Former Spur Tony Parker Contemplating Retirement

[MoSpur02]

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/former-spur-tony-parker-still-weighing-possible-retirement

[Seventyniner]

Can't say I'm surprised. He got the new experience he wanted, and there isn't really room for him on the Spurs. I still don't see him being willing to take the 3rd-string PG role.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Sean basically announced it way back at Manu's jersey retirement.

[Realdeal1]

Link doesn't work

[Mikeanaro]

5 years too late.

[MoSpur02]

Link doesn't work

Sorry. Try this one.

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/former-spur-tony-parker-still-weighing-possible-retirement

[WallyTiger]

Mr.Barry got something to say.

[RD2191]

I'll never have love for TP like I do TD and Manu, he never should've gone to Charlotte. Fuck him.

[Mugen]

Time to head to that big open farm in the countryside, Porky.

[Joseph Kony]

rather have him than mills

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

I hope he does retire and they conduct a nice ceremony next season for his Jersey being raised to the rafters.

Hopefully the fans at the arena will not be dicks and show him the proper respect he earned while in the black and silver.

[slick'81]

rather have him than mills


Yet here we are

[TDomination]

If he does, he should've retired last year as a spur. It was sad to see him play with another team.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Hopefully Pop rewards him with a 3 year loyalty contract, $10 million per, 3rd year team option.

[K...]

Obviously after his injury it was mainly willpower leading him back. I think Charlotte will obviously not be the same, and moving 3 times in 3 years isn't appealing . Great career regardless.

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs should trade Mills, then sign Parker for vet minimum to be the 3rd string PG and mentor the young kids. This team could need some of that Big 3 aura around just to gel better. Let him retire in 2020 as a Spur

[MoSpur02]

Spurs should trade Mills, then sign Parker for vet minimum to be the 3rd string PG and mentor the young kids. This team could need some of that Big 3 aura around just to gel better. Let him retire in 2020 as a Spur

Not a bad idea, but I doubt it happens since Brent Barry is part of the front office.

[Play Boban]

Porker ruined his legacy by turning his back on the Spurs to go to a third rate franchise in Charlotte. F him tbh.

[K...]

Porker ruined his legacy by turning his back on the Spurs to go to a third rate franchise in Charlotte. F him tbh.

Nah

[Pavlov]

Porker ruined his legacy by turning his back on the Spurs to go to a third rate franchise in Charlotte. F him tbh.Could be the Euroguay MVP.

[TDomination]

Spurs should trade Mills, then sign Parker for vet minimum to be the 3rd string PG and mentor the young kids. This team could need some of that Big 3 aura around just to gel better. Let him retire in 2020 as a Spur

Seriously speaking, i wouldn't mind this.
Timvp talks about how Parker actually had a decent year.
Yeah he's not 3 pt threat but neither is Mills lol. Parker has the higher bball IQ. Mills doesn't even know what time it is. And being battle tested and seeing it all and go knowing what it takes to get through it, it would be nice for him to truly be a mentor to our young guys. Walker/White/Murray/Forbes and whatever rookies we get.
Honestly, i would take it in a heartbeat.

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs retire coat riders numbers, nothing to see here....

[Kurgan]

I'll never have love for TP like I do TD and Manu, he never should've gone to Charlotte. Fuck him.

Tarnished his legacy, all because he had no interest in being paid to mentor the new generation. Meanwhile, TD and Manu are retired and still show up to the Spurs facility to train with the team and teach the new guys.

[K...]

Parker stays with Spurs "dude is too jealous, drove kl away, won't share minutes, plz pay Patty, tosb, I want Parker leave"

Parker leaves as free agent " dude is too jealous, he needs to baby sit,"

[spursistan]

rather have him than mills

[timvp]

Spurs win Game 7 by 20 if they had Parker instead of Mills, tbh.

[GusT15]

If he promises to not draft/sign only French players,i want him to take over from RC in the FO tbh

A dude so ruthless to cuckold his own teammate is Front Office material

[RD2191]

Parker stays with Spurs "dude is too jealous, drove kl away, won't share minutes, plz pay Patty, tosb, I want Parker leave"

Parker leaves as free agent " dude is too jealous, he needs to baby sit,"

Parker has just always been too douchey for my liking. Something about him has always rubbed me the wrong way.

[SpurPadre]

I'll never have love for TP like I do TD and Manu, he never should've gone to Charlotte. Fuck him.

He wanted to be able to say he fucked MJ's wife, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

Parker has just always been too douchey for my liking. Something about him has always rubbed me the wrong way.

He rubbed Erin the right way, tbh.

[RD2191]

He rubbed Erin the right way, tbh.

:lol

[Dverde]

Not easy going from Head of the snake to the back of the line. I still think he should go overseas for a year and get one last big paycheck. He could still put up 20 ppg in those Chinese leagues.

[SpurPadre]

If Manu doesn't want to be a coach, then I want TP to be Pop's heir-apparent. Isn't he owner of a team in France still? Parker wouldn't put up with bullshit from players. Then again, I could picture him in postgame interviews asking opposing coaches why they're leaving his players wide open.

[timtonymanu]

rather have him than mills

[SpursforSix]

Spurs should trade Mills, then sign Parker for vet minimum to be the 3rd string PG and mentor the young kids. This team could need some of that Big 3 aura around just to gel better. Let him retire in 2020 as a Spur

I never got the talk about Tony being a mentor. At least not for on the court stuff. He wasn't a great point guard in terms of distribution. It's not like he was a prototypical PG that was the floor general. He made his living by being quicker than anyone else on the court. It's not really something he can pass on. And imo, certainly not worth taking up a bench spot.

[lefty]

Jealous of Kemba tbh

[SpurPadre]

Jealous of Kemba tbh

He never understood why teams always leave Kemba open, tbh.

[DAF86]

Should have done it last offseason. Only thing he gained was tainting (just a bit) a great career by playing for another team and missing the playoffs for the first time.

If the most loyal franchise in sports didn't want you back, you should have realized you were done, tbh.

[K...]

Should have done it last offseason. Only thing he gained was tainting (just a bit) a great career by playing for another team and missing the playoffs for the first time.

If the most loyal franchise in sports didn't want you back, you should have realized you were done, tbh.

The Spurs did want him back? They were honest about his playing time, and he chose to leave for more playing time.

[HarlemHeat37]

Love TP, but these last few years slightly changed the way I look at him..

Running Kawhi out of town was one thing, but then going to Charlotte? Where they ultimately benched him? Ugh..he should have been on the Spurs bench mentoring White and Forbes, while cheering for Patty..

[Dennis the Menace]

rather have him than mills

Patty “no pressure to perform” Mills

[DAF86]

The Spurs did want him back? They were honest about his playing time, and he chose to leave for more playing time.

Which was their subtle way of saying "we don't want you back". Spurs were never not going to offer Tony a contract if he wanted back, offering him a smaller contract and a lesser role was their way of saying "you are a legend and will always be welcomed, but we don't rate you as a player anymore".

[slick'81]

Hang em up hof'er time to retire

[DJR210]

Spurs win Game 7 by 20 if they had Parker instead of Mills, tbh.

You damn right

[JeffDuncan]

Whatever Parker does, I wish him well. He played some great games for the Spurs, and great seasons.

[slick'81]

You damn right


Lack of leadership cost us in that game

[timvp]

Parker ended up being right that he wasn't done. He had his best season since 2014. It would have been dumb to retire when he can still play as well as he played. Too bad the Spurs overpaid Mills after Parker suffered what appeared to be a career-ending injury. When you are stuck with Mills and your two best young players are PGs, something had to give.

"Legacy ruining" is only something wonderbread fans care about and pointlessly ponder. In the real world, Parker proved he could still play while making a few more million. Good choice signing with Charlotte :tu

[slick'81]

Parker ended up being right that he wasn't done. He had his best season since 2014. It would have been dumb to retire when he can still play as well as he played. Too bad the Spurs overpaid Mills after Parker suffered what appeared to be a career-ending injury. When you are stuck with Mills and your two best young players are PGs, something had to give.

"Legacy ruining" is only something wonderbread fans care about and pointlessly ponder. In the real world, Parker proved he could still play while making a few more million. Good choice signing with Charlotte :tu


I feel he still has another good season in him but wont find the min he wants elsehwere

[DAF86]

Parker ended up being right that he wasn't done. He had his best season since 2014. It would have been dumb to retire when he can still play as well as he played. Too bad the Spurs overpaid Mills after Parker suffered what appeared to be a career-ending injury. When you are stuck with Mills and your two best young players are PGs, something had to give.

"Legacy ruining" is only something wonderbread fans care about and pointlessly ponder. In the real world, Parker proved he could still play while making a few more million. Good choice signing with Charlotte :tu

Proved he can still play by being cut from the rotation of a lottery team in the East. :lol

Parker has been done since that injury, tbh.

[ducks]

Spurs win Game 7 by 20 if they had Parker instead of Mills, tbh.

yep FUCK MILLS

[RD2191]

Love TP, but these last few years slightly changed the way I look at him..

Running Kawhi out of town was one thing, but then going to Charlotte? Where they ultimately benched him? Ugh..he should have been on the Spurs bench mentoring White and Forbes, while cheering for Patty..

HH dropping truth nukes

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Should've retired after 14'. He did nothing but hurt the spurs since then :lol legend though for sure

[gambit1990]

Spurs win Game 7 by 20 if they had Parker instead of Mills, tbh.
someone’s confusing tony with manu.

[timvp]

someone’s confusing tony with manu.

Last time the Spurs won a Game 7 on the road, it was Parker leading the way, tbh. Duncan and Ginobili were 0-for-12 in the final 19 minutes.

[J_Paco]

Parker stays with Spurs "dude is too jealous, drove kl away, won't share minutes, plz pay Patty, tosb, I want Parker leave"

Parker leaves as free agent " dude is too jealous, he needs to baby sit,"

Exactly, they spin the narrative to suit their constant, unyielding hatred of Tony.

SMDH

I want him to go for that 20th season mark, but he does have young kids and the 20 seasons isn't as special (since he left).

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Last time the Spurs won a Game 7 on the road, it was Parker leading the way, tbh. Duncan and Ginobili were 0-for-12 in the final 19 minutes.

We all know it would've been game 7 2015 Parker bro..

[DJR210]

Cucking your teammates > Drinking Coffee

[Strategic]

Pawn Patty and I’d welcome Tony back for the 3rd point guard chair. Hell I’d even give him a shot at grandma and let him find out where a real man goes.

[timvp]

We all know it would've been game 7 2015 Parker bro..

True. 20 points, five rebounds and five assists sounds about right, tbh.

[gambit1990]

good thing tony knows his level of play better than timvp.

if tony was really anywhere near as good this past season as timvp likes to think then there's no way he'd be contemplating retirement.

[gambit1990]

for tp it's:
-retirement
-very limited PT with CHA
-possibly less limited PT with some other scrub team

[Cane]

Mmm shooting 26% from 3, keep cashing those checks Porker

But at least he'll have more time for pool parties now that he won't have to spend so much time practicing his game :eyebrows

[Floyd Pacquiao]

True. 20 points, five rebounds and five assists sounds about right, tbh.

Oh wow I just remember him getting torched by Jamal Crawford in game 7. Too bad he was the worst guard on the floor games 1-6

[GreekSpursfan]

Spurs win Game 7 by 20 if they had Parker instead of Mills, tbh.

Hmm, No, unless you mean instead of D.White who was even worse than Mills.

[dbreiden83080]

100% should have retired when he was done in SA..

[XDT76]

Maybe we can trade Mills for Parker and Miles Bridge?

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Spurs should trade Mills, then sign Parker for vet minimum to be the 3rd string PG and mentor the young kids. This team could need some of that Big 3 aura around just to gel better. Let him retire in 2020 as a Spur

Agreed

[timvp]

good thing tony knows his level of play better than timvp.

What happened to the CP3 avatar, tbh? :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Would have probably done a better job than Mills this year.

[ducks]

Last time the Spurs won a Game 7 on the road, it was Parker leading the way, tbh. Duncan and Ginobili were 0-for-12 in the final 19 minutes.
Ding ding ding we have a winner

[Play Boban]

Last time the Spurs won a Game 7 on the road, it was Parker leading the way, tbh. Duncan and Ginobili were 0-for-12 in the final 19 minutes.

tbh Manu outscored Tony 26-17 in game 7 against NOLA in 2008 per par.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

The mature Tony Parker always had a calming influence on the offense, made sure players were in the right spots, and found the open man. Patty Mills sometimes looks like he's point guard for the YMCA men's team when he's ruining the point. Overpaying Patty was one of the FO's biggest mistakes, along with a loyalty contract for an over-the-hill Spanish center who never did anything for the franchise yet was paid more by the Spurs than Tim Duncan was at the same age.

I'm still pissed we let Tony walk while overpaying those other two bozos.

[RC_Drunkford]

I never got the talk about Tony being a mentor. At least not for on the court stuff. He wasn't a great point guard in terms of distribution. It's not like he was a prototypical PG that was the floor general. He made his living by being quicker than anyone else on the court. It's not really something he can pass on. And imo, certainly not worth taking up a bench spot.

He was a score first PG but he was the floor general and knows all the plays Pop likes to run and knows the spots every player has to be in. This being a new team, a lot of people on our roster don't have that knowledge. Read some of those Kemba Walker interviews, he was schooling the entire Hornets team about plays

[superbigtime]

The mature Tony Parker always had a calming influence on the offense, made sure players were in the right spots, and found the open man. Patty Mills sometimes looks like he's point guard for the YMCA men's team when he's ruining the point. Overpaying Patty was one of the FO's biggest mistakes, along with a loyalty contract for an over-the-hill Spanish center who never did anything for the franchise yet was paid more by the Spurs than Tim Duncan was at the same age.

I'm still pissed we let Tony walk while overpaying those other two bozos.

bingo

[TheGreatYacht]

Proved he can still play by being cut from the rotation of a lottery team in the East. :lol

Parker has been done since that injury, tbh.
The 9 fingered Lithuanian got cut from the rotation as well :lol does that mean he's done as well or are we playing favorites?

[DAF86]

The 9 fingered Lithuanian got cut from the rotation as well :lol does that mean he's done as well or are we playing favorites?

Bertans wasn't cut from the rotation during the regular season. He was cut from the Denver series, had Spurs won, Pop would have reinserted him against Portland.

I still think Bertans should have been seeing minutes over Belinelli or Mills, but I digress.

[TheGreatYacht]

What happened to the CP3 avatar, tbh? :lol
You're talking to the last remaining member of the Start Fatty Mills crew icydk.... His player evaluation is down there with that special needs poster dabom who's on his 7th account now.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bertans wasn't cut from the rotation during the regular season. He was cut from the Denver series, had Spurs won, Pop would have reinserted him against Portland.

I still think Bertans should have been seeing minutes over Belinelli or Mills, but I digress.
Parker got cut from the rotation because Borrego thought the season was over and wanted to give the younger guys minutes. Bertans got the doghouse because Pop wanted to win. Period.

Hornets had a better record when Parker played. Spurs had a better record when Bertans wasn't a starter and was a garbage time player. These are the facts man.

[DAF86]

Parker got cut from the rotation because Borrego thought the season was over and wanted to give the younger guys minutes. Bertans got the doghouse because Pop wanted to win. Period.

Hornets had a better record when Parker played. Spurs had a better record when Bertans wasn't a starter and was a garbage time player. These are the facts man.

Link? All I saw, was a Hornets' team fighting for a playoffs' spot untill the final game, and Parker not being part of it.

[timvp]

You're talking to the last remaining member of the Start Fatty Mills crew icydk.... His player evaluation is down there with that special needs poster dabom who's on his 7th account now.

Explains a lot. Then again, I'd rather have Mills at $15 million than CP3 at $40 million. And to be fair, I'd scrub that CP3 avatar too :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Link? All I saw, was a Hornets' team fighting for a playoffs' spot untill the final game, and Parker not being part of it.
Here you go, a hornets forum. https://swarmandsting.com/2019/04/08/charlotte-hornets-tony-parker-apart-rotation/

If you weren't a bias Manu fan, you would've noticed by the many times Parker threads were bumped during the season that Parker had his best year since 2014. He won the Hornets 5-10 games that they would've lost if scrubs like Mills or Graham were in his spot. If you combine Manu's highest scoring games of his last 2-3 seasons, Parker probably matched them this season. Hornets fans on Reddit even said he has been their best FA signing in 5 years... you won't see a poster here or on Reddit other than yourself say that about Bertans $7M/ per deal. Ever.

[DAF86]

Here you go, a hornets forum. https://swarmandsting.com/2019/04/08/charlotte-hornets-tony-parker-apart-rotation/

If you weren't a bias Manu fan, you would've noticed by the many times Parker threads were bumped during the season that Parker had his best year since 2014. He won the Hornets 5-10 games that they would've lost if scrubs like Mills or Graham were in his spot. If you combine Manu's highest scoring games of his last 2-3 seasons, Parker probably matched them this season. Hornets fans on Reddit even said he has been their best FA signing in 5 years... you won't see a poster here or on Reddit other than yourself say that about Bertans $7M/ per deal. Ever.

Where in there says that Borrego benched Parker because he thought the season was over?

And yeah, I have followed Parker's performance all season long (via box-score watching mostly because I don't get many Hornets' games down here and I wasn't going to stream fucking Hornets' games) and I noticed he was never as good as people were making it seem here. I just didn't say anything because I didn't care for calling out Tony for poor play when that play isn't affecting the Spurs, tbh. If you check his metrics, Tony has been a net negative player all across the board, except for defensive on/off for some reason (I Guess Kemba really sucks on defense) :lol

There's a reason Tony is contempleting retirement despite being on contract and being so vocal about the fact of wanting to play 20 seasons, tbh. And that reason is that he realizes he isn't as good as he needs to be to have the type of role he wants on this part of his career.

[spursistan]

You're talking to the last remaining member of the Start Fatty Mills crew icydk.... His player evaluation is down there with that special needs poster dabom who's on his 7th account now.
:lol

[timvp]

I will never understand Manu Fan's incessant and undying hate of Parker. Good friends, will still be good friends 30 years from now, neither was ever jealous of the other, both got a similar amount of spotlight, both had their highs and lows, both had times when they were underrated and overrated, both going to the Hall of Fame.

Unfortunately, it appears as if similar battle lines are being drawn for White and Murray. I guess it might not be Manu Fan; might be Spur Fan in general.

[daslicer]

I will never understand Manu Fan's incessant and undying hate of Parker. Good friends, will still be good friends 30 years from now, neither was ever jealous of the other, both got a similar amount of spotlight, both had their highs and lows, both had times when they were underrated and overrated, both going to the Hall of Fame.

Unfortunately, it appears as if similar battle lines are being drawn for White and Murray. I guess it might not be Manu Fan; might be Spur Fan in general.

Agreed. I never liked one better than the other. I liked both equally. Always though both were equal in the sense that they took turns being the second option for Duncan.

[ElNono]

I will never understand Manu Fan's incessant and undying hate of Parker. Good friends, will still be good friends 30 years from now, neither was ever jealous of the other, both got a similar amount of spotlight, both had their highs and lows, both had times when they were underrated and overrated, both going to the Hall of Fame.

Unfortunately, it appears as if similar battle lines are being drawn for White and Murray. I guess it might not be Manu Fan; might be Spur Fan in general.

Yeah, I don't get it either, tbh.

[ElNono]

Long overdue decision, IMO. Should've happened back in 2015, after trying to defend the championship.

At least those that were extremely alarmed when he said he wanted to play until he was 40, and rightly so, can sleep better at night now.

Had a great career, and it's time to raise that jersey on the rafters, next to Bowen and Avery.

[DAF86]

I will never understand Manu Fan's incessant and undying hate of Parker. Good friends, will still be good friends 30 years from now, neither was ever jealous of the other, both got a similar amount of spotlight, both had their highs and lows, both had times when they were underrated and overrated, both going to the Hall of Fame.

Unfortunately, it appears as if similar battle lines are being drawn for White and Murray. I guess it might not be Manu Fan; might be Spur Fan in general.

I don't know if it's referred to me but I have never been a Tony hater, tbh. I have always given him props when props were warranted. And I'm not hating him now either, I'm just calling it how I see it, just like I do with everyother player. I'm not an Aldridge and DeRozan hater either, for example, I'm just not that high on their games.

You can't say someone is a hater for saying "player X isn't that good of a player" when all objective metrics support that claim, tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

Where in there says that Borrego benched Parker because he thought the season was over?

And yeah, I have followed Parker's performance all season long (via box-score watching mostly because I don't get many Hornets' games down here and I wasn't going to stream fucking Hornets' games) and I noticed he was never as good as people were making it seem here. I just didn't say anything because I didn't care for calling out Tony for poor play when that play isn't affecting the Spurs, tbh. If you check his metrics, Tony has been a net negative player all across the board, except for defensive on/off for some reason (I Guess Kemba really sucks on defense) :lol

There's a reason Tony is contempleting retirement despite being on contract and being so vocal about the fact of wanting to play 20 seasons, tbh. And that reason is that he realizes he isn't as good as he needs to be to have the type of role he wants on this part of his career.
It was so obvious he was benched because they wanted to go younger. Every one but Manu fans with an agenda see that.

His last two games played before the DNP's:
At WAS: 16PTS, 3AST, 7/12fg, 2/3 3p in 14 minutes
At MIA: 11PTS, 4/5fg, 1/2 3p in 17 minutes

Do those games justify being benched for the remainder of the season? Tell me with a straight face.

Also lol at judging him because of his advanced stats. Same numbers show Derrick White isn't a good defender, and say Kaw hi has been a 0.0 defensively in the playoffs despite neutralizing Simmons. Not even going to mention how much those numbers made by nerds who wanted an impact in basketball loved Pau Gasol over the last two years :lmao

[gambit1990]

What happened to the CP3 avatar, tbh? :lol
my avatar is still of cp3. he's a dead man walking now...

[spurs10]

I will never understand Manu Fan's incessant and undying hate of Parker. Good friends, will still be good friends 30 years from now, neither was ever jealous of the other, both got a similar amount of spotlight, both had their highs and lows, both had times when they were underrated and overrated, both going to the Hall of Fame.

Unfortunately, it appears as if similar battle lines are being drawn for White and Murray. I guess it might not be Manu Fan; might be Spur Fan in general. Yes it's pretty daft being a huge fan of one and not the other considering they did most everything (insert air quotes) "together," sans their National team efforts.

It's like John and Paul...yeah you might have a favorite, but they were in the @$%#ing Beatles together! :lol

[gambit1990]

and yeah, patty should've started over tony when kawhi was here. the whole point was so that the ball would be in kawhi's hands more. with that being said, i was always fine with trading tony and patty.

[gambit1990]

His last two games played before the DNP's:
At WAS: 16PTS, 3AST, 7/12fg, 2/3 3p in 14 minutes
At MIA: 11PTS, 4/5fg, 1/2 3p in 17 minutes
i always said he should go east so he can look good against scrub teams.

[DAF86]

It was so obvious he was benched because they wanted to go younger. Every one but Manu fans with an agenda see that.

His last two games played before the DNP's:
At WAS: 16PTS, 3AST, 7/12fg, 2/3 3p in 14 minutes
At MIA: 11PTS, 4/5fg, 1/2 3p in 17 minutes

Do those games justify being benched for the remainder of the season? Tell me with a straight face.

Also lol at judging him because of his advanced stats. Same numbers show Derrick White isn't a good defender, and say Kaw hi has been a 0.0 defensively in the playoffs despite neutralizing Simmons. Not even going to mention how much those numbers made by nerds who wanted an impact in basketball loved Pau Gasol over the last two years :lmao

Mmh, what? White's DBPM: 1.1

Anyway, of course I'm not saying advanced stats are infallible, but 90% of the time they do tend to paint a pretty accurate picture. Specially when the stats are pretty clear all across the board. Not just one or two tenths either side of the 0.

About the other point, if Parker was benched because Borrego thought the season was over, why didn't he bring Tony back when they were right back into the fight? If Tony really did as well as some of you say, why is he contemplating retirement despite the fact that he would like to keep playing?

[timvp]

my avatar is still of cp3. he's a dead man walking now...


and yeah, patty should've started over tony

https://i.imgur.com/BCLxwxo.gif

[gambit1990]

https://i.imgur.com/BCLxwxo.gif
didn't know you were narcoleptic. here's my post with context, try keeping up this time: and yeah, patty should've started over tony when kawhi was here. the whole point was so that the ball would be in kawhi's hands more. with that being said, i was always fine with trading tony and patty.

[SASdynasty!]

spurs retire coat riders numbers, nothing to see here....
Spurs should only retire FMVPs tbh.

[cjw]

Parker got cut from the rotation because Borrego thought the season was over and wanted to give the younger guys minutes. Bertans got the doghouse because Pop wanted to win. Period.

Hornets had a better record when Parker played. Spurs had a better record when Bertans wasn't a starter and was a garbage time player. These are the facts man.

Half agree.

Parker was fine this season, totally passable as a backup PG. If he wanted to play another year, he could albeit in a minor role.

Bertans was not a garbage time player (22+ mpg). He was leading the league in 3pt% before a slump. Spurs were significantly better during the RS with him on the floor. Denver schemed him off the floor in the series by playing with two bigs. Don’t look anything more into his benching than that.

[weeks]

I just got annoyed from all the parker hate from the fans on this board. It's true that the fans and the city never quite embraced Parker as much as they did Manu and Duncan.
Obviously there's a language reason but also if we're being honest, Parker wasn't quite as likable as Manu ever was. Both were warriors and champions, hall of famers, who got along great and had mutual respect.
It's just that next to Tim and Manu, Parker's character flaws seemed magnified. Bit snootier, French, kind of shitty to flirt with a teammate's wife (I dont think they actually went further than that).
Tony was underappreciated here and some people (you know who they are) refuse to see anything but negative in his time here. Why? Probably because it's reactionary - just like with Kyle Anderson. People hated him not because of him so much but because they were sick of SAGirl and her constant slurping.

For Manu fans it's extra retarded because there was no rivalry between them whatsoever - they didn't play the same position, have the same roles, or really have anything to cause tension between the two.

Parker should have stayed. That is the main reason he'll always be the baby of the big 3 in my mind.

He'll probably retire. Players are usually the last to know when they're washed.

[K...]

No, it's not correct that people love Parker less, civilians in San Antonio love Parker plenty, it's just a certain type of guy is offended by Tony Parker's overt masculine attitude. Scrawny French boy turns into global style icon, all star pg, and shitty rapper and people go nuts. Oh and he had some consensual sex once and everyone here is Brent Barry's bff or something.

People hated Kyle Anderson because he didn't play the way people wanted. Spurstalk wants everyone to be a 6'6' guard who can drive, shoot threes, and dunk. So they overate Jonathan Simmons and get mad at a defense first combo forward who struggles to shoot.

[SpursRussia]

A dream would be to trade Patty for no salary back, even if it takes attaching the 29th pick, sign Tony on a vet min deal to play end of beach PG for 10-12 mins a night and mentor the kids. Plus we should dump Belli. This way we would open cap space for a wing, open the road to youth movement and give Tony an opportunity to properly retire a Spur, as he should being a legend of the franchise.

[weeks]

No, it's not correct that people love Parker less, civilians in San Antonio love Parker plenty, it's just a certain type of guy is offended by Tony Parker's overt masculine attitude. Scrawny French boy turns into global style icon, all star pg, and shitty rapper and people go nuts. Oh and he had some consensual sex once and everyone here is Brent Barry's bff or something.

People hated Kyle Anderson because he didn't play the way people wanted. Spurstalk wants everyone to be a 6'6' guard who can drive, shoot threes, and dunk. So they overate Jonathan Simmons and get mad at a defense first combo forward who struggles to shoot.

i dunno man, crowd reaction to parker and stuff never seemed as strong as it was for manu and timmy
could be confirmation bias idk. never went to a game in person (sad!) and i've only been to san antonio a few times

as far as KA i was more referring to just the ST crowd. a few people seemed to take pleasure in his bad performances because it gave them ammunition to tease SAGirl