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Spurtacular
04-21-2019, 05:04 PM
No. I've never seen a "great" shooter airball so many threes / shots. He's a product of these NBA rules that allow no contact on the arc.

He'd have been checked at half court or full court back in the day. These ten feet behind the line threes would've been rare.

Mark Celibate
04-21-2019, 05:12 PM
profound analysis

Clipper Nation
04-21-2019, 05:21 PM
Yeah, if only he was as good as Jimmer Fredette.

Bynumite
04-21-2019, 05:38 PM
Definitely something that's holding back Curry in the all time debate is the lack of true dominant playoff series, iconic playoff moments and the fmvp that continues to escape his grasp but he's still the best shooter of all time.

He's still relatively young though and if KD leaves Curry might be able to return to 2015 form.

Spurtacular
04-21-2019, 05:40 PM
Definitely something that's holding Curry back in the all time debate is the lack of true dominant playoff series, iconic playoff moments and the fmvp that continuous to escape his grasp but he's still the best shooter of all time.

He's still relatively young though and if KD leaves Curry might be able to return to 2015 form.

League has evolved. There will be no return to (lucky) 2015 for Curry.

Curry needs KD, but KD doesn't need Curry. Curry and Donkey need KD more than Klay need KD for that matter. That's why they begged for him to come.

baseline bum
04-21-2019, 05:48 PM
Definitely something that's holding back Curry in the all time debate is the lack of true dominant playoff series, iconic playoff moments and the fmvp that continues to escape his grasp but he's still the best shooter of all time.

He's still relatively young though and if KD leaves Curry might be able to return to 2015 form.

https://i.gifer.com/TZjm.gif

Bynumite
04-21-2019, 05:51 PM
Curry needs KD, but KD doesn't need Curry.

That makes no sense since KD was the one who left OKC to join Curry's team and GS was the team stopping KD from reaching the Finals at the time.

Curry is the system, KD said it himself. They often look like dogshit without Curry, he opens up the floor for KD to comfortably pad his stats, see the last couple of Finals for example.

Rummpd
04-21-2019, 06:08 PM
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ts_pct_career.html

Among those not living in paint he is tops - I despise him and Durant but they are greats

DPG21920
04-21-2019, 06:19 PM
This is so bad :lol. Curry is not only one of the, if not the best shooter of all time, he’s one of the best players of all time.

Benoit
04-21-2019, 07:07 PM
League has evolved. There will be no return to (lucky) 2015 for Curry.

Curry needs KD, but KD doesn't need Curry. Curry and Donkey need KD more than Klay need KD for that matter. That's why they begged for him to come.
OMFG

This gotta be the worst take ever

Curry is 24-1 in his last 25 games without KD

Spurtacular
04-21-2019, 07:57 PM
OMFG

This gotta be the worst take ever

Curry is 24-1 in his last 25 games without KD

Yea, he's a regular season champion.

Spurtacular
04-21-2019, 07:58 PM
That makes no sense since KD was the one who left OKC to join Curry's team and GS was the team stopping KD from reaching the Finals at the time.

Curry is the system, KD said it himself. They often look like dogshit without Curry, he opens up the floor for KD to comfortably pad his stats, see the last couple of Finals for example.

I was speaking of going forward. Yea, we all know KD took the beta path by going to GS. Curry not going to win any more MVPs. League figured him out. He was just a continuation of Steve Nash. Nobody believes he's a closer.

DMC
04-21-2019, 09:17 PM
Curry isn't as dominant as KD. KD is the best player in the game. Curry is up there pretty high, but his defense weighs him down. You have to understand he's a 2x MVP because of his offense. That's pretty good shooting. Give the guy credit, he's enabled the franchise to keep winning by not crying about having someone else share the spotlight in Oakland.

FrostKing
04-21-2019, 09:32 PM
In the postseason?

Rex Chapman more clutch than all these mental midgets you guys are debating over.

DMC
04-21-2019, 09:57 PM
In the postseason?

Rex Chapman more clutch than all these mental midgets you guys are debating over.

Yeah, this year will be his 5th consecutive Finals appearance assuming he gets there. Rex do that?

Spurtacular
04-21-2019, 11:36 PM
Curry 1-9 3's today.

R. DeMurre
04-22-2019, 12:15 AM
Curry's career 3pt% is higher than Westbrook's career FG%.

He's shot over 40% from 3pt land 10 years in a row. His worst percentage from three for a season was 41.1%.

DPG21920
04-22-2019, 12:30 AM
Curry's career 3pt% is higher than Westbrook's career FG%.

He's shot over 40% from 3pt land 10 years in a row. His worst percentage from three for a season was 41.1%.

Not only that, it’s even more impressive that it’s not just catch and shoot. He hits at that clip with every different type of shot possible; assisted or not.

R. DeMurre
04-22-2019, 12:38 AM
:lol Rex Chapman? Completely average shooter who can't even compare to Manu or Sean Elliot.

lefty
04-22-2019, 10:25 AM
Not only that, it’s even more impressive that it’s not just catch and shoot. He hits at that clip with every different type of shot possible; assisted or not.
His deep range % is even higher IIRC
(like between the logo and the 3 pr line)

Chucho
04-22-2019, 11:04 AM
You'd almost be taken back on how stupid this take is and then you see Alt(ar) Boy made this thread...

spurraider21
04-22-2019, 04:24 PM
there isn't really a close second

MultiTroll
04-22-2019, 10:56 PM
Curry isn't as dominant as KD. KD is the best player in the game.
Ya I'm sure if you traded Greak Freak for Durbeta the Warriors would be worse and the Bucks would be better.

FOH.

Spurtacular
05-01-2019, 09:10 AM
Curry 3-10 3FG Gm1, 3-13 3FG Gm2

Where would the Warriors be without that?

lefty
05-01-2019, 09:22 AM
Curry 3-10 3FG Gm1, 3-13 3FG Gm2

Where would the Warriors be without that?
Didn’t he dislocate his finger early in game 2?

MultiTroll
05-01-2019, 09:30 AM
Didn’t he dislocate his finger early in game 2?
yes.
And his rare 3-10 game does not wipe out all the other trey bombs he has hit.

Look SpurT, I agree the pampered phaggot Curry would not do nearly as much with fair reffing, opponents not having incredibly bad injury luck and in an era that had another team with some balls (See healthy Kwa Game 1). But Curry has hit plenty of long, contested bombs over and over again. Twinky is legit.

TDfan2007
05-01-2019, 02:06 PM
Curry isn't as dominant as KD. KD is the best player in the game. Curry is up there pretty high, but his defense weighs him down. You have to understand he's a 2x MVP because of his offense. That's pretty good shooting. Give the guy credit, he's enabled the franchise to keep winning by not crying about having someone else share the spotlight in Oakland.

This. Durant is the warrior's best overall player, but Curry is their engine and most irreplaceable piece. His presence gives KD the freedom to go nuts without worrying about too much help coming his way.

And to address op, at this point it's inarguable that Curry is the greatest shooter in history, with Larry Bird and Ray Allen coming in at 2 and 3.

tlongII
05-01-2019, 11:57 PM
Give Lillard the same looks and I don’t think you see any difference.

Spurtacular
05-02-2019, 12:14 AM
yes.
And his rare 3-10 game does not wipe out all the other trey bombs he has hit.


He wouldn't even be an all-star in the hand check era. No way.

Spurtacular
05-02-2019, 12:16 AM
And to address op, at this point it's inarguable that Curry is the greatest shooter in history, with Larry Bird and Ray Allen coming in at 2 and 3.

Nope. Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, Chris Mullin, Larry Bird, Pistol Pete all much purer shooters. They were not given extra feet of space by rule.

Chris
05-02-2019, 12:33 AM
Give Lillard the same looks and I don’t think you see any difference.

Pretty sure Lillard has the green light to shoot whenever.

Spurtacular
05-02-2019, 12:53 AM
Lillard a better shooter than Curry at this point. But he's another example of how players are emoldened to extend their range by as much as 12 or 15 feet b/c players can't put a body on them or hand check.

FrostKing
05-02-2019, 02:05 AM
Nash, Hornacek and Stockton all better

TDMVPDPOY
05-02-2019, 09:02 AM
shooters these days if they played in the 80-90s chucking from that sort of range, the coach would yank them out... there were plenty of sharp shooters, efficient shooters who only shot when t hey were open, they never had the chance to be a chucker like the players today... a 3pt shot back then was considered a low % shot not worth taking unless ur open....

todays they allow that shit
u go to rec gym pickup games, u got wankers doing that sort of shit now...chucking long range 3s

ambchang
05-02-2019, 11:15 AM
Objectively speaking there really isn’t much of an argument. One has to wonder whether other players can have the same result if they can get that much separation from a steady diet of moving screens. We’d never know though.

Nash has the range and not the gunners mentality.

Bird and dirk shoots more inside the arc.

Miller has the ugliest stroke ever and rarely does pull ups.

Allen was more of a driver and likely can dribble free like curry could.

Arenas and Abdul rauf has the mentality but not the range.

Lillard could be it but he doesn’t have the moving screens curry gets.

DMC
05-02-2019, 12:36 PM
shooters these days if they played in the 80-90s chucking from that sort of range, the coach would yank them out... there were plenty of sharp shooters, efficient shooters who only shot when t hey were open, they never had the chance to be a chucker like the players today... a 3pt shot back then was considered a low % shot not worth taking unless ur open....

todays they allow that shit
u go to rec gym pickup games, u got wankers doing that sort of shit now...chucking long range 3s

They were mathematically challenged.

tlongII
05-02-2019, 09:09 PM
Pretty sure Lillard has the green light to shoot whenever.

He does, but he doesn’t get the same looks as Curry. Defenses can’t key on Curry with Durant and Thompson out there.

lefty
05-02-2019, 10:58 PM
Objectively speaking there really isn’t much of an argument. One has to wonder whether other players can have the same result if they can get that much separation from a steady diet of moving screens. We’d never know though.

Nash has the range and not the gunners mentality.

Bird and dirk shoots more inside the arc.

Miller has the ugliest stroke ever and rarely does pull ups.

Allen was more of a driver and likely can dribble free like curry could.

Arenas and Abdul rauf has the mentality but not the range.

Lillard could be it but he doesn’t have the moving screens curry gets.

Abdul Rauf would probably get the range in today’s NBA - perimeter players have more space and freedom

313
05-03-2019, 12:48 AM
He does, but he doesn’t get the same looks as Curry. Defenses can’t key on Curry with Durant and Thompson out there.
Curry was doing this before KD? Curry averages 7% better from three on more attempts?

I like Lillard but :lol

313
05-03-2019, 12:54 AM
Really can't use the era argument when no one else in this same era has come even close :lol

Even the best spot up shooters drop below 40% once every few seasons, and on less attempts.

congrats for getting ppl to bite on an obvious bait thread tho

midnightpulp
05-03-2019, 06:37 AM
They were mathematically challenged.

Yeah, it's pretty weird how long it took the basketball world to realize, "Hey, you know what, this shot is worth 50 percent more and isn't really all that more difficult!" To be fair, I thought the increased points per shot value of the three would be offset by the increased amount of fastbreaks an opposing team could generate off misses. It was thought for a long time that fastbreaks are easier to come by off jumpshot misses, especially long jumpers. Doesn't seem to be the case.

Isitjustme?
05-03-2019, 06:52 AM
Curry 1-9 3's today.

:lol daily updates :lol

Good going. Keep us updated mate :tu

Isitjustme?
05-03-2019, 06:54 AM
He does, but he doesn’t get the same looks as Curry. Defenses can’t key on Curry with Durant and Thompson out there.

Curry was a way better shooter than Lillard has ever been long before Durant ever went to GS

lefty
05-03-2019, 09:42 AM
But Curry is benefiting from illegal screens

Neo.
05-03-2019, 04:27 PM
lillards range and difficult shot making ability is probably as good as stephs (maybe even arguably better)

but when it comes to general shooting consistency, hes not even close to steph

stephs consistency is what really sets him apart from everyone else, the only shooter ive ever seen that had the consistency steph has was nash, but nash didnt have the range and wasn't quite as good at creating his own shot

FrostKing
05-03-2019, 06:16 PM
But Lillard doesn't shimmy fag shake

spurraider21
05-03-2019, 06:33 PM
Lillard a better shooter than Curry at this point. But he's another example of how players are emoldened to extend their range by as much as 12 or 15 feet b/c players can't put a body on them or hand check.
short memory

spurraider21
05-03-2019, 07:05 PM
Yeah, it's pretty weird how long it took the basketball world to realize, "Hey, you know what, this shot is worth 50 percent more and isn't really all that more difficult!" To be fair, I thought the increased points per shot value of the three would be offset by the increased amount of fastbreaks an opposing team could generate off misses. It was thought for a long time that fastbreaks are easier to come by off jumpshot misses, especially long jumpers. Doesn't seem to be the case.
wasnt that long ago DMC was shitting on curry for taking too many 3's

DMC
05-03-2019, 08:29 PM
Yeah, it's pretty weird how long it took the basketball world to realize, "Hey, you know what, this shot is worth 50 percent more and isn't really all that more difficult!" To be fair, I thought the increased points per shot value of the three would be offset by the increased amount of fastbreaks an opposing team could generate off misses. It was thought for a long time that fastbreaks are easier to come by off jumpshot misses, especially long jumpers. Doesn't seem to be the case.

It was when teams would crash the offensive glass. Now they don't so much.

DMC
05-03-2019, 08:31 PM
wasnt that long ago DMC was shitting on curry for taking too many 3's

What? A contradiction? Do tell.

I shat upon him for shot selection, not volume. There's several pages differentiating between the two but you don't seem to give a shit about facts, crumb snatcher.

Spurtacular
05-03-2019, 09:17 PM
Objectively speaking there really isn’t much of an argument. One has to wonder whether other players can have the same result if they can get that much separation from a steady diet of moving screens. We’d never know though.


Forgot about that shit. Yea, even 8 years ago the dribbler literally had to be well past the screen before the screener was allowed to move, or the moving screen was called.

tlongII
05-04-2019, 03:41 AM
I’ll give you that Steph’s a little better pure shooter. However Dame is the better player.

lefty
05-05-2019, 12:40 AM
1124887773150892033

Spurtacular
05-05-2019, 12:54 AM
Gm 1 3-10 3FG
Gm 2 3-13 3FG
Gm 3 2-9 3FG

Spurtacular
05-05-2019, 03:06 AM
According to SC, Curry 1 for 4 on dunks this year. :lmao

RC_Drunkford
05-05-2019, 05:43 AM
Bryn Forbes is :pop:

WallyTiger
05-05-2019, 08:38 AM
Stephanie so bad, she is done.

FkLA
05-05-2019, 10:33 AM
1124887773150892033

:lol

FrostKing
05-05-2019, 01:35 PM
https://youtu.be/jBFF4PnCaXE

Spurtacular
05-05-2019, 04:41 PM
https://youtu.be/jBFF4PnCaXE

KD coming to town buried the narrative of how bad he choked, tbh.

Also, :lmao at them giving away Game 7 at Oracle after Curry had teased that he could still smell the champagne at The Q during the regular season.

ambchang
05-05-2019, 05:38 PM
Durant and curry proving that two choking superstars will work together because they rarely can choke together.

TDMVPDPOY
05-05-2019, 05:54 PM
not even an efficient shooter

just a player with range, given t he green light to chuck

Spurtacular
05-07-2019, 01:31 AM
Gm 1 3-10 3FG
Gm 2 3-13 3FG
Gm 3 2-9 3FG

Gm 4 4-14 3FG

Sounds like a banner night for Curry.

FrostKing
05-07-2019, 01:57 AM
Thompson 5-15, 1-6

Steve Kerr couldn't accomplish that

cutewizard
05-07-2019, 02:22 AM
:bobo

Spurtacular
05-11-2019, 02:03 AM
Gm 1 3-10 3FG
Gm 2 3-13 3FG
Gm 3 2-9 3FG


Gm 4 4-14 3FG

Sounds like a banner night for Curry.

You wouldn't know it from the highlights / narratives out there...

Gm 5 3-11 3FG
Gm 6 4-11 3FG (SAS: "Rockets had no answer for him" :lol)

Series: 19-68 3FG

SMH 27.9 3FG for the series, and his team wins a series.
SMH Today's NBA.

SAS tonight even: "We consider him the greatest shooter we've ever seen."

FrostKing
05-11-2019, 02:27 AM
You wouldn't know it from the highlights / narratives out there...

Gm 5 3-11 3FG
Gm 6 4-11 3FG (SAS: "Rockets had no answer for him" :lol)

Series: 19-68 3FG

SMH 27.9 3FG for the series, and his team wins a series.
SMH Today's NBA.

SAS tonight even: "We consider him the greatest shooter we've ever seen."
Under 40% FG for the series

R. DeMurre
05-11-2019, 08:47 AM
People get used to Steph and Klay and take them for granted, but in the big picture what they've accomplished is incredible. Between the two of them, they have 18 NBA seasons, and neither one of them has ever shot below 40% from three in any of those seasons. Compare this with James Harden, who has never shot above 40% from three for a season in 10 seasons, or Russell Westbrook, who has shot below 30% in 6 of his 11 seasons, and never hit even 35% in a single season. If you extrapolate that out to a 100 shots from three, here are the points you're getting from the career averages of those four players:

Westbrook: 92.4 pts
Harden: 109.5 pts
Klay: 125.7 pts
Steph: 130.8 pts

LeGiannis
05-11-2019, 09:23 AM
Under 40% FG for the series

Except Curry was getting double-teamed and trapped constantly. I don't remember Revgie Miller or Ray Allen getting that much focus.

MultiTroll
05-11-2019, 10:05 AM
I characterize it as Rockets Retardation >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything Curry and the Phaggots did.

Currys bombs at the end were fantastic tho. Give him that.

Spurtacular
05-11-2019, 11:27 PM
Except Curry was getting double-teamed and trapped constantly. I don't remember Revgie Miller or Ray Allen getting that much focus.

Then you weren't paying enough attention.

lefty
05-12-2019, 01:15 AM
Another picture of Steph partying hard

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/WeSqCCe

Spurtacular
06-13-2019, 11:48 PM
23-67 3FG in the Finals and misses the open shot to send the series to Game 7.

Capt Bringdown
06-14-2019, 12:06 AM
1-2 in the Finals without Durant are the Splash bros

TD >>> Splash bros

james evans
06-14-2019, 01:40 AM
Klay may be a better shooter than curry. From what I've seen Klay doesn't need 4 or 5 moving screens on a play to hit a shot

james evans
06-14-2019, 01:42 AM
Then you weren't paying enough attention.
he's too young to remember. Mfs aren't even old enough to remember Ray Allen in his prime in Seattle and Milwaukee or Reggie with the Pacers. Give Dale Ellis 10 open 3's a game off moving screens and I guarantee you he's shooting at least 50% for the season from 3.

lefty
06-14-2019, 01:45 AM
he's too young to remember. Mfs aren't even old enough to remember Ray Allen in his prime in Seattle and Milwaukee or Reggie with the Pacers. Give Dale Ellis 10 open 3's a game off moving screens and I guarantee you he's shooting at least 50% for the season from 3.

Spurtacular
06-14-2019, 02:29 AM
Klay may be a better shooter than curry. From what I've seen Klay doesn't need 4 or 5 moving screens on a play to hit a shot

On the line open and his feet set, the three is practically like a FT for Klay. I honestly thought it was more important to stay attached to Klay and let Curry chuck with a hand in his face as much as possible.

Spurtacular
06-14-2019, 02:30 AM
he's too young to remember. Mfs aren't even old enough to remember Ray Allen in his prime in Seattle and Milwaukee or Reggie with the Pacers. Give Dale Ellis 10 open 3's a game off moving screens and I guarantee you he's shooting at least 50% for the season from 3.

And the refs weren't calling any fouls on the arc that weren't painfully obvious either.

Sir Johnny
06-14-2019, 02:33 AM
Seen them all since the days of Wilt and Russell and can talk the All Negro leagues. There is no argument, no debate of any kind if you know basketball then you know Curry is without question the best shooter in history. And only know nothings wouldn't see this.

The guy has changed the way the game is played now.


Is Curry the best shooter of all time?
How Stephen Curry became the best shooter the NBA has ever seen. ... Curry doesn't possess the other-worldly athleticism of LeBron James or all-around skill set of Kevin Durant, but his shooting has changed the NBA forever. The two-time MVP and three-time champion is on pace to shatter the all-time record for made threes.Jun 9, 2018

Spurtacular
06-14-2019, 02:51 AM
The guy has changed the way the game is played now.


The rules committee changed the way the game is played, son.

lefty
06-14-2019, 10:59 AM
The rules committee changed the way the game is played, son.

This

If Abdul Rauf played today instead of Curry they would have said the same shit