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RandomGuy
05-13-2019, 01:07 PM
"Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organised groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence."

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746

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A bit old, but worth reading.

Underlying study:

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B

Each of four theoretical traditions in the study of American politics—which can be characterized as theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy, Economic-Elite Domination, and two types of interest-group pluralism, Majoritarian Pluralism and Biased Pluralism—offers different predictions about which sets of actors have how much influence over public policy: average citizens; economic elites; and organized interest groups, mass-based or business-oriented.

A great deal of empirical research speaks to the policy influence of one or another set of actors, but until recently it has not been possible to test these contrasting theoretical predictions against each other within a single statistical model. We report on an effort to do so, using a unique data set that includes measures of the key variables for 1,779 policy issues.

Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.

boutons_deux
05-13-2019, 01:39 PM
You really shouldn't have me on ignore, or you would have seen me posting this weeks, if not month ago

plus several references to "princeton study oligarchy"

to repeat. FFs, a white male land-owning group with deep fear of the the demos (eg, created EC to subvert the will of the untrusted demos), found an oligarchy.

boutons_deux
05-13-2019, 01:43 PM
this study of course, academic-wise, has provoked controversy and trashing, but mostly it's about degree, not concept.

Congress implementing the oligarchy's preferences not 99% of the time, but a smaller number, but still not far from 99%.

Nobody serious argues that USA isn't an oligarchy.

the oligarchy is in complete, unchallengeable control, America is fucked and unfuckable

rjv
05-13-2019, 01:46 PM
i'd go so far as to say it's a kleptocracy.

boutons_deux
05-13-2019, 01:49 PM
i'd go so far as to say it's a kleptocracy.

kleptocratic oligarchy.

The Banksters stole 4M homes in the Banksters Great Depression.

MERS breaks the chain of title, too, violating the fundamental Anglo-Saxon rule of property ownership.