Democrats ramp up the transparency

[Th'Pusher]

Bernie and Beto release 10 years of tax returns.

:tu

[Kim Jong-il]

It’s a pointless gesture. Trump voters don’t give a shit about tax returns. If anything, it just gives them the power to go “LOL Socialist Dems are a bunch of rich elitist hypocrites”

[Will Hunting]

It’s a pointless gesture. Trump voters don’t give a shit about tax returns. If anything, it just gives them the power to go “LOL Socialist Dems are a bunch of rich elitist hypocrites”
Maybe with Beto, but Bernie’s tax returns show a pretty ordinary level of income.

[AaronY]

Its good for sure. All candidates should always do this regardless of anything with Trump.

[Spurs Homer]

States are enacting laws requiring ALL presidential candidates to submit them or gtfo of the BALLOT.

[Th'Pusher]

Maybe with Beto, but Bernie’s tax returns show a pretty ordinary level of income.

Beto’s Showed ~375k income iirc.

Bernie’s showed $500 - 1M (book royalties)

[Nathan89]

Bernie is very charitable with a whopping 1% donated. Thanks for looking out for the poors.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/AndrewKerrNC/status/1117922498413305856?s=20

The charitable giving of a rich man that brow beats America. He saved 20++% on taxes compared to what he wants and donates 1-3%.

[Nathan89]

Hey, but thanks for being transparent.

[spurraider21]

Pushing for wages and free healthcare helps more people than he ever could through individual donations. But yes. Poor optics

[Will Hunting]

Pushing for wages and free healthcare helps more people than he ever could through individual donations. But yes. Poor optics
Yes and no. The idea that voluntary charitable donations makes any semblance of a difference in elevating people out of poverty has always been laughable.

[Th'Pusher]

Hey, but thanks for being transparent.

If only we knew what percentage of his income Donald donated to charities...

[Spurminator]

If only we knew what percentage of his income Donald donated to charities...

:lol Right? Look at all of the interest this is generating from people who don't care to see the current Billionaire President's returns.

[Nathan89]

If only we knew what percentage of his income Donald donated to charities...

Whatabouttrumpism. That's irrelevant. Bernie is grandstanding for years about helping the poor and donates 1-3% of his income even though he's giving up 20+% less taxes than he wants to implement. Can't help others unless everyone is forced to by the government apparently. I'm guessing this inconsistency is pretty standard though.

[Will Hunting]

Whatabouttrumpism. That's irrelevant. Bernie is grandstanding for years about helping the poor and donates 1-3% of his income even though he's giving up 20+% less taxes than he wants to implement. Can't help others unless everyone is forced to by the government apparently. I'm guessing this inconsistency is pretty standard though.
What inconsistency? The idea that assistance for the poor requires mandatory government wealth redistribution since there isn’t enough assistance for the poor that comes through voluntary charitable donations seems to be pretty consistent with a relatively wealthy guy only giving 1% of his income to charity.

The only people who claim that private charity programs alone provide adequate assistance for the poor are trickle down conservatives.

[Nathan89]

Perhaps the tens of millions of lefties should take initiative on what they grandstand on. If you care about the poor so much then I'm not sure why you are waiting on the government to force everyone to do something about it. And yes his money if donated would have helped. Just because his donation doesn't solve the entirety of a problem doesn't make not donating the logical choice.

[Will Hunting]

Perhaps the tens of millions of lefties should take initiative on what they grandstand on. If you care about the poor so much then I'm not sure why you are waiting on the government to force everyone to do something about it. And yes his money if donated would have helped. Just because his donation doesn't solve the entirety of a problem doesn't make not donating the logical choice.
How is giving as little of your own money away as possible not logical? It's an act of self interest. No different than how corporations shouldn't be expected to place the interests of anyone/anything above shareholder wealth. Compromising your lifestyle by giving away a chunk of income you're not required to give away isn't logical at all.

The only illogical belief here is that we don't need taxes because the rich are going to voluntary throw their money away and let it trickle down to the poor.

[Will Hunting]

Beto’s Showed ~375k income iirc.

Bernie’s showed $500 - 1M (book royalties)
My mistake, I was referring to the tax returns he submitted for the 2016 primary, didn't realize he now has book royalties that are so significant.

[Nathan89]

How is giving as little of your own money away as possible not logical? It's an act of self interest. No different than how corporations shouldn't be expected to place the interests of anyone/anything above shareholder wealth. Compromising your lifestyle by giving away a chunk of income you're not required to give away isn't logical at all.

The only illogical belief here is that we don't need taxes because the rich are going to voluntary throw their money away and let it trickle down to the poor.

It's not logical if your goal is to help the poors which he has been grandstanding about for years. He cares about the poors so much he donates 1-3%.

Nobody stated that belief. You are kicking down strawman. The only thing that has happened is a rich leftist socialist got called out for barely donating to the poors that he grandstands about.

[Will Hunting]

It's not logical if your goal is to help the poors which he has been grandstanding about for years. He cares about the poors so much he donates 1-3%.

Nobody stated that belief. You are kicking down strawman. The only thing that has happened is a rich leftist socialist got called out for barely donating to the poors that he grandstands about.
He never said he was willing to sacrifice a disproportionately high amount of his personal wealth, and his unwillingness to do so doesn’t mean he doesn’t care about poor people.

How much of his wealth should he have donated and why? Be specific.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1118232485136150529

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1118232485136150529Why does the tweet show a black girl in California when this happened in Alaska?

[Chris]

a black girl in California

Link?

Also: Why does it matter that she is black racist Pavlov?

[ChumpDumper]

Link?The link is in the article your tweet goes to, you idiot.

KPIX is a San Francisco station, you idiot.

I don't know why it mattered so much to "starpolitical" to put a black girl from California in a story about Alaska. That's why I asked, you idiot.

[Will Hunting]

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1118232485136150529
:lol why did you post that in this thread?

[Chris]

:lol why did you post that in this thread?

It was meant for the facism thread but the titles are similar.

[ChumpDumper]

It was meant for the facism thread but the titles are similar.Well it's nice that your standing up for a girl who kicked a guy protesting transgender bathroom access in the nuts anyway.

[MultiTroll]

Compromising your lifestyle by giving away a chunk of income you're not required to give away isn't logical at all.
:lol Share the wealth Bernie is going to be "compromising his lifestyle" if he gives away more then 1-3% of his income?

Guess he will have to have two Big Macs instead of three? Oh the sacrifice.

[Chris]

The link is in the article your tweet goes to, you idiot.

KPIX is a San Francisco station, you idiot.

I don't know why it mattered so much to "starpolitical" to put a black girl from California in a story about Alaska. That's why I asked, you idiot.

She's from San Jose. Her skin color is irrelevant to me, but a huge concern for you. So much so that you had to sign in to your main account.

Wow.

[MultiTroll]

Compromising your lifestyle by giving away a chunk of income you're not required to give away isn't logical at all.
:lol Share the wealth Bernie is going to be "compromising his lifestyle" if he gives away more then 1-3% of his income?

Guess he will have to have two Big Macs instead of three? Oh the sacrifice.

[Nathan89]

He never said he was willing to sacrifice a disproportionately high amount of his personal wealth, and his unwillingness to do so doesn’t mean he doesn’t care about poor people.

How much of his wealth should he have donated and why? Be specific.

His platform says he is but apparently only if the government forces him and everyone else to do it. Until then he apparently thinks that donating basically nothing will suffice while grandstanding.

Well if wants higher taxes then should have been willing to donate all the tax money that he saved because he has lower taxes.

[Chris]

Well it's nice that your standing up for a girl who kicked a guy protesting transgender bathroom access in the nuts anyway.

I'm not standing up for anything, just passing along information. Did you figure out what skin color the girl and guy have yet or are we still in the dark on that?

[Nathan89]

Bernie: Beef is bad for the environment.

Bernie: The government should ban beef to help the environment.

Pictures of Bernie eating juicy hamburgers.

Will Hunting: That's logical because he enjoys burgers. Also him giving up burgers does nothing because everyone needs to do it. Individual acts don't make a difference.

To sum up the thread that is effectively what happened via this transparency. Die on the hill for Bernie if you wish.

[Spurtacular]

Bernie and Beto release 10 years of tax returns.

:tu

To confirm they suck at business? :lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1118288830845599761

So transparent :lol

[Chris]

In the letter Jordan asks Cummings to “provide greater transparency around your secretive conduct.”

:lmao

[Th'Pusher]

That's irrelevant.

It’s not irrelevant. It’s the point of the thread. Bernie’s transparency enabled you to whine like the little bitch everyone in this forum knows you are. See how that works?

:lol you’re a deeply scared ex-Bernie bro. You took him bowing out of the 2016 primary to HRC way too hard dude.

[Will Hunting]

His platform says he is but apparently only if the government forces him and everyone else to do it. Until then he apparently thinks that donating basically nothing will suffice while grandstanding.

Well if wants higher taxes then should have been willing to donate all the tax money that he saved because he has lower taxes.
Where does his platform say he’s willing to give away a disproportionately high amount of his wealth vs. others with a comparable income level to help the poor?

[Will Hunting]

Bernie: Beef is bad for the environment.

Bernie: The government should ban beef to help the environment.

Pictures of Bernie eating juicy hamburgers.

Will Hunting: That's logical because he enjoys burgers. Also him giving up burgers does nothing because everyone needs to do it. Individual acts don't make a difference.

To sum up the thread that is effectively what happened via this transparency. Die on the hill for Bernie if you wish.
I’m not sure why you’re going off on some weird tange about beef and hamburgers but I’m not sure what’s absurd about the idea of someone who enjoys eating burgers eating a burger.

[Will Hunting]

:lol Share the wealth Bernie is going to be "compromising his lifestyle" if he gives away more then 1-3% of his income?

Guess he will have to have two Big Macs instead of three? Oh the sacrifice.
So how much should he give away? Be specific. Nathan89 avoided this question already but maybe you’ll answer it.

[DMC]

Nothing like a good round of recreational outrage to fuel thread growth.

[Pavlov]

I'm not standing up for anything, just passing along information. Did you figure out what skin color the girl and guy have yet or are we still in the dark on that?
:lol the San Jose story had nothing to do with the Alaska story, you idiot.

[Chris]

:lol the San Jose story had nothing to do with the Alaska story, you idiot.

That is factually incorrect. They both revolved around school bathrooms. I see you have devolved into Blake tier status with the name-calling. Sorry for calling you out on your blatant racism.

[Nathan89]

Where does his platform say he’s willing to give away a disproportionately high amount of his wealth vs. others with a comparable income level to help the poor?

So he only wants to help the poor if he's able to force everyone to do with him. The leader we need.

[Nathan89]

So how much should he give away? Be specific. Nathan89 avoided this question already but maybe you’ll answer it.

He can start with the total amount of taxes he's saving compared to the tax rate he wants to force on others.

[Th'Pusher]

So he only wants to help the poor if he's able to force everyone to do with him. The leader we need.

You actively supported Bernie 3 short years ago. You supported him when he campaigned on a similar platform and when he previously released his tax returns which included similar charitable contributions...

[Will Hunting]

So he only wants to help the poor if he's able to force everyone to do with him. The leader we need.
If that’s how you want to editorialize the basic idea of everyone being bound by the same tax policy, fine, but glad we’re in agreement that his charitable contributions don’t conflict with his policy platform.

Thanks for playing, better luck next time.

[MultiTroll]

So how much should he give away? Be specific. Nathan89 avoided this question already but maybe you’ll answer it.
How long has he been pulling 500K a year for?

[Will Hunting]

How long has he been pulling 500K a year for?
3 years assuming the table Nathan posted is correct.

[Pavlov]

That is factually incorrect. They both revolved around school bathrooms. I see you have devolved into Blake tier status with the name-calling. Sorry for calling you out on your blatant racism.:lol you proved no racism whatsoever. Sorry I had to educate you about your own post, Qhris.

[Nathan89]

If that’s how you want to editorialize the basic idea of everyone being bound by the same tax policy, fine, but glad we’re in agreement that his charitable contributions don’t conflict with his policy platform.

Thanks for playing, better luck next time.

It doesn't conflict with his platform it conflicts with his moral outrage.

[Pavlov]

It doesn't conflict with his platform it conflicts with his moral outrage.Why did you support him before?

[Spurminator]

How long has he been pulling 500K a year for?

Since before Nathan was a big fan of his.

[Will Hunting]

It doesn't conflict with his platform it conflicts with his moral outrage.
Cool. Glad you’re conceding that it doesn’t conflict with his platform when you previously said it did.

[Spurtacular]

Anyone else remember "the most transparent administration ever"?

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

In the letter Jordan asks Cummings to “provide greater transparency around your secretive conduct.”

:lmao

:lmao Stupid shitheads