My big concern about Jack leaving

[Mark in Austin]

I really think this offseason we have built in enough redundancies to make up for Jack walking in every area but one.

Jack was absolutely FEARLESS. I just don't see that in any other player on the roster, new or old. Parker has big nuts, Manu is amazing, Tim is the best, and Hedo looks promising...
But when another team is tripling Duncan and daring others to shoot, the guy I know will never back away from the challenge and shoot his shot with confidence is Jack. Some people criticize him for this, but I think this is the best part of his game. Sure, he might commit seven turnovers in the first 3 quarters, but he doesn't let that effect him in the fourth. It's rare to have a player who can shake off a bad performance and bounce back like Jack does. I think that this trait is the most important thing he brings to the Spurs, and it is what the Spurs will really miss if he goes somewhere else.

Is he worth the full MLE? No, but he's not a dime a dozen player, either.

[Temple Of The Dog]

jax played with alot of emotion and heart. he came through big time... but i don't think jaxs would have been starting on any other western conference playoff team last year. he has alot of raw talent though. i'm going to miss him because he never took any crap from anyone...

[spurster]

I dislike all the changes to the championship rotation. DRob, Speedy, and now SJax are gone, two starters and a key backup. I agree that SJax has a sweet stroke though, but unfortunately SJax also has a lousy agent.

[Temple Of The Dog]

cool cartoon spurster... i think the guy needs more capspace though! :) and i echo the sentiment on speedy. i think we'll miss him more than we think.

[exstatic]

Horry has got big nuts. Don't overlook our new dudes. If he is used correctly, he can be every bit as effective late in games as Jack was.

I like Jack, and agree both that he is not an MCE player (yet) or dime a dozen. I think what the Spurs offered was not dime a dozen money.

His agent is a dick, not like Babby, who has no interest whether their guys signs here or there, or for how much. Babby takes an hourly legal fee, NOT a percentage of the contract. If more players were smart, this would become the agent model for pro sports.

[SkinDogg]

I will certainly miss Jack when he leaves.

Going into the 2003 playoffs, the player I wondered the most about was Jackson. Tony and Manu both didn't seem to be scared of anything. Bowen didn't play that bad against the Lakers in '02. Robinson, Tim, and Malik had all been there before. I figured Jack would be a wildcard of sorts and might crumble under the pressure.

Strangely enough, he came out of the gates better than anyone else with back to back to back 20 point nights. Then we saw him light up Dallas and the Nets in the game 6's. I also seem to remember him hitting two 3's in the fourth quarter of the game 6 against Phoenix and that he didn't play well for the first three quarters of it.

It seemed like he was exactly what the team needed. Always getting them hyped up and making sure that they never gave up. Throw in his cluth shooting, his modesty, and his ability to work hard and it seemed like a perfect fit.

Fvck you, Fegan.:depressed

[Ghost Writer]

That's right, Mark. Homers always rag on me about my affection for ballas, but it's funny that the year we finally get a couple in Jackson and Claxton, we get two kids who sack up and get the job done in the playoffs.

Jackson carried the Spurs on offense in the Phoeniz series and kept them in the critical Dallas game where Kerr went off.

Claxton game in for Parker and bailed the Spurs out of the last two games of the Finals.

That type of fearlessness is a commodity.

Talent notwithstanding, I'm afraid the Spurs look awfully soft on paper next year.


:cooldevil

[Spursman]

Things I won't miss about Jackson:
1> Butter fingers
2> Bad attitude

Don't get me wrong, I liked Jackson, but there were some things that rubbed me raw, these were the two main things.

[KoriEllis]

Bad attitude

:wtf

When did Jack have a bad attitude?

[Ghost Writer]

I think Spursman equates "bad attitude" with being young and black.

:cooldevil

[travis2]

you know...as far as I'm concerned, you just called him a racist...and I would expect much more evidence before you drop that bomb around anyone...it is just not something to toss around as blithely as you seem to do...

[KoriEllis]

I am just shocked at the term "bad attitude" in association with Jack. He was an emotional leader, always pumping everyone up. He was sincerely appreciative of the chance that Pop and the Spurs gave him. He was a hard worker. He knew his role. He worked his ass off on defense. Yes, sometimes he got too "high" and need to be calmed down. Sometimes he got into turnover mode. But he saved this team throughout the season and many times during the playoffs -- particularly the Phoenix series and game six of the Finals. Whenever I interviewed Jack, he would always shake hands or say, "Thank you very much" when we were done. He was truly classy and thankful of being giving an opportunity to play in SA.

This summer, he chose to let his agent completely handle his negotiations with the Spurs, which may not have been the brightest move of all time because it seems to have led to his departure from the Spurs. But "bad attitude"?? I just don't get it.

[Ghost Writer]

travis, STFU.

I object to you calling me someone who would call someone else a racist.

There are certain posters where who simply hate ballas, plain and simple.

Funny, I don't they were complaining when Jackson and Claxton were the only ones with enough b@lls to step up in big spots last seaosn on a regular basisi.

:cooldevil

[SequSpur]

I noticed there was an ad for a Silver Dancer Choreographer in the newspaper this Sunday. (Seriously)

I think this would be a great position for Stephen Jackson. He is great at turnovers, he could turnover a few chicks here and there.. He is emotional, women like emotional people. He has always led the crowd during timeouts.

I think he would be great for the job.

:smokin

[travis2]

GhostWhiner, come and make me...:flipoff


I think Spursman equates "bad attitude" with being young and black.

Parse it however you like...you are dropping the racist card. And you've done it before...your whole shtick about "balla haters" is nothing more than trying to cow people into coming to your side by calling them racists. It is offensive and frankly I've had enough of you.

There are so many REAL racists in this world that you and others that throw the racism card as though it were a frisbee do a great disservice. I wish you would just stop.

[SequSpur]

GW hates white people.

:fro

[picnroll]

Definitiely Jack was emotional and would get upset when he screwed up or when he felt he was getting jobbed by the refs and sometimes he needed to be reeled in to not stew about it and get re-focused. But ...

In addition to losing Jack's clutch performances in the fourth where he stepped up his game and saved the SPurs bacon, we're also losing a very large part of the team chemistry. Jack was the chest bumping emotional leader of the team. He is the kind of guy, it seems, that every just wants to be around and feels better when they're around him.

Jack you said you were going to play with Manu for the rest of your career. If it wasn't the FO but was Fegan that you let screw up things then you're a butt head. :cuss

[travis2]

SequSpur, I'm not interested in getting into a "who is/who isn't" argument. I don't care for "racist" tags from anyone...

[Ghost Writer]

:rollin

travis, you little twit.

How is Spursman a racist if he hates young, black basketball players?

Don't speak for anyone else here, pal. You can hardly speak for yourself.

I find it funny how a team notorious for being soft in the clutch is coolwith losing two of its only prime time performers.

Anything to get rid of those ballas, huh?

:Q




:cooldevil

[CrazyOne]

Umm, GW.. to claim that someone dislikes a player because they're black is, well, calling them racist...

[SequSpur]

Actually trav.. its a legit argument. Some people don't like the balla style of some players ala Iverson, Sprewell, Jackson, etc. etc.

Does that make them a racist? Possibly. GW is referring to the fact that all of these guys are bad azz ballplayers however they have this balla style about them and that may be clouding someones vision or stereotyping a player.

If you overlook a players ability because of the bling bling or the street cred, then you should take up soccer or fishing or women's bowling..

Its all about the W brotha. Screw the rest.

[travis2]

You leave me speechless...

I have never been accused of being politically correct...but even I can see the absolute idiocy of your statements and the harm you wreak thereby.


How is Spursman a racist if he hates young, black basketball players?

If I have to explain such a self-evident statement to you...then there is no hope of you ever understanding.

I will not prove myself a hypocrite by calling you a racist. Merely a complete fool.

[adidas11]

That's a load of BS, calling Jax a player with a "bad attitude"

Can you specifically point out instances that Jax displayed this "bad attitude"? That would be very helpful in substantiating your claim.

Pathetic.

[travis2]

SequSpur, my post to you was basically saying "I'm calling him out for dropping the 'racist' bomb...don't you start either."

I understand that some people don't like the "balla" style. And some of those who don't like the "balla" style may very well be racist.

But what GhostWhiner is asserting is that anyone who doesn't like "ballas" is a racist.

And notice he didn't use the term "balla" in the phrase I took issue with. He used young and black. Saying that someone doesn't like a player because he is young and black is calling him a racist. I'm sorry, but there is no other rational interpretation possible.

[SequSpur]

"Bad Attitude"???????? Definitely not.

More like Bad Decision Making.

Not only did he have 68 turnovers in the playoffs, he is now leading the league in losing a guaranteed contract worth millions of dollars.

[KoriEllis]

I think that people are getting confused by terminology here.

When GW says that someone doesn't like young, black players AKA ballas. That has nothing to do with their skin-color. He is referring to players that are "street" -- incredible athletes, who lack fundamentals and disclipline, but possess toughness, enthusiam and attitude.

It's not a race thing -- there are caucasian ballas.

Get off the race issue -- all of you!

[SAmikeyp]

Amen. Can't we judge someone by their talent and not the color of their skin?

[travis2]

I understand what you're saying, Kori...but he didn't say "balla" or "street". He said "young and black". That's completely different.

Nevertheless...consider it dropped on my part...

[genghisrex]

I think Spursman may have been referring to the 2-3 times during the playoffs (that I saw at least) that Stephen got pulled early and appeared to go mope in the corner away from the coaches and most of his teammates. That rubbed me the wrong way too, but as a general rule I wouldn't describe Stephen as having a bad attitude.

[Ghost Writer]

Sequ is right. I meant "ballas" by "young and black".

Actually, I bet Spursman would have no problem rooting for Jason Williams or Brad Miller — white ballas.

travis, wouldn't a rascist hate all blacks, you stupid sunuvab1tch?
:Q






:cooldevil

[scott]

Count me in as another person sick of GW's racist routine.

You can defend him all you want, but when I suggested that we put Steve Kerr in at the end of games when we are up and about to be intentionally fouled, GW responds with "Have you ever met a black person before?" Or something similarly insulting. Ghost's passive agressive racism is nearing its end of the tolerance. Ghost, you are one of my favorite posters- but why not drop this bullshit. Being called a racist is extremely insulting, and I'm now realizing how I was in the wrong by doing the same to someone like T Park. If any of us here were really racists, we probably wouldn't be basketball fans, given that the majority of the league is made up of African Americans.

[scott]

Sequ is right. I meant "ballas" by "young and black".

Actually, I bet Spursman would have no problem rooting for Jason Williams or Brad Miller — white ballas.


There you go again. You defend your earlier racist accusations by saying that you just meant "balla" in place of "young and black." Then you call Spursman a flat out racist by insinuating that he wouldn't have a problem with Jackson if he weren't black.

Its funny how this forum is fully of racists, according to you, yet you are the only one who ever brings up race.

[Ghost Writer]

scott, I find it funny that whenever the Ballas Bias is being discussed, you're never far behind.

:cooldevil

[scott]

Way to deflect the criticism off of your baseless accusations.

[Ghost Writer]

You throw around the term "rascist" while I make observations about who certain fans root for.

Don't feel bad, scott. I'm sure you liked David Robinson!

:cooldevil

[scott]

Good job Ghost, keep proving the point Travis and I are trying to make.

[T Park Num 9]

Ghengis is is th exact thing I was thinking Spurster ment.

Im a huge jack fan, but his getting pulled after playing bad in a game and moping and acting stupid were annoying.



Oh well, he chose to be stupid and not come back. His loss.

Jackson will be back out of the league in 2 years.

[Ghost Writer]

The point I am trying to make is simple, scott, and was made about half a dozen posts ago:

Some Spurs fans have a Balla Bias.

I think you qualify.



"Jackson will be back out of the league in 2 years." — T Park Num 9
This homer owns a custom-made Stephen Jackson jersey and claimed that #3 was his favorite Spurs player.

I wish we could trade your fickle @ss, T Ard Num Nutz.


:cooldevil

[KoriEllis]

Tony Parker moped on the bench too when pulled for Speedy, but I guess since he's not on his way out the door, we don't bring it up or criticize it. :rolleyes .

If Jack does leave, I certainly hope he keeps his head straight and flourishes. Those who want to see him out of the league in 2 years are ridiculous -- he's a good guy.




On the racism subject, please end it. This is my second request. The third one will not be as cordial. Thank you.

[Marcus Bryant]

Jack is interesting because his game isn't polished (by conventional or 'balla' standards). His handles are unnerving. He still would occassionally drive and get caught with nowhere to go. Some of this came with him being young and have never really played in a situation in which he could work on the basics. Most young 'ballas' (note to board: I prefer the boring term "players") or whatever can't shoot, but they have great handles. Jack is the opposite.

As for his attitude, most things that I've heard about him have been positive. Last summer he worked on his game and played in the summerleagues again. He worked hard and the Spurs like that a lot. Eventually he was rewarded with a starting spot last season. There was a mention once about him getting pissed in a game or something in his first year with the Spurs. That might be what has been referred to in this thread. I forget the whole story, but Jack's attitude since then was great. Let's not forget that Jack was treated like crap by the great coach Byron Scott. Scott thought that Jack couldn't play D. Now flash forward to the Spurs and we see a 6'8" athletic swingman who fit right in the Spurs' defensive system. You know Pop won't accept players who won't play D. Jack worked on that too.

The thing that was most amazing about him is that with a game on the line, he would come through. He did that versus the Suns in game 6 to close them out, Dallas in game 6 to close them out, and in the Finals in the 4th quarter. It's like whenever there was a moment to hit some big shots he was there. Now Kerr got more publicity for his game 6 performance @ Dallas, but Jack was key in the Spurs' rally in that game and he had a great game overall (something like 24 points, good shooting %, etc...)

This quality is an asset. That's why primarily I am still hopeful that he can make his way back.

[scott]

I obviously qualify, since I think Manu is better than Jackson (which the Spurs front office obviously agrees with, as does the rest of the league as they are obtaining to aquire Manu via a trade but aren't willing to offer the FA Jackson a contract). Coupled with the fact that I want our best FT shooter, who happens to be white, on the floor to shoot intentional FTs at the end of a game- it is certainly clear that I am have the Balla Bias- which to you is just another euphamism for Racist.

Way to piece that case together, Inspector Clueso.

[scott]

Apologies for the topic, Kori. But when being baselessly called a racist on numerous occassions, and then seeing others getting the same treatment, I'm going to speak up. But per your request, I'll cease.

[Ghost Writer]

Kori, scott is not listening to you and his stupidity is making me want to continue the discussion about the Balla Bias.

MB, I would want Jackson back, but the perimeter is way too crowded now. I wish Bowen was leaving and Jackson was staying.

We need Jack's fearlessness and clutch shooting ability. Kid had heart.

:cooldevil

[T Park Num 9]

Alright bozos I never said I WANTED him out of the league.

WIthout pop coaching him and controlling him, hes gonna go back to his old ways of being out of controll, not playing hard ass D. Im afriad hes gonna revert to what he was in New Jersey and thats a player thats gonna be cut.


I love jack, I think he was an awesome play, I loved his care free attitude, I loved his energy during warm ups.


I didnt like how he would ignore coach brown or shove other players away when he got benched for playing bad.



Ill be one of the FIRST people to shed a tear when he leaves.



But hearing the things going on with his agent?

Im afraid I cant feel totally bad. Hes let his agent run him out of town, and Im suprised Jack, who supposedly wanted to stay, let his agent do everything to the point of him KNOWING that what his agent was doing was running him out of town.




Dont paint me as a jack hater.

[Ghost Writer]

Okay. So Jack's intensity is alright when he's chest-bumping or pumping his fist after a big shot, but if he reacts negatively to a bad call or acts upset for being taken out, that is bad.

Incredible.

:cooldevil

[Marcus Bryant]

I'd take Jack back if he and the Spurs can come to terms. Mercer could be kicked to IR in that situation for all I care. He's not here primarily for his game.

[scott]

IMO, Spurs would be best off just releasing Mercer outright in that case. Mercer does have a reported history of being a locker room cancer, and his recent happy-go-lucky tune could change when he realizes he's here to be the 12th man/token IR guy. A negative attitude on the end of the bench could have a detrimental effect on our ability to repeat. If Manu was our primary PG backup, and Hedo saw some time at the 4, I think Jackson could be back without a significant reduction in minutes, although his crunch time minutes would probably be reduced.

1: Parker 35, Manu 13
2: Manu 22, Jackson 26
3: Bowen: 22, Hedo 26
4: Duncan 30, Rose 12, Hedo 6
5: Rasho 30, Duncan 6, Rose 12

Crunch Time Lineup:

1. Parker
2. Manu
3. Hedo/Jackson (?) - I'd imagine Hedo would become an important part of our offense, even if not starting. For that reason I'd think he'd get the crunch minutes.
4. Duncan
5. Rasho

[picnroll]

When Jack came to the bench pissed I didn't take it that he was pissed because he was taken out but that he was playing bad or thought the refs were screwing him. He'd go sit by himself on the baseline and somebody would get him and bring him to the bench. The way I see it they knew if he sat there he'd focus on the negative, get more frustrated and they wanted him on the bench to clear his head and have a positive attitude when he got back in the game. Kerr or Ferry or coach Brown use to talk to him then.

I'm still hoping Jack is back. I hope that the Spurs just did what they had to do to not let Fegan bascially hold them when for ransom with Jack when it was too late to make other moves to bring in a decent swingman. I'm hoping that when push comes to shove Jack will say this is the place and situtation for me and in the long run will be the most profitbale because this is where my game will develop best. Until he signs somewhere else ai'll keep hoping. If not I'll root for him wherever he is.

[Ghost Writer]

The whole point of us wanting to keep Jackson is for those crunch time minutes, scott a.k.a. "No One Called Me a Rascist".




:cooldevil

[scott]

That is for you to discuss with Greggy Pop, not me.

[Ghost Writer]

In your projections, you were confused over Jackson or Hedo getting the crunch time minutes, scott.

Jackson would.

But Jackson is gone, so Hedo will.

:cooldevil

[scott]

You say Jackson would as if it is some certainty. I disagree. I think, in all likelyhood, Hedo would get the minutes Jack normally got in the crunch.

Not because Hedo is necessarily better or because that is what I want- but because I think that's what Pop would do.

[Spursman]

When did Jack have a bad attitude?
When he didn't get what he wanted. Just as a fer instance, the playoffs, when he thought he should be on the floor he was mad because he wasn't. The Spurs were struggling and instead of jumping up and supporting them he moved away from the bench, practically under the basket, and was sulking. Maybe bad attitude is not exactly the correct terminology, but that's what I chose.


I think Spursman equates "bad attitude" with being young and black.:lol

Thanks for the laugh GW.

[Ghost Writer]

Jackson has proven himself to come through in the clutch, while Hedo has never even gotten off the bench in the clutch.

:cooldevil

[scott]

And Jackson, Manu, and Parker had never played any crunch time minutes until Greg Popovich gave them the opportunity to.

My entire contention is that Pop plays his "key guys" in the clutch, and in the Spurs system, Hedo would be more of a key guy than Jack would be- under Pop.

You should know better than anyone that Pop doesn't always put The Magic Lineup in at the end of games.

Assume Jack was back, I'd put the 2003-2004 Magic Lineup as follows, under the assumption that Hedo can handle playing the 4.

Parker-Manu-Jackson-Hedo-Duncan.

However, you and I don't coach the San Antonio Spurs. The incomprehensible Greg Popovich does. The most likely linup, IMO, would be:

Parker-Manu-Hedo-Duncan-Rasho.

[Spursman]

As far as I know (and what really do I know) is that the only way to get Jack back is to over pay him. Pop said last night that Jack will not be back and that they will not over pay him.

[Ghost Writer]

I know, scott, but Pop must've noticed all the games we won with The Magic Lienup and he can be fiercely loyal to his proven players.


:cooldevil

[genghisrex]

Tony Parker moped on the bench too when pulled for Speedy, but I guess since he's not on his way out the door, we don't bring it up or criticize it.Kori, to be fair, when Tony did the same thing it also rubbed me the wrong way. When Speedy was hitting jumpers during Game 6 of the Finals, the whole bench was jumping up and down except for Parker who was clapping, but altogether looking somewhat less than thrilled. That pissed me off! Moping after being benched is not a great attitude, but I also recognize that both TP and SJax are young players and still have some growing up to do.

[KoriEllis]

Jack always did a great job pumping up the team.

Who do you think will fill the role of the Spurs "Rah-Rah" guy?
There aren't many of those types on this Spurs' squad.

[travis2]

Malik will be the new cheerleader. And Tim will grab a few more heads.

:lol

[Ghost Writer]

You people laugh, but I quiver to think who is going to demand to take the shots that matter next year.


Stephen begged for the ball in critical moments and made his share of clutch shots.

Who's going to fill that void?


Question.

:cooldevil

[CosmicCowboyXXX]

You people laugh, but I quiver to think who is going to demand to take the shots that matter next year.


Stephen begged for the ball in critical moments and made his share of clutch shots.

Who's going to fill that void?

hmmm...

4 down DOES come to mind....:vomit

[taruky]

Hi folks, I'm new here. I've been following the Kings for the past 3 years. I thought I could lend some insight on Hedo here.

Ghost writer, with all due respect, you seem to know little about Hedo. Last season was a miserable season for him due to various reasons, many resting solely on his shoulders. However, the 2 prior seasons he has been clutch off the bench on MANY occassions, including the 2001 and 2002 playoffs. He has torched the Lakers and Mavs in several playoff games.

Make no mistake about it, this kid has tremendous upside and has already shown it. If he gains some maturity and dedicates himself to the game, Spurs fans are going to be very happy.

[Solid D]

Welcome to the Forum Taruky! There are some pretty knowledgeable basketball fans in here. I'm sure you will be a positive addition to the group (I saw a couple of your posts in another forum).

Feel free to provide more insight on Hedo, particularly his ball-handling ability and how effective he might be in breaking a press. Did the Kings ever use him for spot duty in that way, or was he mostly used at the wing? RC Buford spoke of Hedo's ability to initiate the offense, if called upon.

[timvp]

Welcome, Taruky. Any Hedo insight is more than welcome.

I know that in the 2002 playoffs, Hedo had a bad game one but bounced back with big games. Hopefully he can fill the void left by Jackson.

[MI21]

I don't like how people talk about Clutch Shooting being Jack's only positive.

Let's not forget he would actually score during the game, and when he was just concerned with finishing, rather than creating he was deadly. The occasional drive instead of constant creating, was usually successful and he was very good at feeding Duncan after driving, and Ran the PnR well with Duncan, splitting the defenders etc.

He is going to be severly missed IMO and the Spurs are going to be less confident, exciting and will have less of that element of surprise Jackson bought them.

[gospurs21]

Let's not forget the experience Jax has with our system. This work will have to be re-learned by Hedo and Ron (if he gets the chance to play). This will cost us some games.

I agree we will miss Jax clutch shooting. But we won't miss the ball handling skills. Let's just hope it works out for the best for everyone involved. Some times the best moves are the ones you DON'T make, Jax are you listening?

Someone needs to beat Jax agent with a stick.

Go Spurs...

[MannyIsGod]

I just hope the rest of the leauge has forgotten who holds the biggest nutsack this side of the mississippi based off one bad playoffs.

ROBERT FRICKING HORRY.

Are you telling me none of you would cringe if he took a last second 3 for another team against the Spurs now? I know I would.

[Ghost Writer]

taruky, with all due respect, you didn't tell me anything I didn't already know about Hedo.

It's about time he turned his career around and started realizing that potential.

Has Turkoglu ever made a big shot in his career?

:Q


I wish Jack was back.

:cooldevil

[scott]

Another thing I will miss about Jack is his ability to move without the ball. I think he may have been the best on our team at moving without the ball and getting free for a feed from Duncan or Manu for a layup. Thats exactly the type of thing our team has had a tendency to stop doing during the 4th Q of games.

[taruky]

Ghostwriter, with even more due respect :wink , yes he has made big shots. I guess I'm not understanding what you mean by big shot. A 3-pointer in game 7 of the NBA finals? Well no.

I'm not denying that Hedo had a bad year and needs to take some responsibility. But you said he's never been clutch, and that is wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

I'll miss Jack's clutch shootung.

I won't miss the turnovers.

One would have to wonder if the Spurs will simply be in as many clutch situations with three or so fewer turnovers per game.

I've enjoyed Jack, but he's being an idiot about his contract. I hope he ends up in a situation where he can reach his potential as a player, be that here or elsewhere.

[timvp]

No matter how much talent you have or how well your team plays, playoff games will always be close. That is the rule of the sport. Defenses clamp down and players elevate their game to the point where winning and losing is decided on a very thin line.

That thin line is where the Spurs will miss Jackson. He wasn't afraid to put his neck on the chopping block during the late parts of games. If he misses those threes in Game 6 of the Finals, Spurs fans would still be pissed at him. But he didn't care and helped bring home the W and the rings.

He'll be missed.

R.I.U., Jackson






(Rest In Utah)

[Milton]

I'm still holding my silver and black rosary in hopes of Jackson's return to San Antonio. Maybe once he finds out that no one will give him what he wants then he and the Spurs can make up and move on...together.