. It doesn't seem like basketball shoes are trending to lighter with less protection or support. Are these athletes' shoes different?

monty4329

03-26-2019, 05:13 PM

I find this weird as well. I currently wear a pair of LeBron xv shoes and the padding under the foot is probably the best I've ever wore. It doesn't seem like basketball shoes are trending to lighter with less protection or support. Are these athletes' shoes different?

They are comfortable and soft, great to walk in. Try playing in them. Or worse try playing in those in fabric, there is zero ankle support or protection. If you look, about half the players play on full leather shoes, the other half plays on fabric shoes which I am pretty sure they are dangerous to play on. The sole and padding under is for comfort, not for support of whole the foot. Not saying it is the reason of the many injuries, I am saying they do not help.

NameLess Scrub

03-26-2019, 07:45 PM

They are comfortable and soft, great to walk in. Try playing in them. Or worse try playing in those in fabric, there is zero ankle support or protection. If you look, about half the players play on full leather shoes, the other half plays on fabric shoes which I am pretty sure they are dangerous to play on. The sole and padding under is for comfort, not for support of whole the foot. Not saying it is the reason of the many injuries, I am saying they do not help.

I actually use them to play :lol

They're not what I usually wear though, so I agree with you on the stability and support part. This time I got a pair that had tons of padding on the sole and fell comfortable to jump and fall. I'm of course nowhere near the range of movement of an NBA player.

It'd be great to study this. If they wear both the more stable and the softer kind of shoes, it would be great to find out what are the tendencies in terms of injuries and overall feel after the games.