The failure to foul at 90-86 with 27 seconds left.

[MultiTroll]

Instead let the shot clock run out, get the rebound with 4 seconds left and not even get a shot off?

What in the hell was that?
Was that by Pops orders? He walked well onto the court and was waving his arm but still no one fouled. They weren't even going for a strip / steal.

Farkin A just concede the game down 4 with 27 to go.

[Kori Ellis]

Pop was screaming for them to foul. LMA and Patty somehow refused.

[ca®lo]

Heads gonna roll. I had no idea what that play was all about.

[CapitalEmm]

:pop: “Experience”

[ginobilized]

Pop, Becky and Ime were yelling at the team. Weirdest damn thing.

No way the coaches were telling them not to foul. WTF?

[baseline bum]

Nice competitive spirit there Softridge and Fifty. If only James, Wade, and Bosh would have gone to that brilliant move down five with 28 seconds left.

[Mugen]

I just think it'd be hilarious if this was Pop's last game and it ended with his team quitting on him :lmao

[apalisoc_9]

Pop was screaming for them to foul. LMA and Patty somehow refused.

Can someone clip that last possession. I wanna see LMA body language. The way Pop was screaming at him and Forbes yelling at him..It almost felt like he was intentionally trying to ignore them :lol

[Xx_SpursNation_xX]

Did patty have 5 fouls, is that why he didn't foul?

[Joseph Kony]

hopefully this pushes the FO to realize these dudes are fucking scrub ass losers and they ship them out. any player with a brain would know to foul, it's like they just quit

[TheGreatYacht]

Crater face played Mills at the end of all of the games because of his experience and he's the stupidest motherfucker on the team. If that's not out of touch....

[apalisoc_9]

Mills had a clear opportunity to foul to. :lol

Im starting to believe no one wants to do anything in this team unless instrcuted by Pop. the micromanaging probably got into their heads.

[marinoman]

I was yelling at the tv FOUL! FOUL!!! Unreal stupidity
I’m really ashamed of my sig/av btw

[Play Boban]

Did patty have 5 fouls, is that why he didn't foul?
Yes, he did. But that’s no excuse.

[Spurtacular]

Pop was screaming for them to foul. LMA and Patty somehow refused.

Pop didn't start saying anything 'til 17 seconds. But the rest of the team should be much smarter. This is basic math, tbh.

[Kori Ellis]

Can someone clip that last possession. I wanna see LMA body language. The way Pop was screaming at him and Forbes yelling at him..It almost felt like he was intentionally trying to ignore them :lol

We rewatched the end five times already, and that's what I thought as well.

[Rito3d30]

the players refused the coach's command........WTF........

[FkLA]

This will get a lot of attention but honestly it doesn't even matter. The game was over already. We all know they weren't coming back. I was incredulous more than anything. Not even mad when it happened though, just felt a sense of relief that this shit show was over.

[baseline bum]

Aldridge has to go. If he gives such little shit about the playoffs to not foul and instead just take the L in a Game 7 then fuck him.

[jehawk81]

Pop was screaming for them to foul. LMA and Patty somehow refused.

Dat Portland connection

[DAF86]

They are lifetime losers for a reason. They lack emotional intelligence to perform in critical situations.

[jehawk81]

Pop was screaming for them to foul. LMA and Patty somehow refused.

Dat Portland connection

[Kori Ellis]

He was out on the court, but I'm not sure that's what he was screaming. Nobody on the Spurs were reacting.

I believe Pop, Becky, Ime and everyone else was screaming for them to foul. Maybe LMA/Patty thought they were only down 2?? I'm not sure what else could be the explanation.

[lefty]

Pop was screaming for them to foul. LMA and Patty somehow refused.

This

Pop was screaming his lungs out and LMA looked like Andrew Bynum in NBA Live

[Wu36]

Crater face played Mills at the end of all of the games because of his experience and he's the stupidest motherfucker on the team. If that's not out of touch....
I guess that what happens when you have depressed player making 30 mil..and a diva who’s vigina lacks teeth.

[jehawk81]

Crater face played Mills at the end of all of the games because of his experience and he's the stupidest motherfucker on the team. If that's not out of touch....

Wombat knew to foul, he also knew he had 5 fouls, tbh

[daslicer]

This will get a lot of attention but honestly it doesn't even matter. The game was over already. We all know they weren't coming back. I was incredulous more than anything. Not even mad when it happened though, just felt a sense of relief that this shit show was over.

Surprisingly I felt the same way. I just laughed at the end when they didn't foul.

[HarlemHeat37]

Pop shouldn't even have to order them to foul, Mills(him in particular because his experience and culture is the only reason he has a prominent role) should have already known that on his own..pathetic .

[apalisoc_9]

We rewatched the end five times already, and that's what I thought as well.

https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1122359551049785344

[baseline bum]

What a bitter loss. I'd be fine with them getting beat by a better Denver team but to just say fuck it Cancun with 27 seconds left down only 4 is unforgivable. Blow the fucking team up after that.

[Xx_SpursNation_xX]

I believe Pop, Becky, Ime and everyone else was screaming for them to foul. Maybe LMA/Patty thought they were only down 2?? I'm not sure what else could be the explanation.
The whole damn bench is screaming at you to foul, it makes no sense for either of them to refuse. I'm thinking they didn't hear but how does patty not see pop at half court screaming other than he has 5 fouls and doesn't want to leave the game.

[Ron Swanson]

I don't want to hear excuses like "We couldn't hear Pop telling us to foul." If you don't have the awareness to foul in a situation like that, then you have no business playing professional basketball. That was a goddamn clusterfuck.

[timtonymanu]

Lol Mills with that precious culture and corporate knowledge.

I'm sure all will be forgiven with these soft fucks when he buys them all coffee after the game.

[Kori Ellis]

The whole damn bench is screaming at you to foul, it makes no sense for either of them to refuse. I'm thinking they didn't hear but how does patty not see pop at half court screaming other than he has 5 fouls and doesn't want to leave the game.

Even if they couldn't hear, they should know to foul down 4 with 27 seconds left. They have played basketball their whole lives. I have to think that they didn't know they were down 4 for some reason. Either way, they are idiots.

[RC_Drunkford]

They should've fouled as soon as Jokić got the rebound, not when Pop started to yell. Mills with all that corporate knowledge obviously doesn't know when to foul either

[paperboy77]

Everyone in my family could care less about basketball. I'm the lone ranger almost all of the time. But today everyone watched and realized we are a stupid team as a whole. A weak team. And a team that ultimately overachieved. Still they pushed the Denver fags to 7 games and besides some stupid play had a shot at the game. So long 2019 Spurs iteration. See you next year.

[Play Boban]

Must’ve been due to hypoxia. I thought you only got that at 26,000 feet but for the Spurs they must get it at 5,200 feet. What a joke.

[FkLA]

Aldridge has to go. If he gives such little shit about the playoffs to not foul and instead just take the L in a Game 7 then fuck him.

Let's not ignore Wombat. Murray had the ball for like 5 seconds before he passed it off to Doughcik. My guess is, the fact that Wombat didn't foul threw LMA's dumbass off and made him think it was a no foul situation. Forbes saw the coaches giving the instructions and even yelled at LMA to foul, but he could've just ran off his man and committed the foul himself as well. Can't be too mad at him though since he was one of the few guys that didn't shrivel up today.

[BWS-1994]

They’re calling this the Spurs’ “JR Smith” moment... *facepalm*

[paperboy77]

Wombat proved in THIS game to be a better choice than White. One more thing.. Go Blazers.

[marinoman]

This will get a lot of attention but honestly it doesn't even matter. The game was over already. We all know they weren't coming back. I was incredulous more than anything. Not even mad when it happened though, just felt a sense of relief that this shit show was over.
95% yes but not 100. The 2013 finals game 6 was 5 with 29 secs. The nick Anderson finals... those are off the top of my head, there are others especially regular season

[baseline bum]

Let's not ignore Wombat. Murray had the ball for like 5 seconds before he passed it off to Doughcik. My guess is, the fact that Wombat didn't foul threw LMA's dumbass off and made him think it was a no foul situation. Forbes saw the coaches giving the instructions and even yelled at LMA to foul, but he could've just ran off his man and committed the foul himself as well. Can't be too mad at him though since he was one of the few guys that didn't shrivel up today.

Already long since given up on Fifty

[ducks]

Why not use a hand signal to foul not voice
You know pop this is the 21 century

[FkLA]

https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1122359551049785344

I mean Pop gave up too. Once Wombat came over and gave that half ass swipe at Jokic, Pop had Wombat right in front him. Could've easily yelled at him to foul.

[ducks]

Patty has to go

[HarlemHeat37]

Why do people(not just here, but on Twitter) keep talking about the loud crowd in Denver? How do professionals with a ton of experience not realize that they need to foul in that scenario?:lmao

What the fuck are you paying Mills that much money for if he can't read one of the easiest basketball scenarios?

[MannyIsGod]

What a bitter loss. I'd be fine with them getting beat by a better Denver team but to just say fuck it Cancun with 27 seconds left down only 4 is unforgivable. Blow the fucking team up after that.

I think this is where I'm at right now. I don't want to blow up the whole team though. I actually like what we have as far as the youth goes.


I will say Forbes was fucking awesome tonight. What a turnaround for that guy.

[Mugen]

:lmao How does that stupid fuck Patty not know how to foul there? It's not like there were 5-10 seconds left. They had like 25+ seconds to look at the scoreboard and do the fucking math.

How is that stupid fuck closing the game out? This shit is hilarious tbh...

[FkLA]

Wombat proved in THIS game to be a better choice than White. One more thing.. Go Blazers.

Yeah, he really did a lot those last 16 straight minutes he played. Let's go through all the great things he did:











95% yes but not 100. The 2013 finals game 6 was 5 with 29 secs. The nick Anderson finals... those are off the top of my head, there are others especially regular season

This soft ass team wasn't coming back. Don't make it more painful than what it needs to be with unrealistic what ifs.

[baseline bum]

I think this is where I'm at right now. I don't want to blow up the whole team though. I actually like what we have as far as the youth goes.


I will say Forbes was fucking awesome tonight. What a turnaround for that guy.

Well yeah by blow up the team I mean get rid of the vets. That was some disgraceful shit.

[baseline bum]

They’re calling this the Spurs’ “JR Smith” moment... *facepalm*

Except the Spurs had two JR Smiths on that possession.

[J_Paco]

I guess that what happens when you have depressed player making 30 mil..and a diva who’s vigina lacks teeth.


What a bitter loss. I'd be fine with them getting beat by a better Denver team but to just say fuck it Cancun with 27 seconds left down only 4 is unforgivable. Blow the fucking team up after that.


Stop being so melodramatic. Look at the clip above your post. LaMarcus had his back turned and didn't hear Pop to foul.

Crazy shit happens. Gotta let the loss go, move on to the offseason and NBA draft.

Team played its ass off but it wasn't enough, sadly.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

We werent gonna win anyways. Yes it is frustrating as hell to watch the season melt away. But not scoring down 4 was the dagger.

[J_Paco]

I think this is where I'm at right now. I don't want to blow up the whole team though. I actually like what we have as far as the youth goes.


I will say Forbes was fucking awesome tonight. What a turnaround for that guy.

Patty and/or Belinelli need to go. I seriously doubt Pop would be willing to move Patty if the end of game 7 (and his rotation choices) is any indication.

[dbreiden83080]

Would not have mattered at all. Overall it was a very good series. I’m proud of the way they played. They had plenty of reasons to pack it in tonight. They didn’t do it and fought back.. So great job.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Stop being so melodramatic. Look at the clip above your post. LaMarcus had his back turned and didn't hear Pop to foul.

Crazy shit happens. Gotta let the loss go, move on to the offseason and NBA draft.

Team played its ass off but it wasn't enough, sadly.

This forum is full of clueless morons. Of course LA didnt ignore Pop. The players were low IQ to not know to foul on their own. Im proud of the effort. Disappointed with the shooting. We werent winning it this year anyways. Wouldve gotten shredded by Golden State for the 3rd straight year.

[Philthemage]

Hats off to Patty what he gave during the championship run, but he has proven to be a liability on the court the last two years. The whole game tonight he couldn't defend the pick and roll, and that brain fart at the end is inexcusable. He needs to go.

[dbreiden83080]

It’s been done before but at the end of the day we all understand how hard it is to win a game 7 on the road. It’s one of the most difficult things to do in sports.

[DAF86]

Aldridge: "yeah... I just didn't foul, that's it" :lmao:lmao:lmao

[baseline bum]

Would not have mattered at all. Overall it was a very good series. I’m proud of the way they played. They had plenty of reasons to pack it in tonight. They didn’t do it and fought back.. So great job.

DeRozan getting blocked with 27 seconds left wasn't a good reason to pack it in.

[dbreiden83080]

DeRozan getting blocked with 27 seconds left wasn't a good reason to pack it in.

They are down 4 with under 30 seconds to play and don’t have possession. They were not winning the game.

[polandprzem]

lol even Forbes was screaming and showing to foul

thn they quit and nobody took timeout ...

[WallyTiger]

They’re calling this the Spurs’ “JR Smith” moment... *facepalm*
;)

[lefty]

LMA was saving his foul for game 8

[lefty]

1122368817840164865

[anon]

Aldridge: "yeah... I just didn't foul, that's it" :lmao:lmao:lmao
:rollin
Read it in his permadejected loser voice too.

[spurs10]

Denver was gifted the game. They are very fortunate.

[DAF86]

:rollin
Read it in his permadejected loser voice too.

That's exactly how he delivered it, tbh. :lol

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

:pop: “Experience”

:lmao best comment honestly

[baseline bum]

They are down 4 with under 30 seconds to play and don’t have possession. They were not winning the game.

You don't know that. Denver was choking that quarter and could have started missing free throws or turned the ball over on inbounds passes. Spurs could hit some lucky threes. Unlikely to win there but that doesn't mean you just give up.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

I just think it'd be hilarious if this was Pop's last game and it ended with his team quitting on him :lmao

:lmao

Same, did you see LMA's response? He said he knew time left on clock and just didn't foul and that's all that needs to be said lol

[ElNono]

The 3 guys on the back are yelling to LMA and Patty to foul. Patty even looks at Pop. You gotta be more awake on a game 7, coach shouldn’t even have to tell you to foul

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Pop didn't start saying anything 'til 17 seconds. But the rest of the team should be much smarter. This is basic math, tbh.

[timvp]

Pop wasn't telling them to foul. The motion he was giving was for Aldridge to pressure the ballhandler. Intentional foul is a different motion.

But, yeah, OBVIOUSLY you have to foul there. I can understand Pop or a player not understanding the situation but not one got damn person on the coaching staff was motioning for an intentional foul? Not one player knew the Spurs needed to foul? Of course, Patty Mills -- the worst point guard in terms of time management I've ever seen in my life -- was totally clueless per usual but how did nobody know that the Spurs needed to foul?

:pcotss

[ElNono]

BTW, Pop had a word with Forbes when the game ended about not going out there and fouling

[Mugen]

Pop wasn't telling them to foul. The motion he was giving was for Aldridge to pressure the ballhandler. Intentional foul is a different motion.

But, yeah, OBVIOUSLY you have to foul there. I can understand Pop or a player not understanding the situation but not one got damn person on the coaching staff was motioning for an intentional foul? Not one player knew the Spurs needed to foul? Of course, Patty Mills -- the worst point guard in terms of time management I've ever seen in my life -- was totally clueless per usual but how did nobody know that the Spurs needed to foul?

:pcotss

Damn, this might be the first time I've ever seen you criticize Patty without giving him an out or excuse tbh...

[Kori Ellis]

BTW, Pop had a word with Forbes when the game ended about not going out there and fouling

What's weird about that is Bryn was one of the few people who seemed to know they needed to foul. LMA didn't care enough to foul. Patty wasn't aware enough to foul.

[Jeremy]

The 3 guys on the back are yelling to LMA and Patty to foul. Patty even looks at Pop. You gotta be more awake on a game 7, coach shouldn’t even have to tell you to foul

Why didn't one of those 3 just run out of position and foul?

[Spurtacular]

They are down 4 with under 30 seconds to play and don’t have possession. They were not winning the game.

What if Denver misses a FT or two? Yea, obviously the odds weren't on their sides. Plenty of teams have came back from four with under 30 seconds left.

[ElNono]

What's weird about that is Bryn was one of the few people who seemed to know they needed to foul. LMA didn't care enough to foul. Patty wasn't aware enough to foul.

I think the lesson there was ‘leave your man’ and go foul. Wake them up. Probably just a teachable moment.

[baseline bum]

What's weird about that is Bryn was one of the few people who seemed to know they needed to foul. LMA didn't care enough to foul. Patty wasn't aware enough to foul.

Fifty thought his sixth foul was too valuable to give up when it was only the last possession of Game 7.

[Spurtacular]

What's weird about that is Bryn was one of the few people who seemed to know they needed to foul. LMA didn't care enough to foul. Patty wasn't aware enough to foul.

His pointing seemed rather indiscriminate; like he wasn't sure what was going on, tbh. It's not like he was taking a few steps towards LMA to make sure he could be heard. I think he was as clueless as the rest of them.

[Xx_SpursNation_xX]

Pop wasn't telling them to foul. The motion he was giving was for Aldridge to pressure the ballhandler. Intentional foul is a different motion.

But, yeah, OBVIOUSLY you have to foul there. I can understand Pop or a player not understanding the situation but not one got damn person on the coaching staff was motioning for an intentional foul? Not one player knew the Spurs needed to foul? Of course, Patty Mills -- the worst point guard in terms of time management I've ever seen in my life -- was totally clueless per usual but how did nobody know that the Spurs needed to foul?

:pcotss
Pop was asked in his presser what happened he said he asked for a foul and it didn't happen.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

What if Denver misses a FT or two? Yea, obviously the odds weren't on their sides. Plenty of teams have came back from four with under 30 seconds left.

Odds of a comeback were like 0.1%. But that being said, i agree with you, you take the chance, you dont throw in the towel in Game 7. Unfortunately, the low bball IQ of the team reared its head.

However, game was lost on the floater and then miss by Derozan. The final sequence was simply a distractor for the reactionary posters to point to.

[timvp]

Pop was asked in his presser what happened he said he asked for a foul and it didn't happen.

If that's the case, should have given the ol' hand signal to foul instead of trying to yell over 20,000 fans.

[DC23]

LMA had a Jr Smith moment. He had no understanding of the game situation. He was out there playing like 2 minutes were left. He had Pop, 2 assistant coaches, Forbes, and Gay yelling at him. I've honestly never seen anything like it before. Not sure what Patty was doing either...

[Kori Ellis]

LMA had a Jr Smith moment. He had no understanding of the game situation. He was out there playing like 2 minutes were left. He had Pop, 2 assistant coaches, Forbes, and Gay yelling at him. I've honestly never seen anything like it before. Not sure what Patty was doing either...

I think he was just trying to get to vacation. He literally said in the postgame that he knew the clock situation and that he just "didn't foul and that's it."

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Pop was asked in his presser what happened he said he asked for a foul and it didn't happen.

Maybe Pop is lying, who knows

[ElNono]

If that's the case, should have given the ol' hand signal to foul instead of trying to yell over 20,000 fans.

You can tell they wanted to foul because Becky, Ime and Luigi where all telling Bryn to foul from the sidelines, and Bryn kept pointing at LMA... the whole thing was bizarro low IQ

[baseline bum]

You can tell they wanted to foul because Becky, Ime and Luigi where all telling Bryn to foul from the sidelines, and Bryn kept pointing at LMA... the whole thing was bizarro low IQ

The whole thing was Aldridge saying fuck the Spurs. Time to expect another summer trade request.

[Keepin' it real]

LMA got his payback for the game 4 benching in fine fashion.

[DAF86]

Pop wasn't telling them to foul. The motion he was giving was for Aldridge to pressure the ballhandler. Intentional foul is a different motion.

But, yeah, OBVIOUSLY you have to foul there. I can understand Pop or a player not understanding the situation but not one got damn person on the coaching staff was motioning for an intentional foul? Not one player knew the Spurs needed to foul? Of course, Patty Mills -- the worst point guard in terms of time management I've ever seen in my life -- was totally clueless per usual but how did nobody know that the Spurs needed to foul?

:pcotss

Dude, Pop was, at best, a D on this series. I'm firmly on the boat that thinks we would have won this series if not for Pop treating game 2 as a pre-season game, tbh.

[spurs10]

Denver was gifted the game. They are very fortunate. I don't mean the 'not fouling,' I mean our choke in the first half. Denver played poorly, but compared to a complete choke it was enough.

[UZER]

LMA got his payback for the game 4 benching in fine fashion.

:lol

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I think he was just trying to get to vacation. He literally said in the postgame that he knew the clock situation and that he just "didn't foul and that's it."

Naw, I think he just fucked up with a low IQ play. He was getting to vacation either way, we werent gonna comeback and win at that point. LA isnt gonna make himself look like a dumbass like JR on national TV in an interview.

Pop said he told Mills to foul and when Mills followed Murray around Jokic everyone stopped yelling to foul because they thought Mill got the message but then Mills didnt foul.

Remember, the obvious answer is usually the answer. Not some bizarro veiled ulterior motive from LA. I swear some of yall have the craziest imaginations :lol

[timvp]

The whole thing was Aldridge saying fuck the Spurs. Time to expect another summer trade request.

I mean, unless Aldridge somehow also convinced Mills not to foul, I'll have to disagree. Mills literally grabbed Jokic ... only to spin around him to run to his man.

[spurs10]

I think he was just trying to get to vacation. He literally said in the postgame that he knew the clock situation and that he just "didn't foul and that's it." Yes this was mind boggling. Even if you want to leave.

[Kori Ellis]

Naw, I think he just fucked up with a low IQ play. He was getting to vacation either way, we werent gonna comeback and win at that point. LA isnt gonna make himself look like a dumbass like JR on national TV in an interview.

Pop said he told Mills to foul and when Mills followed Murray around Jokic everyone stopped yelling to foul because they thought Mill got the message but then Mills didnt foul.

Remember, the obvious answer is usually the answer. Not some bizarro veiled ulterior motive from LA. I swear some of yall have the craziest imaginations :lol

Saying he wanted to get to vacation was a joke. Sorry for the lack of emoticon. His head wasn't in the play. That's all I meant.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Saying he wanted to get to vacation was a joke. Sorry for the lack of emoticon. His head wasn't in the play. That's all I meant.

Oh, I agree completely. :lol

[spurs10]

I mean, unless Aldridge somehow also convinced Mills not to foul, I'll have to disagree. Mills literally grabbed Jokic ... only to spin around him to run to his man. I'm not sure I understand, it looks like Patty tried to foul and LMA intentionally did not.

[therealtruth]

I am not sure how much fouling would have changed the outcome. It was a two possesion game already so you definitely want to try to get a turnover/steal before fouling. Yet I think everyone would agree letting them run out the clock makes no sense to have any chance of winning.

[spurs10]

There was plenty of time to foul. Did LMA just decide not to listen to Pop and everybody else?

[JeffDuncan]

Patty was the one closest to a man. It was on him to foul. Also, the wombat is the team leader, appointed so by Pop.

LMA was a long way from his man. But Patty was right there.

[ElNono]

I don’t want to sound overly dramatic, but to me, that last play was basically what happens when players just tune out.

We’ve seen it in a lot of teams over the years, even laughed about it, and it didn’t happen to us before because we always had relatively smart players. That’s just gone now, and it’s opens larger questions: players go? coaching staff goes? is management paying attention?

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

:lol damn Lamarcus Aldridge really isn't gonna wanna read the comments on his Instagram right now

:lmao people are flat out calling him dumb and stupid

I wish Pop had an IG

[smaka]

Aldridge didn't want to foul to get a chance to play against his buddy Lillard. Just trade his ass to Portland for a bag of chips and that's it.

[monty4329]

Why not use a hand signal to foul not voice
You know pop this is the 21 century

They have a hand signal: that kind of "cut" with he open hand palm down.

[monty4329]

I am not sure how much fouling would have changed the outcome. It was a two possesion game already so you definitely want to try to get a turnover/steal before fouling. Yet I think everyone would agree letting them run out the clock makes no sense to have any chance of winning.

In fact, usual standard practice in the NBA is go for the soft steal, then hard steal, then foul if nothing happens. It all takes about 8-10 seconds.

But yes, the game was already lost mentally.

[Jeremy]

Pop should have ran out onto the court even farther and gotten a technical just to stop play, after they ignored him.

[paperboy77]

[QUOTE=FkLA;9791460]Yeah, he really did a lot those last 16 straight minutes he played. Let's go through all the great things he did:


You’re right in thinking Mills sucks but White was terrible and showed his inexperience. I mean the misses a shot and he’s over there having conversations with himself. Definitely too big a moment for him at this time.

Still we overachieved but could have won this series a d the next. Our big 2 really let us down. Especially DDR.

[superbigtime]

spurs lost a very winnable game

[ceperez]

I don’t want to sound overly dramatic, but to me, that last play was basically what happens when players just tune out.

We’ve seen it in a lot of teams over the years, even laughed about it, and it didn’t happen to us before because we always had relatively smart players. That’s just gone now, and it’s opens larger questions: players go? coaching staff goes? is management paying attention?

I disagree. This a problem of players to caught up in the moment to think correctly!!!

The damn problem was there was no timeout after Murray hit his shot. DeRozan forced a plays and got blocked. The players had no instructions on what next to do.

Normally this lack of timeout was an advantage for Spurs who has a lot of playoff experiemce. Unfortunately, this team does not have Manu, Parker, Green and Kawhi. So there was nobody on the floor good make a good decision to foul.

A timeout should have been called and a play for a quick two or 3 pt shot should have been made with a quick foul after.

Yet, what does DeRozan do? Get blocked... yet when he rebounds, he doesn't call a timeout!!

[Russ]

Pop should have ran out onto the court even farther and gotten a technical just to stop play, after they ignored him.

No need to do that . . .


Why not use a hand signal to foul not voice
You know pop this is the 21 century

Yep, no matter how loud the crowd, it makes no difference.

You simply take your right wrist and hack down on your left wrist with it.

It's the universal basketball gesture for "foul now" . . .

[Arcadian]

This is why I didn't like everyone in the media favoring the Spurs for their "experience." Experience is overrated. The rules don't magically change in game 7. The better (more consistent) team will win even if they have less experience, and even the most experienced team can fuck up something basic.

Regarding the last play - you can foul off the ball, right? It's not like you can only foul the ball handler. So ANY Spur could have fouled any Nugget. Just grab the guy nearest to you.

[th3answ3r]

This is why I didn't like everyone in the media favoring the Spurs for their "experience." Experience is overrated. The rules don't magically change in game 7. The better (more consistent) team will win even if they have less experience, and even the most experienced team can fuck up something basic.

Regarding the last play - you can foul off the ball, right? It's not like you can only foul the ball handler. So ANY Spur could have fouled any Nugget. Just grab the guy nearest to you.

It's free throw and possession for them if you foul off the ball in the last one or two minutes? Think it was the wilt rule where he would run out of bounds to avoid getting fouled off the ball and it looked stupid.

[Arcadian]

It's free throw and possession for them if you foul off the ball in the last one or two minutes? Think it was the wilt rule where he would run out of bounds to avoid getting fouled off the ball and it looked stupid.

Ah ok, forgot about that.

[Rummpd]

I don’t want to sound overly dramatic, but to me, that last play was basically what happens when players just tune out.

We’ve seen it in a lot of teams over the years, even laughed about it, and it didn’t happen to us before because we always had relatively smart players. That’s just gone now, and it’s opens larger questions: players go? coaching staff goes? is management paying attention?

My thoughts exactly I officiate youth and high school games and even they would have fouled then. Absurd and unprofessional and it is on players and coaches.

[FkLA]

You’re right in thinking Mills sucks but White was terrible and showed his inexperience. I mean the misses a shot and he’s over there having conversations with himself. Definitely too big a moment for him at this time.

Still we overachieved but could have won this series a d the next. Our big 2 really let us down. Especially DDR.

WTF is up with the disparate treatment from Pop and his Pop suckers though?

LMA and DD shrunk this game too but they kept playing. Rudy didn't wake up until Game 6 but he kept getting consistent minutes all series. Belli was beyond awful all series yet still saw plenty of action. Wombat shot 20% from the field, 10% from 3 all series long and not only saw consistent minutes but yet for whatever reason had his number called to close at PG in both elimination games.

OTOH White is struggling, and it's like yeah let's just bench him the last 21 minutes of the game. Who cares if he's been the third best player on the team all year long. Let's not show any faith in him, let's not give him a shot to redeem himself or see what he's made of. Yep, it's undoubtedly the right call to not play him no questions asked.

[dbestpro]

On a night when no one could shoot, Bertans was seen throwing paper wads in a trash can at about 8 feet. He made 20 out of 20.

[ceperez]

Mills had a clear opportunity to foul to. :lol

Im starting to believe no one wants to do anything in this team unless instrcuted by Pop. the micromanaging probably got into their heads.

I agree the micormanaging was a problem. That and a free reign for Aldridge and DeRozan to create offense. These are the two worse players to execute anything on the team.

[FkLA]

On a night when no one could shoot, Bertans was seen throwing paper wads in a trash can at about 8 feet. He made 20 out of 20.

He's another guy that always gets the quick leash. Yeah, he was struggling with Millsap and he wasn't hitting much but how is that any different than what Rudy did for the first 5 games or what Wombat+Belli did all series?

[benefactor]

I don't see how any other conclusion can be made other than LMA quitting. Both his actions and his words are pretty damning. He didn't want to go to the next round. He was ready to be on the beach.

[ceperez]

DeRozan and Aldridge have played so many games in the NBA that they don't know the difference between a good play and a bad one!

Bad habits are hard to get rid off.

These two are pathetic for the same and different reasons. Both players don't know how to take advantage of a double team. Both players play piss poor defense. Both players have tunnel vision when they have the ball. The only bright side of DeRozan is he works hard in offense. I can't say the same for Aldridge.

[RD2191]

I think this is deeper than just not fouling. What it basically showed is that none of these players are thinking for themselves. They're terrified of making mistakes and I just don't know how you can play basketball that way. I mean really, does Pop have to let them know how and when they can wipe their ass?

[BackHome]

We have seen it all year that team has terrible in the last two minutes to not being able to pass out of half court or just turning ball over. Pop should have called a time out to let people know what to do this team really does not have a leader

[SASdynasty!]

95% yes but not 100. The 2013 finals game 6 was 5 with 29 secs. The nick Anderson finals... those are off the top of my head, there are others especially regular season
Exactly...it happens all the time tbh.

[TDMVPDPOY]

when it comes to losing, spurs are the best at losing games

whether its the white flag out in the first quarter
or last possession plays stuffups...

[therealtruth]

I think this is deeper than just not fouling. What it basically showed is that none of these players are thinking for themselves. They're terrified of making mistakes and I just don't know how you can play basketball that way. I mean really, does Pop have to let them know how and when they can wipe their ass?

Pop's a control freak and I think that backfires in situations like that where his players can't think for themselves. In contrast, for example PJ would let his players figure things out so they were better prepared for different situations. Also in the past the big 3 used to provide the leadership. Pop's defacto leader Mills should have known what to do and even had a chance to foul Jokic w/o leaving his man and still didn't. The other guys like DDR couldn't leave their men to foul Jokic or they would given up an open shot. It's just a weird situation that LMA/Mills both couldn't figure it out. LMA I'm guessing was just giving up. But what's the whole purpose of having Mills out there for leadership if he can't figure it out.

[therealtruth]

Exactly...it happens all the time tbh.

I wouldn't say it happen all the time. Those examples Nick Anderson/game 6 2013 show just how improbable it is. How many things had to go wrong? Nick Anderson missing 4 free throws. Spurs splitting free throws and not securing the offensive rebound twice. Either way the team that won in those cases hadn't mentally checked out of the game like the Spurs seemed to have. They still believed they could win and still had to hit big shots.

[ZeusWillJudge]

After watching the replay, Pop was so far out on the floor I'm shocked he didn't get a Technical called. Maybe that's even what he wanted - at least it would have stopped play. There's no way any of that can be laid on Pop, except for having stupid players on the roster.


Did patty have 5 fouls, is that why he didn't foul?

It doesn't make a rats ass how may fouls Patty had. You have to foul. If he doomed any chance of winning that game because he didn't want to foul out, he ought to be run out of town. Personally, I don't think he thought it through that far. They jus' stupid.

[Sanjohnny2018]

The odds before the game were nuggets -6. The last possession was very interesting to see. Just saying.

[Sanjohnny2018]

I’m sure they didn’t hear pop or bill land

[HankChinaski]

There has been a ton of times in the regular season where pop has let the players try and figure things out on their own. Same posters bitch that he doesn't call the time out or direct the team, then games like this we hear he is a control freak an the players can't think for themselves.

The personnel has bbiq. They just are not at the level of players that played in years past. Experience, eh I don't know how much that factored in. Plenty of examples for the younger players to learn from with the loss in this series.

For the vets, well I don't consider people in their 30s to be set in their ways. That is still pretty F'ing young to be set in your ways

I dislike hearing how he is a season old vet at 35 is basically calling a spade a spade.

BUT you should be able to tell from looking at players day in a out who are competitors and don't like to lose.

Manu with his mistakes was a hell of a competitive player.

I like Aldridge and DeMar. They offer tangibles this team has been missing. I just don't see them as driven competitive players that try to do everything possible to win.

At any rate, I feel there are some serious decisions to be made going into the off season coinciding with the draft. Hard decisions based with locker room presence, etc.

I am unsure what the front office looks at in regards to this roster with whom they keep an who they are needing to move on from and having a REASONABLE package doesn't gut them any further.

Will be interesting to read up on and pay attention to who they draft and who they look into signing with the limited options with payroll.

[spursistan]

I don’t want to sound overly dramatic, but to me, that last play was basically what happens when players just tune out.

We’ve seen it in a lot of teams over the years, even laughed about it, and it didn’t happen to us before because we always had relatively smart players. That’s just gone now, and it’s opens larger questions: players go? coaching staff goes? is management paying attention?

They cornered the market on low-IQ career losers, what did they expect, tbh? Eventually, that shit becomes infectious.

[weeks]

The odds before the game were nuggets -6. The last possession was very interesting to see. Just saying.
probably this

[KimmyGib]

With 28 seconds left, if they foul early in the clock, make two consecutive 3's while Denver goes 2/4 from the line, that game goes to overtime. That's a decent chance.

[spurraider21]

I mean Pop gave up too. Once Wombat came over and gave that half ass swipe at Jokic, Pop had Wombat right in front him. Could've easily yelled at him to foul.
the fuck are you talking about. pop DID yell at patty right after the swipe when patty was right in front of him. but you cant foul a guy off the ball

[spurraider21]

pop made a lot of questionable decisions all series but i cant believe he's the one getting heat for not fouling there :lol... even timvp blamed him for "wrong hand signals", just look at the replay

[RC_Drunkford]

team has done it earlier in the season. They should know


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqIO6NZtmCc