View Full Version : A militia group detained migrants at the border. The ACLU calls it kidnapping
ducks
04-19-2019, 07:15 PM
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/04/19/us/border-militia-migrants/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F
Kidnapping lol they broke the law and entered USA soil illegal
People have right to protect their USA soil
ducks
04-19-2019, 07:16 PM
Alcu are racist pieces of shit
Winehole23
04-19-2019, 09:05 PM
Belongs in the ramping up the fascism thread. Paramilitaries doing the charismatic leader's bidding while providing plausible deniability for violence.
Those guys belong in jail for enforcing federal law. That's not for you and me to do, ducks.
ducks
04-19-2019, 11:51 PM
Veterans know how to handle firearms and people
Not typically people out of blue that do not have training
Belongs in the ramping up the fascism thread. Paramilitaries doing the charismatic leader's bidding while providing plausible deniability for violence.
Those guys belong in jail for enforcing federal law. That's not for you and me to do, ducks.
Well regulated militia bad now.
We've always had the right to make citizens arrests. No one minded the "we" part when regular folks did the National Guard's job in Houston.
Well regulated militia bad now.
We've always had the right to make citizens arrests. No one minded the "we" part when regular folks did the National Guard's job in Houston.
Burgers are getting cold.
Winehole23
04-20-2019, 12:11 AM
Well regulated militia bad now.
We've always had the right to make citizens arrests. No one minded the "we" part when regular folks did the National Guard's job in Houston.Properly deputized.
If you think a self-deputized militia is equivalent to the National Guard you're twisted.
Winehole23
04-20-2019, 12:12 AM
Tell us how this militia is well-regulated.
Winehole23
04-20-2019, 12:13 AM
Have you even heard of them before?
Chris
04-20-2019, 12:21 AM
Good to see Americans upholding the law and protecting the country.
Winehole23
04-20-2019, 12:22 AM
Um, self-deputized citizens are not the law.
Winehole23
04-20-2019, 12:26 AM
These guys should go directly to jail. They have no authority to detain anyone.
Winehole23
04-20-2019, 12:28 AM
If DJT can't handle it, that's on him. We can't have irregular, UNREGULATED militias enforcing US law.
Period.
Winehole23
04-20-2019, 12:29 AM
If we need that, it's a failure of government.
DJT's government.
Winehole23
04-20-2019, 12:32 AM
Oh, but DMC says they do.
Winehole23
04-20-2019, 12:33 AM
So much for the republic under DMC. Any asshole militia can enforce it.
Winehole23
04-20-2019, 12:36 AM
In b4 they're internally well-regulated.
Fuck that shit. What is this, the wild, wild west?
UnWantedTheory
04-20-2019, 01:36 AM
Good to see Americans upholding the law and protecting the country.By breaking the law?
UnWantedTheory
04-20-2019, 01:42 AM
Well regulated militia bad now.
We've always had the right to make citizens arrests. No one minded the "we" part when regular folks did the National Guard's job in Houston.
I could be wrong, but illegally crossing is not a breach of peace, nor a felony. We have the NG for a reason. Citizens trying to get involved will make it worse, and most likely lead to some unnecessary and tragic events. If these people don't want to surrender, you just can't shoot them or beat them down, as it would be a crime. It is best citizens stay out of it.
UnWantedTheory
04-20-2019, 01:51 AM
“We can't make them stay if they don't want to,” Benvie said, comparing the detention of migrants to a “verbal citizen’s arrest."
“If these people follow our verbal commands, we hold them until Border Patrol comes,” Benvie told The Times. “Border Patrol has never asked us to stand down.”
If that is the case, fine. But they were holding them at gun point. That is a crime. We need the BP and NG to do their job, not armed citizens. Ironically, the issue of illegal immigration is actually getting worse under Trump.
I could be wrong, but illegally crossing is not a breach of peace, nor a felony. We have the NG for a reason. Citizens trying to get involved will make it worse, and most likely lead to some unnecessary and tragic events. If these people don't want to surrender, you just can't shoot them or beat them down, as it would be a crime. It is best citizens stay out of it.
It's a misdemeanor. Nothing big, you pay a fine and get deported back or just get deported because let's face it, most of them cant pay.
In the other hand, you can make a case the stupid "militia" group who held these people up at gun point could be brought up on kidnapping charges, impersonating a law enforcement agent, etc.
Not the brightest bulbs in this group for sure.
The article says this group held up as much as 300 immigrants, including children. This rogue group should definitely be looked into for potential crimes committed.
FrostKing
04-20-2019, 02:55 AM
Bulgarians did it first
"A NOTORIOUS “migrant hunter” who described rounding up refugees as a “sport” has sparked panic after buying himself a helicopter gunship.
Dinko Valev, 29, has already amassed a private arsenal of military-spec vehicles, leading human rights activists to worry his vigilante actions are being supported by the Bulgarian government."
AaronY
04-20-2019, 04:19 AM
Votingrepublican.jpeg
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1119723860700614656
:lol DMC Chris
Your hero:
https://kfoxtv.com/resources/media/a162b7ae-49a6-4fce-8dda-511e985528be-large16x9_KFOX_LARRYMITCHELLHOPKINS.png?1555799073 827
:lmao
Chris
04-20-2019, 05:37 PM
As usual Reck didn't read the article. Dude got arrested for possessing firearms and ammunition as a convicted felon. :lol
FAR RIGHT CONSPIRACIES SCARY STUFF! :lol
As usual Reck didn't read the article. Dude got arrested for possessing firearms and ammunition as a convicted felon. :lol
FAR RIGHT CONSPIRACIES SCARY STUFF! :lol
He got arrested as a direct consequence of what he did, you fucking idiot.
:lol Arresting people without the authority while having illegal weapons, impersonating an official and then posting a video about it.
Chris
04-20-2019, 05:47 PM
He got arrested as a direct consequence of what he did, you fucking idiot.
:lol Arresting people without the authority while having illegal weapons, impersonating an official and then posting a video about it.
He got arrested for possessing firearms and ammunition as a convicted felon :lol
lol Reck
Pavlov
04-20-2019, 05:50 PM
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1119723860700614656
:lol DMC Chris
Your hero:
https://kfoxtv.com/resources/media/a162b7ae-49a6-4fce-8dda-511e985528be-large16x9_KFOX_LARRYMITCHELLHOPKINS.png?1555799073 827
:lmao:lmao DMC's well-regulated militia.
The FBI arrested Larry Mitchell Hopkins, 69, for alleged unlawful possession of firearms and ammunition
Chris cant google, math or read. :lol
Chris
04-20-2019, 05:54 PM
Chris cant google, math or read. :lol
From YOUR article; second paragraph
Larry Mitchell Hopkins, who runs The United Constitutional Patriots (UCP), an armed border militia group that spreads far-right conspiracies and rounds up asylum seekers on the border, was arrested by FBI in New Mexico Saturday on charges of possessing firearms and ammunition as a convicted felon.
lol Reck doesn't understand what's going on EVER
From YOUR article; second paragraph
lol Reck doesn't understand what's going on EVER
He was a convicted felon AND had guns that were illegally obtained. They can both be true.
:lol Your brain melting over these facts.
Chris
04-20-2019, 05:57 PM
He was a convicted felon AND had guns that were illegally obtained. They can both be true.
:lol Your brain melting over these facts.
unlawful possession of firearms and ammunition = charges of possessing firearms and ammunition as a convicted felon
You're an idiot.
unlawful possession of firearms and ammunition = charges of possessing firearms and ammunition as a convicted felon
You're an idiot.
:lol Lashing out his hero got arrested.
"asylum seekers" :lol
Spin that shit
Reck :lol
Reckon not :lol
Burgers are getting cold.
Put some shadow flames on them, that'll do the trick.
Properly deputized.
If you think a self-deputized militia is equivalent to the National Guard you're twisted.
In the United States a private person may arrest another without a warrant, for a crime occurring in their presence. For which crimes this is permitted may vary state by state.[77]
boutons_deux
04-20-2019, 09:50 PM
old decrepit white guy is combat ready
Trill Clinton
04-20-2019, 10:08 PM
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1119723860700614656
:lol DMC (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665) Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656)
Your hero:
https://kfoxtv.com/resources/media/a162b7ae-49a6-4fce-8dda-511e985528be-large16x9_KFOX_LARRYMITCHELLHOPKINS.png?1555799073 827
:lmao
The leader of the militia is a convicted felon? imagine supporting a career thug:lmao
Right wingers will support any damn body lol
https://media.giphy.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/giphy.gif
boutons_deux
04-20-2019, 10:17 PM
PayPal, GoFundMe Yank Accounts for Far-Right Militia Rounding Up Migrants at Border (https://gizmodo.com/paypal-gofundme-yank-accounts-for-far-right-militia-ro-1834193555)
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TheGreatYacht
04-21-2019, 12:34 AM
The only true way to end immigration and refugees is to STOP doing regime change in other countries and placing US puppets. Stop bombing 8 different countries. We are responsible for the muslim refugee crisis in Europe. Stop fighting Israel's wars.
UnWantedTheory
04-21-2019, 02:25 AM
In the United States a private person may arrest another without a warrant, for a crime occurring in their presence. For which crimes this is permitted may vary state by state.[77]
Holding these people at gun point is not a citizen's arrest. Vigilantism is a crime. If you attempt to physically detain you can very easily have the script flipped on you. They are not citizens that happened upon something in aid of law enforcement, they are out searching for trouble. There is a difference. We have the NG for a reason and these hillbillies obviously aren't well regulated.
Winehole23
04-21-2019, 07:21 AM
https://www.wokv.com/news/national/militia-leader-arrested-mexico-border/IRWylOgk4er0XCp9PO27CN/amp.html
The leader of the militia is a convicted felon? imagine supporting a career thug:lmao
Right wingers will support any damn body lol
https://media.giphy.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/giphy.gif
That's really rich coming from you.
https://www.wokv.com/news/national/militia-leader-arrested-mexico-border/IRWylOgk4er0XCp9PO27CN/amp.html
The fact that he's the "militia leader", something I am a bit skeptic of, has little to do with his arrest. It was stated already.
Pavlov
04-21-2019, 12:32 PM
Looks well maintained tho amitite?
Spurtacular
04-21-2019, 04:29 PM
The only true way to end immigration and refugees is to STOP doing regime change in other countries and placing US puppets. Stop bombing 8 different countries. We are responsible for the muslim refugee crisis in Europe. Stop fighting Israel's wars.
US played a part. So have others. But the truth is these are the shadow govts. doing most of it. Nothing is going to change until the individual countries get their houses in order. That's obviously not stopping any time soon. Blue pilled bitches like chump scoff at the term shadow govt. So, do his chumpettes.
Spurtacular
04-21-2019, 04:47 PM
Eunuch Reck shutting down.
boutons_deux
04-22-2019, 09:32 PM
Militia leader patrolling U.S. border said group was training to kill Hillary Clinton, George Soros
The leader of the United Constitutional Patriots (UCP), a militia group that filmed itself detaining asylum seekers near the U.S.-Mexico border last week,
embraced the same rhetoric used by other far-right extremists,
including allegedly saying his group was plotting to assassinate Hillary Clinton and George Soros,
as well as making a reference to the sovereign citizen movement.
Larry Mitchell Hopkins was arrested by federal agents on Saturday after
he was charged with being a felon in possession of firearms and ammunition
the UCP had previous run-ins with the law — including one 2017 incident after the FBI received a tip that
the group was engaged in “militia extremist activity” in Flora Vista, New Mexico.
Hopkins allegedly said
the group was “training to assassinate George Soros, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.”
He claimed it was because the three prominent Democrats supported Antifa, according to the complaint.
A month later, when FBI agents returned to talk with Hopkins, they observed at least nine firearms in Hopkins’ office, which he said were owned by his “common law wife.”
The complaint added that
Hopkins had previous convictions for firearms possession in 1996 and 2006,
as well as an impersonating a police officer charge from 2006.
https://thinkprogress.org/militia-border-far-right-clinton-soros-f05347b82a6f/ (https://thinkprogress.org/militia-border-far-right-clinton-soros-f05347b82a6f/)
... if Hopkins, and his militia, were Black Panthers.
Winehole23
04-22-2019, 11:25 PM
Well regulated militia.
DerpMC.
Spurminator
04-22-2019, 11:45 PM
So, since this group is breaking the law, could another militia group detain them?
We could have militia wars at the border. That'd be cool.
Winehole23
04-22-2019, 11:53 PM
What, the Trump Administration, the Texas DPS and the US Army can't do it?
Why are our federal and state government so weak? Why couldn't the 2016-2018 GOP majority pass strong laws: cry
:lol @ this moron admitting he was plotting to kill Obama and his ilk.
Chris sure knows how to pick his heroes. :lmao
hater
04-23-2019, 03:44 PM
:lmao :lmao dumb racist crackas now have less rights than illegals :lmao :lmao
This is fucking great :lmao
Illegals out there getting pussy and drinking beer while these retards getting assrammed by Cletus :lmao
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