Let's see how the media treat their darling organization for destroying the rest of Durant's career..

[spursistan]

An unforgivably selfish decision by those pricks in the Bay. 'Light years ahead' my ass..

This arrogant franchise my have just prematurely ended the career of an All time great by shamelessly valuing their (hollow) rings over the health of a transcendent talent..

Spurs org was slandered non-stop despite letting a star player sit out a year because he was sore. Let's see if the Warriors get similar treatment. :lol

[Legacy]

All that for one damn game. Shit's one hot mess, tbh.

[TimDunkem]

The Kawhi drama started because the Spurs were trying to RUSH Leonard back and questioned his injury. This is exactly why he left. Tf are you talking about? This vindicates Leonard.

[spursistan]

All that for one damn game. Shit's one hot mess, tbh.
Not ruling him out weeks ago was absolute madness..They waited until they go down in a series and then proceeded to put subtle pressure on him to comeback and save the day (and his legacy)..

[baseline bum]

The Kawhi drama started because the Spurs were trying to RUSH Leonard back and questioned his injury. This is exactly why he left. Tf are you talking about? This vindicates Leonard.

Pop was trying to shut him down for the season and then I remember Leonard's people going to ESPN and saying he'd be back in a couple of weeks. It was right before a nationally televised game against Golden State.

[BackHome]

Yeah when he came back so soon from injury I was like no way Pop does this and my thoughts went he is going to tear something. Hate any player getting that kind of injury I wonder if this is going to impact what teams he goes to?

[Collins21]

The Kawhi drama started because the Spurs were trying to RUSH Leonard back and questioned his injury. This is exactly why he left. Tf are you talking about? This vindicates Leonard.

STFu they did no try to rush him back. What if he would just have let them declare him out for the season like they wanted? I get hating the foot office and the moves they make but blatantly lying and twisted things is different.

[Blackhaus]

We’ll never really know the whole story. One side keeps all their dirty laundry to themself and the other side is a social hermit. We’ll never hear the actual truth about the Kwitter situation. I know the Spurs wouldn’t have sent him out if there wasn’t a 100% certainty that he was healthy, but ultimately it’s the players body and he did what was best for him. As for GS, someone fucked up. Wether it was beta not being 100% truthful about his health or GS rolling the dice cause they we’re chip happy.

[Keepin' it real]

What a bunch of weak, spineless souls around here. That's how you are supposed to go down. Fighting ... not load managing.

[cjw]

What a bunch of weak, spineless souls around here. That's how you are supposed to go down. Fighting ... not load managing.

Wentz staying on the field to clinch a TD drive in a key December game against the Rams (effectively to keep bye/home field) after tearing his ACL. The rest is history with Foles. Though an ACL is NOT an Achilles.

[monty4329]

Might be just bad luck. The no-restriction on KD minutes was surprising, either he was 100% OK or the docs made a mistake (kind of SA with Kawhi, Danny and Pau).

Regardless, this maybe is costing the guy a lot of money. GS will still offer him the max, I guess, but others might look at history and realize that he will never be the same player.

[Blackhaus]

I’ve never seen anyone return to Normal form or better following a torn Achilles, esp being 30 or older. This is just a bad situation for KD, GS and it has multiple ripple effects for free agency this year. If I’m a fan of these bottom teams with lots of money this summer, I’m cringing at the thought of maxing him out. I see him prob picking up his 30mil option with GS unless some moron comes and offers him the max. If they do bring a max offer, he should take it.

[tbdog]

I would like to know what this means for Durant's free agency. Does he just opt in and rehab for the year. If not, who will offer him big money to rehab? Surely Lakers/Lebron says no to that. All these teams that went out of their way to make 1 or 2 max slots to offer Durant, do you think they'll tell their fans to wait another year until Durant is back?

[SpursDynasty85]

The Kawhi drama started because the Spurs were trying to RUSH Leonard back and questioned his injury. This is exactly why he left. Tf are you talking about? This vindicates Leonard.

Lol. Two Completely different situations. Makes a good storyline and makes others feel vindicated but to relate these two timetables and injuries is retarded. Second Kawhi announced he was 100% healthy right after playoffs. More than likely Spurs were right about Leonard's injury and it will need to be maintained for the rest of his career but if your getting paid to play then sit and blackball the organization on Manus last season and in real fears of missing the playoffs whatever the Spurs did Leonard sure as hell got his vengeance 2 fold.

[superbigtime]

I'm no Durant fan but damn.

[pad300]

I’ve never seen anyone return to Normal form or better following a torn Achilles, esp being 30 or older. This is just a bad situation for KD, GS and it has multiple ripple effects for free agency this year. If I’m a fan of these bottom teams with lots of money this summer, I’m cringing at the thought of maxing him out. I see him prob picking up his 30mil option with GS unless some moron comes and offers him the max. If they do bring a max offer, he should take it.

Aren't you a spurs fan? Rudy Gay just had the 2 best seasons of his career (by WP48), https://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players/150-rudy-gay , coming to SAS after tearing his achilles....

[jjktkk]

The Kawhi drama started because the Spurs were trying to RUSH Leonard back and questioned his injury. This is exactly why he left. Tf are you talking about? This vindicates Leonard.

LOL, you can't be this stupid can you? The Spurs didn't try to rush Leonard back. It was the complete opposite dumbass. :lol

[Saitam]

An unforgivably selfish decision by those pricks in the Bay. 'Light years ahead' my ass..

This arrogant franchise my have just prematurely ended the career of an All time great by shamelessly valuing their (hollow) rings over the health of a transcendent talent..

Spurs org was slandered non-stop despite letting a star player sit out a year because he was sore. Let's see if the Warriors get similar treatment. :lol

2000 game 78, TD (All Star MVP year) teared meniscus. Pop shut him down and lost in first round.
2017 WCF, Pop didn´t play #2 knowing we would be completely destroyed.
100% PATFO culture. Never risk players or reagravate injuries.

[rjv]

The Kawhi drama started because the Spurs were trying to RUSH Leonard back and questioned his injury. This is exactly why he left. Tf are you talking about? This vindicates Leonard.

:rollin

[Russ]

I would like to know what this means for Durant's free agency. Does he just opt in and rehab for the year. If not, who will offer him big money to rehab? Surely Lakers/Lebron says no to that. All these teams that went out of their way to make 1 or 2 max slots to offer Durant, do you think they'll tell their fans to wait another year until Durant is back?

Nah, they'll be lining up to pay KD to sit out a year. You can just about book it.

[rjv]

LOL, you can't be this stupid can you? The Spurs didn't try to rush Leonard back. It was the complete opposite dumbass. :lol

exactly. in the end, the spurs FO never forced leonard to do anything and, because of that, leonard is playing this year. lol at blaming the organization that created load management (and was even fined and chastised for it by the previous dumb ass commissioner).

[south side spur]

LOL, you can't be this stupid can you? The Spurs didn't try to rush Leonard back. It was the complete opposite dumbass. :lol

Yes, the Kawhite knights ARE this stupid. They still believe their hero was injured. What a joke. They believe a degenerative condition is an injury. Idiots. They’re still holding on to the JFK magic bullet theory as justification for his check cashing. Repeated trauma to the quad? Who believes this horseshit?

[Twisted_Dawg]

Not ruling him out weeks ago was absolute madness..They waited until they go down in a series and then proceeded to put subtle pressure on him to comeback and save the day (and his legacy)..

How do you know GSW put pressure on Durant to play? Is proof of that documented in some link somewhere? Is it possible GSW didn't apply any pressure, and the decision to play was wholly KD's because he wanted to help his teammates?

[rjv]

Nah, they'll be lining up to pay KD to sit out a year. You can just about book it.

exactly. if anything, this actually gives leverage to those teams willing to offer the max despite his likely 'out for next year' status. i mean. the knicks have sucked for so long, what would one more year matter? and there may be other teams, like the lakers, with an aging lebron, who may just drop any dreams of durant and place all their chips on davis now. toronto, also benefits as they can argue to leonard that the east is their's for the taking next season and without durant playing for the warriors, another title run is a strong possibility.

[Keepin' it real]

How do you know GSW put pressure on Durant to play? Is proof of that documented in some link somewhere? Is it possible GSW didn't apply any pressure, and the decision to play was wholly KD's because he wanted to help his teammates?

I'm sorry, that's beyond millennials' comprehension.

[Dex]

That decision to let him play has the potential to alter the NBA landscape.

Durant will likely be out most, if not all, of next season. Even if he stays in GSW, they are obviously weaker without him, and they probably aren't getting another discount on Boogie next year either.

Teams have to be a little hesitant to throw max at a guy with a fresh torn Achilles. He's only 4 years younger than Kobe was when his happened, and he was never the same after that. Maybe he decides to take his player option and pushes the Durant sweepstakes until next summer.

Does that alter what the Lakers, Clippers, Nets, and Knicks try to do? Does Kyrie still leave Boston? Where does AD end up now?

So many things could change due to one little pop.

[BackHome]

Most players want to play even though they might cause more injury it’s the coach job to keep that from happening and I don’t think Kerr did that.

[RC_Drunkford]

well actually the media is using this to throw the Spurs further under the bus saying they wanted to force Kawhi to do the same and Kawhi was right for sitting out :lol

[Russ]

Can a medical expert answer this question?

If KD just rested, would the Achilles still rupture once he started playing again?

In other words, if an Achilles is that close to rupturing will rest restore it?

Or is it only a matter of time (no matter how much rest) until it completely ruptures and then must be surgically repaired?

[R. DeMurre]

How do you know GSW put pressure on Durant to play? Is proof of that documented in some link somewhere? Is it possible GSW didn't apply any pressure, and the decision to play was wholly KD's because he wanted to help his teammates?

Exactly. If Durant didn't play, the same people criticizing him now for playing would've been calling him a pussy for sitting out. It's so easy to be an armchair coach/GM after the fact.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Can a medical expert answer this question?

If KD just rested, would the Achilles still rupture once he started playing again?

In other words, if an Achilles is that close to rupturing will rest restore it?

Or is it only a matter of time (no matter how much rest) until it completely ruptures and then must be surgically repaired?

Also, did the rehab therapy on the right calf somehow make the achilles weaker which caused the tear?

[look_at_g_shred]

No official word yet?

[John B]

Nah, they'll be lining up to pay KD to sit out a year. You can just about book it.
I think they will offer multiple years would make sense, knowing he would be back. But that’s a lot of risk and a lot of money to just rehab a year. Would Dubs counter-offer if so? Sure. They’re the ones who fucked up. How about other FA? How do they feel signing up with KD for instance knowing the whole year is lost? Assuming he’s colluding with other players to form a superfriends at Knicks or Nets? I guess it’s off the table now. Bottomline it fucks up his options. I wander how Durant feels about the organization? Sure he was gonna go out with his brothers to war, right. But something could tell him, they prompted him to to save a 1-3 series. No restriction minutes? No decoy plays just as precaution. Worst, Looney was out there too grimacing in national television, which really looked bad if you ask me.

[lmbebo]

Can a medical expert answer this question?

If KD just rested, would the Achilles still rupture once he started playing again?

In other words, if an Achilles is that close to rupturing will rest restore it?

Or is it only a matter of time (no matter how much rest) until it completely ruptures and then must be surgically repaired?

Not sure. Ortho would know better. But sounds like he had higher risk in general, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3752187/

Plus, need to check that its not muscular tear (upgrading of his calf injury/muscle injury?). MRI will tell for sure.

[RD2191]

Most players want to play even though they might cause more injury it’s the coach job to keep that from happening and I don’t think Kerr did that.

Kerr is a little bitch. Fuck that clown.

[Blackhaus]

Aren't you a spurs fan? Rudy Gay just had the 2 best seasons of his career (by WP48), https://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players/150-rudy-gay , coming to SAS after tearing his achilles....

Really, dude isn’t nearly as explosive as he was pre injury and there’s games where he is so stiff and barely can move around. Yes his advanced stats are his best but there’s so much more to take into account. He’s always been a chucker on a bad team so of course is percentages are going to be shit. Plus playing in a actual offense, amplifies his strengths and puts him in the best position possible. Put him back on a shit team like the suns or something and watch those numbers plummet back down to his career norms. Wondering if you even watch basketball.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

That decision to let him play has the potential to alter the NBA landscape.

Durant will likely be out most, if not all, of next season. Even if he stays in GSW, they are obviously weaker without him, and they probably aren't getting another discount on Boogie next year either.

Teams have to be a little hesitant to throw max at a guy with a fresh torn Achilles. He's only 4 years younger than Kobe was when his happened, and he was never the same after that. Maybe he decides to take his player option and pushes the Durant sweepstakes until next summer.

Does that alter what the Lakers, Clippers, Nets, and Knicks try to do? Does Kyrie still leave Boston? Where does AD end up now?

So many things could change due to one little pop.


All true points.




Bob Myers was doing his best acting job in the post game. I've never seen someone cry so much yet never actually shed a tear. The sniffling was a nice touch though. :tu That media session was all damage control...ridiculous. He talked less about the injury and more about how the GS medical staff are "not bad people." Hilarious. Goodbye Golden State Warriors.

[Gibbz]

No one will be hesitant to pay KD as much as they possibly can. He can still go wherever he wants for however much money he wants.

[DJR210]

:lol acting like the Warriors put a gun to his head and forced him to go out there.. He obviously wanted to play too. Just bad luck here

[bklynspursfan]

The Kawhi drama started because the Spurs were trying to RUSH Leonard back and questioned his injury. This is exactly why he left. Tf are you talking about? This vindicates Leonard.

Per Mike C Wright:


Privately, officials within organization had hoped Leonard would let the Spurs declare him out for the season due to his injury, according to sources with knowledge of the situation. Believing he’d eventually return, Leonard declined each time

Sure sounds like they were rushing him :rolleyes

[Barfunk]

well actually the media is using this to throw the Spurs further under the bus saying they wanted to force Kawhi to do the same and Kawhi was right for sitting out :lol

Props for being perceptive and seeing things how they truly are. Some forget how much the Pop Spurs are hated by the media. Now they're trying to throw bad karma on the Warriors for the Durant injury, so they lose, and Kawhi comes out on top looking like the good guy, all while spiting Pop and the Spurs franchise. I'm not falling for that.

[rjv]

well actually the media is using this to throw the Spurs further under the bus saying they wanted to force Kawhi to do the same and Kawhi was right for sitting out :lol

not that it means anything as sports media has zero credibility today.

[sammy]

GSW are a disgrace rushing KD back with his calf injury and now he tore his achilles! WTH! They may have ruined his career all for a game! Morons!

As for the moron that is blaming and saying Spurs rushing Quitter to play, Go to hell you delusional idiotic moron! Spurs were letting Quitter rest, it was Quitter saying he was coming back to play in the playoffs! Spurs always put the health of their players above the team!

[Keepin' it real]

not that it means anything as sports media has zero credibility today.

Delete the word sports and your sentence is still true.

[cd021]

That decision to let him play has the potential to alter the NBA landscape.

Durant will likely be out most, if not all, of next season. Even if he stays in GSW, they are obviously weaker without him, and they probably aren't getting another discount on Boogie next year either.

Teams have to be a little hesitant to throw max at a guy with a fresh torn Achilles. He's only 4 years younger than Kobe was when his happened, and he was never the same after that. Maybe he decides to take his player option and pushes the Durant sweepstakes until next summer.

Does that alter what the Lakers, Clippers, Nets, and Knicks try to do? Does Kyrie still leave Boston? Where does AD end up now?

So many things could change due to one little pop.

-Think KD will pick up his player option next season and stay with GSW. If he did tear his Achilles then the average recovery time is at least 8 months so that would put him post All Star break.

-Golden State will be weaker next season, anyways. If KD opts in, Klay re-signs, and waive Livingston then that's $151 million to 11 players. Not including Cousins and Looney.

-Could see another team giving Cousins a big one year deal, in part to weaken the Warriors.

-Kyrie is almost certainly gone, still, likely to Brooklyn.

-Every team would still jump at the chance at signing KD, even if he would be out for most of the first year.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

The Kawhi drama started because the Spurs were trying to RUSH Leonard back and questioned his injury. This is exactly why he left. Tf are you talking about? This vindicates Leonard.

:lmao what the fuck ever. Kawhi faked his shit injury to try to force a trade to LA. Nowhere near similar

[Crazymaddopeyo]

:lol acting like the Warriors put a gun to his head and forced him to go out there.. He obviously wanted to play too. Just bad luck here

He shouldn't have had a choice. They should've made the decision for him not to play.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

well actually the media is using this to throw the Spurs further under the bus saying they wanted to force Kawhi to do the same and Kawhi was right for sitting out :lol

Reading and seeing that bullshit everywhere and it's fucking stupid. Motherfucker faked his injury. A bunch of morons out there and a dishonest media.

[FkLA]

well actually the media is using this to throw the Spurs further under the bus saying they wanted to force Kawhi to do the same and Kawhi was right for sitting out :lol

It's like Nephew sold his soul to the devil or something. Everything has aligned perfectly for him. The injuries haven't just paved the way for him for a ring/FMVP but now the narrative paints him as a victim in the SA situation too smh.

[John B]

No one will be hesitant to pay KD as much as they possibly can. He can still go wherever he wants for however much money he wants.
Possible if multiple years. But pay 30mil to sit down the 1st year without guarantee that he would be the same player at his age. He’s tall and could still shoot over people, but if he lose that explosiveness, easier to closeout with a big defender.

Best scenario is Dubs rectify with extending multiple years. Don’t think Boggie would be back discounted without guaranteed ring, and without KD, it just leveled down the competition. Plus teams have seen (albeit Spurs had the blue print but not the personnel) to closeout on Curry/Klay pnr. It’s been scouted more, and teams would be preparing this summer

[widowmaker]

The Kawhi drama started because the Spurs were trying to RUSH Leonard back and questioned his injury. This is exactly why he left. Tf are you talking about? This vindicates Leonard.

Kawhi Leonard reminds me of tommy gunn off of Rocky 5.

[TD 21]

We usually agree on things, but not on this one . . . at least yet. More needs to come out about this before jumping to conclusions, prematurely assigning blame and assassinating people's character.

But no matter what happened, rest assured that their playing the game within' the game will serve them well now. The media won't bite the hand that feeds it.

[tbdog]

No one will be hesitant to pay KD as much as they possibly can. He can still go wherever he wants for however much money he wants.

I don't think that will happen. 4 year max by anyone is a risk. If it's a rapture, he is out all year. And then it takes another year to get close to where you were. All those teams who had two maxes, won't convince the other it's a year wait until contention.

[Capt Bringdown]

Before he cowardly joined a 73-win team, I recall Durant as a scoring machine that couldn't break through to the next level.
Durant's not LBJ - he's not leading another team to a ring.

[Ron Swanson]

Kawhi Leonard reminds me of tommy gunn off of Rocky 5.

So Timmy is going to beat Kawhi’s ass in a street brawl, then lay out Uncle Dennis?

[SpurOutofTownFan]

An unforgivably selfish decision by those pricks in the Bay. 'Light years ahead' my ass..

This arrogant franchise my have just prematurely ended the career of an All time great by shamelessly valuing their (hollow) rings over the health of a transcendent talent..

Spurs org was slandered non-stop despite letting a star player sit out a year because he was sore. Let's see if the Warriors get similar treatment. :lol

He will be demanding a trade to a team in LA soon and won't play for the Dubs anymore

[widowmaker]

So Timmy is going to beat Kawhi’s ass in a street brawl, then lay out Uncle Dennis?

That would make my life.

[phxspurfan]

It probably is piling on but I definitely felt that wtf? feeling while listening to game 5 on XM radio in the car and hearing Durant was playing so many minutes early. I think they had him out there even at the beginning of the 2nd quarter when most healthy stars rest. I was like that’s too much PT for the guy. Wasn’t surprised at all (saddened of course) when they were like oh no, Durant is now limping. Just thought he reinjured the calf. Turns out it was basically instant karma for rushing him back and overplaying him.

[james evans]

This may be the reason why Durant went to GS. He already had a major foot injury before. Maybe he knows his body and what his limits were in carrying a team and wanted some quick rings..

[JuneJive]

Karma is a bitch.

You ruin the league, you get got.

[monty4329]

GS is, deservely so, in an impossible position: will definitely have to extend him to a max.
In the best case: one year out, one year erratic play, one year OK, two years a washed out 34-35 y.o at 40+ mil a year.
Worse case: one year out, one year erratic play, two years washed out 33-34 y.o., one year buy-out

And no insurance on the contract.

GS is cooked. Unless they have the Ainge balls and don't even try to resign him. Seems impossible, though.

[NickiRasgo]

This may be the reason why Durant went to GS. He already had a major foot injury before. Maybe he knows his body and what his limits were in carrying a team and wanted some quick rings..

But after he got a ring (twice) and a chance to sign for longer contract, he didn't. He should've known better.

[tbdog]

GS is, deservely so, in an impossible position: will definitely have to extend him to a max.
In the best case: one year out, one year erratic play, one year OK, two years a washed out 34-35 y.o at 40+ mil a year.
Worse case: one year out, one year erratic play, two years washed out 33-34 y.o., one year buy-out

And no insurance on the contract.

GS is cooked. Unless they have the Ainge balls and don't even try to resign him. Seems impossible, though.

They really can't afford to max him. They are so deep into the tax, their bill is just huge. To pay him that much for him not to play then for him to slowly get back into shape, they'll be locked into their roster. They'll have to use the small MLE on wings to replace him and Iggy. Then they'll probably try and undercut Green who will shout out that he is healthy and playing and he deserves the coin. The best thing for the Warriors is if Durant just opts in. They let Cousins go. Sign cheap centers and use the small MLE on a wing. Heck, they'll have to make a decision on Looney as well.

[hater]

Any other coach would have got crucified. Kerr is media's little bitch whoc always has the right talking points and vanilla takes that media loves so much.

Fuck golden showers and their shit stained team.

[John B]

GS is, deservely so, in an impossible position: will definitely have to extend him to a max.
In the best case: one year out, one year erratic play, one year OK, two years a washed out 34-35 y.o at 40+ mil a year.
Worse case: one year out, one year erratic play, two years washed out 33-34 y.o., one year buy-out

And no insurance on the contract.

GS is cooked. Unless they have the Ainge balls and don't even try to resign him. Seems impossible, though.
Karma is a bitch. While Durant’s injury is not something anybody wish for to anybody, it’s fitting it happened to a smug organization like Dubs. Way to level the playing field. Not to mentioned what has happened to Lakers. Everything backfiring.

[hater]

Everything backfiring? They still 2 wins away from a 3peat

[John B]

Does what happened to Durant change the style of basketball back to low 100’s? Or is it forever altered? I mean in the finals we see Dubs really having a harder time scoring. I get that it’s the Finals and playing more defense. But next year with Durant gone. Dubs most likely extend his max contract or be seen as total douchebags. Boogie is most likely gone. Iggy has been injured. Livingstone slowed down. No salary cap to sign anybody significant. I doubt they find discounted ringchasers without Durant playing. Scoring should go down. The league does not need to play catchup and less shooting 3’s, or would they? Would mid-range Demar/LA not as outdated then? Just throwing out there.

[8FOR!3]

Kawhi's injury is chronic, he'll never play a full NBA season schedule with the playoffs looming, but he can play with it. Seems like the Spurs pretty much knew this and encouraged him to play. But it's been twisted to make us look bad. Durant situation is not looking good.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Pop was trying to shut him down for the season and then I remember Leonard's people going to ESPN and saying he'd be back in a couple of weeks. It was right before a nationally televised game against Golden State.

You’re telling nothing but the truth but the media is trying to push it like the person you responded to. These media outlets and personalities can be so phony with their revisionist history.

[FireMicoHalili]

Weird things about the Bob Myers presser:

1. Just sniffling, no actual tears;
2. Reading from notes, which he kept glancing at for a good part of the presser;
3. Focus on the narrative on Durant's haters i.e. 'Durant never wanted to be back' instead of addressing the issue whether they rushed him to play;
4. Taking the blame for his injury = reverse psychology
5. Actually having a presser for it to muddle the issues. Effectively glosses over the fact he and his brass were liable AND the fact they just ruined his free agency.

We'll see if they really are grateful for Durant showing up in Game 5. They can carry dead money from his player option onto next season OR give him a long contract for a discount just to be stuck with a star who's going to be a shell of what he once was. Anything less than that means they clearly acted on self-interest. They can't have it both ways saying Durant is honorable for sacrificing his Achilles and his career but expect a discount after KD sacrificed his career.

Funny how they're seeing it as a 'classy move', Myers wasn't even crying and was reading notes off a piece of paper lol that is a man filled with guilt to the brim because of a poor decision and is probably ruing a team stuck with dead money next season

[Russ]

The lastest spin by Max Kellerman on "First Take" regarding the Kawhi and KD injuries seems to be this:

The Spurs are solely to blame regarding the Kawhi situation.

On the other hand, KD (vs. the Warriors) is solely to blame regarding his situation.

This, despite the fact that KD has a recognized, definable injury that will need surgery and Kawhi doesn't.

The reasoning is that Kawhi was his own man and did not succunmb to the irrational pressure placed upon him by the Spurs to play ("trotting out" TP to trash him, etc.)

KD, on the other hand, must be blamed because he was weak in the face of team pressure and decided to try to play.

In other words, KD had a real injury that his team pressured him to play with and he actually got injured, therefore, KD handled it badly (not the Warriors who pressured him to play) -- so it's his own fault.

Kawhi, on the other hand, had an injury that no MRI (or other imaging) could find, and he did not play (or become further injured), therefore (hang on now) the Spurs handled his "injury" situation badly and it's the Spurs' fault.

Go figure.

[hater]

Why would you even listen to a mediocre boxing announcers NBA opinions? :lmao

The guy always speaks like he has just watched his first NBA game a few minute before :lol

Screaming A faggot loves him because he's easy pickings to debate

[r0drig0lac]

The lastest spin by Max Kellerman on "First Take" regarding the Kawhi and KD injuries seems to be this:

The Spurs are solely to blame regarding the Kawhi situation.

On the other hand, KD (vs. the Warriors) is solely to blame regarding his situation.

This, despite the fact that KD has a recognized, definable injury that will need surgery and Kawhi doesn't.

The reasoning is that Kawhi was his own man and did not succunmb to the irrational pressure placed upon him by the Spurs to play ("trotting out" TP to trash him, etc.)

KD, on the other hand, must be blamed because he was weak in the face of team pressure and decided to try to play.

In other words, KD had a real injury that his team pressured him to play with and he actually got injured, therefore, KD handled it badly (not the Warriors who pressured him to play) -- so it's his own fault.

Kawhi, on the other hand, had an injury that no MRI (or other imaging) could find, and he did not play (or become further injured), therefore (hang on now) the Spurs handled his "injury" situation badly and it's the Spurs' fault.

Go figure.
agree

[RD2191]

Karma is a bitch.

You ruin the league, you get got.

Tbh

[rjv]

The lastest spin by Max Kellerman on "First Take" regarding the Kawhi and KD injuries seems to be this:

The Spurs are solely to blame regarding the Kawhi situation.

On the other hand, KD (vs. the Warriors) is solely to blame regarding his situation.

This, despite the fact that KD has a recognized, definable injury that will need surgery and Kawhi doesn't.

The reasoning is that Kawhi was his own man and did not succunmb to the irrational pressure placed upon him by the Spurs to play ("trotting out" TP to trash him, etc.)

KD, on the other hand, must be blamed because he was weak in the face of team pressure and decided to try to play.

In other words, KD had a real injury that his team pressured him to play with and he actually got injured, therefore, KD handled it badly (not the Warriors who pressured him to play) -- so it's his own fault.

Kawhi, on the other hand, had an injury that no MRI (or other imaging) could find, and he did not play (or become further injured), therefore (hang on now) the Spurs handled his "injury" situation badly and it's the Spurs' fault.

Go figure.

the only perception that matters is what the players around the league think of the spurs organization. hacks like kellerman are completely irrelevant.

[Slippy]

Also, did the rehab therapy on the right calf somehow make the achilles weaker which caused the tear?

The wouldnt really rehab from calf strain . You allow it to rest. His last workout suggested he wasnt ready. The calf is related to Achilles because it attached so for them to say he couldnt make it worse isnt true. Its a weakpoint. They probably meaning the calf part.

Ive fully ruptured my achilles playing competive ball. Got a nice new thick one now. Not a medical expert but an expert in this typy of injury. If its partially torn, it can repair itself but requires alot of time to heal as in out for the playoffs. You always go down that route because it can heal from partial tears and surgery is the last resort. They seemed to be concentraing on the calf part. Thats the grey area. No doubt, Durant took a massive risk to play on it.

[Uriel]

Look at the huge difference between Durant and Leonard:


Durant wanted to take the court even if he was still injured because he wanted to be out there for his teammates. What a warrior.


Leonard didn't want to take the court even though he had been cleared by doctors months in advance because he didn't want to risk losing the supermax. What a pussy.

[cutewizard]

Either way, end of the road for the current GS Warriors

[cutewizard]

Question is,

WHO SHALL EMERGE FROM THE APOCALYPSE??????????

[cutewizard]

I just have this sneaky feeling that.............


the Pop Man shall have the last laugh, hahahahahahahahah

POPOVICHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cutewizard]

CHANGE IS ENDEMIC IN THE COSMOS!

[look_at_g_shred]

CHANGE IS ENDEMIC IN THE COSMOS!
Who is the girl that used to be in your avatar?

[Beartrucci]

The Kawhi drama started because the Spurs were trying to RUSH Leonard back and questioned his injury. This is exactly why he left. Tf are you talking about? This vindicates Leonard.


:rollin

Funny and untrue as it may be, it's exactly what the media is selling and what people generally believe at the moment. KD's injury has reinforced that public perception tenfold.

[tbdog]

The Warriors are already in damage control mode. And Leonard's situation is very different. No comparison.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr28TfnOSPU

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVniOBXOQ-g

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi4lByDf1qo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVbJ_cHLa2c

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3esK_em420

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrLYpopNrTQ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XAveEGQNUw

[dbreiden83080]

Kevin is not a toddler. He makes up his own goddamn mind. If he was playing for the Knicks it would’ve been the same thing. He decides what he wants to do.

[dbreiden83080]

The Kawhi drama started because the Spurs were trying to RUSH Leonard back and questioned his injury. This is exactly why he left. Tf are you talking about? This vindicates Leonard.

Rush him back? He basically sat on his ass for seven months.

[John B]

Is there an NBA ruling when a player can sit out? Is it ultimately up to the player? In KD’s case, he opted to play with the team doctor’s consent, he ended up injuring his weakened achilles. His free agency is jeopardized, and maybe his career. AI played injured and Celtics didn’t extend contract and lost millions. Kawhi, team doctor okayed but seeked outside doctors, finally found a doctor to declare him still injured, asked to get traded on his last year, missed 22 games and 1 game away from another ring, on the verge of becoming number 1 player, supermax contract, basically has complete control of his career. I hate what he did, but man, he seemed to have done GREAT in retrospect. I mean if KD didn’t push it, maybe they don’t ring this year, but still has teams lining up this summer. Injured or not, was the right thing to do was not play to be on the safe side?

[BackHome]

can’t really compare KY to KD as Pop was telling KY to sit out year because of injury

[K...]

Leonard would have been ok if he didn't do the hide and distort thing. If the Spurs could have apologized then the situation would have been resolved but, Uncle did what Uncle does


The 2018 rush kathi back narrative is bunk, but the 2017 Houston/golden state series are similar. Kawhi cleared, gets zaza'd. Obv you can't prevent zaza injuries, but the timing looks like reinjury

[NameLess Scrub]

KD did the old school warrior thing, but shouldn't have. It is one thing to play through pain and joint wear, and the other to play with a injury that actually urges recovery.

This does not change Kawhi's case unless it was the same, a player who went through more than the recovery time, was cleared, but kept looking for more opinions and thought he shouldn't play.

[JeffDuncan]

Is there an NBA ruling when a player can sit out? Is it ultimately up to the player? ...

It's ultimately up to the head coach. He's the one who puts players on the injury list, and he decides who's active for the game. The head coach is also the one who decides about any minutes restriction during the game.

After the docs said ok, and KD claimed he felt good to go, it was then Kerr who made the fateful decision.

[GreekSpursfan]

Kawhi's case should never be mentioned in the same sentence as KD's case. KD's case was serious , lets not rehash old stuff about what a joke Kawhitters case was.

[NameLess Scrub]

On the topic, media will treat them well. Better than the Spurs even though it is easier to think KD should have stayed out

[duncan2k5]

2000 game 78, TD (All Star MVP year) teared meniscus. Pop shut him down and lost in first round.
2017 WCF, Pop didn´t play #2 knowing we would be completely destroyed.
100% PATFO culture. Never risk players or reagravate injuries.

Unless two legends you are super loyal to are retiring and u want to make them go out strong... Pop doesn't have the same loyalty to Kawhi that he has for the big 3...that was very obvious with his behavior... And he clearly regretted it after it went to hell

[duncan2k5]

The Warriors are already in damage control mode. And Leonard's situation is very different. No comparison.

Same... Pressure to play that season to win a ring... Doctors said he couldn't get hurt worse, it's just pain Kawhi gave it a go and realized he wasn't fully healed and spurs shut him down, KD wasn't mentally strong enough to cut out the noise and look out for himself... As usual he let the words get to him

[duncan2k5]

KD did the old school warrior thing, but shouldn't have. It is one thing to play through pain and joint wear, and the other to play with a injury that actually urges recovery.

This does not change Kawhi's case unless it was the same, a player who went through more than the recovery time, was cleared, but kept looking for more opinions and thought he shouldn't play.

Same... KD went past the recovery time for a calf strain... That's what the team reported it as... Just like the Spurs reported Kawhi's injury as a thigh bruise, misdiagnosed Green and Gasol too...

[Joseph Kony]

Unless two legends you are super loyal to are retiring and u want to make them go out strong... Pop doesn't have the same loyalty to Kawhi that he has for the big 3...that was very obvious with his behavior... And he clearly regretted it after it went to hell
you really are a fucking faggot you know that?

[Realdeal1]

I just scroll over Duncan2k5's posts .. not worth reading

[NameLess Scrub]

Same... KD went past the recovery time for a calf strain... That's what the team reported it as... Just like the Spurs reported Kawhi's injury as a thigh bruise, misdiagnosed Green and Gasol too...




For a grade 1 calf strain probably, but his injury was worse and he got about 4 to 5 weeks. That's barely what he needed. Hard to see him getting cleared if it's not the finals down 1-3.