WCF: Blazers vs. Warriors

[DC23]

Game time!

[lefty]

Yawn

When do the Bucks Warriors series start?

[DC23]

Both teams changed starting lineups.

[Beartrucci]

I'm at around halfway through 1st quarter. Honestly astounded at the amount of lucky plays GS runs into to keep them close in games. Never seen a team more favored by the bball Gods, but Portland doing plenty of dumb shit too.

[hater]

Never seen so many illegal screen sbeing non called for the showers.

That loony nigga stick his out out more than Tera Patrick

Disgusting officiating

[Beartrucci]

Lillard tripped by Looney on screen. No call. Livingston to bucket minimal contact. Two ft's.

[DC23]

Warriors have been setting illegal screens for 5 years now. Refs never call them.

[Reck]

Blazers need to be up 30 or 40 points to win by 3 or 5 points.

[Beartrucci]

Great D by Collins. Curry dribbles off his foot and ref reacts giving Collins the foul. This shit is just so predictable :lol

[KimmyGib]

Nice adjustment by Stotts to realize a starving, dehydrated Kanter shouldn't be playing big minutes.

[ducks]

This warrior team will get crushed by bucks
They have 40 percent chance with durrant

[ducks]

Lol bell missing wide open dunk

[MultiTroll]

Pretty sure for Bells sake it will end up being a very minor footnote.
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[MultiTroll]

This warrior team will get crushed by bucks
They have 40 percent chance with durrant
WarriorRef is a game changer.

[DC23]

Smh Portland has no defense for Green

[Beartrucci]

WarriorRef is a game changer.

Agreed. Don't agree with everyone thinking Bucks are going to win. Got Warriorefs in 6. They'll let Dray and co. mug Giannis all series.

[Reck]

It's hard to describe how trash this little Blazers team is. Jesus

[DC23]

Never seen a team go through so many stretches of being unable to score. We saw this in Game 2 as well

[Beartrucci]

Kind of funny that the guy in league with 2 series ending buzzer beaters is also one of the biggest playoff chokers.

[Capt Bringdown]

It's hard to describe how trash this little Blazers team is. Jesus

"Dame" hype is so fake it's untrue. Over-rated chucker.

[TDfan2007]

Never seen a team go through so many stretches of being unable to score. We saw this in Game 2 as well

When did you start watching the Spurs? :lol
Early 2000s Spurs were good for one ill-timed drought per game, usually in the second half.

[MultiTroll]

Never seen a team go through so many stretches of being unable to score. We saw this in Game 2 as well
No offensive strategy at all.
Players don't expect or even want the ball. Stand there with it and pause once they do have it.

[RD2191]

Hope Portland comes out strong, wins the game, and makes this a series.

:lol well

[Capt Bringdown]

When did you start watching the Spurs? :lol
Early 2000s Spurs were good for one ill-timed drought per game, usually in the second half.

Agreed, Spurs are/were innovators of the extended scoring drought.

[ducks]

Smh Portland has no defense for Green

Collins needs to foul him hard
Green will get a tech

[Beartrucci]

:lol well

:rollin

[spurs10]

Never seen a team go through so many stretches of being unable to score. We saw this in Game 2 as well Must have missed the 1st quarter of Game 7 Spurs and Nuggets!
:bang

[AlexJones]

Klay Thompson is the most overrated piece of shit player in the NBA

[Capt Bringdown]

Maybe a stand-around and dribble is not an effective offense? Who'd-a-thunk-it?

[AlexJones]

How is it that when Durant isn't there, EVERY scrub on the Warriors plays better? Cook, Livingston, Jerebko.. :lmao

[MultiTroll]

Must have missed the 1st quarter of Game 7 Spurs and Nuggets!
:bang
Does Portland need a Wombat infusion?

[RD2191]

What a pathetic fucking showing by the Blazers.

[ducks]

Klay Thompson is the most overrated piece of shit player in the NBA

Not max player

[Beartrucci]

Looking at box score, what stands out is free throw percentage. Portland 18-28 that's brutal. You have 10 more freethrows to this point and just can't take advantage

[AlexJones]

Not max player

Of course not. But GSW will supermax him anyway. And that's good for the rest of the league.

[Capt Bringdown]

They're gonna sweep these fools.

[baseline bum]

Golden State is so much more fun to watch again without Durant. God I hope he walks this summer.

[timvp]

How is it that when Durant isn't there, EVERY scrub on the Warriors plays better? Cook, Livingston, Jerebko.. :lmao

The scrubs stay involved when Durant is away, tbh. When Durant is there and starts his midrange isolations, that dampens everything.

The best defense against these Warriors is for Durant to think he's hot and start demanding the ball every time up the court . . .

[RD2191]

KDs bum ass getting exposed. :lol

[RD2191]

Garbage ass Blazers. A team finally gets lucky against the Warriors and these fucks are bound to get swept.

[MultiTroll]

Derrr err errrrrr Dubs are doubling Lillard.
Stotts? Clue please?

[DC23]

Must have missed the 1st quarter of Game 7 Spurs and Nuggets!
:bang

Well I meant on a regular basis. Seems like Portland has had many sprints where they just can't execute.

[DC23]

McCollum missed 2 of 3 free throws. Portland has missed 12 free throws

[DC23]

This game is over

[dg7md]

"No Depth" Warriors :lol

Where are you doubters now?

[Capt Bringdown]

"No Depth" Warriors :lol

Where are you doubters now?

Please. Portland sucks balls, it's not as if GS beating a good team.

[timvp]

Derrr err errrrrr Dubs are doubling Lillard.
Stotts? Clue please?

:lol @ thinking coaching could stop the Durant-less Warriors from sweeping the Blazers.

Portland's only chance is if Durant or Cousins comes back for Game 4, tbh.

[140]

Guests found a way to choke even though no one expected them to win the series

[spurs10]

I'm glad they won't let the announcer blow Steph Curry during the game or this would go on forever.

[FkLA]

Durbeta seething right now, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

They can't get 1 game without Durant and Cousins? Wow. One of the worst western conference finals teams ever, tbh.

[timvp]

Warriors in four. If Durant comes back, five games. If Durant and Cousins come back, six games.

I'm sticking with this prediction, tbh.

[ducks]

Portland is going thru motions have quite
Pathetic

[RD2191]

Goes to show how pathetic KDs move was, Dubs about to sweep the WCF without him. :lol

[Laker_1995]

Lmao they don’t need KD

[Capt Bringdown]

They can't get 1 game without Durant and Cousins? Wow. One of the worst western conference finals teams ever, tbh.

Portland scored 30 pts since half-time, LOL

[Capt Bringdown]

Goes to show how pathetic KDs move was, Dubs about to sweep the WCF without him. :lol

Huh? KD's move was pathetic because he joined the team that beat him, not that GS could win without him.

[SpurPadre]

Goes to show how pathetic KDs move was, Dubs about to sweep the WCF without him. :lol

It was a pathetic move, no doubt but this says more about how shitty The Guests are as a Western conference finals team and how far, far away we are from being contenders.

[ducks]

Missing free throws so they lose

[KimmyGib]

My prediction is GS in 5 with Lillard shooting around 30% for the series.

Sticking with this prediction.

[ducks]

If durrant played on the blazers would they win 2 games

[LeGiannis]

Blazers.

[Silver&Black]

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[timvp]

Warriors much better defensively without Durant ... or at least have a lot higher ceiling without him. He's a low IQ defender, which actually exposes Steph's defense because their switches are less coordinated with him on the court. With Durant off the court, you hardly notice Steph's lack of size on the defensive end.

[SpurPadre]

Portland scored 30 pts since half-time, LOL

Lillard choking like his buddy LMA, tbh.

[KimmyGib]

This was a GSW loss if not for the will of Draymond, tbh

[Mitch]

tlongII

[spurs10]

The Blazers should be applauded for not knocking the crap out of Steph Curry.

[ducks]

They need to beat the crap out of green

[TDfan2007]

What an embarrassing loss by the Blazers. This warriors team is in early 2000s Lakers mode. They're supremely confident, with players who know their roles and can handle the pressure. It's been very impressive.

[Capt Bringdown]

This was a GSW loss if not for the will of Draymond, tbh

That, and Portland allowing him to make the same play (driving the ball up the court) over and over and over again without making an adjustment.

[Killakobe81]

What an embarrassing loss by the Blazers. This warriors team is in early 2000s Lakers mode. They're supremely confident, with players who know their roles and can handle the pressure. It's been very impressive.

Its funny if you read the theories floating around that Durant is a pussy, Dray a glorified role player, Klay overrated and Steph a wanbae Kobe how da fuck are they playing like 90s Bulls, 00s Lakers or 80s Celts/Lakers.
Gotta give them credit for sustained greatness.
Draymond Klay Steph and Iggy along with Kerr are the constants.

That being said, Go bucks.. Doubt they beat Dubs but tired of these dudes wining... Unless it convinces Kai he needs to squad up with Bron...

[KimmyGib]

:lol at all the post game commentary throwing Cousins name into the conversation as if he matters at all.

[Killakobe81]

Iggy hurt tho

[DC23]

Iggy hurt tho
This is true.

[Barfunk]

Huh? KD's move was pathetic because he joined the team that beat him, not that GS could win without him.

It was pathetic for both of those reasons.

[polandprzem]

What a bad play by Portland. Absolutely awful. Not only they gave up transition points but they are making fundamental mistakes. How can't you stop ball from the get go. Off rebs or after made basket? That's crucial vs GS. Also they can't dictate tempo of the game. Lilard is no very good at it. You just need to control the tempo vs GS. Stots should fire himself for not making any adjustments on traps. He and Lil and Cj should all wave the white flag and not participate in game 4. Crazy how Kerr can play all his bench and with bad game can win vs Portland. You just need to make a trap and spread guys on 2-3 disadvantage. Por bigs are not capable of capitalize on it. All those back door cuts and baits /Klay and Steph/ on off ball switches. Come on. Old GS playbook.

[polandprzem]

btw. level of basketball dropped in this finals

[dbestpro]

Portland does not belong in the finals. Basketball is not very good these days, thus the lack of competitive teams.

[LkrFan]

A Guest thread: 1129976547140673536
:lol

[Capt Bringdown]

GS injures opponent...again.


Damian Lillard reportedly playing with separated ribs (https://www.nba.com/article/2019/05/19/report-damian-lillard-separated-ribs)

The star guard appeared to have suffered the injury in Game 2 after Warriors center Kevon Looney landed on top of him and rolled over during a loose-ball scramble.

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[vonilom]

When was the last time both teams swept the Conference Finals? Milwaukee is still far from achieving that, but after tonight it could be a real possibility.

[LeGiannis]

GS injures opponent...again.



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Next target identified: Giannis.

[MultiTroll]

GS injures opponent...again.



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Fucking A. Nice find.
Explains in some part what came down with Lillard in Game 3.

[MultiTroll]

Next target identified: Giannis.
Oh fuck guaranteed.
Only question is will Donkey or another Golden Phaggot be the cheapshotter.

[Beartrucci]

Separated ribs hurt like a motherfucker. Happened to me in junior high football :lol

Kind of a convenient excuse for Dame, though. Man is he a trash playoff performer

[LeGiannis]

Oh fuck guaranteed.
Only question is will Donkey or another Golden Phaggot be the cheapshotter.

Kawhi knows what's coming lol. That's why he is probly glad the Raptors are losing. He needs to preserve his ankles and ACL for this summer's max contract.

[313]

Man is he a trash playoff performer?

[spurraider21]

That’s not a dirty play imo

[lefty]

GS injures opponent...again.



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Lol that wasn’t on purpose

[DC23]

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1130174766369845249

[MultiTroll]

Lol that wasn’t on purpose
Bullshit.
The way he uses his weight the way NFL linemen used to be able to do when they KNEW they were going to land on the QB.

He sees good and f-ing well where he is going to land and goes into sandbag mode.

[lefty]

Bullshit.
The way he uses his weight the way NFL linemen used to be able to do when they KNEW they were going to land on the QB.

He sees good and f-ing well where he is going to land and goes into sandbag mode.
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[Capt Bringdown]

Lol that wasn’t on purpose

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[Clipper Nation]

Durbeta's starting to get sensitive over how they keep winning without him :lol

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[lefty]

Lol KD can’t even read without Curry

[phxspurfan]

Durbeta's starting to get sensitive over how they keep winning without him :lol

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https://www.merriam-webster.com/assets/mw/images/article/art-wap-article-main/[email protected]

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Dude's out here getting trolled by Chris Broussard right now. Chris Broussard.

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[lefty]

:lol Durbeta

[Jonnyblue19]

:lol Dude's out here getting trolled by Chris Broussard right now. Chris Broussard.

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I can't believe he is still responding to people on social media? Is he ever going to learn? And this clown wants to go to New York? They media will destroy him.

[Jonnyblue19]

Iggy is out, if Portland can't win this game they should all just retire.

[DC23]

Iggy is out, if Portland can't win this game they should all just retire.
tbh Portland is probably going to mail it in

[Jonnyblue19]

tbh Portland is probably going to mail it in

The sad thing is probably true.

[Beartrucci]

:lol no WAY that's a continuation

[HarlemHeat37]

Blazers with horrible body language..probably getting blown out if they're down by more than a few possessions after this quarter..

[HarlemHeat37]

Nurkic is one of the most underrated players in the league, he made this Blazers defense look competent:lol

[KimmyGib]

Looks like Kevon Looney finally got a railroad track built over the canyon.

[spurraider21]

meyers leonard gonna drop 50 today tbh :lol

[Capt Bringdown]

Blazers look like they smoked out before the game. Pretty chill for a do or die situation.

[DC23]

meyers leonard gonna drop 50 today tbh :lol
Seems like it. His value has gone up considerably these last 2 games lol

[HarlemHeat37]

:lmao Meyers Leonard giving hope to white Americans all over the country..

Good adjustment by Stotts against the trap..it's too bad he might be the worst defender in the NBA, though..

[Jonnyblue19]

What is up with Dame and these sloppy passes?

[Beartrucci]

Curry is just unreal

Weird looking clear path call. Dame messes up again

[DC23]

M. Leonard for MVP?

[Capt Bringdown]

Terrible call.

[DC23]

8-0 run by Curry in 28 seconds.

[Jonnyblue19]

Terrible call.

Definitely, but Dame shouldn't have fouled him since they were in the bonus. I think he is trying to lose the game on purpose.

[MultiTroll]

WarriorRef steppin up before the half.

[spurraider21]

:lmao Meyers Leonard giving hope to white Americans all over the country..

Good adjustment by Stotts against the trap..it's too bad he might be the worst defender in the NBA, though..
knew you'd be melting down over that :lol

[phxspurfan]

Curry so much better w/o KD

[HarlemHeat37]

Portland just lost like 8 points with that disastrous finish to the half..

I don't know if it's Lillard himself or Terry Stotts or both, but he needs to spend all off-season studying tape on handling traps..Pelicans did the exact same shit..

[Beartrucci]

8-0 run by Curry in 28 seconds.

Maybe Timvp is onto something ranking him best bball player on Earth :lol

[phxspurfan]

WarriorRef steppin up before the half.

I dunno...a lot seemed legit calls. They even called random 4 step travel on Klay. I think the Blazers are just finding ways to shit on themselves

[KimmyGib]

8-0 run by Curry in 28 seconds.

with credit to lillard for the assist

[MultiTroll]

I dunno...a lot seemed legit calls. They even called random 4 step travel on Klay. I think the Blazers are just finding ways to shit on themselves
Oh I missed all but the last 3 minutes.
Wow called a travel on one of the Twink Twins. That is super rare.

[HarlemHeat37]

knew you'd be melting down over that :lol

Nah, I'm happy for the fans, they're cheering harder than they did for Lillard's game winner:lol

No matter the year, nothing makes basketball fans in attendance happier than a white American playing well..

[Jonnyblue19]

Portland just lost like 8 points with that disastrous finish to the half..

I don't know if it's Lillard himself or Terry Stotts or both, but he needs to spend all off-season studying tape on handling traps..Pelicans did the exact same shit..

I have never seen a point guard that is supposedly that good, just throw passes so nonchalant. And what is worse no one is calling him out on it.

[Capt Bringdown]

Blazers closing out quarters Spurs-style.

[DC23]

Portland just lost like 8 points with that disastrous finish to the half..

I don't know if it's Lillard himself or Terry Stotts or both, but he needs to spend all off-season studying tape on handling traps..Pelicans did the exact same shit..
Good point re: Pelicans sweep. You're right about the traps. The average NBA fan wouldn't have recognized that.

[spurraider21]

KD busting a nut tbh

[gambit1990]

how long is iggy out for?

[DC23]

9-0 run the last 1:20 smh

[DC23]

how long is iggy out for?
Game 1 of the NBA Finals

[Jonnyblue19]

I can't believe when Golden States goes to trap Dame, Dame goes and picks up his dribble. It's like he is so afraid of the double team.

[Jonnyblue19]

9-0 run the last 1:20 smh

This team has no idea how to execute at the end of quarters

[DC23]

I can't believe when Golden States goes to trap Dame, Dame goes to pick up his dribble. It's like he is so afraid of the double team.
The problem is neither Lillard nor McCollum are point guards. They are both 6"3 (too short) and not great passers. Even if they are able to successfully pass out of the trap Harkless and Aminu can't play make (scoring or passing). Nurkic is a great passer and play maker and would have been very impactful this series.

[Capt Bringdown]

Portland is pathetic.

[Arcadian]

Sweep still possible

[davethedope]

Can't say the refs didn't try... But Dame... I swear I forgot there are still fuckers out there that end up on the floor after every. Single. Play.

[Jonnyblue19]

Wow, they are about to be swept. Can't believe Denver lost to these clowns!

[KimmyGib]

worst team to make wcf since...

[timvp]

:lmao Kevin Durant

[Capt Bringdown]

Portland doesn't have a center or power forward. They are purpose-built for getting swept by GS.

[lefty]

worst team to make wcf since...

2007 Jazz

[MultiTroll]

Worst NBA coach with a large lead:
Craig Popplevich or Terry Stotts?

[timvp]

worst team to make wcf since...

'77 Blazers, tnbh.

[Jonnyblue19]

Worst NBA coach with a large lead:
Craig Popplevich or Terry Stotts?

Pop lost to Denver who lost to Portland

[Budkin]

RIP Guests

[Budkin]

:lmao Kevin Durant

Seriously... this is killing his "legacy."

[Jonnyblue19]

Give the ball to CJ, Dame has been horrible

[KimmyGib]

Oscar Meyers scared to shoot

[Jonnyblue19]

Of course Dame misses

[Jonnyblue19]

CJ has been better the whole series but they keep going to Dame to misses like usual

[KimmyGib]

terrible 4th quarter for lillard

[Jonnyblue19]

terrible 4th quarter for lillard

And Stotts kept going to him even though CJ and Hood were playing well.

[Will Hunting]

CJ has been better the whole series but they keep going to Dame to misses like usual
They should be going to whichever one is being guarded by Curry (which has usually been McCollum). Klaynus has been locking whoever he's guarding down.

[Jonnyblue19]

They should be going to whichever one is being guarded by Curry (which has usually been McCollum). Klaynus has been locking whoever he's guarding down.

Yea, when Marc Jackson says that then you know it is obvious

[Will Hunting]

:lmao holy shit, just noticed Iggy isn't playing tonight. Even if the Blazers win this is a pathetic performance by them.

[Jonnyblue19]

:lmao holy shit, just noticed Iggy isn't playing tonight. Even if the Blazers win this is a pathetic performance by them.

Yea it is a joke

[Will Hunting]

Yea, when Marc Jackson says that then you know it is obvious
They also keep calling those awful pick and rolls that don't have any spacing and make it way too easy for Golden State to double.

[Capt Bringdown]

LOL, small ball

[Jonnyblue19]

Does Dame know how to box out?

[Jonnyblue19]

Thank goodness this pathetic series is over

[DC23]

:rollin

[Beartrucci]

Of course Dray hits the dagger :lol

[Laker_1995]

No KD no problem lmao

[Jonnyblue19]

Give the ball to CJ. Dame has been trash like usual

[Capt Bringdown]

No KD no problem lmao

Not significant considering how shitty Portland is.

[Will Hunting]

That's out on Lillard.

[Spurs Homer]

No foul called on that mugging?

[baseline bum]

Fuck off Mark Jackson, that Warriors team is still extremely talented just on Curry + Thompson + Donkey.

[DPG21920]

:lmao Kevin Durant

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[Jonnyblue19]

That is what they called?:lmao

[Will Hunting]

Fuck off Mark Jackson, that Warriors team is still extremely talented just on Curry + Thompson + Donkey.
Yeah that last comment from him was retarded.

[DC23]

Can you draw up a worse play?

[DPG21920]

The West is absolutely wide open outside of GS. Anyone who is a playoff team should be pushing right now to grow. WCF run is totally open.

[MultiTroll]

I woulda gone for a 2.
Certainly a less difficult shot then that Lillard extreme fade away trey.

Portland BBIQ is low.

[Will Hunting]

:lmao what a bad play to draw up on so many levels. The guy Curry was guarding was sagged off in the corner and Curry wasn't tested at all on the play.

[Spurtacular]

Stotts reminding me of Scott Brooks.SMH

[Bynumite]

Live scenes inside the Durant residence:



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[KimmyGib]

terrible shot with 3+ seconds and a timeout remaining

[Spurs Homer]

Not even aldridge will want to play with “illard” now

what a pussy

[HarlemHeat37]

Fuck off Mark Jackson, that Warriors team is still extremely talented just on Curry + Thompson + Donkey.

It's very talented due to those guys, but everybody else is terrible outside of Looney..Steve Kerr is a great coach, tbh, his team is too loaded to ever receive credit, though:lol

[timvp]

Fuck off Mark Jackson, that Warriors team is still extremely talented just on Curry + Thompson + Donkey.

Best player in the league. Top ten player in the league. Second best shooter and probably top 20 player in the league.

Yeah, talent not an issue :lol

[timvp]

Steve Kerr is a great coach, tbh..

:lol Mike Brown coached them to a championship and Luke Walton was like 44-2. Kerr is along for the ride, tbh.

[Jonnyblue19]

terrible shot with 3+ seconds and a timeout remaining

Exactly, they draw a fadeaway 3 going away from the basket with 3 seconds on the shot clock?

Did they think they only had 1 second to shoot? And of course they go to Dame even though he has Klay on him and CJ has Curry on him.

[Spurs Homer]

Pretty sure the bucks are better than these warriors

but the refs


will intervene

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Mike Brown coached them to a championship and Luke Walton was like 44-2. Kerr is along for the ride, tbh.

Historically great system, best culture in the league..let's the players do whatever they want instead of being a dictator..he built this shit, give him credit..

[Play Boban]

Kaepernick is on his way to the dubs locker room tbh

[Capt Bringdown]

Not even aldridge will want to play with “illard” now

what a pussy

Lillard's over-rated, but Portland was without a rebounding/shot-blocking center or power forward, or any kind of low post presence to put any pressure on GS what-so-ever.

Outrebounded 56-28 tonight

[lefty]

:lol Kevin Insecurant

[ducks]

He built it and if they ever go on a 5 game loosing streak they will be internal fighting

[DAF86]

:lol Mike Brown coached them to a championship and Luke Walton was like 44-2. Kerr is along for the ride, tbh.

The ride only started when Mark Jackson got sacked and Kerr implemented the system, tbh.

Also, Kerr's coaching on this playoffs run has been nearly perfect. If Pop would have had about 70% of Kerr's sensibility to rotations and minutes managing, the Spurs would probably still be alive.

[Will Hunting]

Historically great system, best culture in the league..let's the players do whether they want instead of being a dictator..he built this shit, give him credit..
This...unlike most "players coaches" who are too nice and don't get any respect (i.e. Tony my son killed himself Dungy), Kerr gets along really well with his players but they still respect him and know when to shut up and listen, even Draymond. All Walton did was come in and not fuck up what Kerr built in 2015.

Paul Pierce said it best during the pregame, when you win a championship and the same group of guys returns the following year, you don't really need any more coaching during the regular season. Everyone already knew their role when Walton was interim coach.

[Jonnyblue19]

Lillard's over-rated, but Portland was without a rebounding/shot-blocking center or power forward, or any kind of low post presence to put any pressure on GS what-so-ever.

Outrebounded 56-28 tonight

But with both Durant and Iggy out they should have won this game.

[timvp]

Historically great system
His system is basically just not being Mark Jackson



best culture in the league..
Culture :lol



let's the players do whether they want instead of being a dictator
Pretty good idea to let the players do what they want when you have the best player in the league, a top ten player in the league and a top 20 player in the league.


..he built this shit, give him credit..
He's better than Mark Jackson, sure. But there are about 200 coaches who could win championships with the amount of talent on this team. When he has missed time, the Warriors haven't missed a beat. In fact, they've gotten better.

If he retired two years ago or tomorrow, there'd be no difference, tbh.

[phxspurfan]

It's very talented due to those guys, but everybody else is terrible outside of Looney..Steve Kerr is a great coach, tbh, his team is too loaded to ever receive credit, though:lol

Iggy

[KimmyGib]

Blazers:

Up 17 in game 2
Up 18 in game 3
Up 17 in game 4

...and still got swept :lol

[Capt Bringdown]

Pretty sure the bucks are better than these warriors

but the refs


will intervene

Camping your best player - a 7 footer behind the 3 point line, seems like a strange offense. One that probably plays right into the hands of GS's trapping defense.
Not terribly impressed by the Bucks, but they might have the length to cause GS some problems. IF they take advantage of it.

[DPG21920]

It’s just wild how GS really doesn’t have any role players who are consistently liabilities on defense. Not one. Sure, their top end talent is what does it, but no Mills/Beli/Bertans type players. They can provide off ball value and defensive value.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Was that Curry launching a last second attempt to score even though they clearly won? I hate these disgusting arrogant fucks lol

[timvp]

It’s just wild how GS really doesn’t have any role players who are consistently liabilities on defense. Not one. Sure, their top end talent is what does it, but no Mills/Beli/Bertans type players. They can provide off ball value and defensive value.

When you have the most dangerous offensive weapon in history and the two best shooters in history, you don't need offensive role players, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

I woulda gone for a 2.
Certainly a less difficult shot then that Lillard extreme fade away trey.

Portland BBIQ is low.

A 2 wouldve got 2 ot and let me hit the 2nd half over. Also, i would have been able to get money back on gs. I was portland heavy. That shitty play cost me a load.

[DPG21920]

When you have the most dangerous offensive weapon in history and the two best shooters in history, you don't need offensive role players, tbh.

I know, but it’s still amazing to not end up with even one Mills type contract. Or Beli. Their front office is just cut throat aces when it comes to being smart.

Never a Pau Gasol deal. Never a Mills deal. Never a Beli deal. If you can’t defend, you aren’t on the team. I think more teams could benefit from that versatility and need to stop valuing offense so much.

I get it. Easier to say with Curry/Klay/KD, but point still remains. Hell, just dont sign 3-5 liabilities :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

His system is basically just not being Mark Jackson



Culture :lol



Pretty good idea to let the players do what they want when you have the best player in the league, a top ten player in the league and a top 20 player in the league.


He's better than Mark Jackson, sure. But there are about 200 coaches who could win championships with the amount of talent on this team. When he has missed time, the Warriors haven't missed a beat. In fact, they've gotten better.

If he retired two years ago or tomorrow, there'd be no difference, tbh.

The missed time argument is weak IMO..the system was already in place, the players already knew what to do, they didn't need coaching at that point:lol sure, once it was in place, it's in cruise control and they didn't need him, but that's the case for all coaches in the NBA..do you really think Tim, Manu and Parker wouldn't have known what to run without Pop after they had already been together for a minute?

This is easy to say now, but nobody thought they were historically talented before Kerr arrived..the FACT is, they were an ordinary team that became the best of all-time with his presence..salute to him, you can bet that the media and fans would be eating Pop's ass every day if he had built this:lol

[baseline bum]

:lol Mike Brown coached them to a championship and Luke Walton was like 44-2. Kerr is along for the ride, tbh.

Somehow Mark Jackson was able to coach them to a first round loss though. :lol

Man I wanted the Lakers to hire him.

[Chillen]

Death, Taxes, Warriors in the NBA Finals.

[TDMVPDPOY]

you can bet that the media and fans would be eating Pop's ass every day if he had built this:lol

the same pos who tried to build his own version of small ball after avery johnson mavs exposed him? wasted 7 years of td

then he tried to play cute bball by subbing td out of a elimination game last play to win the championship...lol overrated as hell

[ducks]

Kerr smokes weed
Proves he does have brains left
Anyone other then mark Jackson could have got a title before Kerr got there
They were not as good when Mark was there
Marks o was terrible
He got them playing d
Curry now can get 37 feet away
Not hard to do o for that

[baseline bum]

Live scenes inside the Durant residence:



https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DefinitePoliticalBackswimmer-size_restricted.gif

You look like one of them Crenshaw Mafia motherfuckers. I hate little ######s like you.

[baseline bum]

Yeah that last comment from him was retarded.

Give me players who play hard. :lol

Like other teams in the playoffs don't play hard. Shit reminds me of the poster my old college roommate had up on the wall:

https://i.ibb.co/G0qb3gK/incompetencedemotivator.jpg

[midnightpulp]

The missed time argument is weak IMO..the system was already in place, the players already knew what to do, they didn't need coaching at that point:lol sure, once it was in place, it's in cruise control and they didn't need him, but that's the case for all coaches in the NBA..do you really think Tim, Manu and Parker wouldn't have known what to run without Pop after they had already been together for a minute?

This is easy to say now, but nobody thought they were historically talented before Kerr arrived..the FACT is, they were an ordinary team that became the best of all-time with his presence..salute to him, you can bet that the media and fans would be eating Pop's ass every day if he had built this:lol

Word on Jackson is that he lost the lockerroom since he was a bit of dictator himself. The talent of that team was evident when they were this || close to beating the Spurs in 2013, which presumably would've lead to a Finals appearance. It took a historic 4th quarter collapse and then Curry coming up gimpy for the Spurs to beat them. The next season, they pushed a hyped Clippers team to 7, narrowly losing a couple of games. The primary difference from the Jackson years into the Kerr years is one name: Draymond Green. David Lee was still considered a good player during Jackson's tenure, so he got the minutes over the younger and unproven Green. In hindsight, it was a mistake, as Lee was always something of an empty stat type player with low game impact. Then he got injured in Kerr's first season, allowing Green to emerge. Jackson's teams also had fat like Jarret Jack and Dick Jefferson.

Was it Kerr's "genius" that recognized Draymond's potential or just circumstance? If those young Warriors without Draymond were pushing the Spurs and Clippers, it stands to reason that Jackson, with a devoted lockerroom and the same roster, probably has similar success. I'm skeptical about voodoo systems making much of a difference as long as the system isn't at odds with the analytics, and think the most important element in any basketball team (any sport, really) is talent. Great talent can excel in a variety of circumstances, and doesn't necessarily need the "right" system to succeed. I mean, the Spurs changed their offensive philosophy 3 or 4 times, and the big 3 always succeeded no matter.

[LeGiannis]

Somehow Mark Jackson was able to coach them to a first round loss though. :lol

Man I wanted the Lakers to hire him.

They lost that series because Bogut was injured.

[HarlemHeat37]

Word on Jackson is that he lost the lockerroom since he was a bit of dictator himself. The talent of that team was evident when they were this || close to beating the Spurs in 2013, which presumably would've lead to a Finals appearance. It took a historic 4th quarter collapse and then Curry coming up gimpy for the Spurs to beat them. The next season, they pushed a hyped Clippers team to 7, narrowly losing a couple of games. The primary difference from the Jackson years into the Kerr years is one name: Draymond Green. David Lee was still considered a good player during Jackson's tenure, so he got the minutes over the younger and unproven Green. In hindsight, it was a mistake, as Lee was always something of an empty stat type player with low game impact. Then he got injured in Kerr's first season, allowing Green to emerge. Jackson's teams also had fat like Jarret Jack and Dick Jefferson.

Was it Kerr's "genius" that recognized Draymond's potential or just circumstance? If those young Warriors without Draymond were pushing the Spurs and Clippers, it stands to reason that Jackson, with a devoted lockerroom and the same roster, probably has similar success. I'm skeptical about voodoo systems making much of a difference as long as the system isn't at odds with the analytics, and think the most important element in any basketball team (any sport, really) is talent. Great talent can excel in a variety of circumstances, and doesn't necessarily need the "right" system to succeed. I mean, the Spurs changed their offensive philosophy 3 or 4 times, and the big 3 always succeeded no matter.

That's all true, I don't disagree, NBA coaching is extremely overrated..but if we're judging by using the standards we've established, he deserves just as much credit as Popovich or Phil Jackson..

Don't forget that it wasn't long ago that most non-Spurs fans and media believed that Kawhi was a product of Pop:lol

[Rusty]

That's all true, I don't disagree, NBA coaching is extremely overrated..but if we're judging by using the standards we've established, he deserves just as much credit as Popovich or Phil Jackson..

Don't forget that it wasn't long ago that most non-Spurs fans believed that Kawhi was a product of Pop:lol

not really true. Look at Budenholzer this season. Took the Bucks to the ECF while Jason Kidd's team struggled to get out the first round

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Durbeta's burner accounts will be back in full effect after this one. He has a lot of :downspin: to do for his fake-ass legacy.

[HarlemHeat37]

not really true. Look at Budenholzer this season. Took the Bucks to the ECF while Jason Kidd's team struggled to get out the first round

He's a great coach, but he's an example of why their impact is limited..his system with Al Horford leading it gets swept in the playoffs, while his team with Giannis can win the title..

Popovich hasn't gotten past the first round without Kawhi or Tim and probably never will:lol he's the GOAT, still..

[Capt Bringdown]

Jackson got tossed from GS because he is/was a blow-hard and hypocritical bible-thumper:


Minister Mark Jackson, ESPN Analyst: 'Christian Faith Is What I'm All About' (https://www.gospelherald.com/articles/69594/20170211/minister-mark-jackson-espn-analyst-christian-faith-is-what-im-all-about.htm)

In 2011, the Golden State Warriors hired Jackson as head coach. He coached the team for three seasons, but was fired in 2014, despite leading the Warriors to consecutive playoff appearances for the first time in 20-plus years. Warriors' Joe Lacob blamed Jackson's poor relationship with the rest of the organization and his choice of assistant coaches as the main reasons for letting him go, reports SB Nation.

Jackson is married to singer and actress Desiree Coleman. As a licensed minister, he and his wife co-pastored True Love Worship Center International. However, in June 2012, Jackson revealed he had been the target of an extortion threat, which was based on an extramarital affair and nude photos taken in 2006. Jackson said he initially made payments of several thousands of dollars to a stripper and her accomplice to keep quiet about the affair and the photos, but when the alleged extortionists increased their demands, Jackson went to the FBI, and ultimately the alleged conspirators were named in felony criminal complaints.

"I recognize the extremely poor judgment that I used both in having an affair six years ago--including the embarrassing communication I exhibited during that time," said Jackson, "and in attempting to deal with the extortion scheme at first by myself."

[Spurs Homer]

:lol Durbeta's burner accounts will be back in full effect after this one. He has a lot of :downspin: to do for his fake-ass legacy.

this is like the 5th post mocking durbeta

i really missed something as i didnt bother to watch this game til about 4 minutes left in the 4th qtr

what did i miss?

(re: durant?)

[Clipper Nation]

this is like the 5th post mocking durbeta

i really missed something as i didnt bother to watch this game til about 4 minutes left in the 4th qtr

what did i miss?

(re: durant?)
They just swept their way to the Finals without him, and he's been in full meltdown mode on social media already ever since they went up 3-0 without him.

[vander]

Give me players who play hard. :lol

Like other teams in the playoffs don't play hard. Shit reminds me of the poster my old college roommate had up on the wall:

https://i.ibb.co/G0qb3gK/incompetencedemotivator.jpg

this may apply in elite competitive situations like the NBA and ??? where there is no substitute for innate talent or physical ability.

but for the other 99.99% the Coolidge quote still holds true IMO

[Laker_1995]

Durant gunna be busy af all week on Twitter.

[midnightpulp]

That's all true, I don't disagree, NBA coaching is extremely overrated..but if we're judging by using the standards we've established, he deserves just as much credit as Popovich or Phil Jackson..

Don't forget that it wasn't long ago that most non-Spurs fans and media believed that Kawhi was a product of Pop:lol

Unfortunately for the egos of head coaches, I think those standards will cease to exist soon, since the data (which of course you're familiar with) illustrates coaching doesn't have much of an impact on win total. The true "chess match" is in front offices trying to out roster build and out data each other. Sure, coaches can have big in game impacts with their rotation strategies, but that is also something that is informed by front office data. The infamous pulling Duncan in Game 6 is an example. Data showed Duncan was poor closing out on shooters, Miami was obviously going to shoot a three, so Pop made the statistically correct decision in subbing in Diaw. If Diaw were to block the shot, Pop looks like a genius. A funny bounce off the rim made him look like the fool, and fans hindsighted his decision to death, but what if he kept in Duncan and he failed to close out on a shooter?

Point is fans become results oriented and thinking a coach is imparting his ego on the game with his rotation choices, when in fact those choices are made long beforehand, and most likely informed by data collected by front offices. Boiled down, front offices are really the entities that run teams now. As Cub would say, "you can pick any of these coaches out of a hat. It doesn't matter."

[Spurs Homer]

They just swept their way to the Finals without him, and he's been in full meltdown mode on social media already ever since they went up 3-0 without him.

lol

i hope kawhi joins that bitch somewhere next season

to watch them fail together

[MultiTroll]

this is like the 5th post mocking durbeta

i really missed something as i didnt bother to watch this game til about 4 minutes left in the 4th qtr

what did i miss?

(re: durant?)
Already being obvious AF to many what a bandwaggoner he is, its now hitting even the MSM and Casual Phan.
Durbetta already flipped out (again) before tonight on his Twitter (or some Social Media) account, lashing out at a poster who questioned if the Warriors even needed him. By now sweeping the Blazers without his sorry ass it's becoming more and more obvious. The reason you saw 5+ posts is because when Portland was up 17 without a doubt Durbetta was literally celebrating. Then yet another Dubs 2nd half comeback -without him- and a sweep at that.

The pussy is halfway to NYC by now.

[Silver&Black]

Warriors in 4

Fuck Rodney Hood

me

[MultiTroll]

Popovich hasn't gotten past the first round without Kawhi or Tim and probably never will:lol he's the GOAT, still..
Could you please blend these two together?

[Spurs Homer]

Already being obvious AF to many what a bandwaggoner he is, its now hitting even the MSM and Casual Phan.
Durbetta already flipped out (again) before tonight on his Twitter (or some Social Media) account, lashing out at a poster who questioned if the Warriors even needed him. By now sweeping the Blazers without his sorry ass it's becoming more and more obvious. The reason you saw 5+ posts is because when Portland was up 17 without a doubt Durbetta was literally celebrating. Then yet another Dubs 2nd half comeback -without him- and a sweep at that.

The pussy is halfway to NYC by now.

lol

that pussy actually made me root for and respect russell westbrook

what a weak cunt

[timvp]

The missed time argument is weak IMOI mean, technically, missed time is the fairest argument. Not sure how it could be fairer that A B testing, tbh.


they didn't need coaching at that point:lolWhen you have the most dangerous offensive player of all time, the two best shooters and a guy who turned out to be the highest IQ defender of all-time, not much coaching was ever needed outside of avoiding being Mark Jackson.

Here's a good breakdown of what exactly Mark Jackson did while he was Golden State's head coach. (https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8to8jp/before_the_warriors_won_3_championships_in_4/)



once it was in place, it's in cruise control and they didn't need him

Meh, Kerr "putting his system in place" and Kerr "instilling a winning culture" are terms made up by the same people who were cheering on Meyers Leonard tonight in order to deflect some of the praise that should be directed at Curry, Draymond and Klay, tbh.


This is easy to say now, but nobody thought they were historically talented before Kerr arrived

That's mostly because:

1) Curry was struggling with ankle injuries.
2) Draymond wasn't Draymond yet.
3) Mark Jackson was sabotaging everything.

Even given that, in hindsight, they could have been championship contenders as early as 2013.


..the FACT is, they were an ordinary team that became the best of all-time with his presence

Mostly coincidence and an accident. If Stan Van Gundy hadn't turned down the job before Kerr got it, they would have still won championships.

Kerr's "presence" is far down on the list. Only vanilla fans who want to take away the limelight from where it's truly due would even point to that as a top ten reason, tbh.


..salute to him

True. Good job. If I want to homer out, I'd hype Kerr too because he has at least a couple branches connected to the Pop tree -- especially if you look at his assistant coach hires.

But if I'm being honest, it's mostly just narrative the media likes to harp on.



, you can bet that the media and fans would be eating Pop's ass every day if he had built this:lol

Agree. But, I mean, that's what it sounds like you're doing with Kerr, tbh.

The most vanilla of vanilla fan takes is that the winning coach of a playoff series "outcoached" the losing coach. The truth is that NBA coaches rarely outcoach each other to the point that it impacts winning or losing a playoff series. ":cry Kerr is such a genius :cry" because he has great players. The minute he doesn't and starts losing, he'll no longer be considered a genius. Thus, was he ever a genius to begin with, tbh?

No, not really. Right place, right time, didn't mess it up, stayed out of the way. Well done but he doesn't deserve as much credit as he gets.

[midnightpulp]

The most vanilla of vanilla fan takes is that the winning coach of a playoff series "outcoached" the losing coach. The truth is that NBA coaches rarely outcoach each other to the point that it impacts winning or losing a playoff series. ":cry Kerr is such a genius :cry" because he has great players. The minute he doesn't and starts losing, he'll no longer be considered a genius. Thus, was he ever a genius to begin with, tbh?

No, not really. Right place, right time, didn't mess it up, stayed out of the way. Well done but he doesn't deserve as much credit as he gets.

Yep. I don't think Harlem believes in the coaching myth, either. As I said earlier ITT:

"Unfortunately for the egos of head coaches, I think those standards will cease to exist soon, since the data (which of course you're familiar with) illustrates coaching doesn't have much of an impact on win total. The true "chess match" is in front offices trying to out roster build and out data each other. Sure, coaches can have big in game impacts with their rotation strategies, but that is also something that is informed by front office data. The infamous pulling Duncan in Game 6 is an example. Data showed Duncan was poor closing out on shooters, Miami was obviously going to shoot a three, so Pop made the statistically correct decision in subbing in Diaw. If Diaw were to block the shot, Pop looks like a genius. A funny bounce off the rim made him look like the fool, and fans hindsighted his decision to death, but what if he kept in Duncan and he failed to close out on a shooter?

Point is fans become results oriented and thinking a coach is imparting his ego on the game with his rotation choices, when in fact those choices are made long beforehand, and most likely informed by data collected by front offices. Boiled down, front offices are really the entities that run teams now. As Cub would say, "you can pick any of these coaches out of a hat. It doesn't matter." "

Yeah, I find it amusing that fans and media think coaches have some arcane strategy they use to "out think" and "out chess match" the other coach. I don't think Pop is being flippant at all when the media asks him what went wrong and he replies, "They made more shots." That's what basketball comes to do. But the media and fans like the idea of the tortured genius coach sitting there in a dimly lit room, watching hours of film, and devising some super secret playbook that is going to totally take the opponent by storm. Pop even said every coach knows what the other is going to do. He's about making sure he does his thing as perfectly as possible. Basketball tactics and strategy are pretty formalized now. It's about who executes better, and better talent typically executes better.

Belichick has the same myth surrounding him, as if he saw in his chess master like ways Pete Carroll calling that slant when the obvious play was to run, and set up his defense perfectly to put Butler in that position. You can read the run up to what Belichick called, and at the last second, he said "goal line," a "formal" defensive alignment that already is built to defend a short slant pass anyway. Butler just made an outstanding play. Had nothing to do with Belichick "out thinking" Carroll. Any coach calls goal line in that situation.

[Arcadian]

:lol Everyone is looking for a reason to clown Durant, but they swept an exceptionally weak team in the conference finals.

Now if they beat Milwaukee without Durant, THEN you can clown him.

[cjw]

He's a great coach, but he's an example of why their impact is limited..his system with Al Horford leading it gets swept in the playoffs, while his team with Giannis can win the title..

Popovich hasn't gotten past the first round without Kawhi or Tim and probably never will:lol he's the GOAT, still..

I guess beating the Rockets in 2017 doesn’t count. Kawhi was hobbled, or not playing at the end of games, or missing game 6.

[timvp]

Yep. I don't think Harlem believes in the coaching myth, either. As I said earlier ITT:

"Unfortunately for the egos of head coaches, I think those standards will cease to exist soon, since the data (which of course you're familiar with) illustrates coaching doesn't have much of an impact on win total. The true "chess match" is in front offices trying to out roster build and out data each other. Sure, coaches can have big in game impacts with their rotation strategies, but that is also something that is informed by front office data. The infamous pulling Duncan in Game 6 is an example. Data showed Duncan was poor closing out on shooters, Miami was obviously going to shoot a three, so Pop made the statistically correct decision in subbing in Diaw. If Diaw were to block the shot, Pop looks like a genius. A funny bounce off the rim made him look like the fool, and fans hindsighted his decision to death, but what if he kept in Duncan and he failed to close out on a shooter?

Point is fans become results oriented and thinking a coach is imparting his ego on the game with his rotation choices, when in fact those choices are made long beforehand, and most likely informed by data collected by front offices. Boiled down, front offices are really the entities that run teams now. As Cub would say, "you can pick any of these coaches out of a hat. It doesn't matter." "

Yeah, I find it amusing that fans and media think coaches have some arcane strategy they use to "out think" and "out chess match" the other coach. I don't think Pop is being flippant at all when the media asks him what went wrong and he replies, "They made more shots." That's what basketball comes to do. But the media and fans like the idea of the tortured genius coach sitting there in a dimly lit room, watching hours of film, and devising some super secret playbook that is going to totally take the opponent by storm. Pop even said every coach knows what the other is going to do. He's about making sure he does his thing as perfectly as possible. Basketball tactics and strategy are pretty formalized now. It's about who executes better, and better talent typically executes better.

Belichick has the same myth surrounding him, as if he saw in his chess master like ways Pete Carroll calling that slant when the obvious play was to run, and set up his defense perfectly to put Butler in that position. You can read the run up to what Belichick called, and at the last second, he said "goal line," a "formal" defensive alignment that already is built to defend a short slant pass anyway. Butler just made an outstanding play. Had nothing to do with Belichick "out thinking" Carroll. Any coach calls goal line in that situation.

Good post, I'm not going to lie, tbh.

I've never claimed Pop is the GOAT for similar reasons. I'm obviously a huge Pop fan, spend a lot of my ST defending him but -- as you said -- NBA coaches are rarely the deciding factor between wins and losses ... especially today. There are some anomalies (Kerr taking over for Mark Jackson, Bud taking over for Jason Kidd, Avery Johnson taking over for a 99.9% retired Don Nelson) where putting a competent person in charge allows players to play up to their potential but for the most part, NBA coaching impact is highly overrated. For that reason, I don't think it's possible or even worthwhile to determine whether Pop is the GOAT. Pop and Belichick are similar: impressive longevity due to a willingness to change with the times and avoid personal landmines, had the good fortune of coaching great players, not afraid to surround themselves with strong minds, and an ability to move on from the highs and the lows of the job.

[vavvi]

The first half of this Game 4 was the worst WCF basketball in terms of intensity/defense I've every seen.
It was more like a regular season game with zero stakes.

[polandprzem]

Stots is so terrible. Blazers were playing pathetic defense. Not because players are that bad but simple fact of setting the defense. lazy and pathetic defense. Ofensively they never figured out doble teams and traps.

The level of basketball in this Finals was so low that idk what to tell. Kerr could play towel two towel boys and still win this.


And now that shitty GS team that I hate has almost a centry to rest b4 the Finals.

[AlexJones]

Early opening series lines from BetOnline

Warriors -180 Bucks +160

Warriors -300 Raptors +250

[Robz4000]

Should've been Denver in the WCF imo.

[vavvi]

Should've been Denver in the WCF imo.

Denver, Portland, OKC, Spurs... would be the same result

[polandprzem]

Denver, Portland, OKC, Spurs... would be the same result

Not that horrible sweep. At least Mike Malone can coach for something

[Dirks_Finale]

Denver, Portland, OKC, Spurs... would be the same result

[AlexJones]

I'm gonna bet Durfaggot Finals MVP at ~+250. Not just because I think MIL will do whatever it takes to get the ball out of Curry's hands and bait KD into attacking his mismatches, but also as fan insurance in case this piece of shit indeed steals the award from Steph AGAIN.

Hopefully Milwaukee wins though

[LkrFan]

1130682783628529664

:lol

[MultiTroll]

111-108 after White Bread dunks and only 1:50 left in regulation. One of the most egregious Blazer fuck ups. Donkey Green in hero mode tries to take the ball coast to coast and forces a drive into the paint. Gets his shit pushed in by Evan Turner and it's a jump ball. Donkey tips it to Klanus, who is double teamed at the top of the arc. Both Blazer players retreat. Literally backing up 5-10 feet in a "I got him no you take him" moment. Leaves Klanus with a wide open trey. He rattles it in. Van Gundy drops to his knees and begins to blow Klanus.
Unreal.

Per BSPN: the Blazers became the only team over the past two decades to lose three games that they led by at least 15 points in the same playoff series.

[Will Hunting]

Word on Jackson is that he lost the lockerroom since he was a bit of dictator himself. The talent of that team was evident when they were this || close to beating the Spurs in 2013, which presumably would've lead to a Finals appearance. It took a historic 4th quarter collapse and then Curry coming up gimpy for the Spurs to beat them. The next season, they pushed a hyped Clippers team to 7, narrowly losing a couple of games. The primary difference from the Jackson years into the Kerr years is one name: Draymond Green. David Lee was still considered a good player during Jackson's tenure, so he got the minutes over the younger and unproven Green. In hindsight, it was a mistake, as Lee was always something of an empty stat type player with low game impact. Then he got injured in Kerr's first season, allowing Green to emerge. Jackson's teams also had fat like Jarret Jack and Dick Jefferson.

Was it Kerr's "genius" that recognized Draymond's potential or just circumstance? If those young Warriors without Draymond were pushing the Spurs and Clippers, it stands to reason that Jackson, with a devoted lockerroom and the same roster, probably has similar success. I'm skeptical about voodoo systems making much of a difference as long as the system isn't at odds with the analytics, and think the most important element in any basketball team (any sport, really) is talent. Great talent can excel in a variety of circumstances, and doesn't necessarily need the "right" system to succeed. I mean, the Spurs changed their offensive philosophy 3 or 4 times, and the big 3 always succeeded no matter.
IMO Kerr gets some credit for Green. When Jackson was coach Green filled in for injured David Lee a hand full of times and did well, but Jackson still didn't replace Lee with Green in the starting lineup. Most NBA coaches are so frightened about changing the status quo that they would be too worried about the optics of replacing Lee with Green if it backfired.

Kerr also gets credit for how well he manages regular season workload so his team is fresh for the playoffs. It's not a coincidence the year they go 44-2 with Walton is the year they run out of gas in the finals. Walton went 44-2 by increasing the best players' minutes (2016 is the only year in the last 5 where Curry or Draymond averaged > 34 MPG in the regular season) and doing nothing to curtail the amount of energy being spent on regular season games, a particularly stupid strategy for a team that's coming off a long season playing into June and doesn't need to be playing extended regular season minutes to gain experience together. Compare that to how Kerr managed the Warriors the last two years where they were clearly coasting at times during the regular season but they also clearly have more left in the tank now than whatever team they're up against. The 2016 Warriors definitely don't win 73 regular season games with Kerr as the coach but they also beat Cleveland imo if Kerr had been coaching them the whole season.

[UZER]

The first half of this Game 4 was the worst WCF basketball in terms of intensity/defense I've every seen.
It was more like a regular season game with zero stakes.

With the new three point chuck league, valuing possessions is out the window.

Teams play the last 5 minutes of a playoff game like they play the first five minutes of a regular season game in January, chuck chuck chuck. Disgusting.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

the same pos who tried to build his own version of small ball after avery johnson mavs exposed him? wasted 7 years of td

then he tried to play cute bball by subbing td out of a elimination game last play to win the championship...lol overrated as hell

Yup

[FrostKing]

No one is watching

[timvp]

IMO Kerr gets some credit for Green. When Jackson was coach Green filled in for injured David Lee a hand full of times and did well, but Jackson still didn't replace Lee with Green in the starting lineup. Most NBA coaches are so frightened about changing the status quo that they would be too worried about the optics of replacing Lee with Green if it backfired.

To be fair to the basketball gods, that was mostly luck. Kerr started David Lee the entire preseason despite calls from a lot of fans and stats nerds who noted that Lee was actually a negative influence on the court. Lee pulled his hamstring during the last preseason game, which forced Green into the starting lineup.

By the time Lee was healthy, the Warriors were 25-3 (IIRC) and Green had begun to blossom into the monster he is today and it was obvious to keep starting him.


Kerr also gets credit for how well he manages regular season workload so his team is fresh for the playoffs.

Somewhat agreed but then again, the year before Kerr got the Warriors job, the Spurs had just won a championship with no one averaging more than 30 MPG ... so resting during the regular season wasn't really a novel approach.

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^ ya and i was surprised Kerr left Twinky Curry on the floor as long as he did in last nights OT game.

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To be fair to the basketball gods, that was mostly luck. Kerr started David Lee the entire preseason despite calls from a lot of fans and stats nerds who noted that Lee was actually a negative influence on the court. Lee pulled his hamstring during the last preseason game, which forced Green into the starting lineup.

By the time Lee was healthy, the Warriors were 25-3 (IIRC) and Green had begun to blossom into the monster he is today and it was obvious to keep starting him.
IIRC there was a game or 2 in early November when Lee came back (before getting injured again) and Green was starting over him then.




Somewhat agreed but then again, the year before Kerr got the Warriors job, the Spurs had just won a championship with no one averaging more than 30 MPG ... so resting during the regular season wasn't really a novel approach.
It's not a novel approach, but it's something that most coaches aren't very good at (Popovich is probably the GOAT at it), particularly coaches in new situations who don't have a lot of job security. Most coaches stepping into new jobs take the Thibodeau approach of juicing the win column by running starters into the ground just so they can say they made the team better than the last coach did.