Official 2019 NBA Draft Lottery Thread

[DC23]

The 2019 NBA Draft Lottery will take place this evening Chicago. ESPN will air the results live at 8:30 p.m. ET.

[Splits]

the high point of the season for Laker fan for 6 years running :lmao

[Beartrucci]

Just please don't let the Cavs win again

[Laker_1995]

NY getting #1. It’s already set in stone

[FrostKing]

Just please don't let the Cavs win again
Agreed. Anyone but Cleveland is my general feeling

[Beartrucci]

Agreed. Anyone but Cleveland is my general feeling

My heart will break for Zion and the NBA if Cleveland gets the #1 pick :lol

[The Gemini Method]

the high point of the season for Laker fan for 6 years running :lmao
Pretty much.

[FrostKing]

My heart will break for Zion and the NBA if Cleveland gets the #1 pick :lol
No one started a thread but Cavs just snagged the highly regarded experienced coach from Michigan University.

Gilbert managed to weaken his alma mater's (MSU) main rival while helping his own product

[R. DeMurre]

I'm rooting for New Orleans to get the #1 pick. That would be monumental.

[Laker_1995]

I'm rooting for New Orleans to get the #1 pick. That would be monumental.

zion and AD

[HarlemHeat37]

the high point of the season for Laker fan for 6 years running :lmao

And then wasting the pick:lol

[DC23]

Would be interesting to see what the Suns do with Zion if they get the #1 pick. Probably trade down to #2 for Morant?

[R. DeMurre]

Would be interesting to see what the Suns do with Zion if they get the #1 pick. Probably trade down to #2 for Morant?

That would be interesting. If they could get a future first round pick from the #2 team, it'd be an interesting gamble.

[FrostKing]

Lol. No one is trading away Zion. Except maybe the clueless Lakers.

[Killakobe81]

And then wasting the pick:lol

only "wasted pick" in theory has been Zo, so far

Simmons went #1 and should have
Kat went #2 and should have ...
Randle went 7th probably should have went 5th

not really much you could argue about who they took
Porzy has been off more than on ...Mudiay Okafor have been trash
The simmons/Ingram draft has been mostly trash as well

Im in full on Lakers are mismanaged and a joke right now ...but I am not gonna make false narratives either.

[Jeremy]

Would be interesting to see what the Suns do with Zion if they get the #1 pick. Probably trade down to #2 for Morant?

No. We need a PF almost as much as we need a PG.

The only way we trade the #1 pick is if it’s for an established star (like AD).

[timvp]

The top three teams I'm rooting for to land Zion:

1) Knicks. Zion going to NY probably helps Durant go to the Knicks. Hardest road, per par.

2) Bulls. Another big market team in the East. Could draw some FAs down the line.

3) Hawks. That would be a fun team to watch.

But basically, I'm hoping Zion goes to the Eastern Conference.

That said, it'll probably be a team with a small chance like the Kings. The NBA tried to flatten out the odds to prevent tanking ... but forgot they already tried to do that and that ended up with the Magic getting two number one overall picks in a row. Karma-wise, it's the only proper result :lol

[AlexJones]

Mavs will win

[140]

Mavs have never moved up in the lottery. They're due imho tbh

[apalisoc_9]

Wait..the Suns want another PG? So dumb

[DC23]

Wait..the Suns want another PG? So dumb
Another? The Suns don't have a PG. Booker is trying to play PG but that is not going to work. Hard to believe they had all Bledsoe, Dragic, and IT and ended up with the middle of a donut.

[daslicer]

Lol. No one is trading away Zion. Except maybe the clueless Lakers.

Knicks would do it for AD.

[LkrFan]

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SMDH

[DC23]

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1128367435210473472

[Thanos]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6jo45TXoAA0eyz?format=jpg&name=large

[lefty]

The Hawks logo looks like Pacman

[Clipper Nation]

Just please don't let the Cavs win again

Better them than the Lakers, tbh.

I'd like to see the Heat, Hornets or Wizards win it.

[FrostKing]

Bulls boring?

[Beartrucci]

Better them than the Lakers, tbh.

I'd like to see the Heat, Hornets or Wizards win it.

Understand your stance there, but nothing's worse than letting Zion waste away in Cleveland for however many years he'd have to stay there.

But hey they have a 14% chance. Very likely outcome.

His camera reactions are funny, seems very humble conseriding who he is.

[lefty]

Horace Grant got fat

[baseline bum]

Of course the Lakers got gifted a top 4 pick by Silver

[baseline bum]

I hope NOP gets the #1

[Clipper Nation]

Of course the Lakers got gifted a top 4 pick by Silver

They'll screw it up, unless Silver went all the way and gifted them Zion.

[LkrFan]

Top 4 snitches!! :wow

[Russ]

Of course the Lakers got gifted a top 4 pick by Silver

They'll trade Zion with a couple of weeks left in the season for a 35-year old shooter who can help them down the stretch . . .

[LkrFan]

Of course the Lakers got gifted a top 4 pick by Silver

CP3...

[Laker_1995]

Top 4 LMAO

[lefty]

Yeah let’s trust Ernst Young to oversee the lottery :lol

[baseline bum]

Top 4 snitches!! :wow

Good you can draft another Lonzo

[lefty]

Ffs Rachel Nicols is annoying

[FrostKing]

> Ali documentary

This is new and exciting

[Darth_Pelican]

Let’s go!

[Bynumite]

This is rigged tbh.

[Arcadian]

RNG championship

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Lakers
:lmao Knicks

[Laker_1995]

Pelicans !!!!!!! Lmao Knicks ahahah ahahaha

[Russ]

I hope NOP gets the #1

Yep.

[baseline bum]

Nice :tu

Now they can tell the Lakers to go fuck themselves and sell Davis on having a real chance to be a title contender.

[lefty]

:lol Lakers and Knicks

[LkrFan]

Good you can draft another Lonzo

:lol

[FrostKing]

So what now?

[Texas_Ranger]

lets hope the pelicans don't draft another bitch.

[lefty]

AD “I’m staying”
KD : “hello”

[Clipper Nation]

How long until Davis rescinds his trade demand now that he can ride on Zion's coattails?

[Ditty]

Damn Spurs now have to play Zion and Davis four times a year now :bang

way at better than him on the Lakers or Knicks lmao!

[Darth_Pelican]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Mugen]

The Lakers would have had a championship within the next 2-3 years and would have been set up pretty well for the next 10 years if they had landed Zion.

Thank god, they missed it.

[lefty]

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[Darth_Pelican]

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:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

The Lakers would have had a championship within the next 2-3 years and would have been set up pretty well for the next 10 years if they had landed Zion.

Thank god, they missed it.

Just imagine which bust they're going to reach for at #4.

[LkrFan]

:lmao Lakers
:lmao Knicks

How you figure son? We had a 2% chance. No way Silver gifts us Zion. C'mon man :lol

[Killakobe81]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

Congrats

[Killakobe81]

How you figure son?

Dude we only had a 2% at Zion
And 10 of getting top 4
We won just getting a top pick

[Clipper Nation]

How you figure son? We had a 2% chance. No way Silver gifts us Zion. C'mon man :lol

:lol It's a 2-player draft and you didn't get a top-2 pick. You're shining shoes like the rest of the league.

[Mugen]

Dude we only had a 2% at Zion
And 10 of getting top 4
We won just getting a top pick

Thank goodness it wasn't Zion, Killa. Just thank goodness for that. Should be no AD now as well.

Phew.

[140]

Of course the teams with the same record as the mavs get the top 2 picks :lol fuck this shit tbh

[Mugen]

:lol Spurs 19th pick being better than whoever the Lakers ruin at #4....

[Jonnyblue19]

Lebron is going to demand a trade to the Pelicans.

[Jonnyblue19]

If Davis decides to stay now, they we will able to attract a lot free agents to New Orleans. Now that they have a real GM in David Griffin their future looks bright.

[Laker_1995]

Lebron for #1 pick ? Lmao

[Texas_Ranger]

Of course the teams with the same record as the mavs get the top 2 picks :lol fuck this shit tbh

be happy, at least you can laugh at atlanta.

[baseline bum]

Dude we only had a 2% at Zion
And 10 of getting top 4
We won just getting a top pick

Now you can draft an Ingram replacement who you won't have to worry about dying on you.

[LkrFan]

Dude we only had a 2% at Zion
And 10 of getting top 4
We won just getting a top pick

Hell yeah. CN knows this too. :lol

[LkrFan]

:lol Spurs 19th pick being better than whoever the Lakers ruin at #4....

You really think we keeping that pick? :lol

[Jonnyblue19]

Of course the teams with the same record as the mavs get the top 2 picks :lol fuck this shit tbh


You got Luka last year be happy how stupid the Hawks were to trade him.

[Clipper Nation]

You really think we keeping that pick? :lol

:lol Pelicans certainly aren't taking that trash now that they're already getting Zion. Face it, Diego, it's going to be another lottery season for the Lakers.

[baseline bum]

You got Luka last year be happy how stupid the Hawks were to trade him.

No shit, Trae Young and the #9 pick for a franchise player in Doncic was already a monumental steal. As was getting Porzingod for a guy they didn't want anyways.

[Mugen]

You really think we keeping that pick? :lol

:lol Who cares? As long as it wasn't Zion.

[Jeremy]

I could see AD agreeing to try one more season in NO. Or committing long-term if they agree to trade Zion for LeBron.

[LkrFan]

:lol Who cares? As long as it wasn't Zion.
Zion probably a fake ass Julius Randle. :lol

Anywho:

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:wow

[DAF86]

I can't figure out if the Pelicans winning the lottery supports or dismisses consipiracy theories, tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Pelinka doesn't need to canvas the league, any bum off the street could tell him that #4 is worth nothing in this year's draft.

[Beartrucci]

So close to two outcomes that could've been so good for the league, but Pelicans isn't a terrible outcome compared to some of the other teams.

[Killakobe81]

Im good with the 4th pick.
If we keep it thats fine too ...

We will get a solid young player
Plus the teams that are interested Lonzo like PHX and chicago didnt land in morant territory ...
a great night, tbh.
Prefer we had got #2 at least but i thought for sure we were picking 10th so as jay rock

said ...
win, win win!

[Mugen]

:lol Pelinka doesn't need to canvas the league, any bum off the street could tell him that #4 is worth nothing in this year's draft.

:lol but they could package it with trash like Kuzma! Don't forget that....

[Clipper Nation]

i thought for sure we were picking 10th so as jay rock

said ...
win, win win!
There are only two real prospects in this draft: Zion and Ja. The Lakers aren't getting either of them. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether they ended up picking 4th or 10th.

[Laker_1995]

Faggets mad cause we got a top 5 pick. Suck a dick niggas aha

[phxspurfan]

lol tanking teams got owned

[phxspurfan]

Im good with the 4th pick.
If we keep it thats fine too ...

We will get a solid young player
Plus the teams that are interested Lonzo like PHX and chicago didnt land in morant territory ...
a great night, tbh.
Prefer we had got #2 at least but i thought for sure we were picking 10th so as jay rock

said ...
win, win win!

Cam Reddish

[phxspurfan]

:lol Pelinka doesn't need to canvas the league, any bum off the street could tell him that #4 is worth nothing in this year's draft.

Rui Hoochiemama

[Dennis the Menace]

Im good with the 4th pick.


As you should be. The thing is, Lakers’ development program is mediocre at best. It’ll take 4 or 5 years before that player is performing at a “star” level. Maybe even longer. Lebron’s window will be closed.

4th pick will be packaged for a current star player. That’s their only hope. But no teams in the West are going to make that trade with Lakers.

[phxspurfan]

I could see AD agreeing to try one more season in NO. Or committing long-term if they agree to trade Zion for LeBron.

He would get booed off the court. He quit on them like Kawhi quit on the Spurs

[phxspurfan]

No shit, Trae Young and the #9 pick for a franchise player in Doncic was already a monumental steal. As was getting Porzingod for a guy they didn't want anyways.

Porzingod raped bro he done

[Killakobe81]

There are only two real prospects in this draft: Zion and Ja. The Lakers aren't getting either of them. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether they ended up picking 4th or 10th.

so you say your boy shai went further than that ...so did Donovan Mitchell

you can spin this however you want its a good day

[Killakobe81]

Porzingod raped bro he done

raped got his ass beat cant stay healthy

[baseline bum]

Porzingod raped bro he done

Snitch and Warm Karl did too and no one cares.

[140]

Porzingod raped bro he done


raped got his ass beat cant stay healthy
Neal raped. Kirby raped and got two-pieced. You've nary a room.

Let us proceed...

[Clipper Nation]

so you say your boy shai went further than that ...so did Donovan Mitchell

you can spin this however you want its a good day

Those were different drafts. Last year's draft was especially stacked, as people were saying at the time. This year's draft is completely unimpressive after Ja - the fact that a player like RJ Barrett is the consensus #3 pick says it all.

[Dancelot]

He would get booed off the court. He quit on them like Kawhi quit on the Spurs
Shit at least Davis still played this season

[Beartrucci]

Neal raped. Kirby raped and got two-pieced. You've nary a room.

Let us proceed...

:lol Thread. I had forgotten all about him that strange old man

[Jeremy]

lol tanking teams got owned

Suns weren’t tanking tbh. We were just that bad, especially having no point guard.

[Dirks_Finale]

Didn't Lakers magically move up when they got Lonzo as well?

And who actually ensures this shit isn't rigged?

[LkrFan]

raped got his ass beat cant stay healthy

:lol

[davethedope]

Nba can take its touch fouls and its New Orleans #1 draft picks and shove it all up their ass such a pity Zion's career will never get started... Oh well

[LkrFan]

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:lol

[LkrFan]

Oh and :lmao at the Mavs

[DC23]

This is so fucking rigged lmao

[DC23]

Knicks not getting Zion changes the entire dynamic of free agency re: Kyrie & Durant

[Killakobe81]

Those were different drafts. Last year's draft was especially stacked, as people were saying at the time. This year's draft is completely unimpressive after Ja - the fact that a player like RJ Barrett is the consensus #3 pick says it all.

I dont love this draft either in fact i hated the Kat one tatum one etc ..all wwrre overrated tbh
But stll rather have the 4th pick than 10-12

Im happy your trolling wont work here its been shit sanwich after shit sanwich even a ham & cheese sounds good right now

[LkrFan]

Nice shirt DMC
https://d1too945j5kndq.cloudfront.net/a/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/21053238/shirt-11.jpg

:lol

[LkrFan]

Knicks not getting Zion changes the entire dynamic of free agency re: Kyrie & Durant

:)

[Joseph Kony]

:lol how is it rigged? wouldn't it make more sense for the NBA to gift the #1 pick and most exciting prospect in a long time to the biggest market in the country?

[DC23]

:lol how is it rigged? wouldn't it make more sense for the NBA to gift the #1 pick and most exciting prospect in a long time to the biggest market in the country?
It's rigged because they do it in the backroom. Televise the ping pong balls. Give us full transparency.

[Silver&Black]

It's rigged because they do it in the backroom. Televise the ping pong balls. Give us full transparency.

Every team sends a rep to witness it so there are no shenanigans. Are you saying that they're ALL in on it?

[Jonnyblue19]

It's rigged because they do it in the backroom. Televise the ping pong balls. Give us full transparency.


It could be rigged, but it doesn't help your argument since the Pelicans got him. Why would Silver help the Pelicans it doesn't make sense.

[Dennis the Menace]

:lol how is it rigged? wouldn't it make more sense for the NBA to gift the #1 pick and most exciting prospect in a long time to the biggest market in the country?

Lakers tampered with Pelicans/Davis. Instead of Pelicans going full scorched earth on the league office, the NBA is making amends granting them the #1 pick.

It’s pretty fucking simple. 6% chance of landing it to begin with

[HarlemHeat37]

There's a lottery conspiracy theory literally every year:lol

[Jonnyblue19]

Lakers tampered with Pelicans/Davis. Instead of Pelicans going full scorched earth on the league office, the NBA is making amends granting them the #1 pick.

It’s pretty fucking simple. 6% chance of landing it to begin with


Yes because Silver hates the Lakers and New York which are the biggest markets in the US. So they had a 6% chance vs 14% chance, why don't you go back and look at the past 20 years and see how many teams that had a 14% chance of landing the 1 pick got them before you start talking about conspiracy theories .

[DC23]

It could be rigged, but it doesn't help your argument since the Pelicans got him. Why would Silver help the Pelicans it doesn't make sense.
The Pelicans getting Zion probably makes it easier to trade AD.

Suns, Cavs, Knicks, Hawks & Bulls, had an aggregate 70%+ for 1st pick and none of those teams got the 1st or 2nd pick.

I can't believe the Cavs picked 5th and Suns 6th.

[Silver&Black]

Lakers tampered with Pelicans/Davis. Instead of Pelicans going full scorched earth on the league office, the NBA is making amends granting them the #1 pick.

It’s pretty fucking simple. 6% chance of landing it to begin with

They had a 6% chance and the best odds were teams with 14%. I think some of you guys are going full conspiracy theory when it just doesn't exist.

:lol If you think the NBA wants Zion to go to New Orleans

[Jonnyblue19]

They had a 6% chance and the best odds were teams with 14%. I think some of you guys are going full conspiracy theory when it just doesn't exist.

:lol If you think the NBA wants Zion to go to New Orleans


Exactly, New Orleans the epic center for the NBA.

[DC23]

The odds of the Pelicans, Knicks, Lakers, and Grizzlies being in the top 4 (any order in the top 4) was 3.24%.

[Jonnyblue19]

The odds of the Pelicans, Knicks, Lakers, and Grizzlies being in the top 4 (any order in the top 4) was 3.24%.

You are right this is rigged. I wonder how much the Pelicans paid Silver to get Zion. :wakeup

[DPG21920]

The Hawks logo looks like Pacman

I’ve always said that. Like a crackhead one tooth pac man

[DPG21920]

Dude we only had a 2% at Zion
And 10 of getting top 4
We won just getting a top pick

Absolutely - getting 4 is MASSIVE. Might not be enough for AD but definitely helps trade packages

[Thanos]

:lol how is it rigged? wouldn't it make more sense for the NBA to gift the #1 pick and most exciting prospect in a long time to the biggest market in the country?
Makes more sense businesswise to gift the dying franchise with a barely existent fanbase that’s about to lose the one asset keeping them from moving to Seattle.

[Jonnyblue19]

Makes more sense businesswise to gift the dying franchise with a barely existent fanbase that’s about to lose the one asset keeping them from moving to Seattle.


No it doesn't. The NBA would want them to move to Seattle instead of staying in New Orleans based size of the market. I can't believe people are saying it is rigged because he wen't to non existent market.

[lefty]

I’ve always said that. Like a crackhead one tooth pac man

:lol

[Thanos]

No it doesn't. The NBA would want them to move to Seattle instead of staying in New Orleans based size of the market. I can't believe people are saying it is rigged because he wen't to non existent market.
The NBA doesn’t want a team in Seattle. Seattle is more valuable as leverage, the way the NFL used Los Angeles for all those years. They also invested too much into keeping this team in New Orleans to let them fail now.

[phxspurfan]

Suns weren’t tanking tbh. We were just that bad, especially having no point guard.

better roster than the Spurs tbh

[Jonnyblue19]

The NBA doesn’t want a team in Seattle. Seattle is more valuable as leverage, the way the NFL used Los Angeles for all those years. They also invested too much into keeping this team in New Orleans to let them fail now.

Then it would have made sense for Memphis to have gotten Zion, they are in a lot worse shape than New Orleans. Smaller market and they have no one they can trade. If the Pelicans didn't get Zion, they still have Davis and can get a lot back from him. Memphis is an absolute joke and makes the Pelicans look good, with contracts to Conley and Parsons.

[Killakobe81]

Absolutely - getting 4 is MASSIVE. Might not be enough for AD but definitely helps trade packages

yup.
and im not in the trade everything for Ad camp.
Let someone else do it
if i could get him for Kawhi, Kyrie or porzingis type deal ... sure.

Otherwise let Boston dismantle to get him ...

[FrostKing]

Pelicans have 2/10 best players in the NBA?

[Dennis the Menace]

Would love to see the mock drafts now that the order is finalized

[Silver&Black]

Pelicans have 2/10 best players in the NBA?

The dude hasn't even played 1 NBA minute and you've got him top 10...:lmao

[FrostKing]

The dude hasn't even played 1 NBA minute and you've got him top 10...:lmao
Better than anyone on the court in tonights game

[Darth_Pelican]

Pelicans have 2/10 best players in the NBA?

And probably the most underrated player in the NBA. Jrue’s shutdown D on Lillard was the main reason that the Pels swept WCF participant Blazers last season.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The dude hasn't even played 1 NBA minute and you've got him top 10...:lmao

He's lebron coming out of college basically.

[DMC]

Nice shirt DMC
https://d1too945j5kndq.cloudfront.net/a/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/21053238/shirt-11.jpg

:lol

Thanks,

Nice cap.

[phxspurfan]

And probably the most underrated player in the NBA. Jrue’s shutdown D on Lillard was the main reason that the Pels swept WCF participant Blazers last season.

Does Rondo go back to NO? He'd be a great fit again

[DPG21920]

Something to consider

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[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Congrats to NO fans, very well deserved. Hopefully now they trade Davis’s bitchy ass to Siberia or Canada or something.

[LkrFan]

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:lmao

[spurraider21]

Knicks not getting Zion changes the entire dynamic of free agency re: Kyrie & Durant
its not like they were the odds-on favorite... there were 3 different teams each with a 14% chance

[Dirks_Finale]

Thanks,

Nice cap.:lmao

[Seventyniner]

There's a lottery conspiracy theory literally every year:lol

The league needs the wheel.

[R. DeMurre]

Dell Demps got fired for not getting the AD trade done, but if landing Zion makes Davis stay, New Orleans will be indebted to him forever. Down the road, if the Pelicans win a championship with Zion, AD, & Jrue, it will be because Demps wouldn't take a bad deal.

[Killakobe81]

Dell Demps got fired for not getting the AD trade done, but if landing Zion makes Davis stay, New Orleans will be indebted to him forever. Down the road, if the Pelicans win a championship with Zion, AD, & Jrue, it will be because Demps wouldn't take a bad deal.

I actually like all 3 players but i dont think Ad and zion are a great fit
Zion should be paired with KD or Kawhi if he is gonna ring.

I dont think either guy is leading a title team tbh

[Laker_1995]

As a basketball Fan I would love AD in NY. Their fans are lame but just for entertainment it would be dope. My top FA is kawahi idc bout the rest lol

[DPG21920]

Well good news for Laker fans is people like Zach Lowe think the Lakers youth, value of picks aside, is viewed as better than NY youth.

I don’t agree, but if that is really a consensus, then LA getting #4 should put them in the lead for AD.

But I don’t see how Ingram/Kuz/Zo, especially with 2 years of playing less than 60 games each for Zo/Ingram (along with impact metrics and years in the league) are valued more than Knox/Mitchell.

Beyond that, I think there is a difference in 3rd pick and 4th, and while LA could include future firsts as well, NY has 2 first from Dallas too to add into the mix.

[lefty]

:lol at Zion’s favw when hw realized he wasn’t going to NY or LA

[Laker_1995]

Well good news for Laker fans is people like Zach Lowe think the Lakers youth, value of picks aside, is viewed as better than NY youth.

I don’t agree, but if that is really a consensus, then LA getting #4 should put them in the lead for AD.

But I don’t see how Ingram/Kuz/Zo, especially with 2 years of playing less than 60 games each for Zo/Ingram (along with impact metrics and years in the league) are valued more than Knox/Mitchell.

Beyond that, I think there is a difference in 3rd pick and 4th, and while LA could include future firsts as well, NY has 2 first from Dallas too to add into the mix.


i do like Knox. I heard somebody mention trading Lonzo to Chicago since he likes it there for the 7 pick and Use that for AD. Idk to give up everything for AD who hasn’t proven nothing seems risky idc if our assets are trash as they say I’m happy with them. I’m cool with keeping everyone use the pick and get kawahi ( pray to god)

[lefty]

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[R. DeMurre]

I actually like all 3 players but i dont think Ad and zion are a great fit
Zion should be paired with KD or Kawhi if he is gonna ring.

I dont think either guy is leading a title team tbh

Yeah, I think I agree. Surround Zion with shooters and switchable defenders in the modern NBA.

[Killakobe81]

Well good news for Laker fans is people like Zach Lowe think the Lakers youth, value of picks aside, is viewed as better than NY youth.

I don’t agree, but if that is really a consensus, then LA getting #4 should put them in the lead for AD.

But I don’t see how Ingram/Kuz/Zo, especially with 2 years of playing less than 60 games each for Zo/Ingram (along with impact metrics and years in the league) are valued more than Knox/Mitchell.

Beyond that, I think there is a difference in 3rd pick and 4th, and while LA could include future firsts as well, NY has 2 first from Dallas too to add into the mix.

Outside of Knox I just don't value the Knicks prospects.
and though I agree that #3 has more value than #4
I think RJ is flawed he is a ball dominant iso scorer and you are gonna pair him with Kyrie?

if the idea is to flip RJ sure he has played well with Zion already but Jrue holiday thrives in pnr ...

I do think RJ has more value than WHOMEVER is at #3 he was once the #1 prospect in HS and he had flashes of great play at duke. but I sincerely doubt talent/production wise he is vastly superior to Hunter at Virginia who i think has better metrics but Barrettt is a more aggressive. if hunter had been a top HS prospect with that mindset i think he would be a superior player. Problem is I don't trust my team to get that out him consistently

his final 4 was encouraging, and watching a lot of AAC games i dont see some huge gap between the two players and hunter was clutch AF in the title game.

but if i were the spurs for example, I might value hunter more because he fits the Spurs culture and wouldnt fight DD LMA for touches ...

[DPG21920]

i do like Knox. I heard somebody mention trading Lonzo to Chicago since he likes it there for the 7 pick and Use that for AD. Idk to give up everything for AD who hasn’t proven nothing seems risky idc if our assets are trash as they say I’m happy with them. I’m cool with keeping everyone use the pick and get kawahi ( pray to god)

I agree that flipping the kids for other assets may be the best bet. But I don’t see how keeping them is an option. I really don’t think Kawhi is coming to the Lakers either.

[DPG21920]

Outside of Knox I just don't value the Knicks prospects.
and though I agree that #3 has more value than #4
I think RJ is flawed he is a ball dominant iso scorer and you are gonna pair him with Kyrie?

if the idea is to flip RJ sure he has played well with Zion already but Jrue holiday thrives in pnr ...

I do think RJ has more value than WHOMEVER is at #3 he was once the #1 prospect in HS and he had flashes of great play at duke. but I sincerely doubt talent/production wise he is vastly superior to Hunter at Virginia who i think has better metrics but Barrettt is a more aggressive. if hunter had been a top HS prospect with that mindset i think he would be a superior player. Problem is I don't trust my team to get that out him consistently

his final 4 was encouraging, and watching a lot of AAC games i dont see some huge gap between the two players and hunter was clutch AF in the title game.

but if i were the spurs for example, I might value hunter more because he fits the Spurs culture and wouldnt fight DD LMA for touches ...

I think Mitchell, especially at his age, showed more than anyone out of all the prospects.

[Killakobe81]

I think Mitchell, especially at his age, showed more than anyone out of all the prospects.

Like josh jackson?

I tease.

It's all speculative
I loved Tatum at duke a heck of a lot more than RJ and he had a great playoff run last year but a disturbing one this time and an up and down regular season too ...
Kuzma lost confidence in his shot this year ...
with young kids its always tough to tell.

[ambchang]

i do like Knox. I heard somebody mention trading Lonzo to Chicago since he likes it there for the 7 pick and Use that for AD. Idk to give up everything for AD who hasn’t proven nothing seems risky idc if our assets are trash as they say I’m happy with them. I’m cool with keeping everyone use the pick and get kawahi ( pray to god)

You would have to package the 4th pick with Lonzo in order to get the 7th pick.

[spurraider21]

Yeah, I think I agree. Surround Zion with shooters and switchable defenders in the modern NBA.
anthony davis can shoot and is a switchable defender

i dont understand how they're not a "fit"

but it does appear AD wants out regardless, so kinda moot

[spurraider21]

Outside of Knox I just don't value the Knicks prospects.
and though I agree that #3 has more value than #4
I think RJ is flawed he is a ball dominant iso scorer and you are gonna pair him with Kyrie?

if the idea is to flip RJ sure he has played well with Zion already but Jrue holiday thrives in pnr ...

I do think RJ has more value than WHOMEVER is at #3 he was once the #1 prospect in HS and he had flashes of great play at duke. but I sincerely doubt talent/production wise he is vastly superior to Hunter at Virginia who i think has better metrics but Barrettt is a more aggressive. if hunter had been a top HS prospect with that mindset i think he would be a superior player. Problem is I don't trust my team to get that out him consistently

his final 4 was encouraging, and watching a lot of AAC games i dont see some huge gap between the two players and hunter was clutch AF in the title game.

but if i were the spurs for example, I might value hunter more because he fits the Spurs culture and wouldnt fight DD LMA for touches ...
bad teams will still take the best player instead of being concerned with roster fits. they aren't good enough to sacrifice talent. now, anything is in play with dolan, but if the draft order goes anything but zion-morant-RJ it will be a massive upset

[johnnymoore]

You would have to package the 4th pick with Lonzo in order to get the 7th pick.

LOL.

Pop has gaslighted Pels - they won't trade AD anywhere in the Western Conference and CERTAINLY not to the Lakers.

I expect the Lakers to explore a Sign & Trade with Toronto for Kawhi and to sign Kyrie outright.

[R. DeMurre]

anthony davis can shoot and is a switchable defender

i dont understand how they're not a "fit"

but it does appear AD wants out regardless, so kinda moot


I mean 3 point shooters close to 40%. AD is a career 31% guy from three. But I'm not saying an AD/Zion pairing is impossible, not at all.

[DPG21920]

Like josh jackson?

I tease.

It's all speculative
I loved Tatum at duke a heck of a lot more than RJ and he had a great playoff run last year but a disturbing one this time and an up and down regular season too ...
Kuzma lost confidence in his shot this year ...
with young kids its always tough to tell.

Lol at JJ. Looking wrong on that one. But with Mitchell Robinson he’s been very productive

[R. DeMurre]

its not like they were the odds-on favorite... there were 3 different teams each with a 14% chance

Yeah, I kept reminding friends of this. They had an 86% chance of not getting the #1 pick. A lot of people are bad at math...

[Jules_Winnfield]

Southwest division is talented.

[Arcadian]

Pelicans fan - would you rather Davis stay or be traded?

[Killakobe81]

bad teams will still take the best player instead of being concerned with roster fits. they aren't good enough to sacrifice talent. now, anything is in play with dolan, but if the draft order goes anything but zion-morant-RJ it will be a massive upset

I agree. I would take RJ or Morant (if he falls)
I also agree bad teams like Lakers should draft for talent (BPA) not fit or you get Lonzo who I still like, (not love) but was obviously a best fit pick ...

allim saying I think teh draft is more top 2 than top 3 so Lakers and knicks both missed out ...

[spurraider21]

I agree. I would take RJ or Morant (if he falls)
I also agree bad teams like Lakers should draft for talent (BPA) not fit or you get Lonzo who I still like, (not love) but was obviously a best fit pick ...

allim saying I think teh draft is more top 2 than top 3 so Lakers and knicks both missed out ...
i mean yeah if fit and talent align, its an easier call. but didnt stop the sixers from getting noel/embiid/okafor in consecutive drafts. they also moved up for fultz the year after picking simmons

lakers drafted Zo first, and then figured out what to do with D-Lo later.

[Killakobe81]

Lol at JJ. Looking wrong on that one. But with Mitchell Robinson he’s been very productive

Sure. on a bad team same as Kuzma last year and same to alessor degree with Tatum he had to step up and to his credit did when Celts expectations were low.
Now that he is considered an elite prospect got mins/touches over Hayward and Brown in many cases, struggled to do so.

Just saying outside of fox who got better in year two all of the "elite" young prospects shown flaws or took a step back.

Right now gun t9o may head i think I prefer Luka over all of them including Mitchell Ingram fox Simmons and Tatum
and i absolutely loved Simnons and tatum as rookies ...

Draft is a crapshoot.

[Killakobe81]

i mean yeah if fit and talent align, its an easier call. but didnt stop the sixers from getting noel/embiid/okafor in consecutive drafts. they also moved up for fultz the year after picking simmons

lakers drafted Zo first, and then figured out what to do with D-Lo later.

I get that they nailed Simmons Embiid and Saric but all those other picks were bad. Simmons was no brainer and Embiid fell due to injury. the process worked but if they had drafted better they could have had a potential dynasty. fultz, lol

[Chris Fall]

Lakers should probably forget the Anthony Davis pipedream. Even if the Knicks don’t necessarily have the better offer (arguable either way), there’s a good chance New Orleans simply refuses to deal him to the Lakers just out of spite. The guy the Lakers should target in a trade for the #4 pick is Brad Beal. Wall is out for most of the season, maybe the entire season. There’s a good chance they blow it all up, starting with Beal. #4 and Ingram might even be enough, probably better for cap reasons to give deal both Ingram AND Ball. And Beal is the type of shooter and scorer the Lakers really need next to LeBron. They should still have enough cap room for a $25+ million free agent, possibly up to $33-34 million if they deal both Ingram and Ball. Not enough for Kawhi or KD, but maybe they risk rolling the dice on someone like Boogie. Or just use that cap money on multiple role playing shooters.

LeBron, Beal, Boogie, Kuzma as the core is a big improvement and could be in the mix for a top 4 playoff seed in the West.

[Joseph Kony]

Lakers tampered with Pelicans/Davis. Instead of Pelicans going full scorched earth on the league office, the NBA is making amends granting them the #1 pick.

It’s pretty fucking simple. 6% chance of landing it to begin with
:lol do you understand how a lottery works?

[spurraider21]

Lakers should probably forget the Anthony Davis pipedream. Even if the Knicks don’t necessarily have the better offer (arguable either way), there’s a good chance New Orleans simply refuses to deal him to the Lakers just out of spite. The guy the Lakers should target in a trade for the #4 pick is Brad Beal. Wall is out for most of the season, maybe the entire season. There’s a good chance they blow it all up, starting with Beal. #4 and Ingram might even be enough, probably better for cap reasons to give deal both Ingram AND Ball. And Beal is the type of shooter and scorer the Lakers really need next to LeBron. They should still have enough cap room for a $25+ million free agent, possibly up to $33-34 million if they deal both Ingram and Ball. Not enough for Kawhi or KD, but maybe they risk rolling the dice on someone like Boogie. Or just use that cap money on multiple role playing shooters.

LeBron, Beal, Boogie, Kuzma as the core is a big improvement and could be in the mix for a top 4 playoff seed in the West.
:lol

[LkrFan]

You would have to package the 4th pick with Lonzo in order to get the 7th pick.

:lol

[Killakobe81]

Lakers should probably forget the Anthony Davis pipedream. Even if the Knicks don’t necessarily have the better offer (arguable either way), there’s a good chance New Orleans simply refuses to deal him to the Lakers just out of spite. The guy the Lakers should target in a trade for the #4 pick is Brad Beal. Wall is out for most of the season, maybe the entire season. There’s a good chance they blow it all up, starting with Beal. #4 and Ingram might even be enough, probably better for cap reasons to give deal both Ingram AND Ball. And Beal is the type of shooter and scorer the Lakers really need next to LeBron. They should still have enough cap room for a $25+ million free agent, possibly up to $33-34 million if they deal both Ingram and Ball. Not enough for Kawhi or KD, but maybe they risk rolling the dice on someone like Boogie. Or just use that cap money on multiple role playing shooters.

LeBron, Beal, Boogie, Kuzma as the core is a big improvement and could be in the mix for a top 4 playoff seed in the West.

I say no to boogie.
I agree I wouldn't trade for Ad at a crazy price.
He has only one year left.
I also think beal is a viable target but doubtful the core you propose is enough to be a top 4 team
Also my guess is a team would prefer Kuzma he the only part of lakers young core that has stayed relatively healthy

[Thanos]

lol @ anyone thinking this wasn’t rigged. It hasn’t been this obviously rigged since the last time New Orleans won it.