Kellerman : Kawhi is more clutch than Kobe

[lefty]

Let’s discuss

[Bynumite]

Kiwi could surpass Jordan for all i care, as long as he doesn't do it in a black and silver uni ;)

[Arcadian]

I mean, yeah.

[Dirks_Finale]

Better shot selection and FG % in clutch situations. But he doesn't really have Mamba mentality. So IDK.

[Bynumite]

I mean he did carry TOSB Jim to his 5th ring. So he gets major props for that.

[Arcadian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMfFmPbsYPI

[DC23]

Better shot selection and FG % in clutch situations. But he doesn't really have Mamba mentality. So IDK.
I think he does. It's just more internalized.

[140]

Water is wet, golf is a game, fatball is boring, etc etc

[slick'81]

Dudes putting up numbers Lebrun or mj couldnt touch

[Laker_1995]

Prolly is. I love kawahi idc lol

[spurraider21]

the fuck is mamba mentality? putting your personal glory ahead of the interests of your team?

this is mamba mentality


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSGmlgfj4XU

[ambchang]

Kellerman also said he thinks a Bugatti is better than a corolla.

[lefty]

Water is wet, golf is a game, fatball is boring, etc etc

[Proxy]

:lol todays nba

[Dirks_Finale]

Killer instinct. There is something to be said for those who not only take the last shot, but could care less about the criticism that comes with missing it. Regardless of Kobe's mishaps in clutch situations, I want my best player taking most of the shots in end game situations, and he can not be lacking in confidence.

And that's why poll after poll in his era amongst GM's say that Kobe is the best guy to take those shots.


the fuck is mamba mentality? putting your personal glory ahead of the interests of your team?

this is mamba mentality


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSGmlgfj4XU

[spurraider21]

Killer instinct. There is something to be said for those who not only take the last shot, but could care less about the criticism that comes with missing it. Regardless of Kobe's mishaps in clutch situations, I want my best player taking most of the shots in end game situations, and he can not be lacking in confidence.

And that's why poll after poll in his era amongst GM's say that Kobe is the best guy to take those shots.
he also should not be lacking in accuracy. regardless of GM polls, kobe's game winners numbers were below league average

kawhi has taken and made several game winners. he doesnt lack confidence... so not sure what you think he's missing

[phxspurfan]

Killer instinct. There is something to be said for those who not only take the last shot, but could care less about the criticism that comes with missing it. Regardless of Kobe's mishaps in clutch situations, I want my best player taking most of the shots in end game situations, and he can not be lacking in confidence.

And that's why poll after poll in his era amongst GM's say that Kobe is the best guy to take those shots.

It's not even wanting to take the last shot and not caring about the criticism, it's wanting to kill, absolutely mame and destroy the enemy. Something only guys like MJ had. Kobe had it, LeBroom definitely had it at times but not all the time.

[FkLA]

WTF makes y'all think Nephew doesn't have a killer mentality? Just because he doesn't do a corny ass Kirby scowl doesn't mean he doesn't want blood. I hate the faggot but he has it.

[Rummpd]

I dislike Kobe but despise the quitter that is KL. Go Sixers. Kobe never would have quit.

[Rummpd]

he also should not be lacking in accuracy. regardless of GM polls, kobe's game winners numbers were below league average

kawhi has taken and made several game winners. he doesnt lack confidence... so not sure what you think he's missing

Manu was better in the clutch - look it up

[HarlemHeat37]

I dislike Kobe but despise the quitter that is KL. Go Sixers. Kobe never would have quit.

:lol what? Kobe quit on his team, as well..

[LkrFan]

Kiwi could surpass Jordan for all i care, as long as he doesn't do it in a black and silver uni ;)

This. ALL of this shiiiiiiiiiiiiit! :lmao

[LkrFan]

Let’s discuss

And -200 points for bragging about your ex :lol

[LkrFan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMfFmPbsYPI

I'm gonna politely drop this right here:
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Real NBA players know. Don't be listening to mainstream media and jealous farmers with fatass girlfriends :lol

[FkLA]

Noone overrates Kirby more than young players that grew up idolizing him, tbh.

[therealtruth]

I never got the Kobe to Jordan comparisons. Jordan took much better shots and made half or more of them. Kobe was a bricklayer that figured if you shoot enough you will make some.

[LkrFan]

Noone overrates Kirby more than young players that grew up idolizing him, tbh.

So Kobe's generation overrated MJ? Is that how this works? :lol

[LkrFan]

I never got the Kobe to Jordan comparisons. Jordan took much better shots and made half or more of them. Kobe was a bricklayer that figured if you shoot enough you will make some.

This shit again? Kobe's teammates (the likes of Chris Mihm, Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, Puke Walton, etc :lol) ROUTINELY gave the ball to him with 2-3 seconds left on the clock. Sometimes he made them, sometimes not. But I'd say Kobe made more difficult shots than most legends, including Jordan. He didn't GAF about his percentages either. :lol

[LkrFan]

I mean, yeah.

You farmers giving credence to a boxing analyst with these kinds of takes:

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:lol

[Bynumite]

And then there's his Tom Brady takes :lol The guy will say anything for shock value. He's Skip's replacement after all.

[hater]

Keller Wang? Is that the retard that used to be a mediocre boxing announcer?

Yeahhe knows a lot about basketball :lol

[FkLA]

Kellerman obviously did do it for shock value and not because he's a great basketball mind. He did it to fire up all the retards who will think it's blasphemous because of corny, irrelevant shit like "mamba mentality"...but he's actually right in this case even if he's coming from a place of shock value and not knowledge. Numbers don't lie. No amount of scowls and underbites will change those numbers.

[LkrFan]

Keller Wang? Is that the retard that used to be a mediocre boxing announcer?

Yeahhe knows a lot about basketball :lol

:lmao

[LkrFan]

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[DMC]

Kawhi has retard mentality. He's going to paint by the numbers every single time, and it's going to look the same every single time.

That's when he's not nursing his pussy.

[DMC]

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Oddly they didn't forget about Mike.

[ambchang]

I dislike Kobe but despise the quitter that is KL. Go Sixers. Kobe never would have quit.

Let’s not change history now shall we? 2004, game 7 vs Suns, parking lot, retirement tour. He quit on his team multiple times.

[ambchang]

I'm gonna politely drop this right here:
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Real NBA players know. Don't be listening to mainstream media and jealous farmers with fatass girlfriends :lol

No coincidence ex players are generally horrible GMs and coaches. Now think of he ones who couldn’t even be dumb enough to be one.

[FrostKing]

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"No 3pointer no care"

Today's Kellerman

[LkrFan]

Kawhi has retard mentality. He's going to paint by the numbers every single time, and it's going to look the same every single time.

That's when he's not nursing his pussy.
Still maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!?! :lmao

[Raven]

well considering kobe is, according to most meaningful metrics, among the 3 worst clutch performers of all time, i'd say that's a fair assessment.

[Raven]

"No 3pointer no care"

Today's Kellerman

i find it ironic that most of those are either travel, goaltending or carried ball..

[Raven]

This shit again? Kobe's teammates (the likes of Chris Mihm, Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, Puke Walton, etc :lol) ROUTINELY gave the ball to him with 2-3 seconds left on the clock. Sometimes he made them, sometimes not. But I'd say Kobe made more difficult shots than most legends, including Jordan. He didn't GAF about his percentages either. :lol

yeah i guess that's the appeal.. that the shots he made were difficult. But skill is about making things easy for yourself an minimising luck. Kobe was all about getting lucky an extremely small amount of times and advertising them hard.

[LkrFan]

yeah i guess that's the appeal.. that the shots he made were difficult. But skill is about making things easy for yourself an minimising luck. Kobe was all about getting lucky an extremely small amount of times and advertising them hard.

So lemme see here, Kobe has to pass the ball to his shitty teammates, or be called a ball hog...or the alternative...he passes it, they ineptly fart around for 21 seconds, then pass it to Kobe and expect him to hit every last second shot to bail their sorry asses out? Wow.

I didn't know Kobe controlled what shitty players Cupcake brought in and when he got the ball back from these great teammates, he is expected to make something happen Every. Single. Time? Got it. :tu

[LkrFan]

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Well, Texas is a Red state :lmao

[Chucho]

Kobe is over rated.

He killed the Laker franchise and the best player of the last 20 years can't revive it.

No one has left more in his wake than Kobe.

Pissed off Laker fans mad that the Spurs still winning even after losing a top 5 player and can't even have ONE winning seasons since their RAPIST fucked their zombie corpse of a franchise.

[Brazil]

:lol that's so random... you have probably 50 players more clutch than Kobe.. why isolating Kiwi ? Kawhi is more clutch than Jordan would have been at least contraversional

[apalisoc_9]

Damn this puts kawhi on the spot. This exactly how you build legacies with casuals though


Good for kawhi.

[ambchang]

This shit again? Kobe's teammates (the likes of Chris Mihm, Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, Puke Walton, etc :lol) ROUTINELY gave the ball to him with 2-3 seconds left on the clock. Sometimes he made them, sometimes not. But I'd say Kobe made more difficult shots than most legends, including Jordan. He didn't GAF about his percentages either. :lol

In 2005, the year the Lakers missed the playoffs, Mihm averaged 24.9mpg, Kwame and Parker weren't yet on the team, Walton averaged 12.6mpg.

So quit your crap.

[JohnnyMax]

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[Laker_1995]

If kawahi comes to the lakers Idgaf if he’s better than Kobe I can care less lmao. I’ll buy all y’all niggas a beer if he comes.

[baseline bum]

If kawahi comes to the lakers Idgaf if he’s better than Kobe I can care less lmao. I’ll buy all y’all niggas a beer if he comes.

Buy me a bottle of Everclear if he goes to the Lakers and actually gets you fuckers back in the playoffs.

[TDfan2007]

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What was their definition of clutch time? It changes almost every time depending on the narrative.

But yeah, the Kult of Kobe is hopeless. They only care about PPG, "mamba mentality," and the total number of game winners (of which he only has one in the playoffs iirc).

[DAF86]

Why is this a thread? As if being more clutch of Kobe was some kind of incredible feat. Didn't Kobe shoot like 25% on the clutch or something like that?

[Rummpd]

Search internet debatable Kobe was ever truly clutch

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=571fv5nxwuc


Makes the case

http://www.espn.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/24200/the-truth-about-kobe-bryant-in-crunch-time

[DMC]

Still maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!?! :lmao

You just endured HIV and two Balls. I don't think you need to look anywhere but inward.

[Raven]

So lemme see here, Kobe has to pass the ball to his shitty teammates, or be called a ball hog...or the alternative...he passes it, they ineptly fart around for 21 seconds, then pass it to Kobe and expect him to hit every last second shot to bail their sorry asses out? Wow.

I didn't know Kobe controlled what shitty players Cupcake brought in and when he got the ball back from these great teammates, he is expected to make something happen Every. Single. Time? Got it. :tu

You mean like he didnt control shaq and dwight going away? Or like he didnt control 48.5 eating up all the capspace despite not being any better than ramln sessions at that point?

[LkrFan]

You mean like he didnt control shaq and dwight going away? Or like he didnt control 48.5 eating up all the capspace despite not being any better than ramln sessions at that point?

You don't really understand how things work do you? :lol

[i'm_still_beta]

Kobe is overrated. His clutch stats is horrible. "Mamba mentality", though

[UncleDennis]

WTF makes y'all think Nephew doesn't have a killer mentality? Just because he doesn't do a corny ass Kirby scowl doesn't mean he doesn't want blood. I hate the faggot but he has it.

I know right lol Westbrook has killer instincts because every play he acts like a 'tard. Kawhi comes in and just dominates other top players.

Simmons and Embid, two of the leagues cockiest players are getting humbled by the NBA's version of the terminator, but when he slams the ball on Embid's head instead of doing the cut-throat tant he just raises a fist for a nanosecond so therefore he doesn't have that "killer mentality." Wasn't it JJ Reddic a few years back in some interview that was like players didn't even wanna be in Kawhi's general area on the court, you hardly ever hear players admit shit like that publicly.

[Laker_1995]

I know right lol Westbrook has killer instincts because every play he acts like a 'tard. Kawhi comes in and just dominates other top players.

Simmons and Embid, two of the leagues cockiest players are getting humbled by the NBA's version of the terminator, but when he slams the ball on Embid's head instead of doing the cut-throat tant he just raises a fist for a nanosecond so therefore he doesn't have that "killer mentality." Wasn't it JJ Reddic a few years back in some interview that was like players didn't even wanna be in Kawhi's general area on the court, you hardly ever hear players admit shit like that publicly.


one dunk that always pops up to me is that put back dunk against Miami in 2014 I believe. I believe he did it closing the half. Nigga smashed that shit and jogged back emotionless. Westbrook Simmons or embed would have pouted thier chest like animals. Kawahi brought fear to Lebron at fucking age 22. Kawahi is a damn killer and when he’s fully 100% he’s lethal. I’ll do anything to have my lakers sign him lmao. Huge kawahi fan

[LkrFan]

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:corn:

[LkrFan]

I remember Kool used to post vids of Kobe fucking Jim up too. I also remember him dominating the Admiral-led team when we bent the Spurs over in 2001.

Kobe literally shitted on the 3 best Spurs of all-time! No wonder y'all hate him around these parts! :rollin :lmao :rollin

[Arcadian]

I remember Kool used to post vids of Kobe fucking Jim up too. I also remember him dominating the Admiral-led team when we bent the Spurs over in 2001.

Kobe literally shitted on the 3 best Spurs of all-time! No wonder y'all hate him around these parts! :rollin :lmao :rollin

I didn't know Kobe played against George Gervin.

[Dennis the Menace]

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Kobe was winless in 7 games against Kawhi and averaged less than 18ppg


LOL

[LkrFan]

I didn't know Kobe played against George Gervin.

Jim > Iceman > Admiral > :claw?? :wow

[Arcadian]

Jim > Iceman > Admiral > :claw?? :wow

Admiral > Ice, tbh

[LkrFan]

Admiral > Ice, tbh

Ice didn't defend like :claw. Therefore, it's Jim, Admiral, :claw, then Ice for me.

Make no mistake, if Kobe was born in 1968, he would have shitted on Ice too :lol

[ambchang]

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:corn:

http://bkref.com/tiny/OOBZc

17.7ppg on 39% shooting is torching. :lmao

Facts have no place in Kobeland.

[ambchang]

:lmao 27.9% 3 pt shooting

[ambchang]

:lmao 5 Pts in 26 mins shooting 2/9. Torching :lmao

[Splits]

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:corn:

literally everyone of those "highlights" the Lakers are trailing :lmao Ignacio

Also:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl_WkTiH6-Q

[Kurgan]

http://bkref.com/tiny/OOBZc

17.7ppg on 39% shooting is torching. :lmao

Facts have no place in Kobeland.

:lol Cult of Kobe splicing together a highlight reel to make him look good against Kawhi

Very, very strange as I always remembered Kawhi defending him without breaking a sweat. One of his easiest assignments actually. Rudy Gay, on the other hand, would always torch Kawhi for whatever reason.

[AchillesHeel]

I recall Kobe stretching the anus of my poor Spurs in crunch times from 01-08...

We would be 6/6 in the Finals if Kawhi could make a damn FT in Game 6...

[ambchang]

I recall Kobe stretching the anus of my poor Spurs in crunch times from 01-08...

We would be 6/6 in the Finals if Kawhi could make a damn FT in Game 6...

Kobe had two good game against the spurs in the playoffs and the media killed that to death. The spurs designed the entire defense around shaq and left kobe opened every possession, then people cream themselves when Kobe made wide open shots. Same with fisher.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Cult of Kobe splicing together a highlight reel to make him look good against Kawhi

Very, very strange as I always remembered Kawhi defending him without breaking a sweat. One of his easiest assignments actually. Rudy Gay, on the other hand, would always torch Kawhi for whatever reason.
Kobe is a poor man's Rudy Gay, so it makes sense that the real Rudy would do better against Kawhi, tbh.

[LkrFan]

literally everyone of those "highlights" the Lakers are trailing :lmao Ignacio

Also:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl_WkTiH6-Q

:lol

Kobe has played with the likes of Kwame, Smush, Mihm, etc. Of course they were often trailing. Thanks for pointing that out. -200 points son. :lol

[LkrFan]

Kobe is a poor man's Rudy Gay, so it makes sense that the real Rudy would do better against Kawhi, tbh.

:lmao

[LkrFan]

Kobe had two good game against the spurs in the playoffs and the media killed that to death. The spurs designed the entire defense around shaq and left kobe opened every possession, then people cream themselves when Kobe made wide open shots. Same with fisher.

You disingenuous chink. Shaq averaged 30.4ppg in 2001 playoffs. Kobe? 29.4ppg with 7 boards and 6 dimes. I'm sure Kobe was an afterthought to Pop :rolleyes

Bruce Lee Bowen became a Spur because of Kobe. The Spurs looked at the 2001 tape and went out and got the premiere (but dirtiest) perimeter player in the game to combat Kobe. What premiere low post player did they go get to stop Shaq - Kevin Willis? :lol

[ambchang]

You disingenuous chink. Shaq averaged 30.4ppg in 2001 playoffs. Kobe? 29.4ppg with 7 boards and 6 dimes. I'm sure Kobe was an afterthought to Pop :rolleyes

Bruce Lee Bowen became a Spur because of Kobe. The Spurs looked at the 2001 tape and went out and got the premiere (but dirtiest) perimeter player in the game to combat Kobe. What premiere low post player did they go get to stop Shaq - Kevin Willis? :lol

You act like we don’t have video back in 2001 or something. The spurs were the only team in the league who can put some kind of fight against shaq. The spurs were throwing Robinson with help from duncan and guards from all over to defend shaq. Kobe was singles by antonio Daniels.

[BD24]

Water is wet

[DC23]

Lucky bounce has nothing to do with being clutch imo.

[140]

Lucky bounce has nothing to do with being clutch imo.
You'd be polishing his knob with your tongue if he was in a Spurs jersey :lol

[johnnymoore]

Hella shot.

[LkrFan]

Water is wet

41 points on 39 shots. You know how many points Kobe can score with 39 shots? Hint: 47 got him 81. Shhhhhhh!

[LkrFan]

You'd be polishing his knob with your tongue if he was in a Spurs jersey :lol

:lmao

[Beartrucci]

41 points on 39 shots. You know how many points Kobe can score with 39 shots? Hint: 47 got him 81. Shhhhhhh!

Kawhi shot 41%...obviously not good but not an absolutely horrendous percentage

Definitely better than 6/24

[Clipper Nation]

Lucky bounce has nothing to do with being clutch imo.
:lol This is some serious seething and coping. Kawhi is a legend in the clutch.

[Beartrucci]

Anyone that thinks that shot was pure luck has no concept of a shooter's roll

[LkrFan]

Kawhi shot 41%...obviously not good but not an absolutely horrendous percentage

Definitely better than 6/24
Spur fan defending a Raptor. SMH :lol

[daslicer]

Spur fan defending a Raptor. SMH :lol

:lol Come on they are not spur fans but are #2 fans. I don't think we have many real spur fans left in here. They will also be clipper fans next year.

[Beartrucci]

Spur fan defending a Raptor. SMH :lol

Not a fan of Kawhi the person, just enjoy watching him play. Would always root for Spurs over anyone, but enjoying basketball in general comes first.

[BD24]

41 points on 39 shots. You know how many points Kobe can score with 39 shots? Hint: 47 got him 81. Shhhhhhh!
You don’t want to go down the efficiency route on this one Julio. Fair warning.

[Arcadian]

This is all Laker fans have left in life. Trying to salvage the crumbling legacy of their hero years after he retired and left them in this dumpster fire situation.

[ViceCity86]

You disingenuous chink. Shaq averaged 30.4ppg in 2001 playoffs. Kobe? 29.4ppg with 7 boards and 6 dimes. I'm sure Kobe was an afterthought to Pop :rolleyes

Bruce Lee Bowen became a Spur because of Kobe. The Spurs looked at the 2001 tape and went out and got the premiere (but dirtiest) perimeter player in the game to combat Kobe. What premiere low post player did they go get to stop Shaq - Kevin Willis? :lolCherokee Parks, Amal McCaskill, Mark Bryant, Mengke Banteer, your idol Julio Iglesias.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol The Spurs couldn't just go get someone to stop Shaq because he was unstoppable in his prime. Kobe fans like to talk around that fact.

[Kurgan]

:lol The Spurs couldn't just go get someone to stop Shaq because he was unstoppable in his prime. Kobe fans like to talk around that fact.

2000 Finals:

Shaq: 38 ppg on 61%
Kobe: 15 ppg on 36%

Is this the largest disparity in NBA history between a first option and a second option? Kirby got outplayed by Austin Croshere and we got his cult members arguing that he was on an equal footing with Shaq :lol

[Rummpd]

End discussion: 1 - Kobe most over-rated great NBA player in history, just look at his low PER among greats (25th) https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career.html 2) Leonard is an *@$hole but a far better two way players despite Bryant being Mr. Popularity on NBA defensive teams.

[LkrFan]

Cherokee Parks, Amal McCaskill, Mark Bryant, Mengke Banteer, your idol Julio Iglesias.
:lol

[LkrFan]

You don’t want to go down the efficiency route on this one Julio. Fair warning.

:lol

[LkrFan]

:lol Come on they are not spur fans but are #2 fans. I don't think we have many real spur fans left in here. They will also be clipper fans next year.

:lol

[LkrFan]

:lol The Spurs couldn't just go get someone to stop Shaq because he was unstoppable - in the first 45 minutes of the game - in his prime. Kobe fans like to talk around that fact.

FIFY - and to add to it, he was prime Greg Oden in the last 3 minutes. During the 3peat, Kobe was easy as ABC: always be closing - since Shaq couldn't :lol

[LkrFan]

Hell, take a look at the 3x Finals MVP at the 45:01 mark of every game:
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/11/40/60/2493467/5/920x920.jpg

BAAAAAAHHHAAHAHA! :lmao

[LkrFan]

End discussion: 1 - Kobe most over-rated great NBA player in history, just look at his low PER among greats (25th) https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career.html 2) Leonard is an *@$hole but a far better two way players despite Bryant being Mr. Popularity on NBA defensive teams.

^stat nerd. Kang said it best:

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FOH with your stats. I bet you was upstairs beating off to Kiwi's 41 points, huh? On 39 shots :lmao

[Rummpd]

And Kobe was not really clutch or at least as much as his advocates say - see earlier post..... Kobe was a volume scorer nothing more who appeared to play very hard but when it counted he was nothing more than a number two option led to titles by the greatness of prime Shaq or later when he was gift-wrapped Gasol and the greatness of Phil Jackson.........

[UncleDennis]

^stat nerd. Kang said it best:

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FOH with your stats. I bet you was upstairs beating off to Kiwi's 41 points, huh? On 39 shots :lmao


Not much choice though, had to keep shooting, his teammates all looked shell shocked. Siakem was invisible, Green played 30 minutes and contributed 2 points. I know his efficiency numbers sucked but that was more the story of a guy trying to pull a boulder back up a cliff. He was looking for his invisible teammates, but if he kept it up it would have eventually lost them the game.

To me, there are levels of disappointing play but the absolute worst is when a teams top guy misses a few, starts to shy away and then doesn't play aggressive when the whole entire team is looking for them to come up big (probably what the Spurs will deal with for the foreseeable future). He could have easily gave up after choking that second free throw away and then being late for the contest on the other side. But he got that insane shot up, ugly as it may have looked the result was the same and they move on.

Imagine if #2 rings this year and takes down the whole ex-spurs coaching tree on the way haha.

[dbreiden83080]

Well I am not going to kill him for the number of shots he took. He took 39. Kobe would have taken 60..

[boutons_deux]

game winner right there, 4th qtr, the only FT of 8 that he missed :




10.8
https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/tor.png&h=100&w=100
Kawhi Leonard misses free throw 2 of 2

[ambchang]

^stat nerd. Kang said it best:

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FOH with your stats. I bet you was upstairs beating off to Kiwi's 41 points, huh? On 39 shots :lmao

How many game winners did kobe score last the 2nd round in his illustrious 20 seasons?

[ambchang]

https://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

The only ones worse on the list are Chauncey Billups, sheed, Miller and jermaine.

:lol clutch.

[Chris]

If Leonard makes both his free throws we ring in 2013.

[endrity]

https://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

The only ones worse on the list are Chauncey Billups, sheed, Miller and jermaine.

:lol clutch.

I know this is me being nostalgic, but look at how well Dirk does across these clutch statistics. At or near the top, always.

It's incredible in many ways how a reputation can be built independent of facts. Dirk was one of the most clutch players of the 2000s, yet needed a superhuman playoff run to shut up the critics once and forever.

Kobe is average at best, yet people were seriously comparing him to MJ for many years.

[ambchang]

I know this is me being nostalgic, but look at how well Dirk does across these clutch statistics. At or near the top, always.

It's incredible in many ways how a reputation can be built independent of facts. Dirk was one of the most clutch players of the 2000s, yet needed a superhuman playoff run to shut up the critics once and forever.

Kobe is average at best, yet people were seriously comparing him to MJ for many years.

I always thought dirk got a bad rep. Most people talking basketball are not high on bbiq, or iq, in general. Dirk looked like a soft guy so he is soft and as such he is a choker.

Kobe put on a mean face with a jutted jaw so he’s serious and so must be clutch.

It’s amazing how stupid people are and now convicted someone can be on a subject considering how misinformed they are.

Looked at my past posting history and I don’t need believer I ever seriously called dirk a choker. He was undoubtedly subjected to be shut down by long athletic defenders though but that’s mostly matchups.

There are really very few chokers out there, defined by players who for no explainable reasons just play much worse under the bright lights. Pedo is one and Harden is the other. I think cp3 is arguably in that camp.

[LkrFan]

I always thought dirk got a bad rep. Most people talking basketball are not high on bbiq, or iq, in general. Dirk looked like a soft guy so he is soft and as such he is a choker.

Kobe put on a mean face with a jutted jaw so he’s serious and so must be clutch.

It’s amazing how stupid people are and now convicted someone can be on a subject considering how misinformed they are.

Looked at my past posting history and I don’t need believer I ever seriously called dirk a choker. He was undoubtedly subjected to be shut down by long athletic defenders though but that’s mostly matchups.

There are really very few chokers out there, defined by players who for no explainable reasons just play much worse under the bright lights. Pedo is one and Harden is the other. I think cp3 is arguably in that camp.

You a 3rd world country, Kobe hating, stat geek. Riddle me this. When have you ever seen such a clutch 2pt 4th quarter performance from Kobe? :downspin:

[ambchang]

You a 3rd world country, Kobe hating, stat geek. Riddle me this. When have you ever seen such a clutch 2pt 4th quarter performance from Kobe? :downspin:

You act like Kobe never shot 6-24 and won the fmvp.

[LkrFan]

You act like Kobe never shot 6-24 and won the fmvp.

Did he score 2pts or not in the 4th quarter of a playoff game when his team needed him?

[Spurs da champs]

If Leonard makes both his free throws we ring in 2013.

Poop will forever be responsible for that L, subbing out TD for Diaw was the worst move ever.

[ambchang]

Did he score 2pts or not in the 4th quarter of a playoff game when his team needed him?

He had many games he scored zero points in the entire playoff game.

Oh wait, his team didn’t need him.