Championship should come with an asterisk

[phxspurfan]

Might as well have played against Steph Curry’s Davidson team, with all these injuries

:smokin:

[RD2191]

Nobody cares tbh

[DeadlyDynasty]

Kawhi really wounded you, huh OP?

[Othyus Lalanne]

Might as well have played against Steph Curry’s Davidson team, with all these injuries

:smokin:

The asterisk goes to the KD era Warriors every other year.

[UZER]

People giving away asterisks like Oprah around here.

[benefactor]

If they win the last game they play, it doesn't matter. History only remembers the ring.

[Othyus Lalanne]

People giving away asterisks like Oprah around here.

No, i just gave away a couple, not 20.

[gambit1990]

fuck that shit.

GSW beat spurs when kawhi went down, beat houston when cp3 went down.

[apalisoc_9]

The warriors have three players who won All-NBA honours and a FMVP.

[timtonymanu]

Warriors were literally the biggest offenders of this the past few years. How many injured teams did they conveniently face in every one of their runs?

But Kawhi haters only wanna focus on this series.

[daslicer]

They remind me of the '06 Heat or the '11 Mavs. Basically a team lead by 1 superstar playing on god mode while the role players played out of their asses.

[Laker_1995]

They remind me of the '06 Heat or the '11 Mavs. Basically a team lead by 1 superstar playing on god mode while the role players played out of their asses.


06 heat had the refs.

[i'm_still_beta]

Finals is not over yet, Raptors should close the deal first. But Warriors intentionally injured Kawhi two years ago. Karma is bitch.

[dbreiden83080]

Serves the Warriors right. KD joining them was the Bitch Move of the decade in the NBA..

[Othyus Lalanne]

Serves the Warriors right. KD joining them was the Bitch Move of the decade in the NBA..

Seeing them coming out and geting torched by J Simmons in game 1 of their first KD season was as fun as watching a good finals game.

[Kurgan]

fuck that shit.

GSW beat spurs when kawhi went down, beat houston when cp3 went down.

Definitely. This thread just reeks of bitterness. Warriors built their semi-dynasty on injured teams while having a remarkable run of health in the playoffs. This is just them getting their comeuppance

[BlackAndWhite]

The warriors has gotten lucky every year so there's plenty of asterisks. In 2015, they played a injured grizzlies and cavs team. Not to mention playing the rockets after the clippers disintegrated in the semifinals. In 2017, they got lucky with the Parker, David lee and Kawhi injury when playing the spurs. In 2018 they got lucky due to load management sitting out when he could have played as well, Boogie tearing his achilles and Chris Paul having his quad ruptured. Things could have gone a lot different if their opponents were healthy.

[ulosturedge]

Yeah i'm glad Karma actually caught up with the Warriors. They owed one for the Zaza bullshit. It's just the Cosmos bringing things back into balance.

[Chris Fall]

Yeah that karma is a sonofabitch, isn’t it?

Two championships and three consecutive Finals appearances... go get ‘em, karma! That’ll show ‘em.

[slick'81]

Much more relevent title then '99 tbh

[daslicer]

06 heat had the refs.

Heat beat the Pistons,Bulls,Nets fairly during that run. All 3 of those teams had their chances to take them out but couldn't put them out. You can argue the phantom foul Wade got at the end of game 5 was undeserving but outside of game 5 the Mavs had their chances to beat them. They were up I think 14 points in the 4th with 4 minutes left in game 3 but they choked that lead and the Heat ended up winning that game. Had the Mavs won that game they go up 3-0. The mavs in game 4 just flat out got out played and was curb stomped by the Heat.

[ulosturedge]

Yeah that karma is a sonofabitch, isn’t it?

Two championships and three consecutive Finals appearances... go get ‘em, karma! That’ll show ‘em.

With their Super Stacked team they should have had 4 Championships. So if they end up 2 for 4 i'd say that's Karma. Calm down. What are you a Warrior Superfan or something? lol

[Chris Fall]

Lol nope. I’m rather enjoying watching the Raptors being on the verge of winning, partly to see a new champ, partly because Draymond has been so smug. But karma to me would have been one of their stars getting injured in the same playoffs Kawhi got injured ruining their title hopes that year, not two titles and three Finals later lol.

Lol karma...

[KimmyGib]

Do any of Golden State's last 3 championships not have an asterisk, tbh? One thing's for sure, they are amazingly clutch when it comes to their toughest opponent's key player getting injured just when they need it most.

2015 Finals: Kyrie with season ending injury near the end of game 1 after torching GS. Cavs on track to win in ot if not for the injury. May have won series.
2017 WCF: Kawhi with season ending injury in game 1 after torching GS. Spurs on track to win g1 if not for injury. May have won series.
2018 WCF: CP3 with season ending injury after leading his team up 3-2. Rockets on track to win series if not for the injury.
2019 Finals: Raptors on track to win series. Injury TBD.

[BlackAndWhite]

People frequently forget that the grizzlies were leading 2-1 before Tony Allen and Mike Conley were injured. They could have been knocked out in that series before playing the depleted cavs who was without Kevin Love and Kyrie.

[daslicer]

Lol nope. I’m rather enjoying watching the Raptors being on the verge of winning, partly to see a new champ, partly because Draymond has been so smug. But karma to me would have been one of their stars getting injured in the same playoffs Kawhi got injured ruining their title hopes that year, not two titles and three Finals later lol.

Lol karma...

Agreed. Taking out #2 still benefited the Warriors. They got 2 titles out of it. Even if they lose this series I'm sure they still have no regrets about what they did to #2 in 2017 considering they are probably 2 rings short if the Zaza incident doesn't happen. Karma would have been them losing immediately in the finals in '17 after taking out #2.

[TD 21]

Definitely. Still beats the '15 Warriors though, because at least they had to go through an elite team (Bucks) and second tier one (76ers). Considering the state of the Cavaliers at the time, the Warriors didn't even face the latter.

Also beats the '17 and '18 Warriors, for obvious reasons.

[apalisoc_9]

The warriors team the raptors are beating without Durant is one of the top 6 best finalist team in the last 15 years.

Retarded to consider it an asterisk.

[baseline bum]

Bullshit. Probably at least 70% of NBA Champions were the beneficiaries of major injuries to their competition.

[TD 21]

Not this big of an advantage. The best player on the best team is an extreme one (not to mention, Thompson, Iguodala and Looney all being banged up).

This version of the Warriors were ripe for this all season (they're in '03 Lakers, '08 Spurs, '11 Lakers, '14 Heat, '15 Spurs territory). Only their high end talent advantage and said talent being even greater than the sum of their parts because of their fit and IQ, could save them. Without that, this team is nothing special.

Meanwhile, Scumbag was gifted the most complete team in the league. No rotational liabilities on either side of the ball.

[DMC]

Might as well have played against Steph Curry’s Davidson team, with all these injuries

:smokin:

GS didn't seem to mind when KL went down. No one gives a fuck. You play 5 guys, you win or lose. They are all on the team.

[LkrFan]

Might as well have played against Steph Curry’s Davidson team, with all these injuries

:smokin:

Nope. Legit title.

1999 title, on the other hand? * to be bluntly honest.

[LkrFan]

Bullshit. Probably at least 70% of NBA Champions were the beneficiaries of major injuries to their competition.

Agreed. That 1999 title was bullshit. :tu

[K...]

Injuries are part of the game, there are no asterisks.....but the quality of the championship is obvious debatable. Not all teams are shaq kobe. Some are just luck.

[midnightpulp]

Agreed. That 1999 title was bullshit. :tu

Every Spurs opponent was healthy. Your Lakers were supposed to win that series per the "analysts." Got swept.

[TXstbobcat]

Every Spurs opponent was healthy. Your Lakers were supposed to win that series per the "analysts." Got swept.

in 1999 Ewing was out injured. Even if Ewing had played, I think the spurs would still have won that series.

[LeGiannis]

This finals will be a moral victory for the warriors. They fought hard despite the injuries. Curry came up big when his team really needed it, thus shaking off some (but not all) of his choker reputation.

[phxspurfan]

in 1999 Ewing was out injured. Even if Ewing had played, I think the spurs would still have won that series.

I was a huge Knicks fan in the 90s, then Heat fan when Riley went south. Ewing was done by 98. Starks done by 97

Btw not sure if the Knicks beat the Heat in 99 but if the Heat made it to the finals they ring easily over the 99 Spurs.

[davethedope]

Agreed. That 1999 title was bullshit. :tu

I can consign that cuz as much as the Knicks need one I didn't want it that way

[LkrFan]

Every Spurs opponent was healthy. Your Lakers were supposed to win that series per the "analysts." Got swept.

Did Ewing play at 100%?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Only pussies & assholes lodge the asterisk.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I was a huge Knicks fan in the 90s, then Heat fan when Riley went south. Ewing was done by 98. Starks done by 97

Btw not sure if the Knicks beat the Heat in 99 but if the Heat made it to the finals they ring easily over the 99 Spurs.

That Heat team had arguably the best defensive analytics in NBA history. Offense was crappy, though. And the Spurs would have had HCA. Allan Houston hit a lucky shot and the Heat had a tough time scoring. I don't remember much else because I was really young back then.

[midnightpulp]

Did Ewing play at 100%?

:lol 1999 Patrick Ewing. No chance against that Duncan and Robinson frontline.

[LkrFan]

:lol 1999 Patrick Ewing. No chance against that Duncan and Robinson frontline.

:lol

[Will Hunting]

That Heat team had arguably the best defensive analytics in NBA history. Offense was crappy, though. And the Spurs would have had HCA. Allan Houston hit a lucky shot and the Heat had a tough time scoring. I don't remember much else because I was really young back then.
Huh? The 1999 Heat were 8th in the league in defensive rating that year. What defensive analytics are you referring to?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Huh? The 1999 Heat were 8th in the league in defensive rating that year. What defensive analytics are you referring to?

Whoops... wrong year. Checking back on the roster they didn't even have Bruce Bowen yet. And their offense was always meh.

[namlook]

No asterisk but healthy Warriors would threepeat.

[Othyus Lalanne]

This finals will be a moral victory for the warriors. They fought hard despite the injuries. Curry came up big when his team really needed it, thus shaking off some (but not all) of his choker reputation.
I don't care, i just don't want long dynasties.

[phxspurfan]

The warriors team the raptors are beating without Durant is one of the top 6 best finalist team in the last 15 years.

Retarded to consider it an asterisk.

Spurs
Lakers
Heat
Celtics
Cavs


those are the teams that have won the last 15 years of championships. This injured af Dubs squad would be the worst out of all of them, easily. They have 1 healthy star player (Curry), 1 head case who is 1 tech away from officially ruining it for them again (Draymond), 1 injured all star (Klay), a guy coming off an achilles and quad tear who is just trying to get his wind back (Cousins), a good sixth man/defensive stopper who is unfortunately also injured (Iggy) and a bunch of absolute scrubs that wouldn't win a G league championship.


Pretty sure the Spurs, Nuggz, Blazers, Rockets, Thunder and maybe even Jazz would beat today's Dubs team in a best of 7, if it started tomorrow.

[Arcadian]

Btw not sure if the Knicks beat the Heat in 99 but if the Heat made it to the finals they ring easily over the 99 Spurs.
They lost to the Knicks in round 1.

And no they wouldn't, that's preposterous.

[phxspurfan]

They lost to the Knicks in round 1.

And no they wouldn't, that's preposterous.

Easily. 4-0.

[phxspurfan]

https://media.giphy.com/media/2im82nE34PQ1lhAtun/giphy.gif

[Bynumite]

Weakest championship squad since the 95 Rockets imho.

[Dirks_Finale]

Will be remembered as most insignificant title in modern day era. Right next to Spurs over hobled Knicks in 99

[phxspurfan]

Will be remembered as most insignificant title in modern day era. Right next to Spurs over hobled Knicks in 99

I'd say the random Pistons one in 04 was pretty random. Many teams were better including the team they beat. Replay any of those series and they all come out different. 04 Spurs, Lakers, Kangs, TPups all could have won it easily that year

[daslicer]

Weakest championship squad since the 95 Rockets imho.

I would say '06 Heat.

[Kawhitstorm]

One asterisk ('15) deserves another.