Death Stranding

[Xevious]

Gets a November 2019 release date.

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[Xevious]

We should be getting a new Last of Us 2 trailer and release date pretty soon also.

[baseline bum]

Holy fuck I was thinking late 2020 or early 2021

[baseline bum]

How did Sony not go to E3 this year when they have this to show off?

[aj3292]

We should be getting a new Last of Us 2 trailer and release date pretty soon also.

Originally I was thinking that something like Nov 2019 might be the release date for TLOU 2 as well, but now I'm thinking it might come out later so it doesn't get overshadowed by Death Stranding.

[baseline bum]

Originally I was thinking that something like Nov 2019 might be the release date for TLOU 2 as well, but now I'm thinking it might come out later so it doesn't get overshadowed by Death Stranding.

Prob Spring 2020 for that one.

[Reck]

Holy fuck I was thinking late 2020 or early 2021

Impressive by Kojima standards. His games usually bake for at least 5 years and then a couple more for that cooling off period.

This will be a nice birthday present to myself.

[baseline bum]

Impressive by Kojima standards. His games usually bake for at least 5 years and then a couple more for that cooling off period.

This will be a nice birthday present to myself.

Damn looks like they're really getting a lot out of Horizon Zero Dawn's engine too. I wonder if my PS4 Slim will be able to run it at a consistent framerate, or if it'll be sub-30 fps like The Last of Us was on PS3.

[Xevious]

Originally I was thinking that something like Nov 2019 might be the release date for TLOU 2 as well, but now I'm thinking it might come out later so it doesn't get overshadowed by Death Stranding.

That's what I was thinking. Multiple sources online were saying that Naughty Dog was going to break radio silence this week and announce a release date, but then this drops. Now I'm not sure. Spring 2020 is probably a safe bet though.

[aj3292]

That's what I was thinking. Multiple sources online were saying that Naughty Dog was going to break radio silence this week and announce a release date, but then this drops. Now I'm not sure. Spring 2020 is probably a safe bet though.

I agree. I'd be surprised if it's any later than that.

[Xevious]

Man, I don't know. This game kind of looks like shit. Every review I've seen seems to have a hard time defining what it actually is other than a walking sim with huge exposition dumps in true Kojima fashion. The vast majority of gameplay is inventory management and environment traversal. The combat is almost 100% avoidable, which is okay, but then when you are forced to fight as part of the storyline, it's very basic. I've seen several sources say that the intro (first 10-15 hours) is one of the worst they've ever played and expect many players to quit before actually getting to the meat of the game.

I think it's telling that none of the trailers give you any indication what the gameplay is like or what the storyline is about. I may still give it a shot sometime down the road, but not for $60.

[baseline bum]

I think it's telling that none of the trailers give you any indication what the gameplay is like or what the storyline is about. I may still give it a shot sometime down the road, but not for $60.

Yeah, this is a $20 buy for me.

[Joseph Kony]

i've been playing it the last two days since i redbox'd it. wanted to see what all the hype was about. it sucks

[apalisoc_9]

The game sucks.

Great story, awesome graphics..But Gameplay is boring and nonexistent.

The actors are above average.


6/10

[LaMarcus Bryant]

:(

[spurraider21]

a game has to be pretty special for me to buy it at full retail... this aint it

[Reck]

I didn't buy it on first day because the last week or so has been pretty fucking cold as shit so I just ordered it on Amazon last night.

You guys sound like sensitive little girls about this game being a slow burner. If you're not shooting people in the face in the first 10 minutes, the game sucks. :cry

I dont mind slow games when I know the game has room to pick up later. This game is supposed to be 50 hours long. I have experience with these types of games. Shenmue, Legend of Legaia, Kindom Hearts 2, etc.

The payoff has always been pretty awesome at the end.

[Joseph Kony]

I didn't buy it on first day because the last week or so has been pretty fucking cold as shit so I just ordered it on Amazon last night.

You guys sound like sensitive little girls about this game being a slow burner. If you're not shooting people in the face in the first 10 minutes, the game sucks. :cry

I dont mind slow games when I know the game has room to pick up later. This game is supposed to be 50 hours long. I have experience with these types of games. Shenmue, Legend of Legaia, Kindom Hearts 2, etc.

The payoff has always been pretty awesome at the end.

No, it's trash. has nothing to do with there not being people to shoot. shit game deserves a shit review. im guessing youre one of those kojima fanboys? :lol

[Reck]

No, it's trash. has nothing to do with there not being people to shoot. shit game deserves a shit review. im guessing youre one of those kojima fanboys? :lol

Damn straight I'm a fanboy. :lol

This game is getting great reviews everywhere. What exactly dont you like about it?

Most negative reactions I've seen use the walking simulator excuse to shit on it.

[Leetonidas]

I've seen a lot of negative reviews too tbh
Seems like one of those games you either like or don't. Kojima has a cult following so of course there are ppl who will rave about this game simply for that fact. But I've played it a bit and it's just not my thing. And the walking simulator thing is a valid criticism of the game tbh. The whole game is delivering packages :lol

[Joseph Kony]

Damn straight I'm a fanboy. :lol

This game is getting great reviews everywhere. What exactly dont you like about it?

Most negative reactions I've seen use the walking simulator excuse to shit on it.

its just boring imo. players shouldnt have to pour 10 hours into a game to get to "the good parts." and for someone like myself who doesnt have tons of free time, a game like this just really isnt my thing. if you end up liking it, great, i'm sure if youre a Kojima fan and enjoy his story telling you'll probably like it. but it's just boring imho. i dont find the story particularly interesting nor the way it is unfolding to be all that captivating. and the walking thing too. just my two cents

[Xevious]

I didn't buy it on first day because the last week or so has been pretty fucking cold as shit so I just ordered it on Amazon last night.

You guys sound like sensitive little girls about this game being a slow burner. If you're not shooting people in the face in the first 10 minutes, the game sucks. :cry

I dont mind slow games when I know the game has room to pick up later. This game is supposed to be 50 hours long. I have experience with these types of games. Shenmue, Legend of Legaia, Kindom Hearts 2, etc.

The payoff has always been pretty awesome at the end.
Those games were actually fun to play though, that's the difference. I love slower, story-driven games too, but there needs to be balance with gameplay. By that same token, I don't care for games with an over-emphasis on gameplay and no storyline.

[Reck]

You guys make good points. I'll just have to experience it for myself and see.

[Xevious]

You guys make good points. I'll just have to experience it for myself and see.
Let us know what you think. I am curious what Kojima does now that he's no longer with Konami. But overall I felt the pacing on his games was way off. Now that he has nobody looking over his shoulder, it'll be even worse I bet.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I don't mind a game taking 10 hours to get good.
If it were on sale and on Xbox I'd prob give it a whirl

[ElNono]

I've got a copy, been playing it... it's just not a combat game...

[DJR210]

:cry but but it's original IP :cry
:cry but but it's Kojima :cry
:cry but but risks must be taken :cry
:cry but but game reviewers who say this sucks are just haters :cry

[spurraider21]

I didn't buy it on first day because the last week or so has been pretty fucking cold as shit so I just ordered it on Amazon last night.

You guys sound like sensitive little girls about this game being a slow burner. If you're not shooting people in the face in the first 10 minutes, the game sucks. :cry

I dont mind slow games when I know the game has room to pick up later. This game is supposed to be 50 hours long. I have experience with these types of games. Shenmue, Legend of Legaia, Kindom Hearts 2, etc.

The payoff has always been pretty awesome at the end.
Guy who is upset that people aren’t in love with a game just because it’s made by kojima is calling others sensitive

[Reck]

Guy who is upset that people aren’t in love with a game just because it’s made by kojima is calling others sensitive

LOL upset.

Derp level response.

[apalisoc_9]

after reaching chaper 4

I have to say...This game takes a lot of elements from older games that involves very little gameplay/action and reinvents it to a level gaming hasnt seen. Think of Silent Hill in a large open world.

Its better than the 4-5 idiots are giving it. But it is certainly not a 9 or 10 by modern standards. The lack of gameplay and the convulated story bits drops it to 7-8 territory..its not a game for everyone.

Kojima is way to obssessed with Hollywood and White America he forgot that Video games is Gameplay.

Also Reck you shouldnt be supporting this game. There is an easter egg that hints at kojima being a trump loving uncle chan. I wouldnt be supporting kojima if I had your political beliefs

[AussieFanKurt]

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[AussieFanKurt]

I'm only about 7 hours in so I have just been walking around. I don't mind it tbh. Story seems pretty good and there is enough *mystery* that I want to keep going. Heard that once you get past the initial two chapters that it opens up etc

[Xevious]

I've got a copy, been playing it... it's just not a combat game...
That's fine... is it fun though?

[spurraider21]

you shouldnt be supporting this game. There is an easter egg that hints at kojima being a trump loving uncle chan. I wouldnt be supporting kojima if I had your political beliefs
Thats retarded. If hitler himself made god of war I’d still play it. I’m not buying the makers personal beliefs I’m buying a game

[apalisoc_9]

I'm only about 7 hours in so I have just been walking around. I don't mind it tbh. Story seems pretty good and there is enough *mystery* that I want to keep going. Heard that once you get past the initial two chapters that it opens up etc

yeah. chapter 3...is when it gets good

[DJR210]

Thats retarded. If hitler himself made god of war I’d still play it. I’m not buying the makers personal beliefs I’m buying a game

+1

[spurraider21]

RDR2 started out painfully slow as a walking/horse simulator and then what was basically a very long tutorial, then it got good.

i have no problem with a game taking time to establish everything. but the from the extremely limited info i have, its not like it picks up that drastically even later.

[Reck]

Kojima is way to obssessed with Hollywood and White America he forgot that Video games is Gameplay.

Also Reck you shouldnt be supporting this game. There is an easter egg that hints at kojima being a trump loving uncle chan. I wouldnt be supporting kojima if I had your political beliefs

I see no reason to equate the guy's ability to make good video games (Despite this one being a mixed bag of good and bad) to his personal life and his political views.

And the fact he's into American movies is a good thing. That makes him diverse and culturally open minded. He can suck Trump's orange cock for all I care.

[apalisoc_9]

its funny how blames american taste. The reality is that, the critism are all valid. bad gameplay, convuloted story....

[Reck]

its funny how blames american taste. The reality is that, the critism are all valid. bad gameplay, convuloted story....

There seems to be a couple of bad translations. One has Kojima saying Americans love FPS more and another one has it as him saying Americans preference first lies on FPS games and that may be why his game doesn't appeal as strongly as it does for the people in Japan and Europe.

[DJR210]

its funny how blames american taste. The reality is that, the critism are all valid. bad gameplay, convuloted story....

Yeah he's a fucking idiot. Metal Gear Solid is obviously a huge franchise here, but this was the best he could come up with. I think gamers in general just prefer good games.

[Joseph Kony]

lol...convoluted story that takes 10+ hours to even unravel: "people just arent getting it" :lmao :lmao nah fam, your game is just bland and uninteresting. who cares if you have retarded sci-fi story thats "deep af" :lmao


tbh i dont get why gamers semen shield for developers. like, does anyone think i played this game with the intent of shitting on it? it was mega hyped, i wanted to see what the fuss was about so i rented it, and it was pretty boring and didnt interest me. so of course you get the "hurr durr go play CoD" response because if your game is boring it must be because we have short attention spans and only enjoy shooting things right? :rolleyes

[ElNono]

That's fine... is it fun though?

The combat sure isn't, that's why I'm just actively trying to avoid it and advance the story. The exploration aspect is good (not great), and the story is kinda weird but compelling enough to make me keep going.

Still not really sure how I feel about this game. I know it's not a masterpiece already...

[Reck]

Got the game delivered today. But won't play until Sunday or later into next week.

Currently in the middle of playing Nier. Loving the change of pace from P5.

[Trainwreck2100]

I don't get why people hate a game like this, but some slobbed over telltale game's trash.

[DMC]

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Reck finds a Kojima turd

[Reck]

So I played the first hour and a half of the game and my initial thoughts about it is I agree with what most of what you guys have said already.

Often you have to walk entire fields from one end to the next. It's kind of crazy.

If not for the music that acompanies you, you'd probably fall asleep just walking endlessly. The story though it's mysterious and good enough to push you to the next goal.

[Reck]

So I played the first hour and a half of the game and my initial thoughts about it is I agree with what most of what you guys have said already.

Often you have to walk entire fields from one end to the next. It's kind of crazy.

If not for the music that acompanies you, you'd probably fall asleep just walking endlessly. The story though it's mysterious and good enough to push you to the next goal.

I will also say this game is ripe for the people who like to 100% games. This game wants you to collect this or that and get a certain rank and I like that.

[Leetonidas]

So I played the first hour and a half of the game and my initial thoughts about it is I agree with what most of what you guys have said already.

Often you have to walk entire fields from one end to the next. It's kind of crazy.

If not for the music that acompanies you, you'd probably fall asleep just walking endlessly. The story though it's mysterious and good enough to push you to the next goal.

let me know what you think after 10 more hours :lol i played for about that much time until i decided it wasnt for me

[Reck]

let me know what you think after 10 more hours :lol i played for about that much time until i decided it wasnt for me

:lol This game is proving to be everything you guys say it was. It's so boring and so so very repetitive. Down to the fucking animations.

But I was told by a friend to wait it out to chapter 4. That's when supposedly things get back to a normal type of game. I'm still on chapter 2 with about 4 hours logged in.

I'm minimizing the boredom by playing an hour a night while infusing some fun with other games.

[ElNono]

Before you throw your gamepad away, press Options to skip the stupidly repetitive cutscenes

[apalisoc_9]

the nsrrative and world setting is good...but you cant survive without gameplay. its not possible

[Leetonidas]

:lol This game is proving to be everything you guys say it was. It's so boring and so so very repetitive. Down to the fucking animations.

But I was told by a friend to wait it out to chapter 4. That's when supposedly things get back to a normal type of game. I'm still on chapter 2 with about 4 hours logged in.

I'm minimizing the boredom by playing an hour a night while infusing some fun with other games.

see lol. thats the thing, im sure it picks up at some point but after playing 5-10 hours you already get a feel for how the gameplay is and the story taking so long to unfold just makes you not really care about getting to the point where it "Gets good" because the gameplay makes it feel like a chore. imho at least

[spurraider21]

see lol. thats the thing, im sure it picks up at some point but after playing 5-10 hours you already get a feel for how the gameplay is and the story taking so long to unfold just makes you not really care about getting to the point where it "Gets good" because the gameplay makes it feel like a chore. imho at least
yeah its like when a friend wants to show you a song they think is cool and then 3 minutes in it sucks and they're like "no no its about to get good here"... by that point idgaf. im not gonna sit through 80% of shit just to maybe get payoff

[baseline bum]

yeah its like when a friend wants to show you a song they think is cool and then 3 minutes in it sucks and they're like "no no its about to get good here"... by that point idgaf. im not gonna sit through 80% of shit just to maybe get payoff

Kind of how I feel about RDR2.

[spurraider21]

Kind of how I feel about RDR2.
RDR2 certainly has some of that factor, but not nearly as egregious from what i've read about Death Stranding... Chapter 1 in the snowy mountain is just an exposition fest. but in that one, chapter 1 is easily the shortest in the game. when i think back on playing through RDR2, that part of the game barely registers tbh

i will say, its also similar to what i've read about Death Stranding in that even the traversal/player movement can feel like a chore. walking around and interacting with items feels very tedious early on. the horse riding has more 'realism' than RDR1 so you end up falling off of it and crashing into things quite a bit. i've been playing the original RDR for the first time, and it feels a lot more arcade-like than RDR2, which makes for a smoother experience. but at the same time after having played through RDR2 first, it feels like im in the stone age. hard to go back from that kind of realism

[apalisoc_9]

Kind of how I feel about RDR2.

rdr2 has gameplay amd combat and lots of other things

[Reck]

rdr2 has gameplay amd combat and lots of other things

Funny you keep telling people to play Sekiro but Sekiro has another problem. No story, all gameplay.

Gets repetitive too from what I have seem.

[apalisoc_9]

Funny you keep telling people to play Sekiro but Sekiro has another problem. No story, all gameplay.

Gets repetitive too from what I have seem.

sekiro has a story and its a game not a movie. Reptitive?

get out of here.

Sekiro combat is the most invative comabat system since bloodborne/souls.

its a souls game that isnt a souls game. thats how innovative it is. By far most satisfying combat.

plus unanimously agreed upon as a great game even those wh o quit.

Its too hard for some people. i get it.

[Reck]

I feel like I'm a couple of hours away from the end. Lots of things happening at once.

Be glad to put an end to this and continue my Nier playthrough which I stopped for this.

[Xevious]

How's the story, at least?

[Reck]

How's the story, at least?

The saving grace, imo.

It's nothing spectacular but it doesn't leave a bitter taste in your mouth. To me, this game is better seen in a narrative light. Like the Telltale games.

Go to point A and B to trigger the next storyline cutscene etc.

[DMC]

I think it depends. Do you want role playing with a huge storyline or do you want to start fucking shit up? Are you the kind who, in COD MW, killed everyone especially if your Sgt told hold your fire, sneak past? I shoot everything. I don't buy games to hold my fire.

Some story is ok, but I don't care for a movie with a few choices like the Black Mirror shit some time ago.