Kawhi is staying in Toronto

[Clipper Nation]

1127968111678971904
So much for Spurfan's conspiracy theories that he was going to LA no matter what.

[FkLA]

I have always thought it was more about Uncle Dennis the Menace and his nephew wanting to build a brand/empire. Home just happens to be the place where that would be the easiest.

I do think they'd stick around in TOR if Ujiri bent over and gave Uncle a prominent front office position. I wouldn't put it past them either with how desperate they are to keep Nephew.

[SpursforSix]

1127968111678971904
So much for Spurfan's conspiracy theories that he was going to LA no matter what.

That's hardly a conspiracy theory. He said he wanted to play in LA.

[Chucho]

That's hardly a conspiracy theory. He said he wanted to play in LA.

:lol Seriously. Simple disgruntled player/free agency speculation is not a conspiracy.

[Chris]

CN just using the words as it was intended. An instant write off on tangible facts.

[LkrFan]

1127968111678971904
So much for Spurfan's conspiracy theories that he was going to LA no matter what.

You wanna bet son? His taxes in Canada will be turrible. Take his teammate Kyle Lowry, for example. He made $28 milli, right? Wrong (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.raptorshq.com/platform/amp/2017/9/19/16332742/toronto-raptors-kyle-lowry-espn-salary-review-tax):

2018 season gross pay: $28,703,704

Deductions:

-$2,870,370 (10% escrow)
-$9,377,563 (32.67% Fed Taxes)
-$4,328,108 (15.08% city/state taxes)
-$793,083 (2.76% for his agent)
-$18,000 (0.06% for 401K)
+$564,000 (1.96% for 2017 escrow)
+$167,061 (0.58% shortfall)
Net pay: $12,:lol47,641 (41.96%)

Is a supermax worth it, in Canada after all ^^ shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit?!?! :lmao

He'd be a real dumbass to take home only 41.96% of his pay and stay deported. Fuck that :lol

[apalisoc_9]

You wanna bet son? His taxes in Canada will be turrible. Take his teammate Kyle Lowry, for example. He made $28 milli, right? Wrong (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.raptorshq.com/platform/amp/2017/9/19/16332742/toronto-raptors-kyle-lowry-espn-salary-review-tax):

2018 season gross pay: $28,703,704

Deductions:

-$2,870,370 (10% escrow)
-$9,377,563 (32.67% Fed Taxes)
-$4,328,108 (15.08% city/state taxes)
-$793,083 (2.76% for his agent)
-$18,000 (0.06% for 401K)
+$564,000 (1.96% for 2017 escrow)
+$167,061 (0.58% shortfall)
Net pay: $12,:lol47,641 (41.96%)

Is a supermax worth it, in Canada after all ^^ shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit?!?! :lmao

He'd be a real dumbass to take home only 41.96% of his pay and stay deported. Fuck that :lol

Ontario taxes is ridoculous :lol

[LkrFan]

Ontario taxes is ridoculous :lol

Tell me about it. :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

You wanna bet son? His taxes in Canada will be turrible. Take his teammate Kyle Lowry, for example. He made $28 milli, right? Wrong (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.raptorshq.com/platform/amp/2017/9/19/16332742/toronto-raptors-kyle-lowry-espn-salary-review-tax):

2018 season gross pay: $28,703,704

Deductions:

-$2,870,370 (10% escrow)
-$9,377,563 (32.67% Fed Taxes)
-$4,328,108 (15.08% city/state taxes)
-$793,083 (2.76% for his agent)
-$18,000 (0.06% for 401K)
+$564,000 (1.96% for 2017 escrow)
+$167,061 (0.58% shortfall)
Net pay: $12,:lol47,641 (41.96%)

Is a supermax worth it, in Canada after all ^^ shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit?!?! :lmao

He'd be a real dumbass to take home only 41.96% of his pay and stay deported. Fuck that :lol

Laker Fan calculating NBA players taxes just to feel like the Lakers have a chance to sign Kawhi :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Your coach is Frank Vogel and your point guard is Lonzo Ball :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Robz4000]

Raptors can also offer him $50mil more than any other team, and it's not like Cali's tax situation is any better. Still pretty sure he'll end up a Clipper anyway.

[slick'81]

If he stays in tor spurs fo look like complete fools

[HarlemHeat37]

Laker Fan calculating NBA players taxes just to feel like the Lakers have a chance to sign Kawhi :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Your coach is Frank Vogel and your point guard is Lonzo Ball :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

:lol omg..

[dbreiden83080]

He appears to be comfortable with the team. But it depends on how the ECF go. If the Bucks cruise to a 5 game series win, and Leonard just has no help at all, he still IMO is likely bailing. Even if they go to the finals he may bail for LA. Uncle is running shit, and the Clippers you know want KL bad..

[LkrFan]

Laker Fan calculating NBA players taxes just to feel like the Lakers have a chance to sign Kawhi :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Your coach is Frank Vogel and your point guard is Lonzo Ball :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

No. I'm making the ca$e on why he won't stay deported.

We do have a chance. Will it happen? Who knows. We'll have to see.

-25 points for tryna mislead these farmers. :lol

[resistanze]

You wanna bet son? His taxes in Canada will be turrible. Take his teammate Kyle Lowry, for example. He made $28 milli, right? Wrong (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.raptorshq.com/platform/amp/2017/9/19/16332742/toronto-raptors-kyle-lowry-espn-salary-review-tax):

2018 season gross pay: $28,703,704

Deductions:

-$2,870,370 (10% escrow)
-$9,377,563 (32.67% Fed Taxes)
-$4,328,108 (15.08% city/state taxes)
-$793,083 (2.76% for his agent)
-$18,000 (0.06% for 401K)
+$564,000 (1.96% for 2017 escrow)
+$167,061 (0.58% shortfall)
Net pay: $12,:lol47,641 (41.96%)

Is a supermax worth it, in Canada after all ^^ shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit?!?! :lmao

He'd be a real dumbass to take home only 41.96% of his pay and stay deported. Fuck that :lol

Pablo, you think Cali is much better? :lmao

I moved from Ontario to Cali...trust me the difference is marginal. Now let's look at Wardell Jr's $34.68M salary:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKGh8wRVYAAEaWS.jpg:small

Nephew is leaving, and it's not because of fucking taxes :lol

[whitemamba]

are we going to ignore OPs sig :lol

[MultiTroll]

Those two huggin it out does not = staying.

[baseline bum]

You wanna bet son? His taxes in Canada will be turrible. Take his teammate Kyle Lowry, for example. He made $28 milli, right? Wrong (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.raptorshq.com/platform/amp/2017/9/19/16332742/toronto-raptors-kyle-lowry-espn-salary-review-tax):

2018 season gross pay: $28,703,704

Deductions:

-$2,870,370 (10% escrow)
-$9,377,563 (32.67% Fed Taxes)
-$4,328,108 (15.08% city/state taxes)
-$793,083 (2.76% for his agent)
-$18,000 (0.06% for 401K)
+$564,000 (1.96% for 2017 escrow)
+$167,061 (0.58% shortfall)
Net pay: $12,:lol47,641 (41.96%)

Is a supermax worth it, in Canada after all ^^ shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit?!?! :lmao

He'd be a real dumbass to take home only 41.96% of his pay and stay deported. Fuck that :lol

His taxes in Cali will be just as bad thanks to orange shithead.

[LkrFan]

Pablo, you think Cali is much better? :lmao

I moved from Ontario to Cali...trust me the difference is marginal. Now let's look at Wardell Jr's $34.68M salary:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKGh8wRVYAAEaWS.jpg:small

Nephew is leaving, and it's not because of fucking taxes :lol

:lol

[LkrFan]

His taxes in Cali will be just as bad thanks to orange shithead.

At least he'd have endorsements and he could robotly dry fuck Jeannie!! :rollin :lmao :rollin

[TDMVPDPOY]

If he stays in tor spurs fo look like complete fools

where ever he signs, that team will be in better position then say what the current spurs roster is....

[DMC]

It doesn't matter where he goes but he's the one who said he wasn't going to play anywhere but LA. So if he stays in a region with weather he cannot tolerate, that's on him. They'll cheer for him in any city, because he plays both ends and doesn't run his mouth.

[DAF86]

Kawhi's decision is a win/win, tbh. If he leaves for LA, his whole charade will get exposed. If he stays in Toronto, he stays the fuck out of the West.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Kawhi's decision is a win/win, tbh. If he leaves for LA, his whole charade will get exposed. If he stays in Toronto, he stays the fuck out of the West.

well he is outside of pops dictatorship.. do u really think pop would play kahwi 40mpg+ or even let him continue play with a hot hand? he will yank him out like he does as usual, cause he doesnt want him/others get a big head..besides him...and when the team chokes due to his roster rotation he goes get 2 tech foul and call it a day... stupid coach

[lefty]

Ontario taxes is ridoculous :lol

Quebec : hold by beer

[weebo]

At least he'd have endorsements and he could robotly dry fuck Jeannie!! :rollin :lmao :rollin


He may be going to LA but not the fakers bro get over it :lol

[DAF86]

Everybody laughing at Canada's taxes, yet it is one of the countries with the less % of poverty in the World. I guess Socialism isn't the root of all evil, tbh.

[lefty]

Everybody laughing at Canada's taxes, yet it is one of the countries with the less % of poverty in the World. I guess Socialism isn't the root of all evil, tbh.
But it’s cold as fuck :cry

[DMC]

Everybody laughing at Canada's taxes, yet it is one of the countries with the less % of poverty in the World. I guess Socialism isn't the root of all evil, tbh.

Yeah, all NBA players want an even economic playing field where their money is used to justify stupid comments like the one you just made.

[daslicer]

OP will be knob slobbering #2 in a few months when he signs with the Clippers.

[Arcadian]

I was never convinced he was going anywhere, tbh.

[LkrFan]

He may be going to LA but not the fakers bro get over it :lol

:lol

[LkrFan]

Yeah, all NBA players want an even economic playing field where their money is used to justify stupid comments like the one you just made.

:lol

[LkrFan]

Raptors can also offer him $50mil more than any other team, and it's not like Cali's tax situation is any better. Still pretty sure he'll end up a Clipper anyway.

And? Getting taxed on ~60% of your income should be a deal breakerPERIOD. And you have to factor in David Dennison's Tax scam (designed to help the truly wealthy corrupt whiteys in the country).

NBA players in American cities talking bout Kiwi if he stays:
QTNsbLyMAmk

:lol

[Chillen]

In hindsight Spurs probably traded Kawhi to early, they should have waited till the season starts to see if he would play. If he played and still wanted out they could have traded him by the NBA trade deadline and got better offers. Though it's easy to sit back and say this without knowing what really took place behind the scenes. Only RC and Pop know it and if they traded a player this good in July it must have been pretty ugly behind the scenes. Spurs liked the deal they got for Kawhi but I wouldn't have traded Green to Toronto. Just Kawhi and Mills. If he stay with Raps they will have won the trade, it remains to be scene who got the better end of the deal. Obviously if he leaves for an LA team Spurs did themselves a favor by trading him. If he stays with Raps I wonder if Spurs traded him to early and could have worked things out. Oh well, he's gone for good.

[LkrFan]

In hindsight Spurs probably traded Kawhi to early, they should have waited till the season starts to see if he would play. If he played and still wanted out they could have traded him by the NBA trade deadline and got better offers. Though it's easy to sit back and say this without knowing what really took place behind the scenes. Only RC and Pop know it and if they traded a player this good in July it must have been pretty ugly behind the scenes. Spurs liked the deal they got for Kawhi but I wouldn't have traded Green to Toronto. Just Kawhi and Mills. If he stay with Raps they will have won the trade, it remains to be scene who got the better end of the deal. Obviously if he leaves for an LA team Spurs did themselves a favor by trading him. If he stays with Raps I wonder if Spurs traded him to early and could have worked things out. Oh well, he's gone for good.

Good post. LkrFan is giddy that Pop traded away their franchise player for DeFrozen. That's worse than trading Shaq for Lamar Odumb. At least DeFrozen made all star teams. Odumb? Not so much. :lol

[Jonnyblue19]

His taxes in Cali will be just as bad thanks to orange shithead.

Trump has nothing to do with the highest income tax in nation. He also has lowered the federal tax rates as well.

[Jonnyblue19]

And? Getting taxed on ~60% of your income should be a deal breakerPERIOD. And you have to factor in David Dennison's Tax scam (designed to help the truly wealthy corrupt whiteys in the country).

NBA players in American cities talking bout Kiwi if he stays:
QTNsbLyMAmk

:lol

The tax would rate overall would be about the same. The biggest advantage is LA has a bigger market for endorsements and a better place to build a brand. But Kiwi doesnt endorse himself so it's hard to figure out his decision

[Robz4000]

And? Getting taxed on ~60% of your income should be a deal breakerPERIOD. And you have to factor in David Dennison's Tax scam (designed to help the truly wealthy corrupt whiteys in the country).

NBA players in American cities talking bout Kiwi if he stays:
QTNsbLyMAmk

:lol

We've already been over that Cali's tax situation isn't any better. If money is the decision-maker it'll come down to endorsements; LA is a huge market but being the face of an entire country's sports environment would surpass it. However, for Nephew it'll prolly be about comfort and he's been vocal about how much he hates Toronto's weather.

[LkrFan]

We've already been over that Cali's tax situation isn't any better. If money is the decision-maker it'll come down to endorsements; LA is a huge market but being the face of an entire country's sports environment would surpass it. However, for Nephew it'll prolly be about comfort and he's been vocal about how much he hates Toronto's weather.

Endorsements are a huge factor, but so is being around Uncle Dennis's family :lol

Clipps are a real threat, but Bron is out there recruiting hard. Hopefully he closes the deal :toast

[Killakobe81]

I of course want Lakers to try and recruit Kawhi (Who wouldn't?)
But im almost to the point where I just want us to clean house and though i have nothing aginst bron if he wants a trade to a contender might grant it.
Maybe there is afurther bottom we need to hit (God help us) before we can truly fix things.

I Also would love the Zion pick because this place and tyeh internet wil be flooded with conspiracy theorists but that also is a quick fix not a long term one.

I guess what Im saying its time to try and build a culture first and a team and stop star chasing and looking for splashy moves.

We seriously wre chasing dwight, LMA carmelo and even greg monroe liek some thirsty thot trying to have one of aubrey graham's babies
None of those guys would solve our problems because even Lebron couldn't.
A healthy Kawhi is legit though so i get it.

Time for us to act like somebody.
IF bron pulls it off awesome.
if not its time for true Laker fans to hold this franchise accountable. that protest should just be a start.

Forget focusing on titles we need to focus on rebuilding our infrastrutire from the top (team prez to scouting)

[LeGiannis]

Good post. LkrFan is giddy that Pop traded away their franchise player for DeFrozen. That's worse than trading Shaq for Lamar Odumb. At least DeFrozen made all star teams. Odumb? Not so much. :lol


I'll take peak Odom over peak DeRozan tbh.

[baseline bum]

Trump has nothing to do with the highest income tax in nation. He also has lowered the federal tax rates as well.

His tax law is a big fuck you to blue states that already subsidized his red states enough.

[johnnymoore]

KL just bought an estate about 20 minutes from Kobe Bryant's.
KL grew up a Kobe fan/Lakers fan.
KL requested a trade to the Lakers.

He may very well stay in T.O. - he may also bolt for the Clippers/Nets/Knicks or whoever.

But if you think the Lakers aren't a serious contender for him, you're just fooling yourselves.

[Laker_1995]

As long we have a damn 1% chance to get kawahi Im all in for dude. Talent like that you do whatever it takes to sign him. But ballmer will offer uncle some cash on the side and he will be a clipper lol. I don’t blame him

[LkrFan]

I'll take peak Odom over peak DeRozan tbh.

You cray cray. He was only consistently good vs the Suns or before that when he was on the Heat (in the weakass East).

It wasn't until we "traded for" MVPau that he halfway got his head out of his ass (Pau took his spot, he pouted his way to the bench, then eventually won 6MOY).

You'd want him over DD? I beg to differ. Don't hold it against DD that he is NOT Kiwi. But to each his own I guess.

[LkrFan]

His tax law is a big fuck you to blue states that already subsidized his red states enough.

This. Fuck David Dennison and his supporters tbh :lol

[R. DeMurre]

I Also would love the Zion pick because this place and the internet will be flooded with conspiracy theorists but that also is a quick fix not a long term one.





I've been picturing conspiracy theorists sitting around the past few weeks, already assembling the theories before Zion even goes anywhere...

[LkrFan]

KL just bought an estate about 20 minutes from Kobe Bryant's.
KL grew up a Kobe fan/Lakers fan.
KL requested a trade to the Lakers.

He may very well stay in T.O. - he may also bolt for the Clippers/Nets/Knicks or whoever.

But if you think the Lakers aren't a serious contender for him, you're just fooling yourselves.

Not only that, LBJ has flown to Philly to meet with him and I'm sure is in constant comms. Gonna be interesting if he comes. Hope so!

[Robz4000]

:lol here we go again with Lakerfan hyping themselves up thinking they're gonna land a marquee free agent only to end up with the likes of FatMelo...

[Holden_Caulfield]

lowry is too old, gasol is pretty much their bogut pre-KD GS, only siakam is the other all star caliber player. why would he stay with that team unless he likes being king in the north. maybe they can lure butler or tobias to join after they lose to the bucks :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

Ontario taxes is ridoculous :lol


Tell me about it. :lol

And California's aren't equally bad?

[Millennial_Messiah]

His tax law is a big fuck you to blue states that already subsidized his red states enough.

And 3 of the biggest bellwether states, while they do have state income taxes, they are the 3 lowest out of all states that do have state income taxes.

Pennsylvania: 3.75%
Ohio: 4%
Michigan: 4.25%


All flat taxes. No local taxes unless you live in Center City, Philadelphia area.


All other states have much higher marginal SALT taxes, ranging up to 13% in Cali and NYC.

One caveat to the Trump red state/blue state argument: Wisconsin does have high state income taxes (close to 8% for anyone with a decent salary) and was a bellwether that went for Trump. North Carolina, which I'd consider a red state, has the highest flat income tax of 6%.

[Jonnyblue19]

We will all find out soon enough

[UZER]

KL just bought an estate about 20 minutes from Kobe Bryant's.
KL grew up a Kobe fan/Lakers fan.
KL requested a trade to the Lakers.

He may very well stay in T.O. - he may also bolt for the Clippers/Nets/Knicks or whoever.

But if you think the Lakers aren't a serious contender for him, you're just fooling yourselves.

I asked Kobe to get in Kawhi’s ear. Oops.

:pop:

[Killakobe81]

:lol here we go again with Lakerfan hyping themselves up thinking they're gonna land a marquee free agent only to end up with the likes of FatMelo...

We got bron.
when many thought we had no shot ....

but I agree not hopeful.
OTOH Aldridge was the only FA I sorta wanted (i didnt want PG13 at max dollars because of health/overrated but he proved me wrong)
so glad we struck out on the Melo (first time), dwight, and freaking greg monroe


sometimes dudes save you from yourselves

[Robz4000]

We got bron.
when many thought we had no shot ....

but I agree not hopeful.
OTOH Aldridge was the only FA I sorta wanted (i didnt want PG13 at max dollars because of health/overrated but he proved me wrong)
so glad we struck out on the Melo (first time), dwight, and freaking greg monroe


sometimes dudes save you from yourselves

Y'all got Lebron because he was more interested in building his business interests and media empire than winning a championship. Let's be real here.

[Killakobe81]

Y'all got Lebron because he was more interested in building his business interests and media empire than winning a championship. Let's be real here.

Doesnt matter.
in fact that helps us long-term.
We can suck have mickey mouse FO and still get a marquee FA ...

you dont think down the road some other star will choose the same? Maybe not this class but bron is laying down the blueprint
I even said it thsi summer it may be more like gretzky going to Kings than shaq going to Lakers
Bron was just to make us viable stabilize us

Unfortunately Magic, pelinka rich paul and Jeannie buss ruined all of that ...

[Robz4000]

Doesnt matter.
in fact that helps us long-term.
We can suck have mickey mouse FO and still get a marquee FA ...

you dont think down the road some other star will choose the same? Maybe not this class but bron is laying down the blueprint
I even said it thsi summer it may be more like gretzky going to Kings than shaq going to Lakers
Bron was just to make us viable stabilize us

Unfortunately Magic, pelinka rich paul and Jeannie buss ruined all of that ...

Sure, once the shit show that is the current Lakers' FO is gone and stable management takes over the Lakers are bound to get some big name players, but in the meantime y'all are stuck with the shit sandwich.

[Killakobe81]

Sure, once the shit show that is the current Lakers' FO is gone and stable management takes over the Lakers are bound to get some big name players, but in the meantime y'all are stuck with the shit sandwich.

Yup i been eating them too
its freaking depressing

[Clipper Nation]

We got bron.
when many thought we had no shot ....

You got LeBron for his retirement tour after he gave up on winning any more rings. Kawhi is in a totally different situation.

[Killakobe81]

You got LeBron for his retirement tour after he gave up on winning any more rings. Kawhi is in a totally different situation.

Never said we getting Kawhi

[LeGiannis]

You cray cray. He was only consistently good vs the Suns or before that when he was on the Heat (in the weakass East).

It wasn't until we "traded for" MVPau that he halfway got his head out of his ass (Pau took his spot, he pouted his way to the bench, then eventually won 6MOY).

You'd want him over DD? I beg to differ. Don't hold it against DD that he is NOT Kiwi. But to each his own I guess.

When I say "peak Odom", I mean the Miami Heat version.

[DAF86]

Yeah, all NBA players want an even economic playing field where their money is used to justify stupid comments like the one you just made.

Pretty obvious my comment had nothing to do with NBA players desires, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

When I say "peak Odom", I mean the Miami Heat version.

He was on the Heat for 1 fucking year, lol. 4th best player after Wade, Butler, and Alston that year.

Maybe, maybe you can argue his "peak" was the first 10 or so years he spent rotting with the Clippers.

[DMC]

Pretty obvious my comment had nothing to do with NBA players desires, tbh.

People are laughing at Canada's taxes because the conversation is about Kawhi staying in Toronto you dipshit. So unless you think Kawhi gives two shits about the poverty level in Canada, what the fuck are you talking about?

[spurraider21]

When I say "peak Odom", I mean the Miami Heat version.
so when you say peak odom you aren talking about peak odom

[LkrFan]

People are laughing at Canada's taxes because the conversation is about Kawhi staying in Toronto you dipshit. So unless you think Kawhi gives two shits about the poverty level in Canada, what the fuck are you talking about?

:rollin:lmao:rollin

[LkrFan]

He was on the Heat for 1 fucking year, lol. 4th best player after Wade, Butler, and Alston that year.

Maybe, maybe you can argue his "peak" was the first 10 or so years he spent rotting with the Clippers.

:lol

[LkrFan]

Never said we getting Kawhi

I don't know Killa...right now the Lakers look like the best LA option for him and Uncle Dennis ;)

[Killakobe81]

I don't know Killa...right now the Lakers look like the best LA option for him and Uncle Dennis ;)

We will see
I want him on the Lakers (of course)

I hope this season reminds everyone though why you need to superteam it up or wait out state
they lose KD and finish off Rox
you will not beat them anytime soon ...

[Millennial_Messiah]

I don't know Killa...right now the Lakers look like the best LA option for him and Uncle Dennis ;)

Clippers have tons of cap space and a hole at small forward. I guess since Lebron's lost speed he's a PF now? I still think that would be a conflict especially when teams like the Nuggets, Blazers, Spurs etc decide to play 2 bigs at a time. Don't see Lebron holding up down low against a Millsap, Jokic, Nurkic.

[ambchang]

Not sure how Kawhi and Lebron can play on the same team. Both needs the ball in their hands. Neither of them are great at off ball roles and neither are great at nor should be spot up shooters.

[DMC]

Not sure how Kawhi and Lebron can play on the same team. Both needs the ball in their hands. Neither of them are great at off ball roles and neither are great at nor should be spot up shooters.

Same said about Wade

[Chucho]

At least he'd have endorsements and he could robotly dry fuck Jeannie!! :rollin :lmao :rollin


Oi Paulito. You can get an endorsement living anywhere.

[LkrFan]

Oi Paulito . You can get an endorsement living anywhere.

:lol

You think Jim's HEB endorsements = all the endorsements Kobe has in LA? :lmao

[LkrFan]

Not sure how Kawhi and Lebron can play on the same team. Both needs the ball in their hands. Neither of them are great at off ball roles and neither are great at nor should be spot up shooters.

:lol

[LkrFan]

Clippers have tons of cap space and a hole at small forward. I guess since Lebron's lost speed he's a PF now? I still think that would be a conflict especially when teams like the Nuggets, Blazers, Spurs etc decide to play 2 bigs at a time. Don't see Lebron holding up down low against a Millsap, Jokic, Nurkic.

:lol

[Killakobe81]

Not sure how Kawhi and Lebron can play on the same team. Both needs the ball in their hands. Neither of them are great at off ball roles and neither are great at nor should be spot up shooters.

Fair point not an ideal fit but if he wanted to come you make it work

[Seventyniner]

1127968111678971904
So much for Spurfan's conspiracy theories that he was going to LA no matter what.

I bet Uncle Dennis is trying to worm his way into a high front office role, using Number Two re-signing there as leverage. Dude is worse than Lavar Ball cause his player is actually good.

[DMC]

I bet Uncle Dennis is trying to worm his way into a high front office role, using Number Two re-signing there as leverage. Dude is worse than Lavar Ball cause his player is actually good.

You think Dennis wants a job?

:lmao

[DAF86]

People are laughing at Canada's taxes because the conversation is about Kawhi staying in Toronto you dipshit. So unless you think Kawhi gives two shits about the poverty level in Canada, what the fuck are you talking about?

I just took the opportunity to talk some economics. And I'm talking about fucking idiots that intrinsically think every socialist policy is bad no matter what.

Neither Socialism nor Capitalism are bad, in fact, you need both. The morons on both extremes are what suck.

[daslicer]

I just took the opportunity to talk some economics. And I'm talking about fucking idiots that intrinsically think every socialist policy is bad no matter what.

Neither Socialism nor Capitalism are bad, in fact, you need both. The morons on both extremes are what suck.

Surprisingly one of the few times that I agree with you. The countries that have the lowest levels of inequality have a mix of Capitalism and Socialism. Here in the states I would say it's mainly the generations before the Millennials that have been brainwashed to believe Socialism equals communist Russia.

[Seventyniner]

You think Dennis wants a job?

:lmao

No, he wants a fancy title, a cushy office, and some power in the organization. A fat salary wouldn't hurt. I didn't say he was actually going to do any work.

Supposedly he wanted more power in the Spurs organization and pushed Number Two to leave once PATFO shut Uncle Dennis out. That's what I'm basing my post on, even though it was just a rumor. One thing we do know, Uncle Dennis wants to make his presence known.

[MultiTroll]

Strictly from a PR standpoint I think Kwa going to LA goes smoother if Toronto loses in the ECFs to the Bucks.

If Toronto wins (doubtful) all the You Should Have Stayed What Could Have Been birds will be out.

[DMC]

I just took the opportunity to talk some economics. And I'm talking about fucking idiots that intrinsically think every socialist policy is bad no matter what.

Neither Socialism nor Capitalism are bad, in fact, you need both. The morons on both extremes are what suck.

So everyone being equally poor is good as long as they are equal?

:lol

No thanks. Keep your socialism. There's a reason your people are marching toward the US. (:cry "but they aren't my people")

[DAF86]

So everyone being equally poor is good as long as they are equal?

:lol

No thanks. Keep your socialism. There's a reason your people are marching toward the US. (:cry "but they aren't my people")

Yeah, because in Canada everybody is poor. :lol

The US has 40 million more people living in poverty than Canada. In terms of % the US almost doubles Canada. :lmao

[Jonnyblue19]

Yeah, because in Canada everybody is poor. :lol

The US has 40 million more people living in poverty than Canada. In terms of % the US almost doubles Canada. :lmao

https://theindependent.ca/2017/03/22/poverty-rate-shockingly-high-in-the-u-s-just-as-rampant-in-canada/


FYI "On a per capita basis, the poverty rate in Canada is nearly as high as it is in the United States. With 45 million Americans out of a total population of 320 million living in poverty, that works out to roughly one in seven. In Canada, with 5 million people in poverty out of a total population of 37 million, that works out to be just marginally (one-third of a percentage point) lower than the U.S. rate. Certainly nothing to boast about"

[DAF86]

https://theindependent.ca/2017/03/22/poverty-rate-shockingly-high-in-the-u-s-just-as-rampant-in-canada/


FYI "On a per capita basis, the poverty rate in Canada is nearly as high as it is in the United States. With 45 million Americans out of a total population of 320 million living in poverty, that works out to roughly one in seven. In Canada, with 5 million people in poverty out of a total population of 37 million, that works out to be just marginally (one-third of a percentage point) lower than the U.S. rate. Certainly nothing to boast about"

Just saw it on TV not too long ago, according to the latest report it is 9% for Canada, and over 15% in the US.

Either way, let's say it's equal. Isn't Socialism suppossed to bring poverty? Shouldn't the countries with more socialist policies have a higher % of poor people than those with less socialist policies? :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Just saw it on TV not too long ago, according to the latest report it is 9% for Canada, and over 15% in the US.

Either way, let's say it's equal. Isn't Socialism suppossed to bring poverty? Shouldn't the countries with more socialist policies have a higher % of poor people than those with less socialist policies? :lol

Poor people in canada have healthcare.

Poor people in US. Basically waiting to die

[Jonnyblue19]

Just saw it on TV not too long ago, according to the latest report it is 9% for Canada, and over 15% in the US.

Either way, let's say it's equal. Isn't Socialism suppossed to bring poverty? Shouldn't the countries with more socialist policies have a higher % of poor people than those with less socialist policies? :lol

I don't want to get into a debate about socialism on a basketball forum. Some people believe it is good others not. At the end of day we can agree to disagree.

Now back to Kiwi he will most likely leave because in LA he can build a bigger brand for himself. Now will he, we will find out in about 5 weeks

[DMC]

Yeah, because in Canada everybody is poor. :lol

The US has 40 million more people living in poverty than Canada. In terms of % the US almost doubles Canada. :lmao
https://i.imgur.com/1FmXIus.jpg

:rofl

[midnightpulp]

We're just as socialized as any other first world country. Problem is those dollars don't go toward services that might help those less fortunate, but toward the bank accounts of Boeing, Northrop, etc. Here's the kind of horseshit I'm talking about: http://fortune.com/2019/05/14/transdigm-pentagon-costs/

In the political forum, I've called the American Military the largest socialized institution in world history. The amount of tax dollars the American citizen has spent on national defense is mind boggling.

[DAF86]

https://i.imgur.com/1FmXIus.jpg

:rofl

We are talking about poor people, not rich people, tbh. That stat actually shows how much socialist policies are needed. 41% of millionaires yet they have more poors than countries with only 3% of millionaires. How the fuck is that good? That's fucking inequality 101 :lol:

Not that I expected you to make that kind of simple reasoning, tbh. :lol

[DAF86]

Also, I just realized, lol at "% of World total". No shit the US has the biggest % of "World total", I'm sure they are pretty up there (if not leading) the % of "World total" in number of poors too, tbh. :lol

[DMC]

We are talking about poor people, not rich people, tbh. That stat actually shows how much socialist policies are needed. 41% of millionaires yet they have more poors than countries with only 3% of millionaires. How the fuck is that good? That's fucking inequality 101 :lol:

Not that I expected you to make that kind of simple reasoning, tbh. :lol

So if you make an A in class, you'd rather have a C if someone who failed could be given a C as well?

Great philosophy you have there. It should elevate your country beyond the 36% poverty level it has.

[DMC]

Also, I just realized, lol at "% of World total". No shit the US has the biggest % of "World total", I'm sure they are pretty up there (if not leading) the % of "World total" in number of poors too, tbh. :lol

Canada is 20th in density of millionaires, USA is 7th.

:lol

You were doing better before you gave it away.

[dbreiden83080]

Almost no chance at this. They can't put anyone around him. Nobody wants to be there.. He will be a Clipper. Doc Rivers better tell Uncle that he is cool with Nephew missing 25 games a season.. Didn't he fuck up the Tim Duncan meeting years ago by saying Amy could not travel with the team or some shit LOL..

[MultiTroll]

Didn't he fuck up the Tim Duncan meeting years ago by saying Amy could not travel with the team or some shit LOL..That's the rumor. Careful about mentioning that upstairs so the *Duncan only wanted to play for Pop* slurpers can continue to enjoy their fantacy. :lol

[LkrFan]

Poor people in canada have healthcare.

Poor people in US. Basically waiting to die

This. SMH

[dbreiden83080]

That's the rumor. Careful about mentioning that upstairs so the *Duncan only wanted to play for Pop* slurpers can continue to enjoy their fantacy. :lol

Well all Tim did was take the meeting. I think he was always like 80/20 on staying. But take the meeting and give it some thought. How stupid can Rivers be to say no to Duncan about anything? Everything in any meeting is always a yes.. You can say no later LOL..

[dbreiden83080]

That's the rumor. Careful about mentioning that upstairs so the *Duncan only wanted to play for Pop* slurpers can continue to enjoy their fantacy. :lol

Well all Tim did was take the meeting. I think he was always like 80/20 on staying. But take the meeting and give it some thought. How stupid can Rivers be to say no to Duncan about anything? Everything in any meeting is always a yes.. You can say no later LOL..

[DAF86]

Canada is 20th in density of millionaires, USA is 7th.

:lol

You were doing better before you gave it away.

Again, who gives a fuck about millionaires? I would rather have less people starving, than having more people with more money than they can spend on their lifetimes.

[DAF86]

So if you make an A in class, you'd rather have a C if someone who failed could be given a C as well?

That's the dumbest analogy of all-time, tbh. It only works to expose the retardness of the people that use it, tbh. :lol

Let's say you have a country of 10 people. You also have 10 bucks on that country. You would rather have 2 guys with 5 bucks each while the rest starve to death, or you would rather have the 10 folks with a dollar each?

(Cue in the dumb "with a dollar each they would starve too") :lol


Great philosophy you have there. It should elevate your country beyond the 36% poverty level it has.

Funny you mention it. That number ballooned as soon as a free market president took over.

[ambchang]

That's the dumbest analogy of all-time, tbh. It only works to expose the retardness of the people that use it, tbh. :lol

Let's say you have a country of 10 people. You also have 10 bucks on that country. You would rather have 2 guys with 5 bucks each while the rest starve to death, or you would rather have the 10 folks with a dollar each?

(Cue in the dumb "with a dollar each they would starve too") :lol



Funny you mention it. That number ballooned as soon as a free market president took over.

Actually, it's more like with 100 people, 1 of them owns $4 of that $10, 9 people owns $2.8, 40 of them own $2.5, and the other 50 of those own 70 cents.

Some people love this set up, others hate it, it really depends which side of the spectrum you believe in. Some people are happy being that 40 to share the $2.5, not a lot are happy being the 50 who owns the 70 cents.

The biggest fallacy is that meritocracy exist in such an economy, when the reality is that family background, and in almost all instances, luck factors a big deal in whether someone belongs to the 1%, the 10%, the middle class, and the poor.

Some capitalistic countries in the world aren't that rich. Jamaica I believe is capitalist. Canada, and the Scandanavian countries are most definitely socialist, so is Switzerland. The funny thing is, the tax rates in Canada is much exaggerated, the people in the States don't really pay much less in taxes. Canada's tax revenue vs. GDP is 31.7%, US is 27.5%. Countries like Kazakhstan, Samoa, Turkey, Suriname actually have lower tax rates than the States.

The main difference is where the taxes go to, is it used to provide incentives for the rich to stay, or is it used to give a decent standard of living to the poor such that the poor can increase spending, and as such feed into economic growth. There is no magic bullet.

HK, Singapore, and the US are some of the most capitalistic societies, and they don't necessarily are a haven for all people. it's great if you are rich, not so great if you are poor and struggle to pay for the basics of life, let alone self improve.

[DMC]

Again, who gives a fuck about millionaires? I would rather have less people starving, than having more people with more money than they can spend on their lifetimes.

No one in the US is starving. This isn't the 3rd world, dipshit.

[DAF86]

Sure thing son :lol

[midnightpulp]

Sure thing son :lol

DMC is "correct" in the sense that no one has to starve in the US as there are a wealth of government programs and charities that address the issue. Do some people get left behind? Sure. Furthermore, citing "poverty rate" statistics to determine how poor someone or the country is can be misleading, since many lower and even middle class people will underreport their earnings in order to qualify for some form of welfare. I also wouldn't call the average "poor" person in the US poor by world standards. They will have adequate housing with modern amenities, transportation, technology (cell phone, television, etc).

This of course doesn't excuse the hoarding of the wealth by the "1 percent" and how grossly underpaid and undervalued rank-and-file workers are, but all those Central Americans are coming here for a reason, as getting paid 8.00 an hour under the table to pick peaches and live with 6 other people in a studio apartment is preferable to the real, life threatening poverty they had to endure in their home countries.

[midnightpulp]

Actually, it's more like with 100 people, 1 of them owns $4 of that $10, 9 people owns $2.8, 40 of them own $2.5, and the other 50 of those own 70 cents.

Some people love this set up, others hate it, it really depends which side of the spectrum you believe in. Some people are happy being that 40 to share the $2.5, not a lot are happy being the 50 who owns the 70 cents.

The biggest fallacy is that meritocracy exist in such an economy, when the reality is that family background, and in almost all instances, luck factors a big deal in whether someone belongs to the 1%, the 10%, the middle class, and the poor.

Some capitalistic countries in the world aren't that rich. Jamaica I believe is capitalist. Canada, and the Scandanavian countries are most definitely socialist, so is Switzerland. The funny thing is, the tax rates in Canada is much exaggerated, the people in the States don't really pay much less in taxes. Canada's tax revenue vs. GDP is 31.7%, US is 27.5%. Countries like Kazakhstan, Samoa, Turkey, Suriname actually have lower tax rates than the States.

The main difference is where the taxes go to, is it used to provide incentives for the rich to stay, or is it used to give a decent standard of living to the poor such that the poor can increase spending, and as such feed into economic growth. There is no magic bullet.

HK, Singapore, and the US are some of the most capitalistic societies, and they don't necessarily are a haven for all people. it's great if you are rich, not so great if you are poor and struggle to pay for the basics of life, let alone self improve.

It's a myth that the US is hyper-capitalist. I've said earlier we're as socialized as any other first world country, just that those tax dollars go towards our "blessed" military instead of social programs.

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/07/541797699/fact-check-does-the-u-s-have-the-highest-corporate-tax-rate-in-the-world.

Lord Trump cut the following by 2 percent, however.

https://www.livemint.com/rf/Image-621x414/LiveMint/Period2/2017/01/20/Photos/Processed/[email protected]

[ambchang]

It's a myth that the US is hyper-capitalist. I've said earlier we're as socialized as any other first world country, just that those tax dollars go towards our "blessed" military instead of social programs.

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/07/541797699/fact-check-does-the-u-s-have-the-highest-corporate-tax-rate-in-the-world.

Lord Trump cut the following by 2 percent, however.

https://www.livemint.com/rf/Image-621x414/LiveMint/Period2/2017/01/20/Photos/Processed/[email protected]

Yeah. But I’d say socialism is around the use on people in need. Military really isn’t one I’d count. It’s a way for taxing people to make weapons manufacturers richer.