Martin Luther King Jr. Is Doing Awesome

[Spurtacular]

40 extramarital affairs (that the FBI knows of) and accomplice to rape, according to the latest book. Not to mention that he was a deadbeat dad.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7071713/FBI-tapes-Martin-Luther-King-Jr-40-affairs-laughed-friend-raped-parishioner.html

[Chucho]

Already known. So what?

The good he did outweighed his scumbaggery.

[Nathan89]

Won't be long before the activists try to take down his statue and his name off every street or building.

[Winehole23]

DEEP STATE SPOOKS GOOD NOW

[Pavlov]

40 extramarital affairs (that the FBI knows of) and accomplice to rape, according to the latest book. Not to mention that he was a deadbeat dad.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7071713/FBI-tapes-Martin-Luther-King-Jr-40-affairs-laughed-friend-raped-parishioner.htmlOh, extramarital affairs bad now, derp?

[Spurtacular]

Oh, extramarital affairs bad now, derp?

:lol :cry Muh Pastor Whore Hero :cry :lol

[Spurtacular]

DEEP STATE SPOOKS GOOD NOW

I thought they didn't exist?

[Spurtacular]

Won't be long before the activists try to take down his statue and his name off every street or building.

He told his wife to get him a sandwich. Dude has no shot!

[Pavlov]

:lol :cry Muh Pastor Whore Hero :cry :lolSo you condemn people who have extramarital affairs outright.

No exceptions.

OK.

[Spurtacular]

So you condemn people who have extramarital affairs outright.

No exceptions.

OK.

I think self-styled men of God tend to bring such condemnation on themselves when they whore it up.

[TheGreatYacht]

Who gives a fuck. We got pussy grabber in chief who fucked Stormy Daniels. Republican - "The party of morals and values" turn the other cheek when the guy committing adultery is on team Republican :lol:lol:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

The REAL reason why the Christian right and conservatives smear MLK

https://youtu.be/bSZqUGSliqU

[Nathan89]

Virtually nobody smears mlk.

[TheGreatYacht]

Virtually nobody smears mlk.
Right-Wing Hipster Doofus Smears 'Leech' MLK On MLK Day

https://youtu.be/85VFi43hHKQ



These dudes who claim to hate the "deepstate" use the CIA when it's convenient to their agenda :lol

[Pavlov]

I think self-styled men of God tend to bring such condemnation on themselves when they whore it up.You say adultery is perfectly acceptable otherwise.

OK.

[Spurtacular]

You say adultery is perfectly acceptable otherwise.

OK.

:lmao "NarrativeTalk"
:lmao Psychopav Chump

[Pavlov]

:lmao "NarrativeTalk"
:lmao Psychopav ChumpSo are you saying you don't make exceptions?

Yes or no.

Make yourself crystal clear, derp.

[AaronY]

Won't be long before the activists try to take down his statue and his name off every street or building.
GD youre fucking stupid

[Spurtacular]

So are you saying you don't make exceptions?

Yes or no.

Make yourself crystal clear, derp.

Psychopav wants to ascribe points I didn't make to me, and then is worried about being "crystal clear".

GTFO. Your game is moldy, bitch.

[Pavlov]

Psychopav wants to ascribe points I didn't make to me, and then is worried about being "crystal clear".

GTFO. Your game is moldy, bitch.Do you want to make yourself clear, derp?

[Spurtacular]

Do you want to make yourself clear, derp?

How about you make yourself clear instead of sperm shielding.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGZFhEF7l3U

Yea, cos Trump calls himself a man of God.

:lol Slob

[Pavlov]

How about you make yourself clear instead of sperm shielding.So you don't want to make yourself clear about wanting to be clear.

OK.

[Pavlov]

Yea, cos Trump calls himself a man of God.

:lol SlobDo you think he's a man of God?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

Do you think he's a man of God?

Yes or no.


So you don't want to make yourself clear about wanting to be clear.

OK.

You've been predictably contrarian while voting present / sperm shielding.

:rollin

[Pavlov]

You've been predictably contrarian while voting present / sperm shielding.

:rollinSo you're voting present and sperm shielding on everything from now on?

[Spurtacular]

So you're voting present and sperm shielding on everything from now on?

You haven't said one thing against MLK for being the antithesis of #MePoo.

:lmao I think we know who is going to serious work on the sperm shielding front.
:lmao Par.

[Spurtacular]

Already known. So what?

The good he did outweighed his scumbaggery.

Tell us about this good that he did that outweighs being a total fraud.

[ducks]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7071713/FBI-tapes-Martin-Luther-King-Jr-40-affairs-laughed-friend-raped-parishioner.html

[Winehole23]

Tell us about this good that he did that outweighs being a total fraud.He led a nonviolent mass movement that led to voting rights and civil rights for non-white Americans, but I can see how legal and social equality for folks with a different skin tint might stick in your craw -- in the abortion thread you all but admitted you think "nonwhites" are ipso facto inferior to those with less melanin.

"Lower echelon"

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=279472&page=10&p=9814772&viewfull=1#post9814772

[Spurtacular]

He led a nonviolent mass movement

Except that it wasn't non violent. As well, civil rights was an inevitability; it's disingenuous to heap such great credit onto MLK.

[Winehole23]

Except that it wasn't non violent. As well, civil rights was an inevitability; it's disingenuous to heap such great credit onto MLK.Civil rights for black folks was not an inevitability; nothing is.

I can agree that MLK Jr. may get more credit than he deserves for the the successes of a broad political movement, but to dismiss him as unimportant is pure animus and spite: his influence at the time and ever since has been large.

[Winehole23]

Thanks for not bothering to deny you're a stone cold racist, btw.

[Spurtacular]

Civil rights for black folks was not an inevitability; nothing is.


Sure, it was. The trend has been in that direction since the nation's inception and even before that. Technology only expedited that further.

[Spurtacular]

Thanks for not bothering to deny you're a stone cold racist, btw.

You think I blink when a snowflake calls me a racist out of the blue?

[Winehole23]

Nope, you've obviously come to terms with it.

[Spurtacular]

Nope, you've obviously come to terms with it.

I've come to terms with snowflakes playing that card and thinking I'm supposed to be butthurt about it.

[Winehole23]

Like I said, you're kinda proud of it.

[Winehole23]

What were the notable acts if violence perpetrated by MLK? That wasn't covered in my Soros-approved college textbooks.

[Spurtacular]

Like I said, you're kinda proud of it.

You're the one that quite proudly advocates for the systematic genocide of the black race.

[Winehole23]

You're the one that quite proudly advocates for the systematic genocide of the black race.Do tell. Where did I do that?

[Spurtacular]

What were the notable acts if violence perpetrated by MLK? That wasn't covered in my Soros-approved college textbooks.

Way to blatantly move those goalposts, blakehole. You taking lessons from chump?

[Spurtacular]

Do tell. Where did I do that?

I don't think you're that dumb as to not know exactly what I'm talking about.

[Winehole23]

Way to blatantly move those goalposts, blakehole. You taking lessons from chump?You're the one who said the movement he led wasn't non-violent.

Can you give examples of what you mean?

[Winehole23]

Thanks in advance for your deflection, I'll take my answer off the air.

[Spurtacular]

You're the one who said the movement he led wasn't non-violent.

Can you give examples of what you mean?

Media liked to report that it was peaceful at every turn. Frankly, there were plenty examples of violence by blacks during protests. I'm not surprised that you are so ignorant of history and are now begging me to teach you, blakehole. :lol

[Spurtacular]

Thanks in advance for your deflection, I'll take my answer off the air.

You gonna google some sh** while you're at it, or would you prefer to stay ignorant?

[DMX7]

Sure, it was. The trend has been in that direction since the nation's inception and even before that. Technology only expedited that further.

What the fuck are you talking about?

[Pavlov]

You haven't said one thing against MLK for being the antithesis of #MePoo.Are you for the #metoo movement now?

[Pavlov]

Media liked to report that it was peaceful at every turn. Frankly, there were plenty examples of violence by blacks during protests.Post those reports of MLK protests being violent.

[Spurtacular]

Are you for the #metoo movement now?

Are you against it now?

BTW, still not a bad word to say about MLK from you.

:lmao I called the sperm shielding in advance.

[DMX7]

It was locker room talk.

[Winehole23]

I don't think you're that dumb as to not know exactly what I'm talking about.Can't specify what tyou mean?

What a pity.

[Spurminator]

Not a good look for racist derp in this thread.

[Winehole23]

You gonna google some sh** while you're at it, or would you prefer to stay ignorant?Are you ever going to say what you mean, or are you just clearing your throat?

If you know something, please feel free to share it.

[Chucho]

LOL, dipshit derp getting shit on per par. Dipshit derp talking out his racist ass again, per par. More kids have made it out of Avante's mildew shit cabin than the times derp has made a substantiated statement.

[Pavlov]

Are you against it now?

BTW, still not a bad word to say about MLK from you.

:lmao I called the sperm shielding in advance.What should I be saying about MLK right now?

Make yourself clear.

[Spurtacular]

What should I be saying about MLK right now?

Make yourself clear.

You don't have a stance aside from sperm shielding. Par.

:lol Begging me for the words.

[Spurtacular]

LOL, dipshit derp getting shit on per par. Dipshit derp talking out his racist ass again, per par. More kids have made it out of Avante's mildew shit cabin than the times derp has made a substantiated statement.


Tell us about this good that he did that outweighs being a total fraud.

Good one, crusty. :lol

[Spurtacular]

Are you ever going to say what you mean, or are you just clearing your throat?

If you know something, please feel free to share it.

I've said what I mean. You should stop crying that you're ignorant and do something about it if that bothers you.

[Winehole23]

I can't do anything about the fact you can't back up your BS or say what you mean.

Sounds like a personal problem, tbh.

[Pavlov]

You don't have a stance aside from sperm shielding. Par.

:lol Begging me for the words.It's just rumored right now. Let me know when the files are released. The FBI you are championing here (GOOD NOW) totally had it in for MLK so I'm not going to trust just a summary alleging a rape they did nothing to stop or prosecute.

You refuse to take anything resembling a stance regarding adultery except to condemn one black man.

Why is that?

[Chucho]

Good one, crusty. :lol

Was already answered sufficiently and then you ducked his questions like the dipshit you know you are.

derp with the fail again :rollin

[Chucho]

I can't do anything about the fact you can't back up your BS or say what you mean.

Sounds like a personal problem, tbh.

Vaginitis and severe mental retardation.

[Spurtacular]

Was already answered sufficiently and then you ducked his questions like the dipshit you know you are.

derp with the fail again :rollin

You didn't answer it at all, Crusty.

:rollin

[Spurtacular]

It's just rumored right now. Let me know when the files are released. The FBI you are championing here (GOOD NOW) totally had it in for MLK so I'm not going to trust just a summary alleging a rape they did nothing to stop or prosecute.

You refuse to take anything resembling a stance regarding adultery except to condemn one black man.

Why is that?

:cry It's just rumored. :cry

There's plenty accounts of him being a sleeze bag. It's the worst kept secret out there.

:lmao Sperm shielder

[Pavlov]

:cry It's just rumored. :cry

There's plenty accounts of him being a sleeze bag. It's the worst kept secret out there.

:lmao Sperm shielderI don't doubt he was an adulterer.

So adultery bad or just black man adultery?

[Spurtacular]

I don't doubt he was an adulterer.

So adultery bad or just black man adultery?

Why do you spend pages looking for one little side debate after another without ever taking a stance on matters at hand?

Oh, that's right; you're a certified sperm shielder.

:rollin

[Spurtacular]

I don't doubt he was an adulterer.


:cry I have no doubt; I was just casting aspersions. :cry

:lmao Compulsive Psychopav Chump :lmao

[Spurtacular]

^^^

Somehow won't matter that you make that big a jackass out of yourself. Chumpettes gonna come in declaring victory. :lol

[Pavlov]

Why do you spend pages looking for one little side debate after another without ever taking a stance on matters at hand?

Oh, that's right; you're a certified sperm shielder.

:rollinWhy do you never answer any questions about your own thread topic?

[Pavlov]

:cry I have no doubt; I was just casting aspersions. :cryCasting aspersions at whom?

[ElNono]

IMO, he's doing way better than he thought he would be. Honestly, I don't even think he thought he would have a holiday named after him, or leave such a large and strong legacy...

[Spurtacular]

Casting aspersions at whom?

Nobody said at whom, dipshit.

[Spurtacular]

IMO, he's doing way better than he thought he would be. Honestly, I don't even think he thought he would have a holiday named after him, or leave such a large and strong legacy...

I don't think he would be surprised he became a bigger cog. The philanderer probably would be pleased with people worshiping him though.

[Pavlov]

Nobody said at whom, dipshit.So what aspersions am I casting at no one?

[Spurtacular]

Why do you never answer any questions about your own thread topic?

You almost always don't have a significant positions in regards to the OP. You have no room for complaint.

[Pavlov]

You almost always don't have a significant positions in regards to the OP. You have no room for complaint.I don't think it's going to be as big a deal as you want it to be.

Why do you never answer questions about your own topic?

[ElNono]

I don't think he would be surprised he became a bigger cog. The philanderer probably would be pleased with people worshiping him though.

If we had to revise our heroes with social standards du jour, very few, if any, would survive, tbh... You see this dichotomy play out from fictional characters like Jesus (old testament), to real people like the forefathers (slavery), etc.

But it's a confusing, and oftentimes wrong barometer: what they did in their time was recognized as courageous and changed the course of the nation/world for the better, and it was all largely selfless and at a great personal risk.

[Spurtacular]

If we had to revise our heroes with social standards du jour, very few, if any, would survive, tbh...


Which is fine. Hero worship is not essential.

[Spurtacular]

You see this dichotomy play out...real people like the forefathers (slavery), etc.


At least that's the popular narrative of snowflakes.

[Pavlov]

At least that's the popular narrative of snowflakes.So the founding fathers aren't your heroes?

[Spurtacular]

So the founding fathers aren't your heroes?

Psychopav asking whatever's in front of his face while still voting present. Par.

[ElNono]

At least that's the popular narrative of snowflakes.

It's an uncontestable factual argument. Notice how you instinctively attack the person (by namecalling) instead of attacking the argument instead.

But it's really the same that's happening the other way around. At the time, slavery was the norm, as abhorrent as it was, and it makes sense they would be part of that. It doesn't invalidate any of their selfless sacrifices for a better world/nation.

[Spurtacular]

It's an uncontestable factual argument. Notice how you instinctively attack the person (by namecalling) instead of attacking the argument instead.

But it's really the same that's happening the other way around. At the time, slavery was the norm, as abhorrent as it was, and it makes sense they would be part of that. It doesn't invalidate any of their selfless sacrifices for a better world/nation.

What do you think is incontestable exactly?

I am attacking the character of the en vogue movement against the revisionist history / history out of context. You bet your ass I am.

[ElNono]

What do you think is incontestable exactly?

I am attacking the character of the en vogue movement against the revisionist history / history out of context. You bet your ass I am.

Because it's well documented at least some of them owned slaves. That's firmly incontestable. Even after gaining freedom from the crown, they still owned slaves.

Character assassination attempts are a big, sure L in pretty much any serious argument debate. It's an ancient cop-out to talk about anything that's not the actual argument. A waste of time, basically.

[Winehole23]

that's Spurtacular's forte. basically the only rabbit he has in the rhetorical hat besides naked assertion.

[Spurtacular]

Because it's well documented at least some of them owned slaves. That's firmly incontestable. Even after gaining freedom from the crown, they still owned slaves.

Character assassination attempts are a big, sure L in pretty much any serious argument debate. It's an ancient cop-out to talk about anything that's not the actual argument. A waste of time, basically.

I think you know they played the hand they were dealt and set up a system for abolition. As well, slaves at Mt. Vernon had a high standard of living and were ultimately granted their freedom.

[Pavlov]

Psychopav asking whatever's in front of his face while still voting present. Par.You're voting present on every issue raised.

[Pavlov]

I think you know they played the hand they were dealt and set up a system for abolition. As well, slaves at Mt. Vernon had a high standard of living and were ultimately granted their freedom.Slavery good then.

What was the system for abolition, anyway? Link that up real quick to back up your claim.

[Spurtacular]

that's Spurtacular's forte. basically the only rabbit he has in the rhetorical hat besides naked assertion.

Not sure what you're whining about; but enjoy your grudge posting, blakehole.

[Spurtacular]

Slavery good then.

If it were, they would have set up a Constitution that enabled it for futurity.

[Pavlov]

If it were, they would have set up a Constitution that enabled it for futurity.What set it up to end, specifically?

[ElNono]

I think you know they played the hand they were dealt and set up a system for abolition. As well, slaves at Mt. Vernon had a high standard of living and were ultimately granted their freedom.

I honestly don't think abolition entered the picture at all for them, nor they had any intention to get involved in that. And yet, I also don't think that makes them bad people or invalidates their selfless pursuit for freedom for themselves and any other non-slave Americans. Conflating both arguments is short-sighted.

At the time, abolition wasn't even a thought, and slavery was pretty well established, both in the Americas and Europe. While we look at slavery as an abomination now, rightly so, it was a social norm and rule back in those days. There's no reason that they would or should feel ashamed in it (don't really recall any 'woke' abolitionist writer from the era).

I would even counter that not owning slaves was a sign of a lower social level. That's why trying to discuss 'benevolent' slavery is another modern point that's really unnecessary and akin to arguing that leukemia is better than alzheimer. While technically it might be true, objectively they both represent near death and I don't think it gives those affected any warmer feelings. That's the kind of stuff the unaffected say trying to rationalize an incredibly shitty situation.

I think when people bring up that the forefathers were slave owners, the answer is simply that they were not perfect, almost no hero that's human can make that claim, and yet that shouldn't count against their selfless and courageous pursuit for the birth of this great nation. Which is pretty much the same as almost every other remarkable individual(s) we celebrate.

[Spurtacular]

I honestly don't think abolition entered the picture at all for them

Then you don't know the history very well. Granted it was not something openly discussed at the constitutional convention because they knew that was a deal killer for ratification among southern states.

You'll find in 1784 that one Thomas Jefferson came up one vote short of outlawing slavery in any new states added. He and others attempted to have abolition by 1800 as well.

[Spurtacular]

At the time, abolition wasn't even a thought, and slavery was pretty well established, both in the Americas and Europe.

SMH. There were plenty of abolitionists throughout the history of America. Many abolitionist newspapers, etc.

[ElNono]

Then you don't know the history very well. Granted it was not something openly discussed at the constitutional convention because they knew that was a deal killer for ratification among southern states.

You'll find in 1784 that one Thomas Jefferson came up one vote short of outlawing slavery in any new states added. He and others attempted to have abolition by 1800 as well.

Thomas Jefferson owned 500+ African American slaves throughout his whole life and freed only 7, while running a plantation in Virginia. If you read this today, you would think this was an incredibly evil man, but the reality of the time is that slaves were assets, and surrendering them would've meant financial ruin for him and his family.

He also held the view that slaves shouldn't be freed without enough training or education (gradual emancipation). Again, in today's term, a horrendous view, but at the time that was likely fairly progressive.


SMH. There were plenty of abolitionists throughout the history of America. Many abolitionist newspapers, etc.

The closest argument you can make about this is 1804, when both the US (with Jefferson as president) and Britain, outlawed the *international trade* of slaves.

I don't completely disagree with your view that the table just wasn't set to end slavery back then, but the main reason for that is that slavery was a major functional part of war and economics at the time, which is the point I was making: it was simply ingrained in society.

It would take almost another century until the Civil War would break out over this issue in a more concrete way.

[TheGreatYacht]

Slavery never ended. It got morphed into what's now called wage slavery where the poor and working class (poor whites, blacks, Hispanics) have the need to participate or else they will starve to death.

Religion was invented by these same elites to brainwash and submit us into voluntary slavery.

[Spurminator]

Slavery never ended. It got morphed into what's now called wage slavery where the poor and working class (poor whites, blacks, Hispanics) have the need to participate or else they will starve to death.

Religion was invented by these same elites to brainwash and submit us into voluntary slavery.

Religion was invented in the late 19th century?

[boutons_deux]

Religion was invented as a means of social control when tribes became too big, rewarding "good" behaviour (which includes the subjects giving their money to the priests) with promises of heaven, and punishing bad behavior with promises of hell.

And of course, religion is fundamentally about the politics of its own self-sustenance, and of power over people, power self-invested in the priesthood.

[FrostKing]

Religion was invented as a means of social control when tribes became too big, rewarding "good" behaviour (which includes the subjects giving their money to the priests) with promises of heaven, and punishing bad behavior with promises of hell.

And of course, religion is fundamentally about the politics of its own self-sustenance, and of power over people, power self-invested in the priesthood.
That is what it morphed into (in many cases). Originally it was simply a belief system in hopes of something better down the road to cope with miserable times.

People gravitate towards religion in times of struggle and that still rings true today.

[boutons_deux]

something better down the road was only happy, pain-free life in heaven after death, and the priest were the dictators of what the followers were supposed to do.

[FrostKing]

Won't be long before the activists try to take down his statue and his name off every street or building.
Media Censorship in full throttle

[Pavlov]

Media Censorship in full throttleCensoring what?

[TheGreatYacht]

MLK Day: Remembering His Radical Economic Legacy

https://youtu.be/qkcolZnYX1Q