Lurching towards war with Iran

[RandomGuy]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/u-s-officials-iran-official-ok-d-attacks-american-military-n1003421


WASHINGTON — The U.S. decision to surge additional military forces into the Middle East was based in part on intelligence that the Iranian regime has told some of its proxy forces and surrogates that they can now go after American military personnel and assets in the region, according to three U.S. officials familiar with the intelligence.

The intelligence shows that an Iranian official discussed activating Iranian-backed groups to target Americans, but did not mention targeting the militaries of other nations, the officials said.

Among the specific threats the U.S. military is now tracking, officials say, are possible missile attacks by Iranian dhows, or small ships, in the Persian Gulf; attacks in Iraq by Iranian-trained Shiite militia groups; and attacks against U.S. ships by the Houthi rebels in Yemen.

The U.S. has accused Iran of moving missiles and missile components through the region's waterways for years, shipping missiles to the Houthis in Yemen and others. And Shiite militia groups like Baghdad Katib Hezbollah (BKH) have been in Iraq for years, acting essentially as sleeper cells. What is new and what has alarmed U.S. military officials, sources say, is the call to awaken and activate these existing threats.

One U.S. official said Iran usually conceals the missiles and components when delivering them to the Houthis. These missiles are visible to overhead surveillance, leading to concerns Iran could attempt to launch missiles from the dhows. There are some indications they have mobile launchers on board, as well, one of the officials said.

Bolton has been pushing for this for years. Given the overall incompetence and laziness of Trump, I would say Bolton has a chance of getting it, right under Trump's nose.

Did I mention we have no Secretary of Defense?

[boutons_deux]

As if Repugs hadn't already fucked up the Middle East for BigOil

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Christ, they’re doing a play off the weapons of mass destruction lie they told in 2001.

Seriously, what kind of a piece of shit does one truly have to be to support this? T

the POSs who don't risk anything

[RandomGuy]

Christ, they’re doing a play off the weapons of mass destruction lie they told in 2001.

Seriously, what kind of a piece of shit does one truly have to be to support this? T

If it does go to a war it will be pretty nasty. I don't think most appreciate how bad it will get.

[boutons_deux]

If it does go to a war it will be pretty nasty. I don't think most appreciate how bad it will get.

BigOil will pocket $10Bs in profits while our gasoline prices skyrocket.

[SpursforSix]

BigOil will pocket $10Bs in profits while our gasoline prices skyrocket.

well on a positive note, Trump pushing oil to $100/bbl would probably kill his chances at reelection.
Unless maybe he's just looking for a reason to open up the strategic reserve.

[Winehole23]

Post-republic France and post-republic USA have at least one thing in common: the proliferation of ugly busts of the great man.


In BIZARRO VSA, Donald Trump is Napoleon.

[CosmicCowboy]

well on a positive note, Trump pushing oil to $100/bbl would probably kill his chances at reelection.
Unless maybe he's just looking for a reason to open up the strategic reserve.

The strategic reserve is pretty irrelevant volume wise. The problem with Iran is that their attitude may be "if we cant sell our oil, then nobody over here is going to sell oil". It would be simple for them to shut down the strait of Hormuz.

[CosmicCowboy]

20% of the world's oil production goes through there.

[Spurtacular]

Iran bad now.

[Pavlov]

Iran bad now.What do you mean by this, derp?

[CosmicCowboy]

One noor missile on an incoming (somewhat empty) supertanker and they could shut the strait till the rest of the world yelled uncle. No insurance company in the world would insure a tanker trying to run through there until it was resolved.

[pgardn]

Actually our Secretary of Defense is defaulted to Bolton.

[boutons_deux]

Trash to nominate Shanahan

[Winehole23]

Actually our Secretary of Defense is defaulted to Bolton.Wha? Is that normal?

[diego]

so better to "resolve" the problem before it exists, right? its just a matter of efficiency after all.

i dont believe their supposed "intelligence" for a second. this is going to be even worse than when clinton bombed the sudanese medicine factory, worse than when bush invaded iraq for the MIC, and its going to happen before 2020, but hey the price of oil is safe and its not like iranians ever mattered before anyways, and the stock market is gonna boom with 20 years of govt contracts for "operation freedom 2- ruin other countries repeatedly," coming to a cable news channel near you!

[RandomGuy]

The strategic reserve is pretty irrelevant volume wise. The problem with Iran is that their attitude may be "if we cant sell our oil, then nobody over here is going to sell oil". It would be simple for them to shut down the strait of Hormuz.

Exactly. Iran's bigger threat has been the shipkiller missles they have been working on, as well as the light attack craft, and mines.

They can shut it down.

[RandomGuy]

Trash to nominate Shanahan

Saw that.

Now they just need to pick someone for all the other vacancies....

[hater]

Nowadays with the invention of supersonic missiles, US aircraft carriers are nothing more than floating mass coffins.

That's basically why nobody really takes us seriously anymore tbqh. We except Canadians :lmao

[boutons_deux]

Bolton Is Spinning Israeli ‘Intelligence’ to Push for War Against Iran

John Bolton has gotten away with a dangerous deception.

to prepare the ground for an incident that could justify a retaliatory attack against Iran.

Bolton presented his threat and the deployments as a response to alleged intelligence about a possible Iranian attack on U.S. targets in the Middle East.

But what has emerged indicates that

the alleged intelligence does not actually reflect any dramatic new information or analysis from the U.S. intelligence community.

Instead, it has all the hallmarks of a highly political case concocted by Bolton.

senior Israeli national security officials played a key role in creating the alleged intelligence rationale for the case.

The new initiative follows an audacious ruse carried out last fall by Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo,

Bolton exploited that opportunity to press Pentagon officials to provide retaliatory military options, which they did, reluctantly.

...

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/bolton-is-spinning-israeli-intelligence-to-push-for-war-against-iran/ (https://www.truthdig.com/articles/bolton-is-spinning-israeli-intelligence-to-push-for-war-against-iran/)

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1128011719593295874

[CosmicCowboy]

Four B-52's?

WTF?

I'm sure Iran is crapping their pants on that one. Hell, they were shooting those big pigs down in Vietnam with 1960s era hardware.

[CosmicCowboy]

Looks like gas jumped another ten cents today after those Saudi supertankers were fucked up by the Iranians.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1128086771294564352

[pgardn]

Wha? Is that normal?

No

But essentially he has taken over foreign affairs.

[pgardn]

Nowadays with the invention of supersonic missiles, US aircraft carriers are nothing more than floating mass coffins.

That's basically why nobody really takes us seriously anymore tbqh. We except Canadians :lmao

You are such an idiot.
Of course they are useful conventionally.

But in your world everything goes nuclear immediately.
Bolton would probably love Iran to try and sink a carrier

[Nbadan]

For those of you who don't remember John Bolton, he was a useful idiot neocon who assured us that Saddam had WMDs and ties to Al Queda

[Spurs Homer]

We have seen this Republican movie before...we know how it ends...badly.


DISTRACTION TIME!

[boutons_deux]

short history course of the murderous "Christian" American Empire obsessed with, addicted to war

Is Trump Yet Another U.S. President Provoking a War?

The United States has a long history of provoking, instigating, or launching wars based on dubious, flimsy, or manufactured threats.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/is-trump-yet-another-us-president-provoking-a-war (https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/is-trump-yet-another-us-president-provoking-a-war)

[boutons_deux]

Spain pulls frigate from U.S. Gulf mission amid differences over Iran

Spain has withdrawn a frigate from a U.S.-led naval group in the Gulf because

it was now focusing on alleged threats from Iran

rather than an agreed objective to mark an historic seafaring anniversary

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-spain/spain-pulls-frigate-from-u-s-gulf-mission-amid-differences-over-iran-idUSKCN1SK106?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-spain/spain-pulls-frigate-from-u-s-gulf-mission-amid-differences-over-iran-idUSKCN1SK106?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29)

[Spurs Homer]

What would a criminal do to avoid prosecution?

start a trade war with china?
start a war with iran?
confuse everyone with erratic behavior?


all of the above

[Spurminator]

141604554855825408

[Spurs Homer]

141604554855825408

...and of course

PROJECT

all his criminal actions onto others...


one of his most consistent and telling behaviors.

[boutons_deux]

A Criminal Affair: United States Imposes War on the Venezuelan People (https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/05/15/a-criminal-affair-united-states-imposes-war-on-the-venezuelan-people/)


https://uziiw38pmyg1ai60732c4011-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/dropzone/2019/02/A182FA20-BE09-43E2-87A9-7EB5083EFE16-768x594.png

To replace Venezuela’s government with one to its liking, the United States uses special war-making tools.

The plan is to make Venezuelans suffer enough so that, desperate, they will accept whatever government is presented.

Troops and weapons aren’t required.

That approached worked in Chile in 1973,

but so far in Cuba it hasn’t – after almost 60 years.

40,000 more Venezuelans died in 2018 than in 2017. The death rate jumped by 31 percent.

Pompeo conceded that U.S. sanctions against Venezuela “sometimes have an adverse impact on the people of Venezuela.”

he was celebrating:

“The circle is (https://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2019/03/290269.htm) tightening,

the humanitarian crisis is increasing by the hour.

I talked with our senior person on the ground there in Venezuela last night …

You can see the increasing pain and suffering that the Venezuelan people are suffering from.”

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/05/15/a-criminal-affair-united-states-imposes-war-on-the-venezuelan-people/ (https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/05/15/a-criminal-affair-united-states-imposes-war-on-the-venezuelan-people/)

Pompeo is a Christian, hypocritical, hate-driven asshole like most of them

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/tB88W0X/Screenshot-2019-05-15-10-55-20-1.png

Embarrassing

[boutons_deux]

John Bolton, Far Worse Than You Realize

people do not quite know who John Bolton is.

They assume – rightly – that anyone in the Trump orbit must be either a moral weakling, a crazy person or someone with one foot out the door.

All true. But John Bolton is a unique and uniquely dangerous character.

nominated Bolton to serve as UN Ambassador



couldn’t even get confirmed in a Republican Senate for the simple reason that he was just too big a warmonger to be a safe pick even for UN Ambassador.

Bolton is a caricature of a militarist and warmonger.

Bolton doesn’t come from that worldview, as limited and as disastrous as it has proven.

In really every context he is for hard US dominance, unilateralism and war as the preferred course of action.

Again, he’s really the caricature

of a militarist, the kind of one-dimensional, clownishly hawkish type who gets described in small circulation left-wing magazines but can’t possibly exist in real life,

only he does exist and his name is John Bolton.

The second point is equally important. He’s no fool. He’s a very bright guy.

And – critically important – he’s a master of bureaucratic politics.

John Bolton is not the type to make those kinds of mistakes or allow his directives to get sidelined or forgotten in the federal bureaucracy.

that is combined to the almost total power of President Trump’s National Security Advisor (uniquely empowered,

even in the context of recent presidencies)

that makes for tremendous power and in Bolton’s case tremendous power to do awful things.

there’s really no one left in the Trump national security world to say no to him or ignore intemperate orders.

But there is Bolton who is precisely the kind of person who to goad the President into issuing such orders.

It would not surprise me in the least if he is pushing Trump on the idea that

a war or limited military engagement with Iran would ensure his reelection next year.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/john-bolton-far-worse-than-you-realize?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29 (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/john-bolton-far-worse-than-you-realize?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29)

[boutons_deux]

Trump and Bolton: Two fat heads with itchy trigger fingers and 120,000 troops

A body of water called a “gulf” where a ship was “damaged” in an “attack,” and

nobody can verify either the attack or the damage.

A lying idiot in the White House itching to launch an attack on a regime he hates.

A lying national security adviser whispering in the ear of the lying idiot that

if we don’t “do something,”

our “resolve” will be questioned and

we will look “weak.”

Here we fucking go again.

Gulf of Tonkin? Persian Gulf? The North Vietnamese? The Iranians? What is this, 1964?

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/trumps-war-whisperer-just-took-the-field/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Nbadan]

The United States meant to isolate Iran. It looks increasingly isolated itself.


The Trump administration has spent years trying to convince U.S. allies that the international community needed to isolate Iran. But this week, as a series of provocations appeared to raise the possibility of conflict, it looks increasingly as if the United States itself may be increasingly isolated.

Britain, historically the United States’ closest ally, is openly balking at the prospect of a war with Iran. A British military commander undercut U.S. claims of increased activity by Tehran’s proxies Tuesday, telling reporters that there had been “no increased threat from Iranian-backed forces in Iraq or Syria.”

Meanwhile, Spain announced Tuesday that it was pulling its frigate from a U.S.-led naval group that is headed for the Persian Gulf, telling reporters that the “U.S. government has taken a decision outside of the framework of what had been agreed with the Spanish Navy,”

The European Union’s foreign policy chief, Federica Mogherini, told Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Monday that he should pursue a policy of “maximum restraint, avoiding any escalation on the military side,” she later told reporters.

The next day, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told the U.S. diplomat that he hopes the United States will not increase its military presence to push back on Iran, noting that “the region is overburdened with conflict as it is.”

Traditional U.S. allies such as Australia and Canada have remained quiet. Even Gulf Arab states that openly oppose Iran, such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, seem cautious this week. Israel’s Benjamin Netanyahu may be the only world leader who has proactively praised the Trump administration’s tough stance on Iran.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-united-states-meant-to-isolate-iran-it-looks-increasingly-isolated-itself/ar-AABpuAX?li=BBnbcA1

[UnWantedTheory]

For those of you who don't remember John Bolton, he was a useful idiot neocon who assured us that Saddam had WMDs and ties to Al Queda

[UnWantedTheory]

Pretty sure his attempt at starting a war with Iran was predicted a couple of years ago. It isn't a big shock it is starting during the time where he is fighting the House and less than two years before the election.

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When the failing terrorist Repugs fucked up the Middle East by invading Iraq for BigOil, the neocon Macho Man bullshit was:

“Anyone can go to Baghdad. Real men go to Tehran.”

... trying to paint, inimidate dubya as a wimp like his wimp Pappy who invaded Koweit but wimped out not going to Baghdad.

Bombing Iran, for oil, has been on the neocon agenda for decades

neocon war-monger McCain doing the Beach Boys: "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRonG87eKw

[RandomGuy]

https://i.ibb.co/tB88W0X/Screenshot-2019-05-15-10-55-20-1.png

Embarrassing

You're just now getting there?

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/seSsDmR90Qknn2Kr2dlS8lhIe2Y=/0x0:620x342/920x613/filters:focal(261x122:359x220):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/53092035/welcome_to_the_jc27bb.0.jpg

[RandomGuy]

Pretty sure his attempt at starting a war with Iran was predicted a couple of years ago. It isn't a big shock it is starting during the time where he is fighting the House and less than two years before the election.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/23/17/4E82FFDC00000578-5983229-image-a-39_1532362862265.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/23/17/4E82FFE400000578-5983229-image-a-41_1532362900201.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/23/17/4E82FFE000000578-5983229-image-a-42_1532362916199.jpg

Of course there is a tweet. There is always a tweet.

[boutons_deux]

Trump, frustrated by advisers, is not convinced the time is right to attack Iran

Trump prefers a diplomatic approach :lol to resolving tensions :lol like the Iran Nuclear dear? :lol

and wants to speak directly with Iran’s leaders. :lol

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-frustrated-by-advisers-is-not-convinced-the-time-is-right-to-attack-iran/2019/05/15/bbf5835e-1fbf-4035-a744-12799213e824_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7d5b28f76e88&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-frustrated-by-advisers-is-not-convinced-the-time-is-right-to-attack-iran/2019/05/15/bbf5835e-1fbf-4035-a744-12799213e824_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7d5b28f76e88&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1)

Trash diplomacy, talking, deal making has worked beautifully with NK and China

[FrostKing]

You're just now getting there?

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/seSsDmR90Qknn2Kr2dlS8lhIe2Y=/0x0:620x342/920x613/filters:focal(261x122:359x220):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/53092035/welcome_to_the_jc27bb.0.jpg
I've always questioned Americas relationship with those 2 scummy nations. I'm team Iran anyway

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"Republicans are lining up to spread the message that

war with Iran would be easy (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/05/14/1857682/-#%C2%A1#*@!+%C2%A7-Sen-Tom-Cotton-suggests-war-with-Iran-would-be-a-cakewalk), and that

it’s time for everyone to get behind Donald Trump (https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1128619127755689985).

On Tuesday, Republican Sen. Tom Cotton :lol declared that the United States could win a war in Iran with just

“Two strikes: the first strike and a last strike.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/5/15/1857784/-Drumbeat-for-conflict-with-Iran-sounds-louder-as-Republicans-call-for-unity-in-an-easy-war?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/5/15/1857784/-Drumbeat-for-conflict-with-Iran-sounds-louder-as-Republicans-call-for-unity-in-an-easy-war?detail=emaildkre)

[CosmicCowboy]

Hopefully clearer heads prevail. There is no doubt we could eventually fuck up their infrastructure, but at what cost? It definitely wouldn't be Baghdad II. And what would it really accomplish except make the average citizens pissed off?

[FrostKing]

Hopefully clearer heads prevail. There is no doubt we could eventually fuck up their infrastructure, but at what cost? It definitely wouldn't be Baghdad II. And what would it really accomplish except make the average citizens pissed off?
It would still require significant drumming up. Illustrate to the public that Iranian leadership significantly mistreat its own people and you need a central villain figure. Even then WMD type of weaponry. Iran would likely also need to escalate but maybe they feel backed into a corner by US/Saudi.

But because of the massive failure of Iraq II, alot of Americans will require proof of how Iran directly threatens their well being in North America

We have a looong way to go and very unlikely

[in2deep]

John Bolton strikes me as the type of lunatic that would purposefully allow Iran to sink a coue of our ships in the Persian Gulf resulting in hundreds of American sailor lives in order to be able to use nukes to beat Iran. He probably truly believes once US successfully uses a tactical nuke nobody in the world would dare not do US bidding

[boutons_deux]

John Bolton strikes me as the type of lunatic that would purposefully allow Iran to sink a coue of our ships in the Persian Gulf resulting in hundreds of American sailor lives in order to be able to use nukes to beat Iran. He probably truly believes once US successfully uses a tactical nuke nobody in the world would dare not do US bidding

and he is National Security Advisor

[Winehole23]

Hopefully clearer heads prevail. There is no doubt we could eventually fuck up their infrastructure, but at what cost? It definitely wouldn't be Baghdad II. And what would it really accomplish except make the average citizens pissed off?It's already weakening Rouhani and strengthening hardliners inside Iran. Expect that trend to continue.

There are a number of reasons going to war with Iran is a bad idea. Two of them are geography and population, two others are Iran's military strength and the low chance of the USA achieving its political objectives.

A hot war could diminish US influence even more in the region and would likely benefit Russia and China, much like the Iraq invasion did.

The cost in US blood and treasure would be immense, the blowback would last generations -- and for what?

[RandomGuy]

Hopefully clearer heads prevail. There is no doubt we could eventually fuck up their infrastructure, but at what cost? It definitely wouldn't be Baghdad II. And what would it really accomplish except make the average citizens pissed off?

Iran's military is about four times larger than Iraqs was, with an intact unified military that has been geared towards the US for decades. We would still squash them like bugs, but it would be very costly in many ways.

The conflicts of interest your dumb ass has been pretending aren't important because it's Republicans doing it are partially driving this, because we have sold our foreign policy part and parcel to Saudi Arabia through Kushner, with Bolton pushing the war angle like he has for decades.

Meanwhile you have a servile bunch of chickenshit Republicans in Congress that offer a steady "Iran Bad" stream of "disastrous Obama deal" propaganda, without any proposed deal that might be better.

ALSO:
"drone attacks" that someone sure seems to want to attribute to the Iranian proxies in Yemen, for some reason
British generals publicly stating "Iran isn't doing anything different or provocative that we have seen"

At this point, what does it say when the Iranian diplomats saying "we have not ramped up anything" is more credible that anything coming out of this administration?

If we go to war against Iran, we have so pissed off our traditional allies, that we will be pretty much going it alone. Strike that...we will have Saudis on our side, a PR nightmare after Kashoggi's dismemberment.

This whole thing is a shambling shit-show. I have zero confidence that Bolton/Kushner won't succeed in starting this because Trump is just too lazy to give a shit.

[boutons_deux]

Trash tells staff he doesn't want a war with Iran.

So it's on Bolton/Kushner to provoke one that Trash can't refuse

[RandomGuy]

It's already weakening Rouhani and strengthening hardliners inside Iran. Expect that trend to continue.

There are a number of reasons going to war with Iran is a bad idea. Two of them are geography and population, two others are Iran's military strength and the low chance of the USA achieving its political objectives.

A hot war could diminish US influence even more in the region and would likely benefit Russia and China, much like the Iraq invasion did.

The cost in US blood and treasure would be immense, the blowback would last generations -- and for what?

But hey man... at least Hillary isn't president. We have that, amirite CC?

[Avant]

Totally wipe out the entire Middle East and take the gas and all we need.

Tired of Islam, terrorists groups, all that stupid violence we see coming from those idiots.

[boutons_deux]

Totally wipe out the entire Middle East and take the gas and all we need.

Tired of Islam, terrorists groups, all that stupid violence we see coming from those idiots.

Terrorist Repugs have committed much more stupid violence in the Middle East and Afghanistan. US is murdering Muslims everywhere, you happy?

[Spurminator]

Donald Trump wants to avoid war with Iran. Clearly what we need is some kind of discussion and agreement with Iran that will halt their development of nuclear weapons.

[apalisoc_9]

Terrorist Repugs have committed much more stupid violence in the Middle East and Afghanistan. US is murdering Muslims everywhere, you happy?

He doesnt realize the US is the terrorist.

[Winehole23]

Donald Trump wants to avoid war with Iran. Clearly what we need is some kind of discussion and agreement with Iran that will halt their development of nuclear weapons.the US reneged, but Iran is still in compliance with the JPCOA

[pgardn]

Trash tells staff he doesn't want a war with Iran.

So it's on Bolton/Kushner to provoke one that Trash can't refuse

Yeah.

Sure that’s a solid statement like all the rest.
He does not know wtf he wants.

[Avant]

Terrorist Repugs have committed much more stupid violence in the Middle East and Afghanistan. US is murdering Muslims everywhere, you happy?

The world would be far better off without the bullshit in the Middle East, all they ever do is fight and cause trouble.

[Winehole23]

The world would be far better off without the bullshit in the Middle East, all they ever do is fight and cause trouble.What trouble did Iran start with the USA?.

[ElNono]

:lmao peeps bitching about warmonger Shillary, then you get John Bolton... such naivete...

[hater]

:lol peeps thinking we actually were close to war with Iran. It's aBS distraction move to fool the masses. No US soldier is gonna do anything John Bolton says :lol

[boutons_deux]

The world would be far better off without the bullshit in the Middle East, all they ever do is fight and cause trouble.

not nearly as much as America

[boutons_deux]

Exxon evacuates foreign staff from Iraqi oilfield


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-iraq-exxon-mobil/exxon-mobil-evacuates-foreign-staff-from-iraqi-oilfield-sources-idUSKCN1SO08O (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-iraq-exxon-mobil/exxon-mobil-evacuates-foreign-staff-from-iraqi-oilfield-sources-idUSKCN1SO08O)

[MultiTroll]

Iran dismisses possibility of conflict, says does not want war



Iran's top diplomat on Saturday dismissed the possibility of war erupting in the region, saying Tehran did not want a conflict and that no country had the "illusion it can confront Iran," the state news agency IRNA reported. Tensions between Washington and Tehran have increased in recent days, raising concerns about a potential U.S.-Iran conflict. Earlier this week the United States pulled some diplomatic staff from its Baghdad embassy following attacks on oil tankers in the Gulf.

"There will be no war because neither do we want a war, nor has anyone the idea or illusion it can confront Iran in the region," Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif told IRNA before ending a visit to Beijing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-dismisses-possibility-of-conflict-says-does-not-want-war/ar-AABxSkf?ocid=spartanntp

[boutons_deux]

Amid Murky Intel, Experts Say Time to Be Clear:

Threat of War With Iran "Solely and Unequivocally" Trump's Fault

"Trump action provokes Iran reaction provokes U.S. reaction and suddenly march to another quagmire catastrophic war."

foreign policy experts and analysts are attempting to set the record straight by establishing

precisely who is responsible for the dangerously high tensions in the Middle East that could spark a catastrophic war.

The unequivocal answer, according to former CIA Middle East analyst Paul Pillar, is the Trump administration.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/05/17/amid-murky-intel-experts-say-time-be-clear-threat-war-iran-solely-and-unequivocally

Trash's war-mongering is stupid if he doesn't bomb Iran.

[boutons_deux]

FAKE tuff guy :lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/874276197357596672/kUuht00m_bigger.jpg (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)Donald J. Trump
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔@realDonaldTrump
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)If Iran wants to fight, that will be the official end of Iran.

Never threaten the United States again!

3:25 PM - May 19, 2019 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1130207891049332737)

[pgardn]

Trash tells staff he doesn't want a war with Iran.

So it's on Bolton/Kushner to provoke one that Trash can't refuse


Yeah.

Sure that’s a solid statement like all the rest.
He does not know wtf he wants.


FAKE tuff guy :lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/874276197357596672/kUuht00m_bigger.jpg (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)Donald J. Trump
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔@realDonaldTrump
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)If Iran wants to fight, that will be the official end of Iran.

Never threaten the United States again!

3:25 PM - May 19, 2019 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1130207891049332737)









So again we stand in the middle of nowhere with a president who has followers who still think he plays chess...

fckn idiot...

[RandomGuy]

Donald Trump wants to avoid war with Iran. Clearly what we need is some kind of discussion and agreement with Iran that will halt their development of nuclear weapons.

You are assuming Executive Time Golfy McCheezeberder isn't too lazy to stop it.

All it takes is just the wrong things in the wrong places just long enough for Bad Things to happen. Trump's ignorance of the details, means the people pushing can do things he doesn't know about, nor know enough to change even if it is done right in front of him.

Trump has proven easily manipulated by close advisors.

He might not want to, but that means far less than it should.

[boutons_deux]

And we know when Bolton, etc get their Tonkin Gulf event, Trash will LIE about it beyond all evidence to justify attacking Iran.

eg, any details around about the 3 tankers that were "attacked" ? I haven't seen any

[SpursforSix]

So again we stand in the middle of nowhere with a president who has followers who still think he plays chess...

fckn idiot...

In their defense, I suspect the amount of Trump followers that understand Chess is pretty low.

[RandomGuy]

In their defense, I suspect the amount of Trump followers that understand Chess is pretty low.

en passant FTW.

[CosmicCowboy]

I don't know about you guys, but I cant think of a single thing that Iran has done to effect my life. I sure as hell cant think of a reason to go to war with them.

[midnightpulp]

I don't know about you guys, but I cant think of a single thing that Iran has done to effect my life. I sure as hell cant think of a reason to go to war with them.

Here's a 100 of 'em:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_defense_contractors

[midnightpulp]

:lmao at Fox News.

"War bad now," because Lord Trump has spoken against it. If this were 2010, they'd be calling Obomba a capitulating wimp, and clutching their pearls while saying, "Iran must be dealt with! This rogue state not only threatens national security, but global security. As the leader of the free world and protector of democracy around the globe, it's our duty....yada, yada, yada."

[pgardn]

I don't know about you guys, but I cant think of a single thing that Iran has done to effect my life. I sure as hell cant think of a reason to go to war with them.

Along with Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and others they have made you wait in airport lines.
But then again we shoved the Shah in their face so there’s that...

All played a major role in terrorist technology.

[Winehole23]

I don't know about you guys, but I cant think of a single thing that Iran has done to effect my life. I sure as hell cant think of a reason to go to war with them.I can think of three reasons: Israel, the KSA and the UAE want us to.

[TheGreatYacht]

Trump Says the Military Industrial Complex is Pressuring him Into a War With Iran

https://youtu.be/08j-kaXHobY

[Winehole23]

Trump should fire Pompeo and Bolton if he doesn't like it, but hia reluctance is probably a show. Trump wants to go to war. Det CINC glory will be hard to resist -- he already ramped up the rate of bombing in half a dozen places.

[Winehole23]

If Trump does go to war, board Trumpistas will hail him pussying out to the MIC as an alpha move and call anyone who disagrees a traitor, same as after 9/11.

[RandomGuy]

Trump should fire Pompeo and Bolton if he doesn't like it, but hia reluctance is probably a show. Trump wants to go to war. Det CINC glory will be hard to resist -- he already ramped up the rate of bombing in half a dozen places.

I have little doubt that Dumb Donald Chickenshit McBonespurs wants a war. His past statement indicates that he thinks the country will have to unite behind him, but he has to make a show of not wanting it. That sounds cynical as all get out, but Dumb Donald doesn't get the benefit of the doubt at this point.

[FrostKing]

I would find it extremely difficult to support Trump considering the mass exodus of refugees this would erupt onto Europe.

Democrats hate my race but they are just one political party in a nation in North America. I really don't want anymore africans or arabs in Europe and would prefer to face the slow cultural rotting of western liberals over more region destabilizing by neo-cons

[UnWantedTheory]

I have little doubt that Dumb Donald Chickenshit McBonespurs wants a war. His past statement indicates that he thinks the country will have to unite behind him, but he has to make a show of not wanting it. That sounds cynical as all get out, but Dumb Donald doesn't get the benefit of the doubt at this point.
Pretty much. He has years worth of comments that make this likely.

[TheGreatYacht]

Proof U.S. Is Provoking Iran Into WAR

https://youtu.be/hOudBT4S4y0

[Winehole23]

What is Trump trying to get Iran to do? Negotiate? Reform its political system? Sure looks like the US is escalating the situation without any clear objective or exit plan.

[pgardn]

What is Trump trying to get Iran to do? Negotiate? Reform it's political system? Sure looks like the US is escalating the situation without any clear objective or exit plan.

Could be diversionary for his mounting domestic problems.
I don’t know if he’s patient enough to pull himself out of a situation in which he loses face.
It’s not comforting.

I take that back. He is more than willing to lose face as he can convince himself and about a third of America that he has won something. Ex N Korea

[Winehole23]

One notable result of the 2003 Iraq war was that the US drove Iraq into the arms of its historical enemy and enhanced its regional influence.

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[Spurminator]

Finally, some progress towards Peace in the Middle East.

[Capt Bringdown]

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[CosmicCowboy]

If Trump does go to war, board Trumpistas will hail him pussying out to the MIC as an alpha move and call anyone who disagrees a traitor, same as after 9/11.

I will absolutely disagree with going to war with Iran no matter what.

[boutons_deux]

Iran sees 'no prospect of negotiations with America,' foreign ministry says (https://theweek.com/speedreads/843842/iran-sees-no-prospect-negotiations-america-foreign-ministry-says)

Trash remained hopeful on Monday, saying he "really believe[s] that

Iran would like to make a deal," and

that he's only seeking denuclearization and not a regime change.

Iran, on the other hand, disagreed.

“Iran pays no attention to words. What matters to us is a change of approach and behavior," spokesperson Abbas Mousavi reportedly told the Fars news agency,

https://theweek.com/speedreads/843842/iran-sees-no-prospect-negotiations-america-foreign-ministry-says (https://theweek.com/speedreads/843842/iran-sees-no-prospect-negotiations-america-foreign-ministry-says)

After Bolton's Bombs (c) start falling on Iran, I predict Trash will say

"I, Supreme Deal Maker, offered Iran a (really shitty, stupid, ignorant, ridiculous) deal, and Iran refused to suck my dick."

People who have followed failed businessman fraud Trash for decades say the objective of Trash's deals is always to hurt the other party.

Mutually beneficial deals are never the objective.

[RandomGuy]

What is Trump trying to get Iran to do? Negotiate? Reform its political system? Sure looks like the US is escalating the situation without any clear objective or exit plan.

He does that all the time as part of his "business" MO. Problem is that when countries and armies are involved, that is irresponsible and dangerous.

Especially with chickenhawk Bolton in the engine room. :wow

[RandomGuy]

I will absolutely disagree with going to war with Iran no matter what.

So?

What are you going to do about it? Donate more money to the GOP that keeps him in power? Keep voting for them? That will show him.

Republican party has been taken over at this point. Trump is truly making it his own, and is building up a cult of personality.

Trump is every bit as bad as the hysterical right fantasized Obama was and more. This stuff is happening right in front of you.

[CosmicCowboy]

Best case would be Republicans taking the party back. Let the house impeach and drag him through the mud for a year, run a viable primary opponent and beat him in the primary. I'm sick of that idiot.

[Spurminator]

I will absolutely disagree with going to war with Iran no matter what.


Best case would be Republicans taking the party back. Let the house impeach and drag him through the mud for a year, run a viable primary opponent and beat him in the primary. I'm sick of that idiot.

:tu

[boutons_deux]

"Republicans taking the party back"

:lol how FUCKING naive

Trash is symptom of the Repugs' degradation into cheap little whores to the oligarchy, not the cause.

The Repugs not standing up to Trash, but defending him proves how fucking degraded they are.

Repugs ain't gonna get better for the non-oligarchy, only MUCH worse, and including fatally so.

[Winehole23]

That's fantastical.

The GOP is not going to primary DJT in 2020. They are all in on Trump.

For that reason alone, it'll be necessary to vote against Republicans across the board. Unless they lose and lose badly, they'll never get the message.

[boutons_deux]

they'll never get the message.

the ONLY message they listen to is from the oligarchy's whore-whisperers, and the vocabulary is dollars, $Bs

[Spurminator]

It's a step in the right direction for conservatives to voice their displeasure and hope for some challenge to Trump's stranglehold, whether realistic or not.

The next step is to maintain that position against the flood of bad-faith fearmongering that will be leveled against his 2020 opponent, instead of repeating 2016 when the 60% of Republicans who disapproved of Trump talked themselves into liking him.

[boutons_deux]

"conservatives to voice their displeasure"

if such a so-conservative were an elected politician, they would primaried ASAP

[baseline bum]

Trash is symptom of the Repugs' degradation into cheap little whores to the oligarchy, not the cause.

He really is the logical culmination of the tea party movement that radicalized the GOP.

[boutons_deux]

He really is the logical culmination of the tea party movement that radicalized the GOP.

The tea party, and its Freedom Kockus, were created, are funded by Kock Bros and other billionaires of the oligarchy.

The Repug radicalization was started by the Gingrich Repugs, shutting down govt TWICE to spite, harass Clinton.

The oligarchy's strategy to Take Back America For Themselves (esp for the blacks' gains of the 50s and 60s) started in the early 70s (Lewis Powell memo) and has progressed, ratcheted forward since then.

The current Repugs don't give the tiniest fuck about the (archaic, ridiculous) Constitution, America, the environment, citizens, or ANYTHING except what the oligarchy pays them to give a shit about.

btw, the establishment Dems, intent on blocking progressive Dems and their policies, aren't much better.

Wealthy establishment Pelosi refuses to impeach Trash. W T flying F? and most House Dems support her.

[CosmicCowboy]

He really is the logical culmination of the tea party movement that radicalized the GOP.

The tea party movement initially was about fiscal responsibility and Trump is hardly representative of that. Trump was a result of low information voters dissatisfaction with the status quo just like the rise of the "free everything" Democrats on the left.

[baseline bum]

The tea party movement initially was about fiscal responsibility and Trump is hardly representative of that. Trump was a result of low information voters dissatisfaction with the status quo just like the rise of the "free everything" Democrats on the left.

The tea party movement was about mobilizing anger at the scary negro in the white house.

[RandomGuy]

Best case would be Republicans taking the party back. Let the house impeach and drag him through the mud for a year, run a viable primary opponent and beat him in the primary. I'm sick of that idiot.

That would be the best case.

It won't happen, and you know it won't. Republican party officials seem ready to slouch towards fascism. Until we get money out of politics, the party of rich white guys, for rich white guys, and of rich white guys will continue its run to the right.

You want something eye-opening look up Mussulini's Italy, and then tell me I am being unreasonable or alarmist. The parallels... yikes.

[boutons_deux]

Top U.S. security adviser: Iranian mines likely caused UAE tanker blasts

U.S. National Security Adviser John Bolton said on Wednesday that

naval mines “almost certainly from Iran”

were used to attack oil tankers off the United Arab Emirates this month, and

warned Tehran against conducting new operations.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-emirates-bolton/top-u-s-security-adviser-iranian-mines-likely-caused-uae-tanker-blasts-idUSKCN1SZ0JO?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-emirates-bolton/top-u-s-security-adviser-iranian-mines-likely-caused-uae-tanker-blasts-idUSKCN1SZ0JO?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29)

working assumption: Bolton is "almost certainly" lying

[Winehole23]

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[RandomGuy]

He really is the logical culmination of the tea party movement that radicalized the GOP.

Eyup.

[boutons_deux]

Repugs were purged and radicalized by the oligarchy.

The tea baggers are financed, owned by Kock Bros

[Ghazi]

"America cannot do a damn thing to us" -Imam Khomeini

[spurraider21]

"America cannot do a damn thing to us" -Imam Khomeini
marg bar ghazi

[Winehole23]

Domestic propaganda, paid for by the State Department.

Very foreseeable after Smith-Mundt restrictions on the domestic dissemination of US propaganda were repealed in 2012. This kind of shit used to be illegal.


There has been a nasty ongoing smear campaign directed against Iranian and Iranian-American journalists, academics, and activists because they have criticized administration policy and because they don’t echo hawkish talking points on Iran. It recently came to light that part of this campaign was receiving U.S. government funding that was supposed to be used to combat propaganda from foreign governments. Thanks to public exposure and pressure on the State Department, that funding has been suspended (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/31/us-cuts-funds-for-anti-propaganda-group-that-trolled-activists):


The US state department has cut off funding to a group that purported to combat Iranian propaganda, after it was found to be trolling US journalists, human rights activists and academics it deemed to be insufficiently hostile to the government in Tehran.

The Iran Disinformation Project was funded by the state department’s global engagement centre which was created to counter foreign propaganda and disinformation. In recent weeks however, the group’s Twitter account @IranDisinfo targeted BBC journalists, thinktank experts and civil society advocates, denouncing them as being “mouthpieces” and supporters of the Iranian government.

In one case they singled out a researcher for Human Rights Watch (HRW), Tara Sepehri Far, because she had looked into the human rights impact of [US] sanctions on ordinary Iranians.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/the-iran-hawks-creepy-smear-campaign/

[boutons_deux]

This Is a Big Big Deal

The Trump State Department

hired a contractor to attack US citizens on Twitter over Iran policy (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/state-department-support-iran-war-social-media-attack).

And the contractor seems to have an oddly close relationship to a major pro-Iran war think tank.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/this-is-a-big-big-deal-4?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29 (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/this-is-a-big-big-deal-4?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29)

So the MIC Capitalists are pushing hard for $100Bs to be spent attacking Iran

[TheGreatYacht]

Iran Claims To Have Arrested 150 Rioters Who Confessed To Working For 'Outside Forces'

https://youtu.be/Q4uyz6xqnJE




Who could those "outside forces" be? Israel? USA? Both?

[Winehole23]

The protests are widespread and the state killed the internet, making it hard to get information. According to Amnesty International ~106 people have died at the hands of security forces.

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[Winehole23]

200% hike in the cost of fuel --> general strike

[TheGreatYacht]

The protests are widespread and the state killed the internet, making it hard to get information. According to Amnesty International ~106 people have died at the hands of security forces.

1196499414627627010

Do you mean Google and JooTube who have shut down Iranian news media outlets to suppress the truth from the public via orders of the CIA?

https://www.mintpressnews.com/with-us-on-the-warpath-irans-press-tv-the-latest-target-for-google-political-censorship/257682/

[Winehole23]

You rely heavily on the Jootube yourself, TGY, and if Google is trying to throttle news about Iran they're doing a piss poor job of it, the Press TV website seems to be working just fine.

[TheGreatYacht]

You rely heavily on the Jootube yourself, TGY, and if Google is trying to throttle news about Iran they're doing a piss poor job of it, the Press TV website seems to be working just fine.

That is the new Press TV channel. Find the old one which had over 250k subscribers. And before that they had an even bigger channel. The new Press TV channel barely gets over 200 views per video. Youtube algorithms really screwing them over and shoving down CNN, MSNBC and Fox news down our throats.

[Winehole23]

Your bs didn't survive momentary scrutiny. I'm not surprised.

[boutons_deux]

100 killed so far in protests against Iran raising gas price as result of Trash's economic sanctions,

100 dead for vengeance-driven Trash to spite Obama and his Iran deal. Trash cries himself to sleep over these dead.

[TheGreatYacht]

US Government Withholds Iranian Food/Medicine While Claiming To "Stand With The Iranian People"

https://youtu.be/rXXfhtV4WqQ

[TheGreatYacht]

Preparations For Another Iran False Flag Are Under Way

https://youtu.be/RC87Gt0wxaw

[boutons_deux]

Trump considering sending 14,000 more troops to the Middle East

As many as 14,000 additional U.S. troops and dozens of ships could soon be deployed to the Middle East in order to counter Iran,

U.S. officials told The Wall Street Journal. (https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-considers-14-000-more-troops-for-mideast-11575494228)

https://theweek.com/speedreads/882430/report-trump-considering-sending-14000-more-troops-middle-east (https://theweek.com/speedreads/882430/report-trump-considering-sending-14000-more-troops-middle-east)

[TheGreatYacht]

Trump, the Zionist bitch. The neocon.

[TheGreatYacht]

US Claims "Fresh Intelligence" Of Iran Attacks Yet Provides Zero Evidence - MSM Blindly Regurgitates

https://youtu.be/AwL1gTfRxuc

[boutons_deux]

US claiming Iran killed 1000 in recent protests, not saying where that number came from.

some kind rights watch group in Iran? says probably 100s.

[TheGreatYacht]

Widespread Protests & Unrest In Iran

https://youtu.be/bUF-RUUkzH4

[Spurtacular]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/u-s-officials-iran-official-ok-d-attacks-american-military-n1003421



Bolton has been pushing for this for years. Given the overall incompetence and laziness of Trump, I would say Bolton has a chance of getting it, right under Trump's nose.

Did I mention we have no Secretary of Defense?

:lol Back when Bolton was bad.

[Winehole23]

Trump, the Zionist bitch. The neocon.Purple prose, haha.

Is your airway constricted? Very few own takes in this thread.

[RandomGuy]

:lol Back when Bolton was bad.

Bolton still bad.

Which makes it all the more telling when even this scummy fuck is fed up with Trump.

[Spurtacular]

Bolton still bad.

Which makes it all the more telling when even this scummy fuck is fed up with Trump.

Oh, we're doing all the more telling now; but it was a false dichotomy when the truther couldn't be "all the more telling" the other day. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

US Gov Claims "Thousands" Killed In Iran Based On Unvetted, Unconfirmed Video Sent By [REDACTED]

https://youtu.be/rBlh4jJnRgA

[TheGreatYacht]

Israel Bombs Syria Killing Several, Threatens Iran With Attacks & Plans New Gaza Offensive

https://youtu.be/8jPdbJhBtD0

[TheGreatYacht]

US Claims Iran Using "Increasingly Sophisticated" ROCKETS In Iraq - Here Is Why That Is Ridiculous

https://youtu.be/FjKYMGLRdkI

[TheGreatYacht]

US Government Is Threatening To Attack Iran Using Evidence-Free Allegations & Propaganda, Again

https://youtu.be/4UUu899vxUY

[TheGreatYacht]

US Deployed 14k Troops In Middle East To "Counter Iran" & Says Unproven Aramco Attack 'Act Of War'

https://youtu.be/X4WU3Ad4mVk

[TheGreatYacht]

US Gov Report Saying It Cannot Prove Iran Attacked The Saudis Is Put Forward As Proof Iran Did It (Part 1)

https://youtu.be/fl2qj-H92cs
US Claims Iran Sending Weapons To Afghanistan, Provides No Evidence (Part 2)

https://youtu.be/lSPGHO7gqpI

[TheGreatYacht]

US Government Claims Of "Proof" Iran Attacked Aramco Directly Challenged By The UN For The 2nd Time

https://youtu.be/8BvWO50gaaQ

[TheGreatYacht]

Israel Says It Will Now Target “State Structures” & “Populated Areas” Anywhere Iran Is Allowed To Be

https://youtu.be/TeXtr9HXhz0
Iran Seizes US-Made Weapons Smuggled In For Manufacturing Regime Change

https://youtu.be/0HgT9homqL0

[spurraider21]

US Government Claims Of "Proof" Iran Attacked Aramco Directly Challenged By The UN For The 2nd Time
The UN? Don't you mean... the JEW N?

[Chris]

"America cannot do a damn thing to us" -Imam Khomeini

lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

War with Iran = nuclear war with Russia

[Winehole23]

War with Iran = nuclear war with RussiaHow so?

[Winehole23]

Iranian cyber warfare, assassination of US officials, and terrorist attacks on people and oil infrastructure wouldn't be surprising. We won't get a pass for killing a top government official.

[Chris]

top government official aka terrorist mastermind

austere religous scholar

[Millennial_Messiah]

How so?

Slippery slope...

- US kills top Iranian official (... Archduke Ferdinand of Austria anyone...?)
- Iran buys nukes from Russia
- Iran pulverizes Tel Aviv et al with nukes
- US coalition pulverizes Tehran et al with nukes
- Russia launches nukes at Europe and US eastern seaboard
- US retaliates with the same
- .... what happens about China? Japan? The Korea's?

[FlAVaK]

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[CosmicCowboy]

Iranian cyber warfare, assassination of US officials, and terrorist attacks on people and oil infrastructure wouldn't be surprising. We won't get a pass for killing a top government official.

No shit. That was a stupid escalation.

[baseline bum]

No shit. That was a stupid escalation.

This was always a matter of when and not if once our Dear Leader got into power.

[Trill Clinton]

Another potential war huh. I thought this clown campaigned on ending wars and the economic consequences that come with them.

[Trill Clinton]

260421157201784832

:wakeup

[Winehole23]

Another potential war huh. I thought this clown campaigned on ending wars and the economic consequences that come with them.Trump is a man bereft of values, except to honor himself. He will say anything at all to advance his own prospects.

[Splits]

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[Winehole23]

No shit. That was a stupid escalation.Yep. The 2003 invasion, hate to say it, was better planned. There was even a months long disinformation campaign waged to get the public on board.

[TheGreatYacht]

Yep. The 2003 invasion, hate to say it, was better planned. There was even a months long disinformation campaign waged to get the public on board.

But Trump knows that his Trumptard base will go along with anything he says or does. Just look at DarrinS, DMC and Chris. CIA and Deepstate good now.

Waiting for koriwhat and all the other conservatives on this forum to jump on board with the Zionist and neocon war mongering agenda cuz Trump said so.

[boutons_deux]

Mike Pompeo admits on live TV there was no threat to the American homeland from Suleimani


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/mike-pompeo-admits-on-live-tv-there-was-no-threat-to-the-american-homeland-from-suleimani/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3369

[boutons_deux]

Trump slammed for confusing morning tweet on Soleimani killing

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Screen-Shot-2019-11-21-at-6.58.25-AM.png


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... causing lots of angry, confused tweets, evan a call for the 25th Amenment.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-slammed-for-confusing-morning-tweet-on-soleimani-killing/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3369

[boutons_deux]

Hear Donald Trump bluff his way through 2015 interview on Iran’s Soleimani:

‘You’re asking me gotcha questions’

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/hear-donald-trump-bluff-his-way-through-2015-interview-on-irans-soleimani-youre-asking-me-gotcha-questions/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3369 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/hear-donald-trump-bluff-his-way-through-2015-interview-on-irans-soleimani-youre-asking-me-gotcha-questions/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3369)

[boutons_deux]

Ex-Trump official calls BS on Pompeo’s claim that Suleimani killing makes the world ‘safer’

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/ex-trump-official-calls-bs-on-pompeos-claim-that-suleimani-killing-makes-the-world-safer/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3369 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/ex-trump-official-calls-bs-on-pompeos-claim-that-suleimani-killing-makes-the-world-safer/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3369)

Thanks, Indiana! :lol

Pompeo is the dick-sucking sycophant that Trash deserves.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s order to kill Iran’s Soleimani puts American politicians in danger:

MSNBC’s Morning Joe

this actually moves beyond even the invasion in 2003 of Iraq,

because the United States of America last night,

the president of the United States of America last night decided to assassinate the No. 2 leader in a sovereign nation,”

Iranian leaders now obviously will feel free to do to American leaders.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-order-to-kill-irans-soleimani-puts-american-politicians-in-danger-msnbcs-morning-joe/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-order-to-kill-irans-soleimani-puts-american-politicians-in-danger-msnbcs-morning-joe/)

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Foriegn policy via Presidentially ordered assassination, what could go wrong?