"996". China overlords are fine with low level workers 72 hr weeks

[Fabbs]

Wow, greedy pricks are everywhere.
Listen to some of these bullshit comments.

Jack Ma, founder of e-commerce giant Alibaba, has spoken out on social media in recent days in support of the Chinese work practice known as "996." The number refers to working from 9 am to 9 pm six days a week and is said to be common among the country's big technology companies and start-ups.
"If we find things we like, 996 is not a problem," Ma said in a blog post Sunday on Chinese social media site Weibo. "If you don't like [your work], every minute is torture," he added.

Richard Liu, founder of Alibaba rival JD.com, reportedly criticized employees at the company who did not work hard enough as "slackers."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/jack-ma-endorses-chinas-controversial-72-hour-workweek/ar-BBVX6Fb?ocid=spartandhp

[Fabbs]

If I wasn't such a slacker I'd learn how to photoshop a Chink face over a Monty Burns pic.

[Fabbs]

and some voices of reason:

Ma's comments prompted criticism from Chinese social media users.
"Did you ever think about the elderly at home who need care, (or) the children who need company?" wrote a Weibo user with the online moniker stupidcan123, in response to Ma's post. "If all enterprises enforce a 996 schedule, no one will have children" becaues of a lack of time, they added.
Chinese state media also slammed those companies that make staff put in long hours at the office, without referencing Ma's post directly. "Advocating hard work and commitment does not mean forcing overtime," wrote state-run newspaper People's Daily in a commentary published Sunday. "The mandatory enforcement of 996 overtime culture not only reflects the arrogance of business managers, but also is unfair and impractical."

"Chinese state media" with some reasonableness? Have we got any Chinks or those familiar with the culture to expound on State media being fair?

[TDMVPDPOY]

they already earning peanuts per hour, yet you want them to slave 996....they already doing 996

if the govt didnt pegged the yuan against world currencies, how many bigcorps would pull out manufacturing to other countries with lower labor costs??

[Millennial_Messiah]

I agree with 996 or 997.

I also believe everyone, regardless of ethnicity, country of origin or social/economic class, globally should have to do it for a required 6 months in their life before age 25. It teaches a good lesson in humility and appreciation for work.

[pgardn]

I agree with 996 or 997.

I also believe everyone, regardless of ethnicity, country of origin or social/economic class, globally should have to do it for a required 6 months in their life before age 25. It teaches a good lesson in humility and appreciation for work.

You needed the military or the Peace Corps for 2 years.

[Millennial_Messiah]

You needed the military or the Peace Corps for 2 years.

I like the Peace Corps and I'll probably have my kids bypass a few early grades so they can do the Peace Corps for a year before they're 18.

Fuck the military, though.

[FrostKing]

Overall output per hour can't be too good.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Overall output per hour can't be too good.

I don't get why not. The theory that more rest = more productivity is socialist bullshit that rejects physics, inertia, math, and science. The reality is that more time spent on the job will have a positive correlation with the highest productivity because of increased experience, mental/muscle memory, kinetic energy, etc.

Those who want to be lazy and whine about being tired or working conditions? Get a college education and improve yourself, or starve. No government foodstamp programs to save your pathetic ass. Lower taxes and save tax revenues for better, more practical and productive things.

[FrostKing]

I don't get why not. The theory that more rest = more productivity is socialist bullshit that rejects physics, inertia, math, and science. The reality is that more time spent on the job will have a positive correlation with the highest productivity because of increased experience, mental/muscle memory, kinetic energy, etc.

Those who want to be lazy and whine about being tired or working conditions? Get a college education and improve yourself, or starve. No government foodstamp programs to save your pathetic ass. Lower taxes and save tax revenues for better, more practical and productive things.
Redundant monkey work? Sure. But creative work from my experience requires a period of clocking out and resetting. I've experienced it with coding - I can't find the error even after an hour of looking back and forth. I sleep on it and within 5 minutes of re-opening the following day I find my error

I think it is hard to be creative and think outside the box when you don't well get out of it. German studies have illustrated superior per hour output in this regard. I think socialist would actually be the opposite mindset: just keep powering away and it will get done. Undervalue the abilities of each individual, instead view things thru a group mindset and we are all equal

[Millennial_Messiah]

Redundant monkey work? Sure. But creative work from my experience requires a period of clocking out and resetting. I've experienced it with coding - I can't find the error even after an hour of looking back and forth. I sleep on it and within 5 minutes of re-opening the following day I find my error

I think it is hard to be creative and think outside the box when you don't well get out of it. German studies have illustrated superior per hour output in this regard. I think socialist would actually be the opposite mindset: just keep powering away and it will get done. Undervalue the abilities of each individual, instead view things thru a group mindset and we are all equal
Creative work absolutely you're right.

But the discussion is about monkey work in China. Manufacturing, packaging, etc... production. More hours = more production on these type of jobs. 996 or 997 makes sense.

[aj3292]

Creative work absolutely you're right.

But the discussion is about monkey work in China. Manufacturing, packaging, etc... production. More hours = more production on these type of jobs. 996 or 997 makes sense.

https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/files/docs/publications/bls/bls_0791-A_1944.pdf
https://oem.bmj.com/content/62/9/588

Output increases at the price of efficiency and quality. Workers become prone to mistakes, accidents and injuries.

[Millennial_Messiah]

https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/files/docs/publications/bls/bls_0791-A_1944.pdf
https://oem.bmj.com/content/62/9/588

Output increases at the price of efficiency and quality. Workers become prone to mistakes, accidents and injuries.
Maybe they should be more careful and mindful, then? It's all on the workers tbh. If they are doing that sort of job and they get injured, it's part of the job and on the workers, not the employers.